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Thursday, August 17, 2017

The Sun faces investigation over 'Muslim Problem' article

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-Gavirulax- 8 hours ago#1
Jewish and Muslim organisations in Britain have issued a joint complaint to the press regulator over an Islamophobic article they likened to Nazi propaganda.

The groups argue The Sun column’s reference to the “Muslim Problem” resembles the Nazi references to the “The Jewish Problem” and sets a troubling precedent.

Written by the former political editor of the tabloid, the article features a tirade about Muslim communities and claims Britain is consumed by a “Muslim Problem”.

Trevor Kavanagh argues Islam constitutes the “one unspoken fear” which unites Britain and wider Europe but claims the phenomenon has been suppressed by political correctness. He says the problem began after former Prime Minister Tony Blair allowed what he describes as “mass migration”.

The article, which caused anger among social media users, prompted the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Tell Mama and Faith Matters to complain directly to the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso).

The organisations argue the phrase “Muslim Problem” shares direct parallels with “The Jewish Problem” – an expression used in Hitler's Nazi Germany which led to the mass murder of six million Jews.

“The printing of the phrase ‘The Muslim Problem’ – particularly with the capitalisation and italics for emphasis – in a national newspaper sets a dangerous precedent,” states the complaint. 

“And harks back to the use of the phrase ‘The Jewish Problem’ in the last century, to which the Nazis responded with ‘The Final Solution’ – the Holocaust.”

A representative for Ipso told The Independent they had received a total of 150 complaints about the piece.

“As you’ll appreciate, Ipso does not comment on any complaints while they are being assessed,” they said.

“However, I can confirm that we have had a total of 150 complaints about the piece to which you refer, mostly under Clause 12 (Discrimination) of the Editors’ Code of Practice.”

A spokesperson for the Board of Deputies said: “We were horrified to read this in The Sun today, and we feel that it warrants swift condemnation by Ipso, and a prompt retraction and an apology by The Sun. We will not tolerate indiscriminate attacks in the media on any faith community.”

A representative for Tell Mama and Faith Matters said: “We stand united with the Jewish community in our condemnation of this outrageous article. Newspapers must take responsibility for peddling hate.”

The Sun’s article has been branded “disgusting” on Twitter, with critics urging people to issue formal complaints to the paper.

“This country doesn't have a 'Muslim problem', it has a Murdoch problem. Today's piece by Trevor Kavanagh in The Sun has to be the end of it,” said one user, Maria Crawford.


Please note that this article has been shortened.

Sourcehttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sun-muslim-problem-investigation-jewish-islamic-ipso-trevor-kavanagh-nazi-propaganda-tabloid-news-uk-a7894231.html
Gavirulax
Ipso sparked anger when it announced Mr Kavanagh would be joining its board at the end of 2015. He played a critical role in the tabloid’s infamous accusations that Liverpool fans had urinated on rescuers and pick-pocketed dead victims during the 1989 disaster.

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SomeLikeItHoth 7 hours ago#3
I'll have to check this article out when I'm not busy but can you give a tldr version of it?
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Bio1590 7 hours ago#4
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
I'll have to check this article out when I'm not busy but can you give a tldr version of it?

We already know what your opinion is
-Gavirulax- 7 hours ago#5
Bio1590 posted...
We already know what your opinion is


...we do?

I honestly have no idea what his views on religion is.
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ehhwhatever 7 hours ago#6
I googled muslim problem and got legitimate responses and not just the UK. So according to google "the muslim problem" is searched.
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Esrac 7 hours ago#7
Is this the one about Muslim rape gangs preying on young British girls that the MP had to resign from her post because she pointed out that the rape gangs are typically of middle eastern/Asian ethnicity and a fear of being called racist kept people in charge from acting?
Hicks233 7 hours ago#8
As long as they keep forming grooming and rape gangs, they're a problem, as long as there are elements calling for Sharia Law to be instated - they're a problem. All the oyy-veying in the world isn't going to change that so they can f*** off with their guilt trip attempts. They weren't forced to come to the UK. They can either obey the law or f*** off somewhere else.
-Gavirulax- 7 hours ago#9
ehhwhatever posted...
I googled muslim problem and got legitimate responses and not just the UK. So according to google "the muslim problem" is searched.


As politically correct as I'll sound here....it's wrong, very wrong.

There is an Islamic problem, as Islam is horrible. The people who follow it....(especially with the historicity surrounding said "problems") are not a problem (and the fact that google shows people search for it....well people are stupid, no news here).
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-Gavirulax- 7 hours ago#10
Esrac posted...
Is this the one about Muslim rape gangs preying on young British girls that the MP had to resign from her post because she pointed out that the rape gangs are typically of middle eastern/Asian ethnicity and a fear of being called racist kept people in charge from acting?


Rochdale (or however it's spelled).
There were a few people in that who had similar experiences...
That is actual dangerous political correctness.

Hicks233 posted...
They weren't forced to come to the UK. They can either obey the law or f*** off somewhere else.


I don't really agree with the first sentence (although they need to own it).
But this, I agree with because (for example) acid attacks....they were f***ing imported....and it's no great shock where it came from.
Gavirulax
Esrac 7 hours ago#11
-Gavirulax- posted...
Esrac posted...
Is this the one about Muslim rape gangs preying on young British girls that the MP had to resign from her post because she pointed out that the rape gangs are typically of middle eastern/Asian ethnicity and a fear of being called racist kept people in charge from acting?


Rochdale (or however it's spelled).
There were a few people in that who had similar experiences...
That is actual dangerous political correctness.

Hicks233 posted...
They weren't forced to come to the UK. They can either obey the law or f*** off somewhere else.


I don't really agree with the first sentence (although they need to own it).
But this, I agree with because (for example) acid attacks....they were f***ing imported....and it's no great shock where it came from.


I was thinking of Rotherham, but I'd heard something similar happened in Rochdale too. Makes me wonder how many more middle eastern rape gangs are given free reign in Britain because people in charge are too afraid on being called racist or giving ammunition to anti-immigration conservatives and nationalists to act. I guess they'd rather let little british girls get raped.
Bio1590 7 hours ago#12
-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
We already know what your opinion is


...we do?

I honestly have no idea what his views on religion is.

It's less his views on religion and more his hoping/advocating for all Muslims to die.
Funkydog  question him ALWAYS7 hours ago#13
-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
We already know what your opinion is


...we do?

I honestly have no idea what his views on religion is.

It's Hoth. So whatever will annoy people most.
-Gavirulax- 7 hours ago#14
Bio1590 posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
We already know what your opinion is


...we do?

I honestly have no idea what his views on religion is.

It's less his views on religion and more his hoping/advocating for all Muslims to die.


....well that is obviously stupid if true.
Know plenty of good Muslims - the problem I have is the religion, not the people.

Esrac posted...
I was thinking of Rotherham, but I'd heard something similar happened in Rochdale too. Makes me wonder how many more middle eastern rape gangs are given free reign in Britain because people in charge are too afraid on being called racist or giving ammunition to anti-immigration conservatives and nationalists to act. I guess they'd rather let little british girls get raped.


Gang rape is absolutely a problem with Islamic communities and I've long advocated that they need to name them and stop treating women (and boys in some cases) as lesser people, which they're taught (as I was) their entire Islamic life.
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