Where do we draw the line at everything being offensive?
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I wasn't aware George Washington was part of the Confederacy
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Shut up you pathetic trumpanzee. Can you for once not bend over for every damn thing the orange cheeto says and grow a damn spine?
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#4
He was a slave owner. Therefore, he's gotta go. Also, he's white..so...
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As soon as we get a good picture of Ahmed Muhammad to put on instead
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Replace him with George Washington Carver
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Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone. There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#8
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you... don't have a life
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The majority of the founding fathers are racist. May as well blow up Mount Rushmore to appease the SJW's
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Darkrobotisback posted...
The majority of the founding fathers are racist.
May as well blow up Mount Rushmore to appease the SJW's
By that logic we should get rid of Trump cuz he's racist too.
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Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone.
There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
Agreed. This is a large difference. @Caution999 - you could have started a discussion on this topic in a way that wasn't combative or condescending. Didn't you make a topic yesterday talking about how we should stop the hate? You're fueling the fire.
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As much as I don't like tc and think this is an incredibly pathetic topic More and more radical liberals (edit: still not a lot but enough to notice) are trying to discredit everything people like Washington and Jefferson did, trying to ruin their reputations as presidents and founding fathers due to time-specific character flaws. I feel like they've never read any primary texts of the time tbh
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Caution999 posted...
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you...
You're acting like removing offensive imagery from public grounds is some new thing
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Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
Therefore, he's gotta go.
Also, he's white..so...
You don't see any difference between somebody who fought for the independence of a country (who owned slaves) and somebody that fought for the (treasonous) war to secede from said country in order to retain the establishment of slavery?
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Drowning__Fish_ posted...
As much as I don't like tc and think this is an incredibly pathetic topic
More and more radical liberals are trying to discredit everything people like Washington and Jefferson did, trying to ruin their reputations as presidents and founding fathers due to time-specific character flaws.
I feel like they've never read any primary texts of the time tbh
What are you talking about?!?!? What is being discredited?!?!?
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Caution, are you off your meds again? :u This is an awful topic.
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#17
Asherlee10 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone.
There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
Agreed. This is a large difference.
@Caution999 - you could have started a discussion on this topic in a way that wasn't combative or condescending. Didn't you make a topic yesterday talking about how we should stop the hate? You're fueling the fire.
I tried to be nice, and it didn't work. That's the fact of the matter. Everyone still called me a "neo Nazi supporter", and so now, you people want a civil war. That's what you want.
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Caution999 posted...
I tried to be nice, and it didn't work. That's the fact of the matter. Everyone still called me a "neo Nazi supporter", and so now, you people want a civil war.
that went from 0-100 really fast
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Caution999 posted...
I tried to be nice, and it didn't work. That's the fact of the matter. Everyone still called me a "neo Nazi supporter", and so now, you people want a civil war.
That's what you want.
We'd mostly just prefer that you stop supporting Neo-Nazis
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replace him with George Michael
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supporting neo-nazis is my least favorite thing to do. why isn't it yours caution? :(
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#22
I haven't supported them. But anyone who doesn't agree with the hive mind is automatically a bigot around here.
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Caution999 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone.
There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
Agreed. This is a large difference.
@Caution999 - you could have started a discussion on this topic in a way that wasn't combative or condescending. Didn't you make a topic yesterday talking about how we should stop the hate? You're fueling the fire.
I tried to be nice, and it didn't work. That's the fact of the matter. Everyone still called me a "neo Nazi supporter", and so now, you people want a civil war.
That's what you want.
You barely tried. You made 1 topic about it. You have to lead by example. Not make one small attempt, throw your hands in the air, and then fuel the hate. People calling you a NN supporter were doing so just because they don't like you. They didn't see you post anything of the sort. You know that. Quit fanning the flames.
"Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...
Drowning__Fish_ posted...
As much as I don't like tc and think this is an incredibly pathetic topic
More and more radical liberals are trying to discredit everything people like Washington and Jefferson did, trying to ruin their reputations as presidents and founding fathers due to time-specific character flaws.
I feel like they've never read any primary texts of the time tbh
What are you talking about?!?!?
What is being discredited?!?!?
I have been seeing blog posts and fb links of people, aside from calling them "racist" and "slave owners" (which is clearly true), calling them awful people and trying to spread the word of how mysogenistic and oppressive they were. Trying to blame America's clear systematic racism on them. Usually it's from Native Americans, but as of recently a few black folks I know have been posting stuff on my fb feed. And I try to not have radical liberal or conservative friends, so it's not just my friend group, surely. But maybe i'm wrong.
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Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone.
There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
This is actually a complete myth and utter bulls***. At it's absolute HEIGHT in America, only 5% owned slaves. The most wealthy AND out of them the most wealthy who had specific need for slaves. On top of that, there was slavery oppoisition at the time. It was not as "socially accepted" as pretend it was now to defend historic figures. Bleeding Hearts hated it for morality, tradesmen and industrialists hated them because they held back the economy and mechanisation. And lots of average joes hated it because Governments would conscript them into hunting down escaped slaves. That's why you will hear so many stories of "Oh my ancestor caught an escaped slave but then let him go." half the people hunting escape slaves did not want to bother doing it. The slave owners back then are what we would refer to as the 1% today. The people who play golf and avoid tax while their countrymen starve. Don't lie about historical figures just because you like them. George Washington himself knew owning slaves was a dick move, he just did it anyway because f*** you got mine.
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Congrats, TC, you're no longer the worst poster ITT
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pegusus123456 posted...
Congrats, TC, you're no longer the worst poster ITT
Unfair saves the day again
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Caution999 posted...
I haven't supported them.
But anyone who doesn't agree with the hive mind is automatically a bigot around here.
weren't you defending the white supremacists? Saying it isn't their fault they got radicalized or something and that they used to be good people? :u I don't know how you expect people to interpret that. We don't defend ISIS fighters because "they were probably good people before they got radicalized." I don't know what's going on with you caution, but you seem to be losing it. Get a grip girl.
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Caution999 posted...
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you...
don't have a life
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#30
I also defended Antifa saying they were formerly good people that let their emotions take over. That's really what all this comes down to. Some people are racists, yes, some people believe deep down in their hearts they are doing the right thing. And guess what? They're not.
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Caution999 posted...
I also defended Antifa saying they were formerly good people that let their emotions take over.
That's really what all this comes down to. Some people are racists, yes, some people believe deep down in their hearts they are doing the right thing.
And guess what? They're not.
That guy who murdered a girl sure wasn't
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#32
That guy is a cold blooded murderer, and arguably, a terrorist.
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Caution999 posted...
I also defended Antifa saying they were formerly good people that let their emotions take over.That's really what all this comes down to. Some people are racists, yes, some people believe deep down in their hearts they are doing the right thing.And guess what? They're not.
Well, you should have said that to begin with. :u Cuz what you posted looked awfully like sympathy for Nazis.
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Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you...
You're acting like removing offensive imagery from public grounds is some new thing
It's what is deemed as 'offensive' that has changed.
You are now breathing manually.
Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over.
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#35
I said people on both sides. At least I'm fairly certain I did. Because I was defending what Trump said, and that's what he said as well.
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Caution999 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
So was everyone.
There was a difference between owning slaves because it was at the time a socially acceptable thing to do, and fighting for the existence of a racist slave state.
Agreed. This is a large difference.
@Caution999 - you could have started a discussion on this topic in a way that wasn't combative or condescending. Didn't you make a topic yesterday talking about how we should stop the hate? You're fueling the fire.
I tried to be nice, and it didn't work. That's the fact of the matter. Everyone still called me a "neo Nazi supporter", and so now, you people want a civil war.
That's what you want.
Take a break from CE. Seriously
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you...
You're acting like removing offensive imagery from public grounds is some new thing
It's what is deemed as 'offensive' that has changed.
racism has always been offensive fyi
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Caution999 posted...
That guy is a cold blooded murderer, and arguably, a terrorist.
it is nice to hear you say that. how do you feel about the fact that trump refuses to call him a terrorist?
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lilORANG posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
If a statue is effecting your life, perhaps you...
You're acting like removing offensive imagery from public grounds is some new thing
It's what is deemed as 'offensive' that has changed.
racism has always been offensive fyi
Thanks, Sherlock.
You are now breathing manually.
Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over.
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Caution :v you need to realize that trying to converse politics on CE is a pointless endeavor. Most everyone here is terrible, and you're not going to get anywhere trying to change their minds, just like no one is gonna change your mind about anything. Talking politics with people who disagree with you is always just gonna be a dick stroking constant anyway, whoever wins is the one who doesn't get tired out first.
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#42
Darkman124 posted...
Caution999 posted...
That guy is a cold blooded murderer, and arguably, a terrorist.
it is nice to hear you say that.
how do you feel about the fact that trump refuses to call him a terrorist?
I think he could've done a better job with his press conference yesterday, but at the same time, I don't believe anything he said makes him a Neo Nazi supporter. It was his way of trying to cool both sides by saying there some good people on both. Obviously it wasn't the 'right' way, but his intentions were not evil. People have made him out to be less than human, and I really do think he loves this country. Stop overly dissecting every thing he says in the heat of the moment. If you guys believe he is "not that bright" then why do you overly dissect everything he says? Wouldn't it make more sense to just take it at face value? Makes ya think ;)
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Caution999 posted...
I think he could've done a better job with his press conference yesterday, but at the same time, I don't believe anything he said makes him a Neo Nazi supporter. It was his way of trying to cool both sides by saying there some good people on both.
The POTUS shouldn't be trying to placate literal white supremacists in any way, shape, or form. Come on Caution...
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Caution999 posted...
I think he could've done a better job with his press conference yesterday, but at the same time, I don't believe anything he said makes him a Neo Nazi supporter. It was his way of trying to cool both sides by saying there some good people on both.
Obviously it wasn't the 'right' way, but his intentions were not evil. People have made him out to be less than human, and I really do think he loves this country.
Stop overly dissecting every thing he says in the heat of the moment. If you guys believe he is "not that bright" then why do you overly dissect everything he says? Wouldn't it make more sense to just take it at face value?
Makes ya think ;)
so your answer is: 'fine' follow up question: how do you feel about obama's refusal to call out radical islamic terrorism
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#45
While I was upset with Obama refusing to say those words, I never thought he was an evil man. I voted for him twice. After a while, what Mitt Romney said about Obama seemed to ring true for me. He was/is a really good person, and loves the country, but during his second term, he was not fit to be the President. I never questioned his love for the country, nor where he was born, or any of that other crap. I think Obama's first term was amazing, and his second term was utter s***.
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Replace him with Melissa McCarthy Fat stacks boooooiiiii
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The problem with the US is that it has failed to live up to its stated ideals The problem with the Confederacy is that they lived up to their stated ideals.
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Caution999 posted...
While I was upset with Obama refusing to say those words, I never thought he was an evil man. I voted for him twice.
After a while, what Mitt Romney said about Obama seemed to ring true for me. He was/is a really good person, and loves the country, but during his second term, he was not fit to be the President. I never questioned his love for the country, nor where he was born, or any of that other crap.
I think Obama's first term was amazing, and his second term was utter s***.
i mean, theres the fact that you're wrong. did you consider that?
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Ruvan22 posted...
Caution999 posted...
He was a slave owner.
Therefore, he's gotta go.
Also, he's white..so...
You don't see any difference between somebody who fought for the independence of a country (who owned slaves) and somebody that fought for the (treasonous) war to secede from said country in order to retain the establishment of slavery?
Except George Washington did exactly that but the only difference is that his side won.
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(Topic Creator)1 day ago#50
Darkman124 posted...
Caution999 posted...
That guy is a cold blooded murderer, and arguably, a terrorist.
it is nice to hear you say that.
how do you feel about the fact that trump refuses to call him a terrorist?
@Darkman124I'd also like to point out that Trump himself, did allude to calling him a terrorist yesterday during the press conference. He said something along the lines of "some people believe he is a terrorist" and he didn't say otherwise. From what I gathered, it sounded like Trump respected that opinion. Trump called him a murderer, and that was so far. We will likely learn of this man's intentions as the days go forward, and at that point, he will likely be labeled as a terrorist, and rightfully so. Trump's whole point yesterday is he wanted to wait for the facts to come out. It's a responsible view point imo.
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