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Why does the Republican Party attract social outcasts?

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C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#1
I'm curious about this, because it's not the case where I live in Australia. 

It's undeniable that the American political right appeals heavily to young, socially estranged, angry white men. Even Steve Bannon talks about it here, where he used MMO's and forums to recruit people to the right (http://www.thewrap.com/how-world-of-warcraft-propelled-steve-bannon-to-the-white-house/amp/). It's pretty sad honestly. 

What is it about American conservativism that attracts these people?
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feudel 2 days ago#2
Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc
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C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#3
feudel posted...
Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#4
C0c0nuttz posted...
feudel posted...
Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


Part of the society they're seeking to overthrow is the one they see liberals promoting. A lot of the racism comes from being mad that blacks and Hispanics are taking white women they believe should be theirs.
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Alteres 2 days ago#5
What is this, I don't even...
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Vesperas 2 days ago#6
Yea, we reps get alot of the neckbeards with pink hair, thick black glasses, and d*** hole ear lobes.
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C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#7
Alteres posted...
What is this, I don't even...

A discussion. Care to join in?
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Alteres 2 days ago#8
Eh, not really.

Just never heard the nerds are mad because the darkies are takin ther wimins argument, kinda blew my mind a little.

Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
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C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#9
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.
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IMadepooh4U 2 days ago#10
Those antifa thugs don't seem to be Republican voters.
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#11
Alteres posted...
Eh, not really.

Just never heard the nerds are mad because the darkies are takin ther wimins argument, kinda blew my mind a little.

Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.


It's just another thing for them to blame their problems with women on. But it's an easy tunnel to find yourself in when you're already ostracized, lonely and angry.
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https://np.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/6uqlds/why_internet_libertarians_are_becoming_fascists/

Saw this posted in another topic, but there's a lot of good s*** in there that explains it fairly well.
C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#13
The Great Muta 22 posted...
https://np.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/6uqlds/why_internet_libertarians_are_becoming_fascists/

Saw this posted in another topic, but there's a lot of good s*** in there that explains it fairly well.

Interesting. Thanks for the read.
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mad_hax_man 2 days ago#14
C0c0nuttz posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.


Except they aren't the 'losers' of society. They often think they are, but they aren't. They aren't the trans women selling sex on the street or the black teenager raised hy a mum with two jobs and whose father was put away for smoking dope, or the Syrians who have fleed a war zone only to end up in country whose president often attacks people like them. They are white guys that people like Bannon have been whispering in their ears, warning them that the less fortunate are coming to take their stuff
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It really does fascinate me, simply because I've seen it as it's happened live. The rise of Ron Paul "libertarians"/Ayn Rand types that slowly shifted to more of a quasi mix of nationalistic and ancap, to the point where they basically hijacked the entire Republican party is something history will examine. Bannon plays a key part of it, but even he's just a cog in the machine.
C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#16
mad_hax_man posted...
C0c0nuttz posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.


Except they aren't the 'losers' of society. They often think they are, but they aren't. They aren't the trans women selling sex on the street or the black teenager raised hy a mum with two jobs and whose father was put away for smoking dope, or the Syrians who have fleed a war zone only to end up in country whose president often attacks people like them. They are white guys that people like Bannon have been whispering in their ears, warning them that the less fortunate are coming to take their stuff

That's a fair point. They're actually pretty well off in terms of caste, they just lack the social skills to capitalize on it. What a shame. There should be rehab programs for people like that. Get these "basement dwellers" some help instead of feeding their anger.
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odanzrexorc 2 days ago#17
C0c0nuttz posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
C0c0nuttz posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.


Except they aren't the 'losers' of society. They often think they are, but they aren't. They aren't the trans women selling sex on the street or the black teenager raised hy a mum with two jobs and whose father was put away for smoking dope, or the Syrians who have fleed a war zone only to end up in country whose president often attacks people like them. They are white guys that people like Bannon have been whispering in their ears, warning them that the less fortunate are coming to take their stuff

That's a fair point. They're actually pretty well off in terms of caste, they just lack the social skills to capitalize on it. What a shame. There should be rehab programs for people like that. Get these "basement dwellers" some help instead of feeding their anger.


I think you found the root of the problem. 

Many on the left refuse to recognize their problems as problems because they are straight cis white males when most of them are probably dealing with some sort of undiagnosed mental or emotional issues.

This drives them to the other side even though they have nothing to gain.
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mad_hax_man 2 days ago#18
C0c0nuttz posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
C0c0nuttz posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.


Except they aren't the 'losers' of society. They often think they are, but they aren't. They aren't the trans women selling sex on the street or the black teenager raised hy a mum with two jobs and whose father was put away for smoking dope, or the Syrians who have fleed a war zone only to end up in country whose president often attacks people like them. They are white guys that people like Bannon have been whispering in their ears, warning them that the less fortunate are coming to take their stuff

That's a fair point. They're actually pretty well off in terms of caste, they just lack the social skills to capitalize on it. What a shame. There should be rehab programs for people like that. Get these "basement dwellers" some help instead of feeding their anger.


I don't think they are as "socially awkward" as they make out to be. They like the idea of being an outcast, of being socially awkward. 

They then surround themselves online with people who reward them for their awkwardness. And they start to collate their awkwardness with their identity. And it spirals out from there. 

Basically, they get so wrapped up in their iwn pain that they develop a f*** you got mine attitude to those who are much more vulnerable than them. We get whites who think racism against whites is worse than that against blacks (all while justifying police shooting black men), MRAs that demand that feminist talk " about the men problems," and gamers that views the inclusion of women and minority characters or themes as "shameless pandering" but also view localisation team aging up the fan service characters to 18 as a "a horribly attack on the creative freedom of the artist".

And it's the GoP, especially when manned by Trump (and formerly Bannon) that embodies this f*** you got mine attitude. Its the party that's willing sabotage the fight against global warming for helping an Industry that will die no matter what we do. It's the party that insists on locking out refugees fleeing a war zone. It's the party that's okay making money destroying black communities with the for profit prisons
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TaiIs82 2 days ago#19
...What

It's the left that markets itself as against family values and tradition
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oarphishmoe 2 days ago#20
TaiIs82 posted...
...What

It's the left that markets itself as against family values and tradition


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mad_hax_man 2 days ago#21
TaiIs82 posted...
...What

It's the left that markets itself as against family values and tradition


Which is why the last left president was an admitted adulterer on his third wife (who tried to cheat on her while she was pregnant) who admits to using his position to perv on teenage girls
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Why is it sad to be different? Didn't the left used to pride themselves on that?
Gradieus 2 days ago#23
Classic trolling topic that the Left think is real.
mad_hax_man posted...
C0c0nuttz posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
C0c0nuttz posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Here's another point of view on the same issue. It's really sad that the "losers" of society can be so easily manipulated into becoming part of the American political right. I wish people like Bannon wouldn't take advantage of them like that.


Except they aren't the 'losers' of society. They often think they are, but they aren't. They aren't the trans women selling sex on the street or the black teenager raised hy a mum with two jobs and whose father was put away for smoking dope, or the Syrians who have fleed a war zone only to end up in country whose president often attacks people like them. They are white guys that people like Bannon have been whispering in their ears, warning them that the less fortunate are coming to take their stuff

That's a fair point. They're actually pretty well off in terms of caste, they just lack the social skills to capitalize on it. What a shame. There should be rehab programs for people like that. Get these "basement dwellers" some help instead of feeding their anger.


I don't think they are as "socially awkward" as they make out to be. They like the idea of being an outcast, of being socially awkward. 

They then surround themselves online with people who reward them for their awkwardness. And they start to collate their awkwardness with their identity. And it spirals out from there. 

Basically, they get so wrapped up in their iwn pain that they develop a f*** you got mine attitude to those who are much more vulnerable than them. We get whites who think racism against whites is worse than that against blacks (all while justifying police shooting black men), MRAs that demand that feminist talk " about the men problems," and gamers that views the inclusion of women and minority characters or themes as "shameless pandering" but also view localisation team aging up the fan service characters to 18 as a "a horribly attack on the creative freedom of the artist".

And it's the GoP, especially when manned by Trump (and formerly Bannon) that embodies this f*** you got mine attitude. Its the party that's willing sabotage the fight against global warming for helping an Industry that will die no matter what we do. It's the party that insists on locking out refugees fleeing a war zone. It's the party that's okay making money destroying black communities with the for profit prisons

They externalize frustration (largely economic, from the Great Recession, and sexual, from hating women and being generally hateful) onto liberals, minorities, etc. Ironically, the reason for their economic despair is due to rightwing economics (deregulation that allowed derivatives which collapsed the economy)
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Hoozah123 2 days ago#25
That what you get for letting Hillary into the Primary. I wanted Bernie Sander, and ya'll screw it up. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!
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Hyena 20 2 days ago#26
C0c0nuttz posted...
feudel posted...
Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


Foreveralones are pissed about the following things:

--My life doesn't amount to anything
--Those mean b****es won't have sex with me
--I have to pay taxes. I wouldn't have to pay nearly as much if it weren't for all the blacks, illegals, and stay-at-home single moms.
--I have to compete with women and racial minorities for a job
--Icky minorities are getting more white tail than me. I'm superior to any minority, so why aren't those b****es sexing me, instead?!
--Trump is my idol. he's a white billionaire, can say whatever he wants and get away with it, and he's a PUI (pickup artist)
this one probably applies as well:
--I can't get or keep a job because the PC gestapo force my employers to fire me in favor of some b**** or (n-word) (note: in many cases, the reality is that they got fired either due to social ineptitude that affected their ability to do their job, or due to misbehavior)

One variant of that last one (generally among those calling themselves "masculists") is "because men aren't allowed to act like men, anymore", which is usually code word for "I got fired for sexual harassment, anger management problems, aggressive, misogynic, or homophobic misconduct towards coworkers, being drunk on the job, or for punching a co-worker/customer for talking smack", because they honestly believe that is what an alpha male really acts like.
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Hyena 20 2 days ago#27
They externalize frustration (largely economic, from the Great Recession, and sexual, from hating women and being generally hateful) onto liberals, minorities, etc. Ironically, the reason for their economic despair is due to rightwing economics (deregulation that allowed derivatives which collapsed the economy)


In most cases it is either this or their economic despair is due to them being s***ty people. If you have anger management problems and scream at your boss when he orders you to do something extra, or get into constant heated arguments with your co-workers, then you're not going to be able to hold down a job, and eventually your employment history will look so bad that nobody except the mom&pop company whose employer probably moonlights as a drug dealer will hire you. Of course, it's always anyone's fault except for yours.
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Because they're a lot like GameFaqs but more proactive, obviously.
Hyena 20 2 days ago#29
Or, let me spell it out with a summary:

--Waah, those mean b****es won't have sex with me!
--Western women suck because they won't make me a sammich
--I hate paying taxes.
--I can't get/keep a job because of all the illegals, foreigners, immigrants, and women I have to compete with!
--Minorities are getting more white tail than me, no fair!
--I can't get/keep a job because of Affirmative Action!
--I can't get/keep a job because of PC!

Then there's their belief that they could get the b****es without the social skills if ONLY they had the cash like those 30-something douchebags at the bar.
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Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.
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Hoozah123 2 days ago#31
Hyena 20 posted...
Or, let me spell it out with a summary:

--Waah, those mean b****es won't have sex with me!
--Western women suck because they won't make me a sammich
--I hate paying taxes.
--I can't get/keep a job because of all the illegals, foreigners, immigrants, and women I have to compete with!
--Minorities are getting more white tail than me, no fair!
--I can't get/keep a job because of Affirmative Action!
--I can't get/keep a job because of PC!

Then there's their belief that they could get the b****es without the social skills if ONLY they had the cash like those 30-something douchebags at the bar.


Why are you such a racist?
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LawnNinja 2 days ago#32
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.

This. I can't believe the TC has made yet another post punching down at sad losers. Seriously, why the obsession? Did a fat, lonely virgin break your favorite toy when you were a kid or something?
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#33
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?
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LawnNinja 2 days ago#34
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.

It's also worth noting that a significant chunk of vocal male feminists online are exactly the same type of lonely, sex-starved men that you're summarily grouping as "alt-right". In fact, many feminist social media circles have had serious problems with their male "allies" stalking, perving on, threatening, and even physically harming the women in their cliques. 

Sexual frustration is not a political affiliation. 

And if lack of sex and difficulty interacting with women leads to broader social problems like identitarian politics, why is nobody proposing a "Get These Losers Laid" campaign to help them see the light? Generally, people who try to help sexually frustrated men learn how to socialize with women end up being labeled as misogynists and predators, not compassionate facilitators of healthy behavior.
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#35
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.
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LawnNinja 2 days ago#36
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.

That's YOUR claim, not mine. The burden of proof is on YOU.
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RCtheWSBC 2 days ago#37
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.

Have there been studies into this "instrinsic" link and its magnitude? 

I hesitate to put all my eggs in one basket. I think there are a multitude of interconnected factors at play: economic standing, mental and emotional health, white fragility, and socialization may coincide.
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#38
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.

That's YOUR claim, not mine. The burden of proof is on YOU.


The alt-right sprung out of red pill and GamerGate. It was literally born from misogyny and complaining about women.
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LawnNinja 2 days ago#39
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.

That's YOUR claim, not mine. The burden of proof is on YOU.


The alt-right sprung out of red pill and GamerGate. It was literally born from misogyny and complaining about women.

No, it didn't. Your "facts" come from a false narrative intentionally constructed to discredit the critics of the mainstream media. The alt-right has nothing to do with the red pill forum or the GamerGate hashtag. Perhaps some members of the alt-right also identified with those things, but white identity politics and ethno-nationalism is not intrinsically linked to being a dateless loser.

The alt-right is a response to the same politics of victimhood favored by proponents of intersectional feminism and critical race theory, as well as Christian fundamentalists. They're all about celebrating a "white identity" and building a white ethno-state, just like the black nationalists such as Gazi Kodzo on the far left, or how the Christian theocracy types on the far right push for Biblical government that privileges them. 

Maybe Salon and HuffPo and the other FlipBoard-approved "news" outlets have long been grouping gamers, MRAs and the alt-right into one nebulous "dangerous loser" group, but the only thing they actually have in common is distrust in the media who malign them.
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It happens on both sides.

The left : Dudes there to play the hero and try and get laid.

The right: Dudes there because they're the only ones who even pretend to care for their issues.


The Left attracts desperate white knights hoping showing the fair maidens how woke they are will get them laid and because they chant the talking points etc they're part of the community and have a friends group. A group using them for a political end who the moment they step out of line will s*** on them and turn on them. Pushing them so they have no-one again. It's cult like.


The Right does some similar things but the reason they go to the right is because they pretend to care for their problems or do actively s*** on them as much as far left groups. E.G. the calls for a male privilege tax, the stupid #YesAllMen (are rapists) claims the constant claims men expressing sexual desire at all is toxic masculinity (even so much as checked a hot girl out); The progressive stack where your right to speak is determined by your position on an oppression chart (white men are at the bottom).
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MegatokyoEd 2 days ago#41
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
LawnNinja posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.


Why should we sidestep it when lack of sex/trouble with women is basically the gateway drug into the alt-right?

Nonsense. The "gateway drug" into the alt-right is the politics of white victimhood. You don't need to be sexually frustrated to fall prey to identitarian propaganda.


So explain why it's so intrinsically linked to sexual frustration.

That's YOUR claim, not mine. The burden of proof is on YOU.


The alt-right sprung out of red pill and GamerGate. It was literally born from misogyny and complaining about women.

No, it didn't. Your "facts" come from a false narrative intentionally constructed to discredit the critics of the mainstream media. The alt-right has nothing to do with the red pill forum or the GamerGate hashtag. Perhaps some members of the alt-right also identified with those things, but white identity politics and ethno-nationalism is not intrinsically linked to being a dateless loser.

The alt-right is a response to the same politics of victimhood favored by proponents of intersectional feminism and critical race theory, as well as Christian fundamentalists. They're all about celebrating a "white identity" and building a white ethno-state, just like the black nationalists such as Gazi Kodzo on the far left, or how the Christian theocracy types on the far right push for Biblical government that privileges them. 

Maybe Salon and HuffPo and whatever other FlipBoard-approved "news" outlets have long been grouping gamers, MRAs and the alt-right into one nebulous "dangerous loser" group, but the only thing they actually have in common is distrust in the media who malign them.


I was following the rise of the red pill/GamerGate crowd for years and almost every commentator like Milo that associated with those two groups originally soon latched on to the alt-right label. I'll actually give you that the label itself didn't spring out from those two movements, because the term was coined by Spencer and others back around 2010. However, the rise of alt-right in the public conscious is almost completely and universally linked with the same GamerGate/red pill crowd latching on to the label themselves.
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As someone with a lot of MMO experience, 90+ percent of gamers these days are anti-social baddies that want instant gratification. They cry for things to get nerf and rage quit quick if the party fails.

They just don't make games and gamers like they used to.
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LawnNinja 2 days ago#43
MegatokyoEd posted...
I was following the rise of the red pill/GamerGate crowd for years and almost every commentator like Milo that associated with those two groups originally soon latched on to the alt-right label. I'll actually give you that the label itself didn't spring out from those two movements, because the term was coined by Spencer and others back around 2010. However, the rise of alt-right in the public conscious is almost completely and universally linked with the same GamerGate/red pill crowd latching on to the label themselves.

I followed it too, but not through the lens of the very people with a vested interest in discrediting them. The red pill forum is indeed a cesspool of misogyny, but MRAs in general are not. Didn't stop the mainstream media from using the red pill forum as an example of "MRAs" every chance they got. GamerGate had nothing to do with women until a certain group of "Game Journo Pros" decided to misdirect the story towards Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to obfuscate the fact that they got caught red-handed colluding with publishers and other games media to push certain products over others. None of that has anything to do with white nationalism. The only reason anyone thinks it does is because the very same media outlets deliberately spun that narrative.
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C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#45
mad_hax_man posted...
TaiIs82 posted...
...What

It's the left that markets itself as against family values and tradition


Which is why the last left president was an admitted adulterer on his third wife (who tried to cheat on her while she was pregnant) who admits to using his position to perv on teenage girls

Haha. Gotem
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TheDarkShepard posted...
Lots of social outcasts on the Democrats side too.

And I really dislike how we are demonizing anyone who is "forever alone" or socially awkward under the same broad brush as "you are just a s***ty, terrible person if you aren't popular/can't get sex". I thought we outgrew high school guys.

You're confusing cause and effect

Choosing to be a horrible person often makes you a social outcast

You are not a horrible person just because you are a social outcast
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Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.
C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#48
lightwarrior78 posted...
Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.

But by most objective metrics, they (you?) are. Isn't it healthier to confront that so they can improve?
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C0c0nuttz posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.

But by most objective metrics, they (you?) are. Isn't it healthier to confront that so they can improve?

But that would be responsibility!! We can't have that.
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C0c0nuttz posted...
feudel posted...
Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


Sure, now excuse them while they try to defund Obamacare and make as many changes as they possibly can.
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    C0c0nuttz 2 days ago#52
    ArabrockermanX posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


    Sure, now excuse them while they try to defund Obamacare and make as many changes as they possibly can.

    I mean that just points to the American right being fake conservatives, which is what I've been saying for a while.
    Relax, they're only words on the internet.
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    lightwarrior78 posted...
    Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.

    But by most objective metrics, they (you?) are. Isn't it healthier to confront that so they can improve?


    There's building people up, and there's tearing people down. Again, guess which of those insulting people is. The left currently confounds me. Smart people that can't comprehend how having ideological purity tests for acceptance and policies vested in the redistribution of wealth and privilege regardless of if you actually have much of either costs them support to the party saying "you're fine the way you are and they're being unreasonable."

    It's like being surprised saying "yes that dress makes you look fat" has you sleeping on the couch. I can see you defensively saying "but I was trying to help her lose weight" to that now.
    Heineken14 2 days ago#54
    lightwarrior78 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    lightwarrior78 posted...
    Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.

    But by most objective metrics, they (you?) are. Isn't it healthier to confront that so they can improve?


    There's building people up, and there's tearing people down. Again, guess which of those insulting people is. The left currently confounds me. Smart people that can't comprehend how having ideological purity tests for acceptance and policies vested in the redistribution of wealth and privilege regardless of if you actually have much of either costs them support to the party saying "you're fine the way you are and they're being unreasonable."

    It's like being surprised saying "yes that dress makes you look fat" has you sleeping on the couch. I can see you defensively saying "but I was trying to help her lose weight" to that now.


    The problem is, in your scenario, the wife is going "hey, you disgusting piece of s*** a******, does this make me look fat?" and then getting butthurt and crying about the husband saying sure.
    Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
    ZeroX91 1 day ago#55
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.
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    lightwarrior78 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    lightwarrior78 posted...
    Mostly a lack of attraction to anything the left offers. Hint: calling them (us) losers is not a good sales pitch for the party.

    But by most objective metrics, they (you?) are. Isn't it healthier to confront that so they can improve?


    There's building people up, and there's tearing people down. Again, guess which of those insulting people is. The left currently confounds me. Smart people that can't comprehend how having ideological purity tests for acceptance

    It's called not being a misogynistic or racist a**. It's far from a purity test

    and policies vested in the redistribution of wealth and privilege regardless of if you actually have much of either

    False. You've been listening to too much propaganda, and it shows
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    Unknown280 1 day ago#57
    Because a lot trumpanzees are angry and unhinged they can't get a piece of ass from white women that a lot of minorities and some white men can get so they take out their frustration by joining tte alt-right to get back at the white women who won't sleep with them and minorities because they can get what these neckbeards can't get is my guess.
    C0c0nuttz 1 day ago#58
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.
    Relax, they're only words on the internet.
    LawnNinja posted...

    No, it didn't. Your "facts" come from a false narrative intentionally constructed to discredit the critics of the mainstream media. The alt-right has nothing to do with the red pill forum or the GamerGate hashtag. Perhaps some members of the alt-right also identified with those things, but white identity politics and ethno-nationalism is not intrinsically linked to being a dateless loser.

    The alt-right is a response to the same politics of victimhood favored by proponents of intersectional feminism and critical race theory, as well as Christian fundamentalists. They're all about celebrating a "white identity" and building a white ethno-state, just like the black nationalists such as Gazi Kodzo on the far left, or how the Christian theocracy types on the far right push for Biblical government that privileges them. 

    Maybe Salon and HuffPo and the other FlipBoard-approved "news" outlets have long been grouping gamers, MRAs and the alt-right into one nebulous "dangerous loser" group, but the only thing they actually have in common is distrust in the media who malign them.



    And you where doing so well up until this post.

    -there are indeed strong over laps between FAs/ incels and the alt right. Keeo in mind im not just talking about people who can't get laid, but people who who make the fact that to define their identity. Their identity literally becomes about resentment and jealousy. 

    -GG did indeed provide fertile hunting grounds for the alt right. It got the backing of Andrew Anglin/ The Daily Stormer, Roosh V and Brietbart news. Spencer has gone on to label GG icons Sargon of akkad, Milo Yinnopolus and Chris Ray Gun as entry level drugs to the alt right. The alt right use the same tools as GG, and if you swap 'games' with ' western culture', you have pretty much the same talking points.

    - the alt right breed where white men are resentful, especially if they can blame some kind of progressive movement for it. That's the short of it and that's why there are strong overlaps between incels, GG, many MRA groups qnd the alt right
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    Dienekes 1 day ago#60
    Crazy s*** happens when 8 people own half of the planet's resources.

    A govt that only serves less than 10% of the population isn't going to last in that form for long.

    As it pertains to this topic, the avenues for self-actualization only exist for a tiny minority of the populace. Everyone else basically has the social status, wealth, and power (sense thst they matter and their societal roles are important) of burger flippers. When a system's legitimate pathways for social status are limited to lottery winners (people that already have a lot of wealth/power), like in our system, then they turn to alternate pathways and crazy s***, like gangs, criminal orgs, terrorist groups, etc.

    Class tensions also exacerbate racial tensions- any attempt to address racial issues while ignoring class is just cynical identity politics (Democratic Party does this extensively - and the Republican Party feeds the racial/white backlash). There's no such thing as a cosmopolitan colorblind capitalism. The people with the capital will always exploit racial divisions to get swaths of the populace to vote against their own economic interests.
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    ZeroX91 1 day ago#61
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.
    Put your grasses on...
    C0c0nuttz 1 day ago#62
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...
    Relax, they're only words on the internet.
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    ZeroX91 1 day ago#63
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...

    Don't think that's been true since the 90s, even in the bible belt most people you meet are agnostic.
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    Hyena 20 1 day ago#64
    DeadCellReborn posted...
    They blame their inadequacies on other races. Any time some sniveling neckbeard's crush gets railed by a black dude, they become a staunch conservative republican. Anyone not racist becomes a "cuck" in their eyes, and betrays the race. It's why they're called the party of projection.


    Oh, yeah, I forgot about that aspect of the white supremacists and the redpill MRAs.

    If you want a perfect example of this, check out some of the comments in the different youtube vids of this Italian laundry detergent commercial (in the commercial, it plays some goofy Italian accordion music, and a scrawny Italian guy wearing briefs 1 size too large tries to make the moves on his wife. She pretends to be interested and then shoves him into the washing machine, then turns it on. Later, he emerges from the washing machine as a muscular black dude that she's swooning over. Oh, forgot to mention that when the black dude emerges, the music changes from the wonky "Italian" accordion music to rap. 
    The racists were triggered like you wouldn't believe. I have NEVER seen more jealousy from the white supremacists.
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    Hyena 20 1 day ago#65
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...

    Don't think that's been true since the 90s, even in the bible belt most people you meet are agnostic.


    Agnostic is not the right term. I would say that the most are "non-practicing". E.g. they believe that God exists, but do not worship him and don't really care all that much. Or they are lukewarm Christians/Cafeteria Catholics, in that they believe in God but only go to church during the holidays, weddings, and funerals and don't really care about religion beyond that.
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    OffDogs 1 day ago#66
    MegatokyoEd posted...
    Alteres posted...
    Eh, not really.

    Just never heard the nerds are mad because the darkies are takin ther wimins argument, kinda blew my mind a little.

    Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.


    It's just another thing for them to blame their problems with women on. But it's an easy tunnel to find yourself in when you're already ostracized, lonely and angry.

    You know... I know it's crazy... But some of us really just find the free market more appealing, or don't believe hand outs do anything but enable.... Crazy to think I respect and love women but am right wing I know.
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    Masked-One 1 day ago#67
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.
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    C0c0nuttz 1 day ago#68
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    I hear you. But I mean, comparatively speaking they have all the advantage. So why can't they help themselves?
    Relax, they're only words on the internet.
    mrstubix 1 day ago#69
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    Why is it the government's job to fix loneliness? I understand poorness can be helped with social programs like medicaid and food stamps, but beyond stuff like a YMCA how do you facilitate social interaction.
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    So a poor white guy chooses the party that hurt him financially because he got called out on being sexist, more or less
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    Masked-One 1 day ago#71
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    I hear you. But I mean, comparatively speaking they have all the advantage. So why can't they help themselves?

    Life's just hard. And some people start life in terrible positions family/community/school-wise, or financially, or intellectually with regards to social skills or academic comprehension. And some of those people end up being individual white dudes, who wonder why it's said that they've got the edge in life despite all the obstacles they're personally running into.

    And it doesn't help that there are a few aspects of life that a white dude could focus on with tunnel vision to get the impression that minorities/women have it easier overall. "Minorities get to use whatever racial slurs they want, clearly they have it easier!" or "Women get into physical fights less than and get asked out on dates more than men, clearly they have it easier!" or "Minorities and women get affirmative action, clearly they have it easier!" People more easily notice what they don't have than what they do have.
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    Masked-One 1 day ago#72
    zeppelin4ever42 posted...
    So a poor white guy chooses the party that hurt him financially because he got called out on being sexist, more or less

    Basically. A lot of these guys are nonpolitical or not actually conservative and are just lashing out at society. Memes, trolling, triggering libs, "for the lulz."

    Some are literally picking the "wrong side" on purpose. They can't do anything right in life so they commit to doing everything wrong. The "right side" isn't living up to their standards and helping them, so now they're going to be the villain. They're revolting against the high societies of love and tolerance that they feel they don't get to be a part of. Look at the hatred various circles of them have against colleges, or against party lifestyles.

    An example of conservatives picking up people who feel hurt by liberals is the Gamergate thing discussed in the topic about how Bannon strengthened the alt-right. Both the people who spread the fake rumor that fired up the Gamergate movement AND the guy who named the Gamergate movement had separate despicable personal agendas, but many of the people who got roped into the movement genuinely considered themselves to be promoting ethical practices in gaming media and opposing corruption, conflicts of interest, and pay to play. The latter group didn't think it was fair that the mainstream media was saying all sorts of bad things about them when they had no ill intent whatsoever, and took it as slander meant to distract from their righteous cause. Breitbart came in to tell them "you're right!", be nice to them, and give them a home.

    Then Breitbart/etc. adds another layer onto it by claiming the liberals have even worse in store for them, implying that only conservatives can protect the little they do have, and simultaneously keeping these people hooked through both comfort and fear.

    "The left said mean things to me that I don't think were warranted so now I'm allying with the right" is sadly how many vulnerable people operate.

    A few of these guys do realize the GOP is an elitist, treacherous party that doesn't care about them and will literally make their lives worse without remorse despite all the lip service, and instead join various independent leftist groups that preach progressive revolution instead. But it's never the Democrats that win over these people.
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    OffDogs 1 day ago#73
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    I hear you. But I mean, comparatively speaking they have all the advantage. So why can't they help themselves?

    Lol holy s*** no foolin?
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    C0c0nuttz 1 day ago#74
    OffDogs posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    I hear you. But I mean, comparatively speaking they have all the advantage. So why can't they help themselves?

    Lol holy s*** no foolin?

    Hey I mean it's the truth. The stats don't lie.
    Relax, they're only words on the internet.
    Hoozah123 1 day ago#75
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...



    No idea, but I'm atheist. But if I was to pick a religion, I go with my family religion and go full Buddhist and rock a Buddhist swastika and see how many Jew I can offend.
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    Hoozah123 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...



    No idea, but I'm atheist. But if I was to pick a religion, I go with my family religion and go full Buddhist and rock a Buddhist swastika and see how many Jew I can offend.

    And that is why you're not a Buddhist
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    Hoozah123 1 day ago#77
    zeppelin4ever42 posted...
    Hoozah123 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...



    No idea, but I'm atheist. But if I was to pick a religion, I go with my family religion and go full Buddhist and rock a Buddhist swastika and see how many Jew I can offend.

    And that is why you're not a Buddhist


    Not according to my mom and dad.
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    Hoozah123 posted...
    zeppelin4ever42 posted...
    Hoozah123 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    ZeroX91 posted...
    The democrats have bought hook line and sinker the concept of original sin and puritanical standards when it comes to sexual attraction. The horseshoe is real and the worst aspects of both parties empower the other worsening the divide.

    Lol. Please elaborate. I'd like to see what you mean by this.

    The concept of privilege (not specifically white "oppression olympics" as a whole) and sex negative feminism becoming the dominant branch. Can't deny those are closer "good christian values" than anything from the center of either.

    Okay I see. Fair points. But aren't most Americans Christian anyway? That must certainly extend to liberals...



    No idea, but I'm atheist. But if I was to pick a religion, I go with my family religion and go full Buddhist and rock a Buddhist swastika and see how many Jew I can offend.

    And that is why you're not a Buddhist


    Not according to my mom and dad.

    I'm just going to leave this one right here...
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me
    MegatokyoEd posted...
    The alt-right sprung out of red pill and GamerGate. It was literally born from misogyny and complaining about women.

    GamerGate was about politicized Marxist gaming journalism.
    Shinobi120 1 day ago#80
    MegatokyoEd posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


    Part of the society they're seeking to overthrow is the one they see liberals promoting. A lot of the racism comes from being mad that blacks and Hispanics are taking white women they believe should be theirs.


    It's not "their women" at all. They're not properties.
    bIuerain 1 day ago#81
    LawnNinja, I love your posts ITT and encourage you to keep contributing, legit your posts are quality content, but

    LawnNinja posted...
    GamerGate had nothing to do with women until a certain group of "Game Journo Pros" decided to misdirect the story towards Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to obfuscate the fact that they got caught red-handed colluding with publishers and other games media to push certain products over others.


    Buulllllllllllls***. It literally all started because a guy made a blog post about how his ex Zoey Quinn cheated on him with Five Guys, which was the whole affair's original label. This upset the s*** out of a lot of 4channers, and that's how it all got started. I was in the threads before it was even called GamerGate, sometimes posting. And really, they only kind of pretended to care about ethics in gaming journalism. It was always about women, and by the time it became GamerGate, they could barely be assed to keep pretending.


    edit: to clarify, at the time this all went down, I didn't really ever read the news. Let alone sites like Polygon and Kotaku. "The media narrative" had pretty much nothing to do with my opinion of the nature of Quinnspiracy/Five Guys/GamerGate. My perspective comes from the fact that I was there.
    go team venture!
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    bIuerain posted...
    LawnNinja, I love your posts ITT and encourage you to keep contributing, legit your posts are quality content, but

    LawnNinja posted...
    GamerGate had nothing to do with women until a certain group of "Game Journo Pros" decided to misdirect the story towards Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to obfuscate the fact that they got caught red-handed colluding with publishers and other games media to push certain products over others.


    Buulllllllllllls***. It literally all started because a guy made a blog post about how his ex Zoey Quinn cheated on him with Five Guys, which was the whole affair's original label. This upset the s*** out of a lot of 4channers, and that's how it all got started. I was in the threads before it was even called GamerGate, sometimes posting. And really, they only kind of pretended to care about ethics in gaming journalism. It was always about women, and by the time it became GamerGate, they could barely be assed to keep pretending.

    Did you notice all the posts saying "DON'T DOX, DON'T HARASS, FOCUS ON THE ISSUES"? I said back then, it's bad when f***ing 4chan holds themselves to higher ethical standards than mainstram journalists. As for Zoe Quinn, she has a long history of being a s***ty person and there's nothing wrong with criticizing people for being a******s.
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    E0liI6v

    Here's where innocent victim Zoe Quinn wants to "resist the First Amendment".
    Hyena 20 1 day ago#84
    mrstubix posted...
    Masked-One posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.

    If you're a poor, lonely, straight white dude, and liberals are constantly talking about the privilege straight white dudes have, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. And the way some liberals respond to confusion about these concepts, calling people turbovirgin neckbeards and whatnot, and accusing them of bigotry and entitlement in cases where it may not exist, doesn't help relations.

    These guys start thinking social liberalism is a biased, hypocritical sham that plays favorites against them. That the liberals want all their help to solve other peoples' problems, but then mocks them and tells them "you're on your own" when they have a problem. Then the right-wing scoops them up.

    Why is it the government's job to fix loneliness? I understand poorness can be helped with social programs like medicaid and food stamps, but beyond stuff like a YMCA how do you facilitate social interaction.


    Psychological and psychiatric health coverage.
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    bIuerain 1 day ago#85
    TorchOfLiberty posted...
    bIuerain posted...
    LawnNinja, I love your posts ITT and encourage you to keep contributing, legit your posts are quality content, but

    LawnNinja posted...
    GamerGate had nothing to do with women until a certain group of "Game Journo Pros" decided to misdirect the story towards Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to obfuscate the fact that they got caught red-handed colluding with publishers and other games media to push certain products over others.


    Buulllllllllllls***. It literally all started because a guy made a blog post about how his ex Zoey Quinn cheated on him with Five Guys, which was the whole affair's original label. This upset the s*** out of a lot of 4channers, and that's how it all got started. I was in the threads before it was even called GamerGate, sometimes posting. And really, they only kind of pretended to care about ethics in gaming journalism. It was always about women, and by the time it became GamerGate, they could barely be assed to keep pretending.

    Did you notice all the posts saying "DON'T DOX, DON'T HARASS, FOCUS ON THE ISSUES"? I said back then, it's bad when f***ing 4chan holds themselves to higher ethical standards than mainstram journalists. As for Zoe Quinn, she has a long history of being a s***ty person and there's nothing wrong with criticizing people for being a******s.


    See my edit for that post. Yea, I remember those posts, IIRC they were usually the OP. It didn't work, the most vocal people were peeps who had a lot of vitriolic spite to share because they suddenly felt extremely vindicated. I mean, the people who made careers out of repeatedly calling them sexist manchildren for cheap pops** turned out to be utter pieces of s***. You bet they had a lot of s*** to fling. Five Guys was interesting because there definitely was a lot of well-meaning guys who really just wanted to hold Kotaku/Zoey accountable for being s***ty, corrupt journalists. But it was always utterly overshadowed by the guys who just wanted to yell at women on Twitter.

    And man, c'mon. Gaming journalists have never been and never will be mainstream journos.

    **remember the spat between Jason Schreider and George Kamitami over Dragon's Crown having big boobs in it? dude actually posted on GameFAQs, I knew him. Perfect example of the pieces of "journalism" used to get cheap feminist points by taking shots at gamers. I would say something like "Years of that pissed 4channers enough to get Five Guys off the rails", but I can't say with confidence that it was ever really on the rails.
    go team venture!
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    Yxnkee 1 day ago#86
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    I'm curious about this, because it's not the case where I live in Australia. 

    It's undeniable that the American political right appeals heavily to young, socially estranged, angry white men. Even Steve Bannon talks about it here, where he used MMO's and forums to recruit people to the right (http://www.thewrap.com/how-world-of-warcraft-propelled-steve-bannon-to-the-white-house/amp/). It's pretty sad honestly. 

    What is it about American conservativism that attracts these people?

    If you live in Australia you have no clue. Quiet now thx
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    Hoozah123 1 day ago#87
    bIuerain posted...
    LawnNinja, I love your posts ITT and encourage you to keep contributing, legit your posts are quality content, but

    LawnNinja posted...
    GamerGate had nothing to do with women until a certain group of "Game Journo Pros" decided to misdirect the story towards Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to obfuscate the fact that they got caught red-handed colluding with publishers and other games media to push certain products over others.


    Buulllllllllllls***. It literally all started because a guy made a blog post about how his ex Zoey Quinn cheated on him with Five Guys, which was the whole affair's original label. This upset the s*** out of a lot of 4channers, and that's how it all got started. I was in the threads before it was even called GamerGate, sometimes posting. And really, they only kind of pretended to care about ethics in gaming journalism. It was always about women, and by the time it became GamerGate, they could barely be assed to keep pretending.


    edit: to clarify, at the time this all went down, I didn't really ever read the news. Let alone sites like Polygon and Kotaku. "The media narrative" had pretty much nothing to do with my opinion of the nature of Quinnspiracy/Five Guys/GamerGate. My perspective comes from the fact that I was there.


    That is probably true. But Zoey Game was still s***, and the people siding with her giving it good review is s*** too. Kind of like Anita Sarkeesian is s*** for s***ting on my Waifu Simulator Game; Skyrim.
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    Yxnkee posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    I'm curious about this, because it's not the case where I live in Australia. 

    It's undeniable that the American political right appeals heavily to young, socially estranged, angry white men. Even Steve Bannon talks about it here, where he used MMO's and forums to recruit people to the right (http://www.thewrap.com/how-world-of-warcraft-propelled-steve-bannon-to-the-white-house/amp/). It's pretty sad honestly. 

    What is it about American conservativism that attracts these people?

    If you live in Australia you have no clue. Quiet now thx

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    Hyena 20 7 hours ago#89
    MegatokyoEd posted...
    C0c0nuttz posted...
    feudel posted...
    Disenfranchisement they don't fit in society and seek to overthrow it etc

    But isn't conservativism about resistance to change? I wouldn't think that would be an attractive platform to disenfranchised foreveralones.


    Part of the society they're seeking to overthrow is the one they see liberals promoting. A lot of the racism comes from being mad that blacks and Hispanics are taking white women they believe should be theirs.


    Yup. That, and the belief that they wouldn't have to pay nearly as much in taxes if minorities weren't getting welfare and immigrants weren't committing crimes.

    As for the love many of them have for Asian and E. European women, it is over the belief that the women are more subservient, demure, dependent upon the husband, "won't steal half his stuff of foot him with child support bills", and won't "let themselves go" as soon as they get married.
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    The right likes to blame their own faults and problems on others. Like refugees or minorities or whatever. So the average losers of society, which there are plenty of, obviously jump on board.
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    ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
    The right likes to blame their own faults and problems on others. Like refugees or minorities or whatever. So the average losers of society, which there are plenty of, obviously jump on board.

    Party of Personal Responsibility, Lmao
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    Hyena 20 5 hours ago#92
    Let me put this in very simple terms as to why the foreveralone types are attracted to the Alt-right:

    --The incels, as they call themselves (involuntary celibate) blame progressivism for multiculturalism, feminism, no-fault-divorce, affirmative action, and welfare programs.
    --They blame feminism for their inability to bed a woman
    --They blame feminism + taxes + rich guys + foreign labor for their inability to get a woman, because all the women are gold-diggers. Were it not for liberals, their taxes, and all the legal+illegal immigrants, then they would have enough money to attract the gold-diggers.
    --They blame multiculturalism for bringing in lots of dirty minorities who, thanks to multiculturalist propaganda, women have been brainwashed into preferring over white men.

    So there you have it. 

    Summary: The Foreveralones associate with the alt-right because they view progressivism as the root cause of all the things that they hate, such as feminism, taxes, low wages, and sexual/job competition with minorities.
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    All this and you have all missed the blindingly obvious: the Democrats are doing the casting out, and with only two parties there's really only one place for them to go.

    Look at this topic. Nothing but hate, contempt and revulsion for an entire demographic, and you wonder why they aren't crawling back to you like abused dogs. Idiots. You created the alt right; they're the ones that took all the s*** you've given them their entire lives and managed to not shoot themselves.
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    willythemailboy posted...
    All this and you have all missed the blindingly obvious: the Democrats are doing the casting out, and with only two parties there's really only one place for them to go.

    Look at this topic. Nothing but hate, contempt and revulsion for an entire demographic, and you wonder why they aren't crawling back to you like abused dogs. Idiots. You created the alt right; they're the ones that took all the s*** you've given them their entire lives and managed to not shoot themselves.

    Asking people to be decent to their fellow human beings and then them choosing to be a******* is not is casting them out

    We don't care what you look like, what color you are, sexual orientation, or pretty much anything else. Just don't be an a**. It's a pretty basic rule. 

    Going to hate on women, no thanks. Going to make comments about all people of a minority, no thanks. Going to insult LGBT people for their sexuality, no thanks. Embracing ethno nationalism, no thanks

    Besides that, you can do almost anything you want
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    Meoman 3 hours ago#95
    Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

    How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.
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    LawnNinja 3 hours ago#96
    Meoman posted...
    Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

    How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.

    Well, you've been doing that. Seems like the strategy of shaming and condescending to people who are already bitter and lonely has done nothing but drive them into the waiting arms of jingoistic right-wing plutocrats. Maybe try some compassion and empathy next time instead of punching down to make yourself feel superior.
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    RyanBraun8 3 hours ago#97
    It's the party for people who like to b**** but don't have a whole hell of a lot to b**** about. But they feel better projecting their own short comings.
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    crillgamer 3 hours ago#98
    Isn't Australia socially conservative TC? I hear there is a gay marriage vote going down which is being heavily contested by protestors.
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    ShroomKingJr 3 hours ago#99
    If you want to kill someone over a drawing of a man who married a 6 year old, you don't need to live in the West. GET OUT!

    It seems like Trump is the only one who understands this.
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    LawnNinja posted...
    Meoman posted...
    Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

    How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.

    Well, you've been doing that. Seems like the strategy of shaming and condescending to people who are already bitter and lonely has done nothing but drive them into the waiting arms of jingoistic right-wing plutocrats. Maybe try some compassion and empathy next time instead of punching down to make yourself feel superior.

    He'd prefer to GIVE them political capital. That level of rejection and spite helped elect Trump, after all. Apparently he wants to double down on that strategy and get someone even worse (somehow).
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      Yxnkee 2 hours ago#101
      zeppelin4ever42 posted...
      willythemailboy posted...
      All this and you have all missed the blindingly obvious: the Democrats are doing the casting out, and with only two parties there's really only one place for them to go.

      Look at this topic. Nothing but hate, contempt and revulsion for an entire demographic, and you wonder why they aren't crawling back to you like abused dogs. Idiots. You created the alt right; they're the ones that took all the s*** you've given them their entire lives and managed to not shoot themselves.

      Asking people to be decent to their fellow human beings and then them choosing to be a******* is not is casting them out

      We don't care what you look like, what color you are, sexual orientation, or pretty much anything else. Just don't be an a**. It's a pretty basic rule. 

      Going to hate on women, no thanks. Going to make comments about all people of a minority, no thanks. Going to insult LGBT people for their sexuality, no thanks. Embracing ethno nationalism, no thanks

      Besides that, you can do almost anything you want

      Except be Conservative
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      Meoman 2 hours ago#102
      LawnNinja posted...
      Meoman posted...
      Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

      How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.

      Well, you've been doing that. Seems like the strategy of shaming and condescending to people who are already bitter and lonely has done nothing but drive them into the waiting arms of jingoistic right-wing plutocrats. Maybe try some compassion and empathy next time instead of punching down to make yourself feel superior.


      Let me cry myself to sleep knowing these people are scum and deserve no say in our country, seeing as they elect someone as bad as Trump.
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      willythemailboy posted...
      LawnNinja posted...
      Meoman posted...
      Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

      How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.

      Well, you've been doing that. Seems like the strategy of shaming and condescending to people who are already bitter and lonely has done nothing but drive them into the waiting arms of jingoistic right-wing plutocrats. Maybe try some compassion and empathy next time instead of punching down to make yourself feel superior.

      He'd prefer to GIVE them political capital. That level of rejection and spite helped elect Trump, after all. Apparently he wants to double down on that strategy and get someone even worse (somehow).


      You know, I don't often post on gamefaqs and I try to stay away from political drama on the internet but I want to give my honest opinion on this. I won't lie, I'm as awkward and shy as you can get. I was bullied and even sexually abused when I was a child and that obviously didn't do any good for my mental health. I was friendless for all my teenage years and I still find it very difficult to socialize and, as you can imagine, have relatioships with women. And yet, I'm not a Trump supporter, white supremacist religious nutjob who hates women, but a progressive (or a "liberal" for you Americans). I never hated women or minorities, I'm just a socially awkward guy trying to improve himself. Which is why it rubs me the wrong way when people like Meoman judges me as a potential danger to society and a neckbeard freak who should have his rights taken away just because I'm bad with people, even though we're on the same team. Which is rather ironic, because the far right and hell, I would say even a majority of mainstream Republicans believe in "might makes right" and think the weak and losers deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
      Meoman 1 hour ago#104
      Daisoujou95 posted...
      You know, I don't often post on gamefaqs and I try to stay away from political drama on the internet but I want to give my honest opinion on this. I won't lie, I'm as awkward and shy as you can get. I was bullied and even sexually abused when I was a child and that obviously didn't do any good for my mental health. I was friendless for all my teenage years and I still find it very difficult to socialize and, as you can imagine, have relatioships with women. And yet, I'm not a Trump supporter, white supremacist religious nutjob who hates women, but a progressive (or a "liberal" for you Americans). I never hated women or minorities, I'm just a socially awkward guy trying to improve himself. Which is why it rubs me the wrong way when people like Meoman judges me as a potential danger to society and a neckbeard freak who should have his rights taken away just because I'm bad with people, even though we're on the same team. Which is rather ironic, because the far right and hell, I would say even a majority of mainstream Republicans believe in "might makes right" and think the weak and losers deserve no sympathy whatsoever.



      Then I'm clearly not talking about you.
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      Hyena 20 1 hour ago#105
      You have to understand the mentality of a lot of these woman-hating alt-right foreveralones. In many cases, it's not just the women they are pissed off at. A lot of these people are narcissists, and one of the symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is that IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT. Oh, that and a sense of entitlement and overestimation of one's abilities.

      Which was one of the points I was trying to make in one of my first bulletpoint posts. (if you want a perfect look into this phenomena, then just look at Trump-- and when he can't blame anyone else for his actions, then he goes into ridiculous mental gymnastics)

      I never hated women or minorities, I'm just a socially awkward guy trying to improve himself.


      That's one of the main differences between you and the foreveralones/incels: They do nothing to try to improve themselves, as they see nothing wrong with themselves save that they don't have enough money to win the b****es over or they have physical flaws or shortcomings that make them undateable (which is bulls*** barring extraordinary cases). Instead, they view society as having the problem and needing "improvement" This ties in with the narcissism mentioned above.
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      LawnNinja 8 minutes ago#106
      Meoman posted...
      LawnNinja posted...
      Meoman posted...
      Aww, who will think of the lonely neckbread? Allow me to shed a single tear that these idiots are so easily taken to the side of white nationalism.

      How about instead we call them f***ing losers and take away their political capital? Sounds better.

      Well, you've been doing that. Seems like the strategy of shaming and condescending to people who are already bitter and lonely has done nothing but drive them into the waiting arms of jingoistic right-wing plutocrats. Maybe try some compassion and empathy next time instead of punching down to make yourself feel superior.


      Let me cry myself to sleep knowing these people are scum and deserve no say in our country, seeing as they elect someone as bad as Trump.

      Oh yeah, I'm sure the "neckbeard bloc" was absolutely instrumental in electing Trump. Yep. It was dateless losers in their parents' basements who pushed Trump over the edge and into the presidency. Had nothing at all to do with the millions of aging white conservatives in middle America and the South who need only hear the words "America" and "Great" before they cream their Depends and fall over each other to get to the polls. Yep, nothing at all to do with them. It was totally those sad sacks who can't get laid and have no friends. Let's all gang up on them!

      What's that word I'm looking for... you know, the word that describes someone who picks on people who are weaker or smaller or less popular and generally an easy target... what's... that... word.. again... OH YEAH!

      Bully

      Does it make you feel like a big man to get on the internet and bully a bunch of sad, lonely losers? Isn't that exactly the same behavior that keyboard warriors like yourself condemnwhen it's directed at anyone else? And if voting for Trump was the worst thing they could have done, do you really think that doubling down on your condescension is going to convince them to vote against the GOP? 

      Oh well. Who the hell cares as long as you get your daily dopamine shot from s***ting on some pitiable depressives, though, right?
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