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Antifar 1 day ago#1
No, a different one.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/baltimore-police-allegedly-switch-body-cams-off-drug/story?id=48976948
Less than two weeks after Baltimore’s public defender’s office released footage from police body cameras that appeared to show an officer planting drug evidence, the office has now released a series of videos from a different drug bust that “appears to depict multiple officers working together to manufacture evidence.”

The series of videos, which show the body camera footage of multiple officers who were working at the scene of the drug bust, involves a completely different set of officers than the incident that took place earlier this month, according to a statement from the office of the Baltimore Public Defender.

In the footage released today, at least seven officers are seen thoroughly searching a car, and then turning their cameras off and back on, according to the Public Defender's Office. One of the officers is seem placing something in the vehicle, then all of the officers step back. Later in the footage, the officers discover drugs in the car.

Prosecutors have dropped all charges against the driver who was arrested in the bust.

“The lack of transparency to the public and refusal to disclose to the defense both prejudices defendants and violates the prosecutor’s constitutional obligations,” Debbie Katz Levi, head of the Baltimore City Public Defender Special Litigation Section, said in a statement. “Hundreds of individuals are awaiting trial on cases that rely on these officers, and hundreds more have likely been convicted based on their testimony.”

The bodycam footage released in July allegedly shows a Baltimore police officer tampering with evidence by planting what appeared to be drugs in a yard filled with debris, according to the Office of the Public Defender.

That video was taken on January 24 when three police officers were searching for drugs in a yard filled with debris, Baltimore Deputy Police Commissioner Jason Johnson said in a press release at the time, and it led to prosecutors dismissing the case.

The Baltimore City State's Attorney's Office said that it had referred two of the at least seven officers in the video to its internal affairs.

"We had questions concerning their body worn camera videos. Before we blanketly characterize their behavior as deceptive and/or a credibility issue, we referred the matter to the internal affairs division of the Baltimore Police Department. Pending the Baltimore Police Department’s investigation pertaining to the officer’s conduct, the Baltimore City State's Attorney’s Office is requesting postponements on all cases involving the officers. We look forward to continuing the advancement and pursuit of justice for all," the State Attorney's Office said of the release.

On Friday, State Attorney Marilyn Mosby said that 34 cases of felony drug and gun charges that relied on testimony of the officers that were implicated in the video that was released in July had been dismissed.

Mosby said 12 cases were moving forward on the strength of independent evidence that corroborated the busts, and that 77 more cases are currently under review.

In a statement following today's release, the Baltimore Police Department said it is working closely with Office of the Public Defender and the State's Attorney's Office to investigate the incident depicted in the video.
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Jesus. 

Something really needs to be done about the police. They need more accountability. Way more accountability. Makes me sick how much they get away with.
Antifar 1 day ago#3
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Jesus. 

Something really needs to be done about the police. They need more accountability. Way more accountability. Makes me sick how much they get away with.

Yeah. Here in my city, there's a proposal/campaign I've been working with that would create an accountability board that actually has teeth as compared to the current system. Currently, like 2% of civilian complaints about police result in some sort of discipline, whereas in nearby cities with boards like the one being proposed, it's closer to 30%.
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voldothegr8 1 day ago#4
Baltimore about to riot again, the city really needs to do something about it these dumbasses who don't even bother turning cameras off before planting evidence.
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Antifar posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Jesus. 

Something really needs to be done about the police. They need more accountability. Way more accountability. Makes me sick how much they get away with.

Yeah. Here in my city, there's a proposal/campaign I've been working with that would create an accountability board that actually has teeth as compared to the current system. Currently, like 2% of civilian complaints about police result in some sort of discipline, whereas in nearby cities with boards like the one being proposed, it's closer to 30%.


I was assaulted last week and the officer told me to tell him what happened as he had a lot of better s*** to do that night. Would this board help with a situation like that?

Note that I've worked somewhat closely with BCPD in the past and recognize they're not all like this.
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Antifar 1 day ago#6
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I was assaulted last week and the officer told me to tell him what happened as he had a lot of better s*** to do that night. Would this board help with a situation like that?

As I understand it, it would review all civilian complaints about police, not just use of force. So, I don't see why not.
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Bump, because I just saw this video.

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is
TheVipaGTS 23 hours ago#8
People will defend this for no reason (well, racist reasons), the courts will protect them and nothing will ever change. Thank goodness that video was found and charges were dropped...if not that suspect would have been f***ed.
Gojak_v3 23 hours ago#9
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video.

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.
WizardPowers 23 hours ago#10
Just doing what they're trained to do
TheVipaGTS posted...
People will defend this for no reason (well, racist reasons), the courts will protect them and nothing will ever change. Thank goodness that video was found and charges were dropped...if not that suspect would have been f***ed.


Who would defend this? Cops who plant evidence should go to prison for a very long time.
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TheVipaGTS 23 hours ago#12
DifferentialEquation posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
People will defend this for no reason (well, racist reasons), the courts will protect them and nothing will ever change. Thank goodness that video was found and charges were dropped...if not that suspect would have been f***ed.


Who would defend this? Cops who plant evidence should go to prison for a very long time.

And yet they don't. Because there are people who sweep things like this under the rug and always say s*** like "this barely happens! not worth our time, stop trying to push this narrative"....Its not a narrative. Its a real f***in issue that ruins lives.
gatorsPENSbucs 23 hours ago#13
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.
Ammonitida 23 hours ago#14
Gojak_v3 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video.

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.
ChainedRedone 23 hours ago#15
Gojak_v3 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.

Society should just move past this whole police corruption thing. It's about time we focus on the important issues, like butterflies being pretty and dogs being adorable.
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TheVipaGTS 23 hours ago#17
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.

Maybe because they're supposed to be good? You won't see constant news articles say "Honda builds car, it works perfectly"...but you will see several news articles that says "Honda makes car with faulty brakes, causes several accidents"....

we EXPECT the police to do the right thing. We don't need news stories telling us they are doing the right thing. When you get to that point, where you have to basically say "look at us guys, we're doing good" the issue with the bad is already too far gone. The bad is reported more because people want it to stop. A feel good story here or there is fine but do you expect the news to just constantly report on "cops make a traffic stop....issue ticket...all went perfectly fine"...that's not news..."cops make a traffic stop, get caught planting evidence" is news..
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Ammonitida 23 hours ago#18
ChainedRedone posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.


Yep. You know how many cops the BPD employs and how many recordings are taken each day during such arrests?
Gojak_v3 23 hours ago#19
ChainedRedone posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.


lmao indeed you are. Thousands of police videos done every day across the US and they found two. Again, I'm all for condemning the behavior, but stop trying to spin.
voldothegr8 23 hours ago#20
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.

One bad apple spoils the bunch. In this case there are thousands of bad apples and that s*** adds up. Besides, that's how life works. Do a killer job at work and most people get an attaboy at best. f*** up and most people get s*** rained upon them. Plus covering up a bad cops s*** with a bunch of feel good stories isn't doing anyone any favors. The more it's exposed the more we can work towards fixing it.
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gatorsPENSbucs 23 hours ago#21
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Society should just move past this whole police corruption thing. It's about time we focus on the important issues, like butterflies being pretty and dogs being adorable.

Ok.

We should stop brainwashing people into thinking every single cop is crooked and every single white person in this country is racist. There's way too many dumb people that just eat this s*** up and it's continuing to make this country worse and worse.
KILBOTz 23 hours ago#22
It's gotten to the point if it was a suspects word vs. Cops word and no video of their interaction I would believe the suspect.

Every cop should be forced to have a camera on them, turned on at all times while on duty. They have proven themselves untrustworthy time after time.
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.


I'd say the real shame is someone having their life potentially ruined by some dirtbag cops who should be in jail over this, but that's just me
Antifar 23 hours ago#24
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story

Every story about some criminal being arrested, or a drug bust, is a "good cop" story. But as a general rule, "person does job" is not newsworthy.
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ChainedRedone 23 hours ago#25
Ammonitida posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Gojak_v3 posted... 
The Great Muta 22 posted... 
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.


Yep. You know how many cops the BPD employs and how many recordings are taken each day during such arrests?


And they've already dismissed over 30 felony cases because of this. So rare you have to dismiss dozens of felonies. The delusion...
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hockeybub89 23 hours ago#27
TheVipaGTS posted...

Maybe because they're supposed to be good? You won't see constant news articles say "Honda builds car, it works perfectly"...but you will see several news articles that says "Honda makes car with faulty brakes, causes several accidents"....

voldothegr8 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I wish the media cared about good cops so we could get dozens upon dozens of good stories with the rare bad story. But all we hear about is the bad so everyone thinks it's happening non stop everywhere. That's the real shame in this.

One bad apple spoils the bunch. In this case there are thousands of bad apples and that s*** adds up. Besides, that's how life works. Do a killer job at work and most people get an attaboy at best. f*** up and most people get s*** rained upon them. Plus covering up a bad cops s*** with a bunch of feel good stories isn't doing anyone any favors. The more it's exposed the more we can work towards fixing it.

Antifar posted...
Every story about some criminal being arrested, or a drug bust, is a "good cop" story. But as a general rule, "person does job" is not newsworthy.
Ammonitida 23 hours ago#28
ChainedRedone posted...
Ammonitida posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Gojak_v3 posted... 
The Great Muta 22 posted... 
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.


Yep. You know how many cops the BPD employs and how many recordings are taken each day during such arrests?


And they've already dismissed over 30 felony cases because of this. So rare you have to dismiss dozens of felonies. The delusion...


The cases were linked to the same cops in the video. Thousands of cases were dismissed in a crime lab DNA scandal not too long ago, all because of one woman.

Read about it here.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/annie-dookhan-crime-lab-chemist-falsified-evidence/
ChainedRedone 23 hours ago#29
That doesn't prove your point. Multiple police officers planting evidence in the course of two weeks is frequent. But I guess you have to stick to your blue lives matter schtick.
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Laserion 23 hours ago#30
People need to start using their own cameras in cars, too.
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Ammonitida 23 hours ago#31
Looking at the video I'm not convinced anything was planted either.
Axiom 23 hours ago#32
Just cops being cops
Ammonitida posted...
Looking at the video I'm not convinced anything was planted either.


Good thing your opinion isn't based in reality.
gatorsPENSbucs 23 hours ago#34
Antifar posted...
But as a general rule, "person does job" is not newsworthy.

Well that's just not true at all. 

Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.
Ammonitida 23 hours ago#35
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Looking at the video I'm not convinced anything was planted either.


Good thing your opinion isn't based in reality.


The frames are at 35 seconds in. Looks ambiguous to me.
Twin3Turbo 23 hours ago#36
The thing that gets me here is

1. This at a minimum gets you wondering just how many cases just like this have been happening since, well, the history of this country.

2. Without the video, everyone here, would be congratulating the cops with attaboys for cleaning up the streets, but it would be far from the case in reality. Especially the usual cop defenders, they would be doing what they pretty much are doing already, which is saying that issues of police misconduct are not a huge problem.
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.


That's not true at all
Twin3Turbo 23 hours ago#38
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Antifar posted...
But as a general rule, "person does job" is not newsworthy.

Well that's just not true at all. 

Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.

Lol, cops are literally worshiped in this country and they know it. The badge gives them immediate respect among the majority.
Lightsasori 23 hours ago#39
This is disgusting, I really hope they get more than just a slap on the wrist.
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cjsdowg 23 hours ago#40
And this is same police force that people have been defending on this cite.
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TheVipaGTS 23 hours ago#41
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.

and they also get criticism when the wrong things they do surface....its just that there are more Cops planting evidence and doing wrong than there are firefighters intentionally setting fires to put them out....if the latter was true you better believe it would be on the news, and rightfully so.
Axiom 23 hours ago#42
TheVipaGTS posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.

and they also get criticism when the wrong things they do surface....its just that there are more Cops planting evidence and doing wrong than there are firefighters intentionally setting fires to put them out....if the latter was true you better believe it would be on the news, and rightfully so.

This. I also happen to see plenty of feel good stories about cops helping out random people so the whole "Cops only have negative stories published about them" is utter bulls***
gatorsPENSbucs 22 hours ago#43
TheVipaGTS posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.

and they also get criticism when the wrong things they do surface....its just that there are more Cops planting evidence and doing wrong than there are firefighters intentionally setting fires to put them out....if the latter was true you better believe it would be on the news, and rightfully so.

That's cool and all but I think you missed the part that I quoted from someone else. 

Everyone gets praised for doing their job except cops. So the person saying "doing your job isn't newsworthy" is just flat out wrong.
gatorsPENSbucs 22 hours ago#44
Axiom posted...
This. I also happen to see plenty of feel good stories about cops helping out random people so the whole "Cops only have negative stories published about them" is utter bulls***

Cool. 

Find stories from July and let me know how many good stories you found and how many bad stories you found. Guarantee it's going to be a huge huge difference.
TheVipaGTS 22 hours ago#45
But cops do get praise. Someone just posted an article yesterday about cops who went to a little girls house and looked for monsters after she called saying she was scared. That was a feel good story. You see those stories all the time. What we're trying to explain to you is that covering up the bad with good stories and constantly reporting "good" cop stories is pointless unless its noteworthy..."cop does job. responds to car accident. Leaves" isn't noteworthy..."cop buys baby seat for mother struggling to buy food" is..and you see those stories all the time.

The bad still needs to be reported and trying to hide the bad under feel good stories does nothing to stop the bad. it only helps it continue.

On the flip side, "Firefighter puts out fire in abandoned building" is usually only news because of the fact that there was a fire...."firefighter saves family from burning building" is much different and an instance where the firefighter would get praise
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cjsdowg 22 hours ago#46
gatorsPENSbucs posted...

That's cool and all but I think you missed the part that I quoted from someone else.

Everyone gets praised for doing their job except cops. So the person saying "doing your job isn't newsworthy" is just flat out wrong.


Got get praised all the f***ing time. Hell if you say anything close to negative about the police you are attacked. Where is the police victim complex coming from.
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Axiom 22 hours ago#47
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Axiom posted...
This. I also happen to see plenty of feel good stories about cops helping out random people so the whole "Cops only have negative stories published about them" is utter bulls***

Cool. 

Find stories from July and let me know how many good stories you found and how many bad stories you found. Guarantee it's going to be a huge huge difference.

If there are more stories of cops being criminals than there are good ones don't you think that's an indication there's a huge problem with cops and not some stupid conspiracy theory of cops being purposely made to look bad

These cases aren't made up. I mean f*** just the other day someone posted a video of Tennessee sheriffs torturing a bound kid with tasers. Just how many incidents need to occur until people like you say "OK the cops are the problem not everyone else"
ChainedRedone 11 hours ago#48
Gojak_v3 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bump, because I just saw this video. 

At least now there's some video to show how common this stuff actually is


lol the video does nothing to show how common it is. Do you have any idea how many police videos are recorded a day? Seriously I'm all for condemning behavior like this, but this a narrative does not make.


The fact it was shown to be done by several police officers within a couple of weeks is all some big coincidence? Jfc some people are delusional.


lmao indeed you are. Thousands of police videos done every day across the US and they found two. Again, I'm all for condemning the behavior, but stop trying to spin.


We're talking about Baltimore here. These videos are absolutely a testament to the frequency it occurs among the Baltimore Police. I'm sure you knew that. But wanted to dilute it to make a blue lives matter point. Hell, when you look at it that way it's just a molecular amount compared to the entire universe! Why stop at the country?
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cjsdowg 5 hours ago#49
Gojak_v3 posted...

lmao indeed you are. Thousands of police videos done every day across the US and they found two. Again, I'm all for condemning the behavior, but stop trying to spin.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seven-baltimore-cops-indicted-federal-racketeering-n727716
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Antifar posted...
But as a general rule, "person does job" is not newsworthy.

Well that's just not true at all. 

Firefighters, military, all types of stuff get praised on a daily basis for just doing their job. Seems like cops are the only ones excused from that.


fires and s*** break out literally every day and you only generally hear about the larger ones, or if people die.

You never hear about anything the military does. A great deal of work military folks are sent on is disaster relief (as in natural disasters) but you never f***ing see the media reporting on that s***. Only the latest botched operation. Even if they report on the disaster, they never report on what the military is doing to assist with it.
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    TheFuzz3451 5 hours ago#51
    OpheliaAdenade posted...
    Jesus. 

    Something really needs to be done about the police. They need more accountability. Way more accountability. Makes me sick how much they get away with.


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    MrMallard 4 hours ago#52
    Remember the absolute s***-storm of Blue Lives Matters posting and other general cop nut-hugging when people were calling for police body-cams, saying crap like people wanted to inconvenience the police so they couldn't do their job properly and being outright offended that a powerful group with the power to send people to jail would be characterised as incompetent and in need of monitoring?

    Well, look at what's happening now. Police incompetency and corruption is coming out of the woodwork because these pieces of s*** are intentionally sabotaging their bodycams and committing crimes, and other bodycams as well as other video sources are showing these breaches of power for what they are.
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