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9 or 10 years ago you wouldn't see or hear people screaming about transgender rights or that transgenders shouldn't exist...and if so you didn't hear about the roaring debate as often and as much as you do now in 2017
it seems like an extremely hot topic on the news and every website today one side claiming transgenders are cropping up more and more and we have to accept that they are here while another side claims they are the super minority and numbers of there being thousands upon thousands of transgenders just in one state alone is overblown
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The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc.
So trans people were seen as the next scapegoat to rally against because people didn't know that much about them, so they're convenient to turn into a boogeyman and claim that they're hiding in restrooms to attack little girls and such.
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. it just boggles the mind because there are far more gays than transgenders in the country but i guess that means it makes sense because nobody can challenge their mindset because "well have you encountered the transgender community?" and the answer is no a large majority of us have not nor will we ever bump into a transgender person outside the internet yet the screaming fox news box has us convinced they are everywhere and trying to trick us into having sex woth them it's also a very touchy issue where you either get labeled a whiny SJW or a bigoted monster for even getting involved once i don't get the fox news attackers who claim they are invading our space just as i don't get the wannabe SJW's who demand representation for transgenders in every piece of media when they probably know very few transgenders and are only saying that for some positive karma(or so they believe)
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. Precisely. Gays and lesbians became normalized in TV and movies like Glee and such. Hell, even people I spoke to when I lived in Japan said Kurt was their favorite character. So if you can't bash gays, who do you prop up as a scary boogeyman? Why, how about those weirdos who are men but say they're really a woman? Let's all be afraid of them!
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I'd going to go with Tumblrites trying to claim Gender is a social construct so all toilets should be open to all genders and made into non gender specific ones so you don't potentially offend non binary people.
I mean it's also been heavily pushed by Gender studies for the rather obvious reason that more genders = more things to study which makes the subject seem to have a purpose lol
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Like most issues these days, it started with some serious discussion of real issues, now it's just a bunch of escalating shrieking going back and forth.
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i think the people who think there are over 50 genders are kinda nuts....this debate has gotten out of hand and i think half of the people praising transgenders or attacking them on television and online are only doing so for ratings and clicks
most of them couldn't give a damn about transgenders and only talk about them because it's such a popular thing to discuss talk show hosts who admire and praise transgenders will get the tumblr crowd to rally around them and cheer them on talk show hosts who attack and insult transgenders will get the fox news tinfoil hat crowd to hoot and holler
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc.
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I'd going to go with Tumblrites trying to claim Gender is a social construct so all toilets should be open to all genders and made into non gender specific ones so you don't potentially offend non binary people. Is there anything you won't blame on the left?
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. pretty much this
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Like most issues these days, it started with some serious discussion of real issues, now it's just a bunch of escalating shrieking going back and forth. the worst thing to happen would be if a separate gender neutral bathroom was created just how useful would that be in the long run?
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Because the left and right needed a new wedge issue after the Supreme Court decided on gay marriage.
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The trans community can have something of a complex about their lives. They feel they're born into the wrong body, try to compensate, but 2 problems persist: that the change is not 100% down to the full anatomy and genetics, and that that makes others not fully accept them as the gender they wish to be, so there's always a feeling of living a lie one way or the other.
Instead of dealing with this, some have taken to yelling at the world to help them prop up their identity. It's why something like a gender neutral bathroom wouldn't work: it would still be seen as just being shoved off to the side and not really being male or female. Then the kooks come in with new genders and pronouns and a demanding attitude akin to Verruca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (aka spoiled brat) about using them or you hate them, and the other side starts to put their foot down before they have to acquiesce to any and everything from not just legitimate transgendereds, but someone with a more serious cognitive condition (ie schizophrenia) or just someone doing something for shits and giggles. |
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sometime around here is where I first noticed it. This was mid 2013 or so:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-california-transgender-idUSBRE97C01S20130813 it wasn't necessarily a debate over transgendered people and their place in society to begin with, but the increasing use of the term "gender identity" in a legal context to allow anyone to use whatever facility they wanted if they felt like it.
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I'm going to go with Republicans suddenly deciding to pass bills about bathrooms.
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Because once the liberals won the gay marriage battle, they had to move onto something else.
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I'm going to go with Republicans suddenly deciding to pass bills about bathrooms. you mean like Democrat Jerry Brown did?
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. Yup. The GOP lost the war over gays, so they moved on the the next vulnerable, most logical target. They will keep doing so until there's nothing left. Basically, Conservatives are the real social justice warriors.
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. Basically. They were losing ground fast on the LGB front so turned towards the T. Camelotking524 posted... Because the left and right needed a new wedge issue after the Supreme Court decided on gay marriage. Right's fault.
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Caitlyn Jenner The was pretty much the peak of it that conveniently happened at just the right time.. Then you have the media reminding everyone that transgender women might be in the bathroom with your wife and daughter, which in turn caused all of this negative outrage.. I don't recall in the 80's and 90's anyone caring about this subject until recently when it started getting shoved down everyone's throats... Then again, we didn't have social media back then like we do today.. All the media is good for is causing drama and controversy... But that is what they need to keep going.. |
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I don't think it was the right that was the ones jumping on the bandwagon when a few transgender students wanted to use the locker rooms that matched their gender identity? I think you need to be a bit more cynical about this.
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Gays got the rights they deserved, left rear out of actual civil rights issues, transtrenders began to suddenly want their own identity which is dumb.
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OffDogs posted...
Gays got the rights they deserved, left rear out of actual civil rights issues, transtrenders began to suddenly want their own identity which is dumb. I think being a backwards, ignorant, pig-headed bigot is dumb. We all have our beliefs.
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We can thank the Kardashians, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry for making America into a shit hole. I'll just thank the Republican party.
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mad_hax_man posted...
So you're saying radical people who want to forcibly push their ideology are what the left as a whole stands for now?
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NativitylnBIood posted...Like most issues these days, it started with some serious discussion of real issues, now it's just a bunch of escalating shrieking going back and forth. We have them. It's called the disabled toilet.
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mercurydude posted...
The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. Pretty much. They lost same sex marriage so the GOP went after the transsexuals, which turned out to be unconstitutional and then they made a big stink about "liberal activist judges" upholding the constitution and tried to play it off like it was the democrats fault all along for trying to prevent them from doing unconstitutional shit.
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A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
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OffDogs posted...Gays got the rights they deserved, left rear out of actual civil rights issues, transtrenders began to suddenly want their own identity which is dumb. I agree... Why quote me?
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NightMareBunny posted...
9 or 10 years ago you wouldn't see or hear people screaming about transgender rights or that transgenders shouldn't exist...and if so you didn't hear about the roaring debate as often and as much as you do now in 2017 Recent laws to ban transgenders from bathrooms.
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Conservatives lost the war against gays, so now they need a new scapegoat. It's not a coincidence that transphobia ramped up after Obergefell.
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A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal Oh please.
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dj4242 posted...A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal Luckily, the bad end of the deal in this situation is not on the receiving end of a knife.
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Idiot pundits on both sides escalating shit for views, youtubers doing the same, reality tv, a shit economy that makes everyone more partial to what they think is better for their wallets, a war that is approaching our involvement in Vietnam, everybody trying to enforce their views on other people's hobbies, an education system designed to keep people in debt as long as possible, entry level service jobs disappearing due to automation and high corporate taxes, a stigma against the type of education that would actually prepare you for the current job environment, escalating racial tensions, increasing religious zealotry in previously peaceful areas, old wars tensions reawakening...uhh what was the question?
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A lot of things were different 9 or 10 years ago.
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A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal Yes, I've seen this mentality before. The thought process is that civil rights are a limited resource and that if previously marginalized groups have their civil rights recognized, they are getting a prize and the people who already took those civil rights for granted are somehow spurned because they didn't get anything out of the "deal" as expressed here. Basically, the insistence is that the status quo must be maintained, hence why these folks very suddenly became okay with civil unions towards the tail end of the marriage equality battle. They saw that they were about to lose and wanted to see if they could still keep gays and lesbians as second class citizens through some form of 'compromise' that would have ONLY benefited them at this point, "But wait, what if you have the same rights but we call it a civil union instead of marriage so we can still look down our nose at you and treat your same-sex union as inferior to the godly heterosexual one! Then everyone's happy, right?" It's very juvenile, but it explains why they called marriage equality a special right and think that lobbying for ACTUAL special rights for Christian Dominionists is just the way things ought to be. Trump's ban on transgender people wouldn't have helped these people in any way, shape, or form, other than giving them another excuse as to why they could imagine themselves superior to transgender people, but for these petty types, that's quite the victory.
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Just another Democrat fad, pushing a phony issue to start fights and divide us, with the ultimate intent of undermining and destroying our nation. As always, it was the newsrooms and the fake news media that built it up 24/7.That's because even though these rich SJW lobbyists are only a fraction of 1 percent, there are so many of them in the oligarchy working to grow their personal power and establishment grip on the American people. They exist to cause problems, divide and oppress us, and they are the source of all our problems. Nobody talks about this fringe issue in real life. That's cute, you talking about oppression.
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Probably Caitlyn Jenner Bruce snaking his way out of manslaughter charges
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Whether a reflection of what was going on in society or a contributor to it, that fact that DSM-5 reclassified it from a disorder to dysphoria probably has removed a lot of the stigma in some people's minds. Probably most likely in a transgender person's mind, like you don't have a disorder.
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The rumblings starting in 2007/2008 when Facebook opened to the general public, Twitter took off, 4th wave feminism began (everything is a social construct! which is stupid considering these people then say also say they were born with a male brain in a female body and vice versa), smartphone mania, etc.
Then orange is the new black had a transgender character, time magazine's "the transgender tipping point" article, and caityln jenner happened happened around 2014/2015ish.
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mercurydude posted...dj4242 posted...
A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
Yes, I've seen this mentality before. The thought process is that civil rights are a limited resource and that if previously marginalized groups have their civil rights recognized, they are getting a prize and the people who already took those civil rights for granted are somehow spurned because they didn't get anything out of the "deal" as expressed here.
Basically, the insistence is that the status quo must be maintained, hence why these folks very suddenly became okay with civil unions towards the tail end of the marriage equality battle. They saw that they were about to lose and wanted to see if they could still keep gays and lesbians as second class citizens through some form of 'compromise' that would have ONLY benefited them at this point, "But wait, what if you have the same rights but we call it a civil union instead of marriage so we can still look down our nose at you and treat your same-sex union as inferior to the godly heterosexual one! Then everyone's happy, right?"
It's very juvenile, but it explains why they called marriage equality a special right and think that lobbying for ACTUAL special rights for Christian Dominionists is just the way things ought to be.
Trump's ban on transgender people wouldn't have helped these people in any way, shape, or form, other than giving them another excuse as to why they could imagine themselves superior to transgender people, but for these petty types, that's quite the victory.
Fantastic.River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer'I think for straight males its moreso they dont want to be constantly blamed for everything. I mean if the only thing you need to do to get straight white men to vote for a black guy with a muslim name twice with very high percentages is to not call them racist, sexist, transphobic, etc, then maybe you shouldnt do that?
Social media magnified identity politics to a large amount. It seems like there is a lot hatred towards a group of people that only a minuscule amount of people in said group have actual significant power. 2015ish seemed to see the beginnings of the backlash, and it mightve peaked in 2016 with Trump/brexit/etc.Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016dj4242 posted...A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
I don't understand how these alt right loons can think being a straight male is somehow a bad deal. Maybe you just suck so much at life, your gender and sexual orientation can't compensate for itShadow_jdct posted...dj4242 posted...
A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
I don't understand how these alt right loons can think being a straight male is somehow a bad deal. Maybe you just suck so much at life, your gender and sexual orientation can't compensate for it
Trying to remember what comedian you ripped off this "realization" from.the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, Back Blue
I will fight socialism til hell freezes over, then I will fight on the ice.mercurydude posted...The big reason is because the culture war against gays and lesbians was seen as the lost cause it was and even declared as such by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc.
So trans people were seen as the next scapegoat to rally against because people didn't know that much about them, so they're convenient to turn into a boogeyman and claim that they're hiding in restrooms to attack little girls and such.
It's this exactly. The right-wing "culture war" types need a minority to openly discriminate against. With it becoming less and less popular to be anti-gay, they've moved on to anti-transgender.A bad enough dude to save the President.
"We chose more government instead of more freedom." - Marco Rubio (R-Florida) on the Bush administrationOffDogs posted...Shadow_jdct posted...
dj4242 posted...
A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
I don't understand how these alt right loons can think being a straight male is somehow a bad deal. Maybe you just suck so much at life, your gender and sexual orientation can't compensate for it
Trying to remember what comedian you ripped off this "realization" from.
You're probably thinking of Louis CKblame both the pat robertson types in need of a new boogyman to be scared of and the tumblr people shrieking at you if you don't call them by their pronoun of the dayArrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt
Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -NekoslashI've been friends with a few transgendered people, so I am glad that they are getting the help they need. I've also been surprised with this growing concern about them in the West, and I suspect it is because their struggled have been closely (and in some ways artificially) linked to LGB struggles.
The only concern I have is which group will be culturally picked to help next after transgenders. I really hope it is orphans, particularly never patented orphans, who's life outcomes are often similar to transsexuals (in the USA around 14% kill themselves, and less than one tenth of one percent complete college). They have no privilage but also no enemy that opposes them, so I am worried that they will never really have their moment in the sunThe same reason nobody talked about gay rights 20 years ago and 10 years later it was a hot issue.
It's called progress, and people openly discriminating against a group is only going to fan the flames.
Love Trump's hate.Shadow_jdct posted...OffDogs posted...
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A good portion of straight males are getting tired of always getting the bad end of the deal
I don't understand how these alt right loons can think being a straight male is somehow a bad deal. Maybe you just suck so much at life, your gender and sexual orientation can't compensate for it
Trying to remember what comedian you ripped off this "realization" from.
You're probably thinking of Louis CK
Yeah he did a bit but what he said is almost verbatim... The comedian complains about his situation and then states I guess I'm just mad I'm failing at life on easy mode.
It's all stupid because privilege is an individual thing not a race thing. For instance typical middle class white kid has an easier start than Detroit impoverished black kid but will Smith's kids are in God mode compared to both. I grew up in a blue collar house and that's how I started so it does get annoying seeing black scholarships and natives getting free tuition. But I also realize due to my dad working his ass off 70+ hours a week that I didn't have to go hungry like some kids. Granted we we're always expected to help out and pay for our own shit but that's less a con and more a well duh situation.the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, Back Blue
I will fight socialism til hell freezes over, then I will fight on the ice.Dirty repubs always need a scapegoatIf you conjure something in Vivec, and noones around to see you, do the Ordinators still kick your ass?OffDogs posted...It's all stupid because privilege is an individual thing not a race thing.
You're the one who brought race into that discussion though...if fox news and friends weren't attacking transgenders
everyone else wouldn't feel the need to say how much they have admired and supported transgender rights
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XB1:GamerClawdeen WiiU: GothicNightmareLegalizing gay marriage basically empowered the whole LBGTQHDISIDUISFJQE community"Another visitor! Stay a while! Stay forever!"republicans purposely politicized the issue by quickly pushing their bathroom laws, forcing dems to fight back, at which point repubs claimed that dems started it and were "trying to let pedophiles into bathrooms" even though the repubs were really the ones that changed the status quo. it was an intentional political move to use fear-mongering to strengthen republican hold in midwestern states.TaiIs82 posted...Just another Democrat fad, pushing a phony issue to start fights and divide us
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Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)NightMareBunny posted...9 or 10 years ago you wouldn't see or hear people screaming about transgender rights or that transgenders shouldn't exist...and if so you didn't hear about the roaring debate as often and as much as you do now in 2017
it seems like an extremely hot topic on the news and every website today
one side claiming transgenders are cropping up more and more and we have to accept that they are here while another side claims they are the super minority and numbers of there being thousands upon thousands of transgenders just in one state alone is overblown
Uhm, it's a distraction and you just contributed to it.
While they loot and sell us out to foreign interests, you can argue about whether its okay for a bridal shop to decline to sell clothes to lesbians and other hot topics.1: There is a significant political alliance between gay and transgender activists, within which transgender issues are secondary to gay issues.
2: Within the past 9-10 years, multiple high profile gay-rights causes and social acceptance concerns have been rendered moot: legal recognition of same sex marriage, the Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal, the selection of a Pope who clearly and effectively communicates a conciliatory tone about homosexual persons, the Boy Scouts repealing their ban on gay troops, and then on gay scoutmasters...
3: Gay activists now spend more energy on promoting and protecting transgender interests publicly.
4: Intersectionality theory becomes more popular and increases the power of transgender activists in liberal-dominated spaces outside the public sphere (academia, the media, the medical professions).
5: The Kardashian family.Do your own research!It mostly just has to do with the Casual Revolution of 2007. Modern era social media and the centralized internet began around then, so we live even moreso in these "episodic" moments of our lives where hot button topics move to the forefront due to the amount of hashtags, retweets, youtube vids, etc.
If you really look at most subcultures (political, social, entertainment of any sort), almost all of them saw their current era begin around 2007/2008.Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016Some elements of the transgender culture war isn't about fighting for equal rights like equal marriage, it's about creating a new status with new special rights and privileges that other people wouldn't get. The whole forcing transgender accommodations and other people have to deal with it.Avatars are frauds and bullies. The universe is a hologram. Buy gold, buy.NightMareBunny posted...NativitylnBIood posted...
Like most issues these days, it started with some serious discussion of real issues, now it's just a bunch of escalating shrieking going back and forth.
the worst thing to happen would be if a separate gender neutral bathroom was created
just how useful would that be in the long run?
About as useful as a family bathroom. You seen those? The ones literally no families actually use, but instead people not willing to wait to use their bathroom.
Seriously, every mall or movie theater I've been to, those have never been used as a family room, instead just a single person bathroom. They're worthless. I get why they were created but it was for such a small market that it never actually got used for its purpose. Just a 3rd bathroom for no other reason than being a 3rd bathroomlolAmericaClayGuida posted...NightMareBunny posted...
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Like most issues these days, it started with some serious discussion of real issues, now it's just a bunch of escalating shrieking going back and forth.
the worst thing to happen would be if a separate gender neutral bathroom was created
just how useful would that be in the long run?
About as useful as a family bathroom. You seen those? The ones literally no families actually use, but instead people not willing to wait to use their bathroom.
Seriously, every mall or movie theater I've been to, those have never been used as a family room, instead just a single person bathroom. They're worthless. I get why they were created but it was for such a small market that it never actually got used for its purpose. Just a 3rd bathroom for no other reason than being a 3rd bathroom
that's the same thing i think here....transgenders are such a small group that most cities and towns wouldn't see those bathrooms used all that much
most people on both sides need to realize it's rare to see many transgenders in any area
this isn't something that's to be normalized in the future because most of us will never see them and they as a minority group won't be getting any bigger
if they did end up getting bigger to the point where everyone sees them everyday i would think there's something wrongPSN: VV_Argost
XB1:GamerClawdeen WiiU: GothicNightmareThey were part of LGBT for a long time and now some LGB are talking about "disowning" them because they feel they make them look bad. It's sad.lowtides posted...They were part of LGBT for a long time and now some LGB are talking about "disowning" them because they feel they make them look bad. It's sad.
Why? It makes no sense trans isn't a sexual preference. Gay isthe right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, Back Blue
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They were part of LGBT for a long time and now some LGB are talking about "disowning" them because they feel they make them look bad. It's sad.
Why? It makes no sense trans isn't a sexual preference. Gay is
Precisely, transgenders have an entirely different agenda compared to LGB. LGB wants current rights to expand equally like same sex marriage. Transgenders want new rights for their status.Avatars are frauds and bullies. The universe is a hologram. Buy gold, buy.
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