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Ultimaspirit posted...Starks posted...
Ultima, do you even know what non-binary is? They don't want to choose a gender or never had one.
Which means they're problematic. Your point?
How?"Hey bridesmaid, love the beard! Give's me something to hang onto!!"- Lord Flasheartmad_hax_man posted...Ultimaspirit posted...
Starks posted...
Ultima, do you even know what non-binary is? They don't want to choose a gender or never had one.
Which means they're problematic. Your point?
How?
If you don't fit in to a designated role in society then no one should be put in to the position of trusting their life to someone that can't make up their own mind about who they are. There's tons of other career paths out there that don't require you to be in the middle of a literal war zone.Ultimaspirit posted...mad_hax_man posted...
Ultimaspirit posted...
Starks posted...
Ultima, do you even know what non-binary is? They don't want to choose a gender or never had one.
Which means they're problematic. Your point?
How?
If you don't fit in to a designated role in society then no one should be put in to the position of trusting their life to someone that can't make up their own mind about who they are. There's tons of other career paths out there that don't require you to be in the middle of a literal war zone.
I don't know where to start with this.
-Transgender people on the whole aren't people that "haven't made up their mind" Some of them are, but mostly its people who have made up their mind and have come to a conclusion that pisses off a lot of bigots.
-And if a society isn't changing its understandings to include a naturally occurring, scientifically observable biological phenomena, then that's on said societies head."Hey bridesmaid, love the beard! Give's me something to hang onto!!"- Lord Flasheart
Yahaha! You found me!Bluebomber182 posted...try doing some goddamn research before talking out your ass again gradieus
He should try doing a little research before impersonating Reddit users too.Make America Great(ish) Again Impeach Donald "Snowflake" TrumpGradieus posted...reallydontknow posted...
You have no military experience to make that claim. Case closed.
Is this how the Left thinks? I can't say it's raining outside because I'm not a meteorologist!
Lmao. Learn what facts are.
And you used the logic of "unless you give me names of specific individuals, they do not exist". It's not your meteorologist thing, but it's close. I'm surprised you didn't ask for the names of the 15,000 estimated to be currently serving. I'm sure you'd read all the thousands of names, if it existed. But why name and shame these people? Are you going to go verify their identities after?
Gradieus posted...reallydontknow posted...
Gradieus posted...
reallydontknow posted...
You have no military experience to make that claim. Case closed.
Is this how the Left thinks? I can't say it's raining outside because I'm not a meteorologist!
Lmao. Learn what facts are.
Facts are there are at least 3000 transgender people in the military. But hey, you know those pesky facts that you're ignoring.
Estimated because no one is outright saying they are in the open. It's called statistics.
I'm pretty sure an estimation of 3,000 wouldn't also allow for there to be 0. That's one hell of a margin of error."Every single Jedi, including your friend Obi-Wan, is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy."cannonball_java posted...Wrong. Chelsea Manning.
TundraKing87 posted...The military is an extension of the government and our society at large. Trans Americans have to pay taxes. Their taxes go to funding the military, just like ours. If they are barred from service outright, regardless of work ethic, individual competence, etc., I damn sure hope they get a big, fat gift back from Uncle Sam come tax season.
Word. I would voluntarily put myself on a "never able to enlist" list if it meant all my taxes going to the military were refunded to me.RogueJedi86 posted...And you used the logic of "unless you give me names of specific individuals, they do not exist".
Pointing out the obvious that they're not open about it because it's always been bannable. If one can't name their names then they're not open about it. That's it, that's my point. Of course there's transgenders in the military, I never said there wasn't. But there's a difference whether you're open about it or not because it's bannable.Gradieus posted...RogueJedi86 posted...
And you used the logic of "unless you give me names of specific individuals, they do not exist".
Pointing out the obvious that they're not open about it because it's always been bannable. If one can't name their names then they're not open about it. That's it, that's my point. Of course there's transgenders in the military, I never said there wasn't. But there's a difference whether you're open about it or not because it's bannable.
That's because I chose not to name them.
Bannable? Most seniors don't care who or what you are or do if you do your job and keep your nose clean. One sailor I knew use to travel on the weekend to do international pole dancing competitions.( but according to you it didn't happen) , our skipper knew about it.
But let's play your logic.Tell me the numbers on your bank account.
If you can't, you don't have one.
But if names are so important.
"Jim" and "Pickle"First of all, that doesn't have any bearing on whether or not they should.
Second, it's not true. See Logan Island and Jacob Eleazer."The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Garioshi/wishlistreallydontknow posted...Gradieus posted...
RogueJedi86 posted...
And you used the logic of "unless you give me names of specific individuals, they do not exist".
Pointing out the obvious that they're not open about it because it's always been bannable. If one can't name their names then they're not open about it. That's it, that's my point. Of course there's transgenders in the military, I never said there wasn't. But there's a difference whether you're open about it or not because it's bannable.
That's because I chose not to name them.
Bannable? Most seniors don't care who or what you are or do if you do your job and keep your nose clean. One sailor I knew use to travel on the weekend to do international pole dancing competitions.( but according to you it didn't happen) , our skipper knew about it.
But let's play your logic.Tell me the numbers on your bank account.
If you can't, you don't have one.
But if names are so important.
"Jim" and "Pickle"
"Seniors don't care!"
Okay name their names.
"Not going to name names!"
Okkkay. Clearly you don't want to name them for fear they'll get kicked out of the military. So if you fear that then maybe someone above them does care.Gradieus posted...reallydontknow posted...
Gradieus posted...
RogueJedi86 posted...
And you used the logic of "unless you give me names of specific individuals, they do not exist".
Pointing out the obvious that they're not open about it because it's always been bannable. If one can't name their names then they're not open about it. That's it, that's my point. Of course there's transgenders in the military, I never said there wasn't. But there's a difference whether you're open about it or not because it's bannable.
That's because I chose not to name them.
Bannable? Most seniors don't care who or what you are or do if you do your job and keep your nose clean. One sailor I knew use to travel on the weekend to do international pole dancing competitions.( but according to you it didn't happen) , our skipper knew about it.
But let's play your logic.Tell me the numbers on your bank account.
If you can't, you don't have one.
But if names are so important.
"Jim" and "Pickle"
"Seniors don't care!"
Okay name their names.
"Not going to name names!"
Okkkay. Clearly you don't want to name them for fear they'll get kicked out of the military. So if you fear that then maybe someone above them does care.
People have the right to privacy and you're seriously trying to bait people into posting personal information????????feudel posted...Why the **** do you care. Stop being a transphobic yokel. Then again you'll just mark anyone who disagrees with you and then complain your freedom of speech is being squelched.
I dunno mate, everyone keeps telling me there's already open transgender people in the military, that the seniors don't care, that it's all normal.
And yet don't dare tell someone online the names of these people.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not as open as they want us to believe.reminder: no username named Gradieus ever openly made a non-troll topicfeudel posted...
People have the right to privacy and you're seriously trying to bait people into posting personal information
I asked who they were describing to see whether it's truly open or not. Obviously it isn't.
Excuse me for not just believing some stranger on the internet that "everyone's open about being transgender in the military".
How you don't see that I proved it's not open is beyond me.Well for what it's worth, the NYT has someone on record:Lt. Commander Blake Dremann, a Navy supply corps officer who is transgender, said he found out his job was in danger when he turned on CNN on Wednesday morning. Commander Dremann came out as transgender to his commanders in 2015, and said they had been supportive of him.
He refused to criticize Mr. Trump — “we don’t criticize our commander in chief,” he said — but said the policy shift “is singling out a specific population in the military, who had been assured we were doing everything appropriate to continue our honorable service.”
He added: “And I will continue to do so, until the military tells me to hang up my boots.”Gradieus posted...feudel posted...
Why the **** do you care. Stop being a transphobic yokel. Then again you'll just mark anyone who disagrees with you and then complain your freedom of speech is being squelched.
I dunno mate, everyone keeps telling me there's already open transgender people in the military, that the seniors don't care, that it's all normal.
And yet don't dare tell someone online the names of these people.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not as open as they want us to believe.
Why does it matter to you? do transgendered people upset you? Do you get "anxious"? Do you get mad? Are you just secretly at odds with your own gender identity you lash out at others?
Please tell us why this bothers you so much.????????TimeForAction posted...Well for what it's worth, the NYT has someone on record:
Lt. Commander Blake Dremann, a Navy supply corps officer who is transgender, said he found out his job was in danger when he turned on CNN on Wednesday morning. Commander Dremann came out as transgender to his commanders in 2015, and said they had been supportive of him.
He refused to criticize Mr. Trump — “we don’t criticize our commander in chief,” he said — but said the policy shift “is singling out a specific population in the military, who had been assured we were doing everything appropriate to continue our honorable service.”
He added: “And I will continue to do so, until the military tells me to hang up my boots.”
Great, but he's now going to be one of the first ones gone.feudel posted...Gradieus posted...
feudel posted...
Why the **** do you care. Stop being a transphobic yokel. Then again you'll just mark anyone who disagrees with you and then complain your freedom of speech is being squelched.
I dunno mate, everyone keeps telling me there's already open transgender people in the military, that the seniors don't care, that it's all normal.
And yet don't dare tell someone online the names of these people.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not as open as they want us to believe.
Why does it matter to you? do transgendered people upset you? Do you get "anxious"? Do you get mad? Are you just secretly at odds with your own gender identity you lash out at others?
Please tell us why this bothers you so much.
Only one freaking out here is you. President has spoken.Gradieus posted...TimeForAction posted...
Well for what it's worth, the NYT has someone on record:
Lt. Commander Blake Dremann, a Navy supply corps officer who is transgender, said he found out his job was in danger when he turned on CNN on Wednesday morning. Commander Dremann came out as transgender to his commanders in 2015, and said they had been supportive of him.
He refused to criticize Mr. Trump — “we don’t criticize our commander in chief,” he said — but said the policy shift “is singling out a specific population in the military, who had been assured we were doing everything appropriate to continue our honorable service.”
He added: “And I will continue to do so, until the military tells me to hang up my boots.”
Great, but he's now going to be one of the first ones gone.
Great. So you're wrong. There is an open trans in the military. Lol.Gradieus posted...feudel posted...
Gradieus posted...
feudel posted...
Why the **** do you care. Stop being a transphobic yokel. Then again you'll just mark anyone who disagrees with you and then complain your freedom of speech is being squelched.
I dunno mate, everyone keeps telling me there's already open transgender people in the military, that the seniors don't care, that it's all normal.
And yet don't dare tell someone online the names of these people.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not as open as they want us to believe.
Why does it matter to you? do transgendered people upset you? Do you get "anxious"? Do you get mad? Are you just secretly at odds with your own gender identity you lash out at others?
Please tell us why this bothers you so much.
Only one freaking out here is you. President has spoken.
And he got checked by the joint chiefs. Chairman said ignore twitterfingers.Gradieus posted...feudel posted...
Gradieus posted...
feudel posted...
Why the **** do you care. Stop being a transphobic yokel. Then again you'll just mark anyone who disagrees with you and then complain your freedom of speech is being squelched.
I dunno mate, everyone keeps telling me there's already open transgender people in the military, that the seniors don't care, that it's all normal.
And yet don't dare tell someone online the names of these people.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not as open as they want us to believe.
Why does it matter to you? do transgendered people upset you? Do you get "anxious"? Do you get mad? Are you just secretly at odds with your own gender identity you lash out at others?
Please tell us why this bothers you so much.
Only one freaking out here is you. President has spoken.
Your the one asking for peoples names. i'm simply asking what is your issue with the transgendered. Don't try to ignore me????????Why would anybody want to be transgender in the military. You're just be bullied to oblivion. You might as well go jump of a 3 story building if an openly trans person is going to join the militaryGarioshi posted...First of all, that doesn't have any bearing on whether or not they should.
Second, it's not true. See Logan Island and Jacob Eleazer."The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma
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