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Spooking posted...
Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol And some of their goals want dead cops. When do they want them? Now.
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Capn Circus posted...
Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol this is an official BLM platform? |
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A biased assessment becuase the left calls anyone a Nazi these days
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According to the right Nazis are evil because they socialized medicine and enacted gun control.
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boxington posted...
Capn Circus posted...Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol I'm not sure. I've seen an awful lot of them chanting that, though. At official BLM rallies, too. So you tell me.
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MangaFan462 posted...
A biased assessment becuase the left calls anyone a Nazi these days Nope, only the alt right |
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MangaFan462 posted...
A biased assessment becuase the left calls anyone a Nazi these days if it marches like a nazi, and chants like a nazi, and waves flags like a nazi, it might just be a disgruntled young man with economic anxiety! |
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Capn Circus posted...
boxington posted...Capn Circus posted...Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol Yet you'll equivocate nazis lol.
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Capn Circus posted...
boxington posted...Capn Circus posted...Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol Unless this is an official platform, that falls under "some super s***ty members."
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CrimsonRage posted...
Fair assessment. That's why saying "both sides are as bad" is dishonest and people who say it shouldn't be taken seriously. |
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The Admiral posted...
loaded with plenty of racists on par with folks at the Charlottesville rally. You think a sizable amount of BLM members are comparable to Nazis?
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_Near_ posted...
The Admiral posted...loaded with plenty of racists on par with folks at the Charlottesville rally. No, they're comparable to white supremacists. Don't really see any difference between white supremacist rhetoric and this: http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/11/black-lives-matter-co-founder-appears-to-label-white-people-defects
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Blackstar110 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...A biased assessment becuase the left calls anyone a Nazi these days The problem with the majority of liberals is guilt by association of these people with literal swastikas. If not all people in BLM are radicals, then one must also be willing to admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi.
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The Admiral posted...
_Near_ posted...The Admiral posted...loaded with plenty of racists on par with folks at the Charlottesville rally. according to a post on what appears to be her Facebook page. So was it her Facebook page or not? Also it looks like she's the founder for Toronto BLM but not the original movement.
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BLM is generally good intentioned but the issues arise from no central idea or back bone.
It's like Anonymous in that it can mean everything and nothing at the same time, which gives people widely different views of it. Nazi's and alt right have a lot more central ideas and they're and despicable
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Blackstar110 posted...MangaFan462 posted...A biased assessment becuase the left calls anyone a Nazi these days No |
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No what? You typically refute arguments with a counter-contention.
You're saying that if I asked someone two questions (do you consider yourself a liberal and do you think the conservatives are representative of Nazis), the probably of both answers being "yes" won't be fairly high?
You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?
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thompsontalker7 posted...
No what? You typically refute arguments with a counter-contention. That's exactly what Im saying |
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Just because Nazis are conservative doesn't mean all conservatives are Nazis.
If anything I was shocked at the conservatives here presuming everyone counter-protesting the Nazis were extremely liberal. I'm more scared of that mentality. Both liberals and conservatives should be standing against Nazi rhetoric and I feel like they would have a decade ago.
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thompsontalker7 posted...
You're exactly saying what? That you agree with me? The majority of liberals dont think conservatives are nazis. Just like the majority of conservatives dont think liberals are communists. You sound like someone who lives in a bubble with limited real world exposure to people with different views. |
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Darmik posted...
If anything I was shocked at the conservatives here presuming everyone counter-protesting the Nazis were extremely liberal. I'm more scared of that mentality. This is an incredibly good and understated point. A lot of the reaction has been "but Antifa and BLM say this!!!" as if everyone who showed up to protest against literal nazis MUST have been Antifa. A lot of them were just citizens standing up for what is obviously and blatantly right.
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Capn Circus posted...
boxington posted...Capn Circus posted...Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol It's not, but of course that isn't your concern whether it's true or not. Your concern is making BLM look as s***ty as possible.
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
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Zodd3224 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...You're exactly saying what? That you agree with me? Don't get all pissy because no one feels like entertaining your half-assed reactions until you get mad. I coach debate at my old high school; the very opposite of your "limited real world exposure". I tell people to avoid having the same train of thought you and everyone else here tend to have when they debate; to get as quickly to the "shut-down" process while avoiding any rational lines of thought and not establishing pro/neg contentions. All people wanna do is what you're doing right now, to delude yourself into thinking I'm some sort of charity case to avoid really defending the side you've taken. And just like any real debate, taking a side doesn't necessarily mean you represent their ideals, a mistake that 95% of CE has been making this entire time. Someone can go "well damn, this side is taking it too far" without necessarily advocating the other side. That's what I was doing.
You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...thompsontalker7 posted...You're exactly saying what? That you agree with me? Lmao, yeah I'm the pissy one here... and nothing you just said added anything to the discussion, my friend |
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It added background; to show that you're quick to jumping to conclusions for no good reason because you don't wanna ponder the positives and negatives.
Obviously we're at an impasse on the topic because we agree on different viewpoints. But instead of elaborating on your in-depth "No" cross-examination you wanna just go straight for the credibility fallacy. Just cut it out bruh and tell me why you're feeling the way you do on the topic, if that's possible
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thompsontalker7 posted...
admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi. I think you misunderstand. Conservative in and of itself is not related to neo Nazi. But the alt-right was created by a literal Nazi. Alt-right leaders are literally high ranking members of the current administration. Our current President just said that the people trying to stop a literal march of literally armed literal Nazis were just as bad as the Nazis themselves. The current American Republican Party has fancied themselves the protectors of conservatism and their current leader has courted the interests of literal Nazis. You can be a conservative and be unrelated to Nazis. Conservatives did it for years. No one called Bush a Nazi... or Reagan. But it's hard to support Trump and not, at the very least, turn a blind eye to the Nazi influences.
We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.
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thompsontalker7 posted...
It added background; to show that you're quick to jumping to conclusions for no good reason because you don't wanna ponder the positives and negatives. If you think "most" liberals think all conservatives are Nazis you're just flat out wrong. There isn't really anything left to discuss. Do "some" liberals think that? Of course. They are fools. And that "some" is a small percentage that happens to get media coverage. |
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Can't we just agree that racism in all shapes and forms is bad? :u I'd like that.
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The Deadpool posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi. I understand that much. But as I mentioned before, the problem is that the current liberal political flowchart always starts off with Republicans and almost always ends in either "white supremacist" or "Nazi". This is unfair in particular because while I'd be the first to agree that the majority of those two are part of the right, that doesn't necessarily conclude that everyone on there is as well. Hell, my father lived down in NC as a black man for a good part of his early life and he was a longtime Republican in the second half. Do people not understand how that state of mind can have nothing to do with the viewpoint of one's skin? This "us vs. them" attitude didn't start with Trump, and neither will it end with him. Is this enough of a catalyst for the average person to go "yep, I can only ever see this one way from now on"? I believe so. What bugs me is that people seem to think this type of behavior is exclusively endorsed by Trump, when all the evidence presented so far doesn't really do that. Sure, saying "both sides are responsible" is a bold statement to make. But to an extent, I feel it would be a stretch to say that the left didn't instigate even a little bit, in order to discredit that claim. Sure, one side mowed down the other with a car and that's fricking terrible beyond words. But is the knee-jerk reaction of "f*** Nazis, punch everyone there" the appropriate long-term goal here? There doesn't seem to be an end goal in general besides "f*** Trump", which I'm sure is a multi-point objective that doesn't have violence anywhere on it.
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thompsontalker7 posted...
The Deadpool posted...thompsontalker7 posted...admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi. Shut the f*** up
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...The Deadpool posted...thompsontalker7 posted...admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi. TT7 does have a point here. I been saying punching that Richard guy on TV was THE dumbest response possible to his, should have been 30 seconds of fame, speech and I get labeled a Nazi for that.
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scar the 1 posted...
Spooking posted...Need to put "some" before noble because some of their goals include dismantling police departments. lol you say that as if BLM is centralized with actual goals in mind
You feast on red herring because it is your birthright.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
not everybody with an irrational contempt for Black people standing up for themselves identify as White supremacists, but even manure comes in more than one brand. Get 'em!
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
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This is how conservatives view all liberals. Sad!thompsontalker7 posted...I understand that much [...] that doesn't necessarily conclude that everyone on there is as well.
Then you don't understand what I read at all.
You can be right wing without having anything to do with Nazis and white supremacists and KKK.
You can't support Trump and not, at the very least, be silently complicit with them.
You can argue "Oh I don't support Trump because of racism, I support him because of taxes" or whatever bulls*** you want give. But in the end, the racism, the white supremacists, the Nazis... They are still there. And you had to look at it and go "I mean, the Nazis are bad, but they're not bad for ME. And taxes are bad for ME so... Whatever."
And no, that doesn't make you a Nazi yourself. But it doesn't make you a good person either...We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.This "guilt by association" mentality is toxic and further drives the idea of "us vs. them" further.
Why is the idea a third option so hard to grasp? Can someone denounce one side without being forced to default to the other side or look like an indecisive tool? There's a reason why the two political parties are gradually losing their identity over the years.You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?thompsontalker7 posted...This "guilt by association" mentality is toxic
Guilt by association is a fallacy when the association is accidental.
When you WILLING and KNOWLING choose to associate with scumbags and further their agenda for your own personal gain, you do share some of the guilt.
If you plan a murder and I'm your brother, that's not on me. If you plan a murder and tell me about it, and I lend you my car to drive to the location... I'm not AS guilty, but I'm not innocent...We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.The Deadpool posted...thompsontalker7 posted...
This "guilt by association" mentality is toxic
Guilt by association is a fallacy when the association is accidental.
When you WILLING and KNOWLING choose to associate with scumbags and further their agenda for your own personal gain, you do share some of the guilt.
If you plan a murder and I'm your brother, that's not on me. If you plan a murder and tell me about it, and I lend you my car to drive to the location... I'm not AS guilty, but I'm not innocent...
I was particularly thinking about the moderates being considered "indecisive" or "cowardly to pick a side".
Sorry, but the world is closer to Game of Thrones morality than Marvel. Everyone has an ulterior motive in addition to their stated one and picking a side isn't going to change that. A moderate viewpoint is closer to introspective than it is indecisive. What's the point of making educated decisions if all people want to do is tell you to feel a certain way at something all the time because it's right/wrong?You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?thompsontalker7 posted...I was particularly thinking about the moderates being considered "indecisive" or "cowardly to pick a side".
No. You weren't.
thompsontalker7 posted...admit that conservative views are not correlation to being a f***ing Nazi.
That's what started the conversation.We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.everybody is to be held accountable for their vote. regardless of whether or not your vote got you the results you wanted, you and you alone are responsible for your own actions/inaction.
voting should be a right for every American citizen. it's the voter's job to educate themselves before voting, so ignorance is no excuse. especially when research has NEVER been this easy before.
Donald Trump has been consistent in his attitude and rhetoric. I actually remember people on this board arguing that Trump "wasn't really like that, and was just trying to get votes." even though he's shown a history of that rhetoric before he even announced that he'd be running. if you were complicit enough to vote for him, you're guilty.
y'all let Trump defeat literally every other candidate who ran Republican, including Rand Paul. your vote and the vote of your peers did this. if you regret your vote, fine. acknowledge the mistake. but you don't get to be relieved of accountability. you're not children anymore when you take on adult privileges, so stop trying to get treated like a puppy who didn't know the carpet isn't the place to s***.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
BAWSE!Roxborough4Ever posted...RickyTheBAWSE posted...
everybody is to be held accountable for their vote. regardless of whether or not your vote got you the results you wanted, you and you alone are responsible for your own actions/inaction.
voting should be a right for every American citizen. it's the voter's job to educate themselves before voting, so ignorance is no excuse. especially when research has NEVER been this easy before.
Donald Trump has been consistent in his attitude and rhetoric. I actually remember people on this board arguing that Trump "wasn't really like that, and was just trying to get votes." even though he's shown a history of that rhetoric before he even announced that he'd be running. if you were complicit enough to vote for him, you're guilty.
y'all let Trump defeat literally every other candidate who ran Republican, including Rand Paul. your vote and the vote of your peers did this. if you regret your vote, fine. acknowledge the mistake. but you don't get to be relieved of accountability. you're not children anymore when you take on adult privileges, so stop trying to get treated like a puppy who didn't know the carpet isn't the place to s***.
your desperate to blame the guy driving the car into those people on Trump,
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literally not even worth posting that low quality response, lolololol.
your disagreement is noted though.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
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