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Thursday, August 17, 2017

Should we tear down mount rushmore due to racism?

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J E S U S 7 hours ago#1
Sada_Pop 7 hours ago#2
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People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism.
eston 7 hours ago#3
DreadedWave 7 hours ago#4
Mr. Gorbachev tear down this mountain.
Were_Wyrm  awake to mic7 hours ago#5
yes
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boxington 7 hours ago#6
Turbam 7 hours ago#7
I'll see you guys there in half an hour!
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ehhwhatever 7 hours ago#8
yes they had citizens kill the buffalo to near extinction because the native americans survived off them and then they killed native americans for not turning themselves in to the reservations. Jefferson did make slave children make nails.
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chill02 7 hours ago#9
The Lakota tribe wouldn't mind
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FrisbeeDude  attack always7 hours ago#10
White people are MAD AF that statues created to spite black people during the civil rights era are being removed...why is that?
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Ivynn 7 hours ago#11
Turbam posted...
I'll see you guys there in half an hour!


I'll bring the refreshments!
Chad-Henne 7 hours ago#12
Zikten 6 hours ago#13
How will you tear down a mountain?
There have been campaigns to tear that s*** down for literally decades.
Zikten 6 hours ago#15
I think you mean just deface it or blow off the chunks with the statues. You can't tear down a mountain
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jayj420 6 hours ago#16
ChromaticAngel posted...
There have been campaigns to tear that s*** down for literally decades.

Centuries even if you include the natives original protests to the occupation of the land
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Zikten posted...
You can't tear down a mountain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaintop_removal_mining
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jayj420 6 hours ago#18
Zikten posted...
I think you mean just deface it or blow off the chunks with the statues. You can't tear down a mountain

We can make it look like they were all bleeding badly from a face lift so everyone who visits will just say no!
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RickyTheBAWSE 6 hours ago#19
no culture who were on the receiving end of these men's bloody conquest should even be expected to feel that much respect for these men. if they do respect them, that's fine. but nobody should expect it for obvious reasons. unless you're one of those naive and oblivious "colorblind" types who think other groups should disregard their own culture so you can feel better about whatever yours is.

with that said, a line should be drawn somewhere. I just haven't decided where for me personally, yet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_Memorial
I wonder when this is supposed to be done...?
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Zikten 6 hours ago#20
That doesn't remove the entire mountain and besides why go to all that extra work? The statues don't take up the entire mountain just part of it
Zikten posted...
That doesn't remove the entire mountain and besides why go to all that extra work? The statues don't take up the entire mountain just part of it

TJs head was already blown right off the mountain once, anyway.
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NibeIungsnarf 6 hours ago#22
Zikten having a semi-meltdown over semantics again.


"He said tear down a mountain (even though he was OBVIOUSLY referring to the monument on the mountain, not the mountain itself, but that would be intepretation instead of literalism AND WE CAN'T VERY WELL HAVE THAT, CAN WE!?!?!), and you can't literally do that, so I must make everyone continuously aware of that fact!"



Even though I'm pretty sure with enough effort and cash you actually could.
DrizztLink 6 hours ago#23
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Even though I'm pretty sure with enough effort and cash you actually could.

Effrafax of Wug was a sciento-magician who bet his life that he could make an entire mountain invisible within a year. Having wasted most of the period of time failing to create a cloaking device, he hired a company to simply remove the mountain, though this course of action lost him the bet and his life. This was all due in part to the sudden and rather suspicious presence of an extra moon, and in addition, the fact that you could never touch anything when you walked near the supposed invisible mountain.
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_Memorial

Privately funded, on private property.
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ZombiePelican 6 hours ago#25
Questionmarktarius posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_Memorial

Privately funded, on private property.

The statue of P. G. T. Beauregard was on private land in NOLA yet somehow local politicians still had it taken down
ZombiePelican posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_Memorial

Privately funded, on private property.

The statue of P. G. T. Beauregard was on private land in NOLA yet somehow local politicians still had it taken down

http://wgno.com/2017/05/08/monumental-task-committee-says-city-doesnt-own-beauregard-statue/
“City Park, as an incorporated association of the Lieutenant Governor’s Office, owns the land that the monument is on, and owns the monument,” Marksbury said.

So, while technically "private" property, Beauregard's plot of dirt was still owned by a public entity.
Zikten 2 hours ago#27
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zikten having a semi-meltdown over semantics again.


"He said tear down a mountain (even though he was OBVIOUSLY referring to the monument on the mountain, not the mountain itself, but that would be intepretation instead of literalism AND WE CAN'T VERY WELL HAVE THAT, CAN WE!?!?!), and you can't literally do that, so I must make everyone continuously aware of that fact!"



Even though I'm pretty sure with enough effort and cash you actually could.

Why do I care what someone who thinks I have no humanity thinks?
RickyTheBAWSE 2 hours ago#28
Zikten posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zikten having a semi-meltdown over semantics again. 


"He said tear down a mountain (even though he was OBVIOUSLY referring to the monument on the mountain, not the mountain itself, but that would be intepretation instead of literalism AND WE CAN'T VERY WELL HAVE THAT, CAN WE!?!?!), and you can't literally do that, so I must make everyone continuously aware of that fact!" 



Even though I'm pretty sure with enough effort and cash you actually could.

Why do I care what someone who thinks I have no humanity thinks?


great question. what do you think of groups who asked this question before you?
Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
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metralo 2 hours ago#29
we need to tear down any monument of white people tbh. they're all filled with genocide and hate. 

ESPECIALLY mount rushmore.
RickyTheBAWSE 2 hours ago#30
metralo posted...
we need to tear down any monument of white people tbh. they're all filled with genocide and hate. 

ESPECIALLY mount rushmore.


I'm a fan of the Rocky Balboa statue, tbh.

I gotta get a pic next to it if I ever take that trip.
Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
BAWSE!
Bad_Mojo 1 hour ago#31
FrisbeeDude posted...
White people are MAD AF that statues created to spite black people during the civil rights era are being removed...why is that?


I don't have any issues taking the statues down. What I have an issue with is these people that do break them down thinking they shouldn't get into trouble with the law when they clearly broke the law by destroying property.
Bad_Mojo posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
White people are MAD AF that statues created to spite black people during the civil rights era are being removed...why is that?


I don't have any issues taking the statues down. What I have an issue with is these people that do break them down thinking they shouldn't get into trouble with the law when they clearly broke the law by destroying property.


they broke the law, and it was wrong. but if this is really your biggest gripe about the entire chain of events that led up to it, then...
Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
BAWSE!
Bad_Mojo 1 hour ago#33
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
they broke the law, and it was wrong. but if this is really your biggest gripe about the entire chain of events that led up to it, then...


Funny, I didn't say anything like that at all. All I said is I don't want to hear people cry when they get arrested and charged with a crime they committed. Just like I don't want to hear some white guy cry because they got charged with a crime they committed during all this crazy s***. 

Don't ever put words in my mouth again, please.
Bad_Mojo posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
they broke the law, and it was wrong. but if this is really your biggest gripe about the entire chain of events that led up to it, then...


Funny, I didn't say anything like that at all. All I said is I don't want to hear people cry when they get arrested and charged with a crime they committed. Just like I don't want to hear some white guy cry because they got charged with a crime they committed during all this crazy s***. 

Don't ever put words in my mouth again, please.


you chose that moment to go ahead and throw that in. I'm pretty sure nobody even disagrees with something that should go without saying. just another "two wrongs don't make a right" type of response, lol.

you can be defensive. I just thought it was funny.
Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story!
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Zikten posted...
I think you mean just deface it or blow off the chunks with the statues. You can't tear down a mountain

Lol.
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