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Pewdiepie Says He's Going To Stop Making Nazi Jokes After Charlottesville

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Darmik 17 hours ago#1
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/08/pewdiepie-says-hes-going-to-stop-making-nazi-jokes-after-charlottesville/

Earlier this year, YouTube's biggest star sparked controversy after Disney severed ties with him over jokes about Jewish people and Nazis. At the time, Felix "Pewdiepie" Kjellberg apologised but continued to make many Nazi references in defiance to the outrage. Months later, Kjellberg says he has a different perspective about those jokes and says he's no longer going to make them. 

"At this point, I'd really just want to distance myself from all of this," Kjellberg said. "I remember back when everything happened in February, I was sort of like, 'I mean, they're just jokes. There's not actual Nazis out there, what are you talking about?' And then I look at this, and I'm like, 'Oh, I see. OK!'"

The "this" he is referring to are the events in Charlottesville, Virginia, when torch-wielding white supremacists held a rally that got violent and resulted in a counter-protester being killed. Like many of us, Kjellberg watched in horror, and in a recent vlog update, he says that the events at the rally made him reconsider his approach to humour.


Better late than never I guess.
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CelestialVoices 17 hours ago#2
YourDrunkFather 17 hours ago#3
I did Nazi that coming
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MhkaCHemistry 17 hours ago#4
The targeting was trash. It was stupidly obvious he wasn't a Nazi and WSJ(?) just wanted clicks.

Cutting back on it now after Charlottesville is the right decision for most comedians/funny people out there.
Kisai 17 hours ago#5
Is his commentary, and his videos so dependent on nazi jokes that he has to essentially make a statement about not doing them anymore?
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Zeeak4444 16 hours ago#6
I never watched him before all the drama so I obviously never watched him after but good for him. 

It doesn't abolish him but at least he manned up and admitted he was just being ignorant to current events and has remorse. That's more than I can say about a LOT of people.
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Lost_All_Senses 16 hours ago#7
YourDrunkFather posted...
I did Nazi that coming


HEY JERK! DID YOU KNOW THAT *goes into history lesson*
Did I amuse you?
Darmik 16 hours ago#8
Kisai posted...
Is his commentary, and his videos so dependent on nazi jokes that he has to essentially make a statement about not doing them anymore?


Seems like it heh.

As far as I could tell his Nazi jokes weren't anything more than "Look at me/this other person dressed like a Nazi/saying Nazi s***. Isn't this funny?!" which was pretty dumb.
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Darmik
LinksLiege 16 hours ago#9
Dumb, yes.

A serious problem, hardly.
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iPhone_7 16 hours ago#10
YourDrunkFather posted...
I did Nazi that coming

You just made a Nazi joke, prepare for the outrage
gafemaqs 16 hours ago#11
Gamer99z 16 hours ago#12
Darmik posted...
Kisai posted...
Is his commentary, and his videos so dependent on nazi jokes that he has to essentially make a statement about not doing them anymore?


Seems like it heh.

As far as I could tell his Nazi jokes weren't anything more than "Look at me/this other person dressed like a Nazi/saying Nazi s***. Isn't this funny?!" which was pretty dumb.

He only ever made a few and that's not the context they were presented in at all.

The reason he made the video is basically just to reiterate that he doesn't support Nazis or anything of the sort, isn't a racist as he was painted out to be, but that he was going to stop making jokes like that not out of self censorship or pressure or anything but because he simply doesn't want to make jokes like that any more.

And considering the dude has strayed from gaming videos and mostly just does commentary videos, it's not out of the normal for him to make a video just talking about something.

And I don't even like PewDiePie
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Darmik 16 hours ago#13
Gamer99z posted...
He only ever made a few and that's not the context they were presented in at all.


What was the context?
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Darmik
Milkman5 16 hours ago#14
Darmik posted...
What was the context?


He wore a nazi costume once saying in the video that the media would crop the video to call him a nazi.

I'm not even joking
Darmik 16 hours ago#15
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted...
What was the context?


He wore a nazi costume once saying in the video that the media would crop the video to call him a nazi.

I'm not even joking


lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.
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Darmik
Milkman5 16 hours ago#16
Darmik posted...

lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.


how so? he was right and now all his fans don't trust the media/WSJ
Darmik 16 hours ago#17
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted...

lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.


how so? he was right and now all his fans don't trust the media/WSJ


Because now there are clips of him being a Nazi that he'll have to explain the context to if it's ever brought up again down the line.
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Darmik
Milkman5 16 hours ago#18
Darmik posted...

Because now there are clips of him being a Nazi that he'll have to explain the context to if it's ever brought up again down the line.


the context video has millions of views and everyone on youtube knows about it.

the only people who would believe these articles are morons who believe everything they read, like 50 year old liberals who are completely out of touch with reality and the internet
Darmik 16 hours ago#19
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted...

Because now there are clips of him being a Nazi that he'll have to explain the context to if it's ever brought up again down the line.


the context video has millions of views and everyone on youtube knows about it.

the only people who would believe these articles are morons who believe everything they read, like 50 year old liberals who are completely out of touch with reality and the internet


Lol the context of that reason is still pretty stupid and it's lead to his statement about this now. Dude was naïve enough to think Nazis weren't a thing anymore.
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Darmik
Ricemills 16 hours ago#20
the problem is those neo nazis feels endorsed by Pewdiepie's "joke".

but at least now he realized that his channel being hijacked by actual nazi supporters, not people who jokes about it and trying to stop it.
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Gamer99z 16 hours ago#21
Darmik posted...
Gamer99z posted...
He only ever made a few and that's not the context they were presented in at all.


What was the context?

Not "I'm just gonna randomly dress like a Nazi or cut away to a Nazi thing for no reason whatsoever" he partially overlayed a Nazi march when he was watching the YouTube video on their new system for having people mark stuff and all that, YouTube heroes or whatever it was called. Things like that and that where he was making an obviously exaggerated joke, but it wasn't for "no reason" either.

Darmik posted...
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted... 

lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.


how so? he was right and now all his fans don't trust the media/WSJ


Because now there are clips of him being a Nazi that he'll have to explain the context to if it's ever brought up again down the line.

But it doesn't really matter because if they'd take that out of context then they'd take anything else they can out of context too. He was making a joke within his community of fans, the people who would know better if the media tried to do what they did anyways. And then the icing on the cake was them taking that out of context as well to try to continue to slander him. Which makes it infinitely funnier because you can't even argue "well the joke wasn't even funny/went to far" etc. because the context should you seek it out is basically "watch, they'll take anything out of context to make me look bad/push whatever their narrative is" and that's exactly what they did.
If they're willing to do that, it's only a matter of time before they would've found some offensive joke to get him on because someone was clearly targeting him and had an agenda...
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Dash_Harber 16 hours ago#22
The amount of humor derived from Nazis are directly proportional to the amount of people that actually take them seriously at any given time.
Darmik 16 hours ago#23
Gamer99z posted...
If they're willing to do that, it's only a matter of time before they would've found some offensive joke to get him on because someone was clearly targeting him and had an agenda...


The guy made rape jokes for years no problem lol.
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Darmik
GiftedACIII 16 hours ago#24
Is he still relevant? Even Markiplier is better than him
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Gamer99z 16 hours ago#25
Darmik posted...
Gamer99z posted...
If they're willing to do that, it's only a matter of time before they would've found some offensive joke to get him on because someone was clearly targeting him and had an agenda...


The guy made rape jokes for years no problem lol.

Then they would've then gone after him for that instead had he never made Nazi jokes either, if not rape jokes then something else, etc. And if they couldn't have gotten him on anything they would've gone to another large YouTuber and gone through the same thing.
There was very clearly an agenda behind the faux outrage and blatant lying about PewDiePie.
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Darmik 16 hours ago#26
As far as I remember the biggest controversy was when he paid some foreigners to hold up Nazi slang they didn't understand. What was the context there?
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Darmik
Gamer99z 16 hours ago#27
Darmik posted...
As far as I remember the biggest controversy was when he paid some foreigners to hold up Nazi slang they didn't understand. What was the context there?

Iirc, he went on that site Fiverr or whatever for people who would hold signs for $5, he paid the $5 and intentionally trying to be as offensive as possible put for it to say "death to Jews" or something not expecting them to do it and then was shocked they did it. The whole "joke" was that he didn't expect anyone to do that for a mere $5 and obviously if he agreed with that statement he wouldn't have used that as his example of intentionally trying to say something offensive that he'd get rejected for and he wouldn't have been shocked they did it either.

I think the dudes were foreign but I have no idea if they did they didn't understand English or anything, I didn't hear anything about that, and I think they made a response to it in a video with English text on their signs so I assume they understand it but maybe not, idk.
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Darmik 15 hours ago#28
Darmik posted...
As far as I could tell his Nazi jokes weren't anything more than "Look at me/this other person dressed like a Nazi/saying Nazi s***. Isn't this funny?!" which was pretty dumb.


Even with all the added context this still sounds accurate. Just with an extra "I bet they'd report on me being offensive when I act offensive!"
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Darmik
Esrac 15 hours ago#29
Darmik posted...
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted...

lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.


how so? he was right and now all his fans don't trust the media/WSJ


Because now there are clips of him being a Nazi that he'll have to explain the context to if it's ever brought up again down the line.


1. It doesn't take long to explain the context. Milkman5 just did it in one short post. Not a big deal.

2. Pretty sure Pewdipie is a multimillionaire with a huge fan base. He doesn't have to explain s*** to anyone if he doesn't want to.
Milkman5 posted...
Darmik posted...

lol maybe he didn't think through that plan all too well.


how so? he was right and now all his fans don't trust the media/WSJ


I think the more amusing reaction from his fanbase was when they dug up old Donald Duck WW2 animated shorts, spattered screencaps of it all over the internet, and said it was "proof" that Disney was full of Nazi Sympathizers.

Now I know what some folks here are thinking "wait, weren't those cartoons meant to be *anti* Nazi?" Indeed they were, but the point of those people (and we're talking millions here) of pushing their deliberately false narrative was to show just how easy it is for anyone to take something completely out of context and then use the fabricated offense to paint somebody as something that they're not. Bonus points; They did this knowing full well that the Disney company is especially sensitive to any claims about Uncle Walt himself being in line with the Third Reich, but then the idea was to purposely troll Disney by using their own "outrage first, ask questions never" ruleset against them.

I think the funniest part was how some Disney fans rushed to defend the shorts even though they had no idea what they were actually about. People literally, and without irony, white knighted Donald Duck doing Heil Hitlers either out of pure fanboyism for the company ("it's okay if Disney were Nazi Sympathizers at one point, they make great cartoons!") or they were actual Neo-Nazi giving the company mad props for being on their side ("hell yeah, Seig Der Mousenfurher!").

Suffice to say, the Mouse was not amused by being put on the spot like that and having to explain to unaware people (parents especially, of course) why the f*** they ever drew/animated Donald Duck sporting a Swastika armband and throwing up the Nazi salute. Incidentally, it's probably a large part of why Pewdiepie wasn't *that* heartbroken over the severed ties from Disney, because they ultimately got a taste of their own medicine and their pill was bigger and more bitter.
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wah_wah_wah 15 hours ago#31
Darmik posted...
Darmik posted...
As far as I could tell his Nazi jokes weren't anything more than "Look at me/this other person dressed like a Nazi/saying Nazi s***. Isn't this funny?!" which was pretty dumb.


Even with all the added context this still sounds accurate. Just with an extra "I bet they'd report on me being offensive when I act offensive!"

His joke was about how people would do really insane, stupid things for insignificant amounts of money. That's a fair joke, and one that can probably teach you something if you're not so wrapped up at making a show about how you're better than other people.
Verdekal 15 hours ago#32
I have never watched a single video of his.
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Darmik 15 hours ago#33
wah_wah_wah posted...
His joke was about how people would do really insane, stupid things for insignificant amounts of money. That's a fair joke, and one that can probably teach you something if you're not so wrapped up at making a show about how you're better than other people.


Paying people to say hate speech to be internet famous isn't funny though. People do it for free.

Like 4chan paying adult webcam girls to have a show on their head is actually funny. They were confused but didn't anyway.

I'm not calling him a Nazi but it's pretty damn cringey and I think he's finally realized that.
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wah_wah_wah 15 hours ago#34
Darmik posted...


Paying people to say hate speech to be internet famous isn't funny though

Yes, if that were the joke. But it's not. Try not to get offended before you actually understand what the joke even is. Or do it, if you want to come off as one of those dopey liberals with no priorities. Here is a phrase you'll have to keep in mind: "It wasn't funny, and I have a GREAT sense of humor!"
Gamer99z 15 hours ago#35
Darmik posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
His joke was about how people would do really insane, stupid things for insignificant amounts of money. That's a fair joke, and one that can probably teach you something if you're not so wrapped up at making a show about how you're better than other people.


Paying people to say hate speech to be internet famous isn't funny though. People do it for free.

Like 4chan paying adult webcam girls to have a show on their head is actually funny. They were confused but didn't anyway.

I'm not calling him a Nazi but it's pretty damn cringey and I think he's finally realized that.

He wasn't paying people to say hate speech to become internet famous. He's already worth and making a literal f*** ton of money and is the most subscribed to person on the biggest video sharing platform on the internet. He was solely trying to push boundaries and then joking about people doing anything for money.

And it didn't really have anything to do with him thinking it's cringey, just the Charlottesville thing was sort of an eye opening experience where he had more of a realization that actual Nazis are still actually a thing and are actually doing bad things so he's decided he doesn't want to make jokes like that anymore and just made a video sharing his thoughts on it because like I said that's what he does now mostly, just commentary videos or ones where he just talks about stuff, the gaming videos are the minority of his content now and he seemingly enjoys talking to his community and being straight forward about things so he just made a short 3-4 minute long video on the subject.
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Sativa_Rose 15 hours ago#36
Give Pewdiepie a break. He did nazi this coming.
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wah_wah_wah 15 hours ago#37
Gamer99z posted...
He wasn't paying people to say hate speech to become internet famous. He's already worth and making a literal f*** ton of money and is the most subscribed to person on the biggest video sharing platform on the internet. He was solely trying to push boundaries and then joking about people doing anything for money.

He wasn't trying to push boundaries. If you understand the joke, there is no boundaries being pushed. Built into the joke is how Nazi viewpoints are reprehensible.

But I also think what he's saying about it now is correct too. Now that Nazis are increasingly getting validated, we can't see them as these crazy viewpoints of the past.
Darmik 14 hours ago#38
wah_wah_wah posted...
Darmik posted...


Paying people to say hate speech to be internet famous isn't funny though

Yes, if that were the joke. But it's not. Try not to get offended before you actually understand what the joke even is. Or do it, if you want to come off as one of those dopey liberals with no priorities. Here is a phrase you'll have to keep in mind: "It wasn't funny, and I have a GREAT sense of humor!"


wah_wah_wah posted...
His joke was about how people would do really insane, stupid things for insignificant amounts of money.


?

Like they wouldn't even do if it wasn't someone famous on YouTube asking them to. There's nothing else to get.

Cringing at his jokes and then cringing at his (and your) defense of it doesn't mean I'm offended.
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wah_wah_wah 14 hours ago#39
Darmik posted...

?

Like they wouldn't even do if it wasn't someone famous on YouTube asking them to. There's nothing else to get.

That's also something that people probably need to know about human beings They'll sell out their reputations for embarrassingly small sums of money and approval. 

Darmik posted...
Cringing at his jokes and then cringing at his (and your) defense of it doesn't mean I'm offended.

Whenever the rest of the room is laughing and you're cringing, sorry but you're the wet blanket. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to explain the humor of the movie Knocked Up to my grandma, a similarly out-of-touch person but one I actually like.
Darmik 14 hours ago#40
wah_wah_wah posted...
Whenever the rest of the room is laughing and you're cringing, sorry but you're the wet blanket. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to explain the humor of the movie Knocked Up to my grandma, a similarly out-of-touch person but one I actually like.


Maybe you can pay her 5 bucks to dress like a Nazi and scream Hail Hitler and get the whole family cracking up at the witty skit.
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wah_wah_wah 14 hours ago#41
Darmik posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Whenever the rest of the room is laughing and you're cringing, sorry but you're the wet blanket. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to explain the humor of the movie Knocked Up to my grandma, a similarly out-of-touch person but one I actually like.


Maybe you can pay her 5 bucks to dress like a Nazi and scream Hail Hitler and get the whole family cracking up at the witty skit.

You're such a good person
Dabrikishaw15 11 hours ago#42
And nothing of value was lost.
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NibeIungsnarf 11 hours ago#43
Don't be like that, pew.
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