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SaikyoStyle posted...
The reasonably f***able blonde girl on Fox News said I'd be a billionaire by now too if it wasn't for granola-munching, bathhouse liberals trying to make healthcare more affordable. Meghan Kelly? Yeah, she's like an 8/10, too bad she's dumber than a brick.
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Emerald_Melios posted...
....as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" It's true. I think most people in neo capitalist countries have completely deluded themselves into thinking that they will one day be as wealthy as those that they look up to. But this isn't really the fault of the ordinary person at all, this is the result of constant pro capitalist propaganda from the media who are carrying out this task for the establishment. Money litteraly talks, but it shouldn't! |
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masher11 posted...
well the poor in America were better off than the middle class in the ussr. If that's what you think then you are in serious need of an education on the Soviet Union. Again, this is what I am talking about when I mention western propaganda. You have been brought up to hate everything that is socialist or communist, it is the same here in Britain but I chose to actually research all systems myself. You'll learn a lot more if you do the same. |
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Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches.
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the final bahamut posted...
Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches.
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PhlogPyro posted...
the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. What is "social mobility"? People eat it up because it's true.
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OneTimeBen posted...
PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. Social mobility means the ability to move up in society. The higher the social mobility, the more possible it will be to go from rags to riches
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the final bahamut posted...
OneTimeBen posted...PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. So everyone has social mobility at birth. Depends on parents I suppose.
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SaikyoStyle posted...The reasonably f***able blonde girl on Fox News said I'd be a billionaire by now too if it wasn't for granola-munching, bathhouse liberals trying to make healthcare more affordable. She's one of the smartest people to report for Fox, especially amongst the females. And though she did participate in Fox spreading propaganda, she at least occasionally objected to some of the blatant lies Meghan Kelly moving on was a major loss for Fox, for Fox's credibility and their number of people able to debate, not just yell talking points over a guest
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the final bahamut posted...
OneTimeBen posted...PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. And America has some of the lowest mobility of any 1st world nation
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zeppelin4ever42 posted...
the final bahamut posted...OneTimeBen posted...PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. Because of parents or lack there of. In certain populations.
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the final bahamut posted...OneTimeBen posted...PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. I think you misunderstand the concept. The fact that your future prospects depends a f***ton on tour parents socioeconomic standing is indicative of the US's poor social mobility.
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ITT "Capitalism failed because not everyone is successful and all demographics are exactly the same so that shouldn't happen" Capitalism is inherently predatory. If you believe in freedom and justice for all then you need to temper your capitalism with socialism and a strong government. The idea that capitalism and socialism is onr of the terrible remnants of the cold war.
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It's a great quote, but I don't think Steinbeck ever worded it like that. His full quote, from this book (http://tinyurl.com/ybfy56x9) was:
“Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: ‘After the revolution even we will have more, won’t we, dear?’ Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property. I guess the trouble was that we didn’t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew—at least they claimed to be Communists—couldn’t have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves.” |
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OneTimeBen posted...
Lol, did this guy just try to blame social mobility on black people? Go back to Stormfront. We don't need anymore degenerates here.
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OneTimeBen posted...
zeppelin4ever42 posted...the final bahamut posted...OneTimeBen posted...PhlogPyro posted...the final bahamut posted...Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. Which populations?
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Twinmold posted...
OneTimeBen posted... He probably meant it that way, but fatherlessness and single-parent households in general are indeed a major factor in intergenerational poverty. That's true regardless of race.
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Yeah, it's how the corporocracy can keep them down so well. It's absolutely bulls***, of course, America has miserable social mobility, but people eat it right up and fight vehemently against their own interest out of the dream of riches. The most successful propaganda campaign in history. Social mobility in the United States is no better than anywhere else, yet people are convinced that if the work hard enough, either they or their children will become millionaires. That's why they vote against taxes on the rich, because why would you vote to raise taxes on yourselves or your children?
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....as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" I think that the poor realize they are shafted. They just do not see an out. The people that run for office are mostly the same. And money controls the system. That is the vibe I have gotten for decades from youth through today for some very poor working class people. Take for example health care. Many believe that universal healthcare would be impossible and cost jobs. Many in top positions of business know that not to be the case. It would most certainly allow some nice benefits seen in other countries. And it would help businesses with this stuff. Costs could be controlled better and it takes that burden off the businesses. For a long time premiums went up every year. It slowed down recently, the last few years, and that helps. And some places I know have seen their premiums stop growing for the first time in a while. Where my wife works they have not had premium increases for the last 4 year or so. For the first 8 she worked there they went up every year. The poor are in to believing that the rich need more money to create more jobs too. And that never happens. They do not realize that when you have the money it does not effect you much. Look at Reagan and Clinton. Reagan cut taxes and it did not work. He ended up taxing and spending. The debt grew by leaps and bounds during his term and set the stage for later. Clinton taxed, biggest piece time, and it was on the rich. Jobs were still created but the debt quickly slowed to almost a complete stop and would have been a surplus. Most never hear this and do not understand it. I tell them that as a business owner I could see a 5% increase and would still have the same employees. And would hire if I needed more people. Same with other businesses. My business is not of that size and they make more than enough. They are not dropping $10-$100 millions in profits because they pay more taxes. They will adjust. And cutting needed employees is not the solution. And that is definitely the case for billion $ companies. Many poor just do not know and believe what they are told. A lot of it is lies and fallacies that are perpetuated by those in power. |
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It's true. I remember in 2012, when Romney was campaigning, he was at some event at the Papa John's founder's place and said some doofy s*** like "A Democrat would look at this place and say "No one should live like this", and a Republican will say "EVERYONE should live like this", as if a cop or teacher has a path to a multi million dollar mansion.
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Emerald_Melios posted...
....as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" Naw it's because bread lines and rationing hold no appeal. We have seen the results of socialism and it isn't anywhere near utopian....socialism in itself has some good but naive ideas and is ripe for explotiation.
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Emerald_Melios posted.......as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" Yeah, Germany has most of the people starving to death, right? Not a thriving economy at all /s
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zeppelin4ever42 posted...
ZeroX91 posted...Emerald_Melios posted.......as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" Social programs do not equal socialism. Workers are still being exploited by corporations they do not own. /Nitro
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It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government.
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PhlogPyro posted...
It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. Didn't the Articles of Confederation attempt and fail just that?
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PhlogPyro posted...
It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. Really that's the end goal of communism
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theAteam posted...
PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. What? No it's f***ing not. In a communist system, the means of production is owned entirely by the government, not by private entities or workers. The government is entirely centralized and has dictatorial power. That's the f***ing opposite of libertarian social democracy.
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zeppelin4ever42 posted...
PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. Yes they were. If you actually listen to the right win rhetoric they want to go back too the AoC. Because in their revisionist history they were a success.
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PhlogPyro posted...
Yeah, she's like an 8/10, too bad she's dumber than a brick. she's not dumb. she has law degree. she's just manipulative and champions fads for money.
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PhlogPyro posted...
theAteam posted...PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism communism is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state.
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theAteam posted...
PhlogPyro posted...theAteam posted...PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. you can define its ideal all you want, but it doesnt make it true. you cant run an industrial economy that way. so it will inevitably end up going back to a state. thats why communist are actually statists.
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PhlogPyro posted...
It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. this is just nonsense. capitalism doesnt exploit the workers, its entirely voluntary.
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Bond_543 posted...
PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. Working a job isn't voluntary, you need it to survive. What field you go into is voluntary, sure, but having a job isn't. Corporations don't give a damn about their workers, they try to cut costs of production by lowering wages as much as possible. That is exploitation. Without things like minimum wage laws and social safety nets, capitalism is entirely exploitative.
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PhlogPyro posted...
Bond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. exploitation is a useless buzzword, that has no meaning and is only used to invoke feels in people. and yes it is voluntary. please explain who coerces anyone to get a job.
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Bond_543 posted...
PhlogPyro posted...Bond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
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PhlogPyro posted...
Bond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...Bond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government. Not if you're Bond and can live in your mom's basement forever.
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The_Undying_84 posted...PhlogPyro posted...
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It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government.
this is just nonsense. capitalism doesnt exploit the workers, its entirely voluntary.
Working a job isn't voluntary, you need it to survive. What field you go into is voluntary, sure, but having a job isn't. Corporations don't give a damn about their workers, they try to cut costs of production by lowering wages as much as possible. That is exploitation. Without things like minimum wage laws and social safety nets, capitalism is entirely exploitative.
exploitation is a useless buzzword, that has no meaning and is only used to invoke feels in people.
and yes it is voluntary. please explain who coerces anyone to get a job.
If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
Not if you're Bond and can live in your mom's basement forever.Lock her up!PhlogPyro posted...Bond_543 posted...
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PhlogPyro posted...
It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government.
this is just nonsense. capitalism doesnt exploit the workers, its entirely voluntary.
Working a job isn't voluntary, you need it to survive. What field you go into is voluntary, sure, but having a job isn't. Corporations don't give a damn about their workers, they try to cut costs of production by lowering wages as much as possible. That is exploitation. Without things like minimum wage laws and social safety nets, capitalism is entirely exploitative.
exploitation is a useless buzzword, that has no meaning and is only used to invoke feels in people.
and yes it is voluntary. please explain who coerces anyone to get a job.
If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
if you were the last person on earth you would still need to work to build a shelter. who exactly is exploiting you in that situation? no one? b/c needing a shelter is a fact of reality. same with food.
why exactly is it exploitation when money i used. but in a socialist commune its not if you use barter? your ideology is completely irrational and contradictory.Social Democracy: Bribing idiots with "free stuff" in exchange for votes.
Truth of the progressive era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62rI8OYFzGgBond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...
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It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government.
this is just nonsense. capitalism doesnt exploit the workers, its entirely voluntary.
Working a job isn't voluntary, you need it to survive. What field you go into is voluntary, sure, but having a job isn't. Corporations don't give a damn about their workers, they try to cut costs of production by lowering wages as much as possible. That is exploitation. Without things like minimum wage laws and social safety nets, capitalism is entirely exploitative.
exploitation is a useless buzzword, that has no meaning and is only used to invoke feels in people.
and yes it is voluntary. please explain who coerces anyone to get a job.
If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
if you were the last person on earth you would still need to work to build a shelter. who exactly is exploiting you in that situation? no one? b/c needing a shelter is a fact of reality. same with food.
why exactly is it exploitation when money i used. but in a socialist commune its not if you use barter? your ideology is completely irrational and contradictory.
Unlike yours? How many have you recruited to your ideology, 5 people?
Ancap is ridiculous and people know it, hence why no one takes your joke ideology seriously.Lock her up!Bond_543 posted...if you were the last person on earth you would still need to work to build a shelter.
As if that scenario has ever f***ing happened. We live in a civilized world.
Bond_543 posted...why exactly is it exploitation when money i used.
I never once said it was. However, lowering wages as much as you can possibly get away with in order to cut costs is exploitation. Without social democracy, workers are treated like dirt.MH IGN: Pyro || HR 900+ || Insect Glaive
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Hunters' Hub Discord server: https://discord.gg/ffuebqQPhlogPyro posted...As if that scenario has ever f***ing happened. We live in a civilized world.
irrelevant. you claimed working for shelter is exploitation. when you try to apply that claim consistently, it doesn't pan out. b/c the claim is not true and irrational.
PhlogPyro posted...I never once said it was. However, lowering wages as much as you can possibly get away with in order to cut costs is exploitation. Without social democracy, workers are treated like dirt.
i think you need to start defining exploitation before you go around using it in a debate. its a useless buzzword, generally used to just convey a feeling of things people dont like or understand. its no better than useless religious words priests use in their preachings. they are just words used to stir up emotion, yet when you ask them to define it and consistently apply it. they cant. just like you can't.Social Democracy: Bribing idiots with "free stuff" in exchange for votes.
Truth of the progressive era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62rI8OYFzGghoax123 posted...Bond_543 posted...
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It's simple, capitalism on its own doesn't work and socialism on its own doesn't work. You need a social democratic hybrid system. You need government regulation to prevent exploitation of workers but at the same time, you need to keep the government regulated to prevent them from having more power than they need, in order to maximize civil liberty. I believe the best way to do this is to have a completely decentralized government.
this is just nonsense. capitalism doesnt exploit the workers, its entirely voluntary.
Working a job isn't voluntary, you need it to survive. What field you go into is voluntary, sure, but having a job isn't. Corporations don't give a damn about their workers, they try to cut costs of production by lowering wages as much as possible. That is exploitation. Without things like minimum wage laws and social safety nets, capitalism is entirely exploitative.
exploitation is a useless buzzword, that has no meaning and is only used to invoke feels in people.
and yes it is voluntary. please explain who coerces anyone to get a job.
If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
if you were the last person on earth you would still need to work to build a shelter. who exactly is exploiting you in that situation? no one? b/c needing a shelter is a fact of reality. same with food.
why exactly is it exploitation when money i used. but in a socialist commune its not if you use barter? your ideology is completely irrational and contradictory.
Unlike yours? How many have you recruited to your ideology, 5 people?
Ancap is ridiculous and people know it, hence why no one takes your joke ideology seriously.
this isnt an argument. you're just mindlessly attacking something.Social Democracy: Bribing idiots with "free stuff" in exchange for votes.
Truth of the progressive era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62rI8OYFzGgBond_543 posted...irrelevant. you claimed working for shelter is exploitation.
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irrelevant. you claimed working for shelter is exploitation.
When the f*** did I ever say this?
PhlogPyro posted...If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
post #48 the context was we were talking about exploitation.Social Democracy: Bribing idiots with "free stuff" in exchange for votes.
Truth of the progressive era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62rI8OYFzGgBond_543 posted...PhlogPyro posted...
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irrelevant. you claimed working for shelter is exploitation.
When the f*** did I ever say this?
PhlogPyro posted...If you don't want to be homeless, yes, you f***ing need a job.
post #48 the context was we were talking about exploitation.
It's not exploitation at the end of the world because at the end of the day, that shelter is yours. The equivalent would be making 10 shelters and only getting to use 1 of them, and only after the 10th shelter was finished
TL,DR: Bond used a false equivalence. Big surprise...not
Also, Bond doesn't believe in ancap, he supports plutocracy. Big difference. It's just that being obsessed with a plutocracy is not as noble as being ancap, in his mind. The cognitive dissonance of realizing that would force him to grow as a person, and he does not want thatYea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with meNativitylnBIood posted..."I live off the government because I can't hold down a job because I'm a terrible worker. Ugh I'm so exploited!" - ~10% of the adult population
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Hunters' Hub Discord server: https://discord.gg/ffuebqQPhlogPyro posted...NativitylnBIood posted...
"I live off the government because I can't hold down a job because I'm a terrible worker. Ugh I'm so exploited!" - ~10% of the adult population
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I know hundreds of these people (and fired a couple dozen). The number is an estimate, obviously, but they exist in droves.''You gotta be one of the good guys, son: 'cause there's way too many of the bad." - Preacher
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