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- So everyone on my facebook is cheering because these Nazi's are getting fired.
I guess people on twitter are going out of their way to ID them and get their employers to fire them.
And like, I get it but at the same time I'm thinking "Is taking away crazy Nazi's jobs really the smart move"? Like, I think this is going to get way worse now. |
imagine all the angry jobless nazis with more time on their hands. they start plotting in secret bases on how to get back at liberal america, and then it becomes ff7 all over again
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Why does everyone keep putting "Nazi's"?
It's literally just Nazis. |
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Why does everyone keep putting "Nazi's"? Hmm, I don't know why I did that tbqh. |
And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker.
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Bio1590 posted...
Why does everyone keep putting "Nazi's"? f***ing THANK YOU :P I keep saying this and I've already made a topic about it and people keep f***ing up
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Mernardi posted...
Monday posted...And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker. TheVipaGTS posted... *Waving around Swastika flags, wearing clothing with Hitler quotes, doing the Nazi salute*.."just some guys who told racist jokes one time they really didn't mean it they have black friends!"....lol ok... Ah, OP meant the protesters. I thought he was referring to random people. As for that, I feel bad for the guys losing their jobs. That's all. |
well, I'm just saying I don't think taking away a crazy nazis only reason to even sort of continue to live within societal norms is really a victory because it just gives them more time to stew and possibly move on to full on bonafide terrorism.
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Monday posted...
And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker. Uhhh, how is that not worthy of termination? Racism has no place in the workplace even in jest. I'd fire anyone that made a racist joke.
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Generally I don't agree with firing people because of social media outrage or them having unpopular views, but this situation is making me rethink it.
Usually, I'm like, as long as their job isn't one where they have some sort of real power, like an officer, someone in charge of hiring, someone in politics, etc, then whatever. Firing a secretary for being racist won't solve anything. But in this case, these guys seem to have pretty extreme views, and I can't help but think some of them probably are in positions of some power. I don't know. I guess it's up to the employer and if they end up maybe looking into their work history for discriminatory actions of some sort
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
well, I'm just saying I don't think taking away a crazy nazis only reason to even sort of continue to live within societal norms is really a victory because it just gives them more time to stew and possibly move on to full on bonafide terrorism. Maybe they'll learn to not be s***head Nazis instead.
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Mernardi posted...
I don't feel bad for Nazis tbh *sigh* that's not what I'm f***ing saying. i'm saying that this kind of behavior is only going to make them more dangerous and isn't the type of thing that should be considered a "victory". this isn't a "they didn't deserve to be fired", this is a "I'm scared of what crazy s*** these crazy people will do now that they are fired" situation. |
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As for that, I feel bad for the guys losing their jobs. That's all. I don't. Maybe they shouldn't have gone out in public and acted like a Nazi. Consequences for their actions are deserved. |
Monday posted...
And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker. They're using pictures from that whole event yesterday where they were dressed in Swastikas, waving flags with them, using Nazi chants, and the Hitler solute. Pretty sure they all knew it wasn't a game too
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Monday posted...And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker. lol this |
Huh, I found some people who are identifying the guys and getting them fired.
How about that. |
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BlackHorse6969 posted...imagine all the angry jobless nazis with more time on their hands. they start plotting in secret bases on how to get back at liberal america, and then it becomes ff7 all over again So Trump making anime real?
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I can't blame any company for firing them, the problem is that unfortunately some of these people have kids that are going to suffer as a result. Also, I'd rather have them at least earn a check by being useful to someone than sucking up unemployment or other benefits.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...well, I'm just saying I don't think taking away a crazy nazis only reason to even sort of continue to live within societal norms is really a victory because it just gives them more time to stew and possibly move on to full on bonafide terrorism.
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I can't blame any company for firing them, the problem is that unfortunately some of these people have kids that are going to suffer as a result. Also, I'd rather have them at least earn a check by being useful to someone than sucking up unemployment or other benefits. Their kids should be taken away. |
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for all of the s*** ce always gives about how terrorists become terrorists because the USA went in and destroyed their livelihood, they completely miss the fact that the exact same s*** can happen in their own damn country.
and the greatest bit is that when a group of these wackos do go off the deep end, youre just going to act like you never could have possibly seen it coming. never. f***ing. change. |
Pretty sad that this is what society has devolved into.
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Darmik posted...
So how many people would willingly hire Nazi's in their workplace? Anyone? How many people would be comfortable working with Nazi's? I'd hire them to do the lowest job on the totem pole and to have to directly answer to only minorities. But seriously, no, f*** them.
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Pretty sad that this is what society has devolved into. Does it matter to you what job they currently have? Like, if one of those marchers was a police officer, would it matter?
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Darmik posted...
So how many people would willingly hire Nazi's in their workplace? Anyone? How many people would be comfortable working with Nazi's? Seriously. I work in a client-facing industry. Do you think any of my partners would send a Neo-Nazi to deal with our clients? That's not even getting into how the coworkers would react.
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I feel sorry for their families and kids, and the amount of them that are going to lose their jobs worries me. Most of these guys probably own a lot of firearms and could do some REALLY stupid s***.
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...I feel sorry for their families and kids, and the amount of them that are going to lose their jobs worries me. Most of these guys probably own a lot of firearms and could do some REALLY stupid s***. Okay, but if they are like me (not a nazi, just a gun lover) then they already have 10,000 rounds
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- So everyone on my facebook is cheering because these Nazi's are getting fired.
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- So everyone on my facebook is cheering because these Nazi's are getting fired.
Yeah. I feel like making the lives of these lunatics less productive and more embittered is going to make violence from them more likely.
Also what kind of f***ing shifty a****** wastes their time trying to get a person they have never even met fired and brags about it online?I'm Mary Poppins y'all.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gifI think OP makes a good point here. It's not like these nazis are getting locked up. They're just going to become even more isolated.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgIn mean, the TC is correct in that taking away a steady income and employment from someone who is already angry enough with his life to attend a supremacy rally is probably not going to help the situation. However, at the same time, it's not going to help those businesses if they start getting boycotted for employing neo-Nazis.- The AdmiralHalo_Forever posted...Twinmold posted...
Sheesh, I'm so disappointed that my favorite video game forum has been taken over by angry neckbeards and Nazi sympathizers.
This. I've been reading this place since 2002, but this is the worst I've seen it in that time.
I think it's just a few posters flooding the board with Alts^_^pinky0926 posted...I think OP makes a good point here. It's not like these nazis are getting locked up. They're just going to become even more isolated.
Better than getting sent to concentration camps and gassed."Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377)I think it's just a few posters flooding the board with Alts
I wish that were true, but it's not. The Republican party takes these people in, gives them a voice, and tells them that their complaints are just and true.Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twainpinky0926 posted...I think OP makes a good point here. It's not like these nazis are getting locked up. They're just going to become even more isolated.
Isolated is easier to deal with than systematic banding.
I mean, it's probably a good thing this group didn't have the same sensibility of those back in the day in the KKK. Even back then they knew it would be wise to keep their identities hidden.=E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])]COVxy posted...pinky0926 posted...
I think OP makes a good point here. It's not like these nazis are getting locked up. They're just going to become even more isolated.
Isolated is easier to deal with than systematic banding.
I mean, it's probably a good thing this group didn't have the same sensibility of those back in the day in the KKK. Even back then they knew it would be wise to keep their identities hidden.
I dunno, I feel like the internet has created a whole new cultural problem where you can seek out an entire coven of people just as messed up as you are you without even leaving your basement.
I say this with complete awareness of the irony.CE's Resident Scotsman.
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pinky0926 posted...
I think OP makes a good point here. It's not like these nazis are getting locked up. They're just going to become even more isolated.
Isolated is easier to deal with than systematic banding.
I mean, it's probably a good thing this group didn't have the same sensibility of those back in the day in the KKK. Even back then they knew it would be wise to keep their identities hidden.
I dunno, I feel like the internet has created a whole new cultural problem where you can seek out an entire coven of people just as messed up as you are you without even leaving your basement.
I say this with complete awareness of the irony.
While that may very well be true, how would they afford to take action with income? It's going to be very difficult for them to get jobs again."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Asherlee10 posted...While that may very well be true, how would they afford to take action with income? It's going to be very difficult for them to get jobs again.
Hell maybe they'll develop some empathy for people on the breadline and in welfare.
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http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgJiek_Fafn posted...I don't like the precedent that this sets. It's easy enough for anyone proficient at Photoshop to spread pictures of someone that wasn't even there. With the witch hunt mentality, they're already guilty because Facebook pictures have proven it.
Hopefully if someone does that they get hit with a hug defamation suit."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeAs long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.One bourbon,one scotch,one beerYourDrunkFather posted...As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
It sucks that family members will be inevitably harmed by this (more the children than anything, I have less sympathy for spouses who are apparently okay with Neo-Nazism) but I wouldn't say the outers motivations are entirely unselfish. I know that if I had coworkers who were going to public Neo-Nazi protests, I'd want to know. I imagine most people might. Because Neo-Nazis are bad.S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love
Chiefs are going to win the Super BowlIf employees are outed as nazis, it kind of puts the employers in a bind tbh. Imagine how bad you look knowingly employing nazis. You could say the blame then lies on the people outing the nazis rather than the employers, but then why not just blame the nazis for being nazis?
honestly, losing your job is just a natural result once people know you're a naziYourDrunkFather posted...As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.yeah, honestly
"Maybe you shouldn't have told people that they're a nazi" doesn't make as much sense as "maybe you shouldn't be a nazi"eston posted...YourDrunkFather posted...
As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.One bourbon,one scotch,one beerYourDrunkFather posted...eston posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Asherlee10 posted...These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
exactlyMonolith1676 posted...People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
what's the other way? non-nazis being fired for not being nazis?ThyCorndog posted...Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
what's the other way? non-nazis being fired for not being nazis?
Asherlee10 posted...Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
If what went the other way?
I think he means like BLM protesterssigThyCorndog posted...Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
what's the other way? non-nazis being fired for not being nazis?
Yeah, I'm wondering what messed up argument is gonna be made to attempt to paint a sympathetic picture for these Nazis.
Anyway surprise Monolith, people overwhelmingly DON'T LIKE (Neo-)Nazis.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.Asherlee10 posted...YourDrunkFather posted...
eston posted...
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As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
You're acting like I'm arguing that the employer was wrong to fire him after recieving that information and I'm not. I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps and believe people are only doing it to hurt somebody they hate. Not only are you putting innocent people out in the street but your probably just going to radicalize these scumbags more and something bad might end up happening like another black church might get shot up. But hey, I hope feeling "rightous" was worth itOne bourbon,one scotch,one beerThe thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.God bless youDathrowed1 posted...ThyCorndog posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
what's the other way? non-nazis being fired for not being nazis?
Asherlee10 posted...Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
If what went the other way?
I think he means like BLM protesters
Even if that is what he's referencing, BLM != Nazis"Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."YourDrunkFather posted...Asherlee10 posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
eston posted...
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As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
You're acting like I'm arguing that the employer was wrong to fire him after recieving that information and I'm not. I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps
The profit margin and social standing of the business.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps and believe people are only doing it to hurt somebody they hate. Not only are you putting innocent people out in the street but your probably just going to radicalize these scumbags and something bad might end up happening like another black church might get shot up. But hey, I hope feeling "rightous" was worth it
"Don't call out nazis or else they may mass murder black people"
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I feel zero sympathy for anyone outed during these marches.buttsAs I said, I believe people deserve to know if they are employing or working alongside nazis. If that knowledge negatively impacts said nazi or his family, then perhaps there is a hard lesson embedded in there somewhere.fenderbender321 posted...The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
What if it's a position that has them in change of hiring or a position in law enforcement?Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1Kineth posted...YourDrunkFather posted...
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As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
You're acting like I'm arguing that the employer was wrong to fire him after recieving that information and I'm not. I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps
The profit margin and social standing of the business.
Which wouldn't be in any jeopardy without people going out of their way to point that out soooooo kind of a moot point. It's not like you care about that anyway.FrisbeeDude posted...I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps and believe people are only doing it to hurt somebody they hate. Not only are you putting innocent people out in the street but your probably just going to radicalize these scumbags and something bad might end up happening like another black church might get shot up. But hey, I hope feeling "rightous" was worth it
"Don't call out nazis or else they may mass murder black people"
Man gtfoh
Isn't that the same reason liberals say not to call out Muslims on their insidious beliefs? Because it might push them to terrorism?One bourbon,one scotch,one beerYourDrunkFather posted...Asherlee10 posted...
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eston posted...
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As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
You're acting like I'm arguing that the employer was wrong to fire him after recieving that information and I'm not. I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps and believe people are only doing it to hurt somebody they hate. Not only are you putting innocent people out in the street but your probably just going to radicalize these scumbags more and something bad might end up happening like another black church might get shot up. But hey, I hope feeling "rightous" was worth it
Unfortunately, you're under the impression that the Nazi is not responsible for his own actions. He is the one that endangered his family. Giving way to people like this is not the solution and to be honest you come across as a sympathizer.
This isn't just "someone they hate." This is literally a neo-Nazi. The world learned a hard lesson about hate groups like this."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."YourDrunkFather posted...Isn't that the same reason liberals say not to call out Muslims on their insidious beliefs? Because it might push them to terrorism?
This is just a petty stance to take. If we allow hate groups to flourish in society because we are scared of their reaction, then they've won.
(Please note that I am not referencing that Islam is a hate group. I am referencing that when a person becomes radicalized, it does become a hate group)"Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."fenderbender321 posted...The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
It doesn't have to be good for everyone. It can be good for the sake of good so we do not allow such groups to flourish."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."YourDrunkFather posted...Kineth posted...
The profit margin and social standing of the business.
Which wouldn't be in any jeopardy without people going out of their way to point that out soooooo kind of a moot point. It's not like you care about that anyway.
Well go ahead and cry about things that could have been, but back in reality, they were found and pointed out. You're right, I personally don't care about these business's profit margin and social standing, but I bet they do and made the right call. If I was aware that such a person worked at a business, I'd either ask to be served by someone else or take my business elsewhere. So I do care on another level. Point is, it was a direct answer to your question. Even my drunk father could figure that out.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.emblem boy posted...fenderbender321 posted...
The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
What if it's a position that has them in change of hiring or a position in law enforcement?
Then I say still let them keep their job. Of course, if they are not hiring qualified candidates because of their race as a hiring manager, or if you're targeting people of a specific race to arrest and harass as a cop, then you aren't demonstrating that you are a "skilled" worker.God bless youAsherlee10 posted...fenderbender321 posted...
The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
It doesn't have to be good for everyone. It can be good for the sake of good so we do not allow such groups to flourish.
If we have come down hard on a particular group's financial well-being and social status, they won't flourish in that regard, but the group's thoughts and beliefs will become stronger and more powerful than ever, because now they are an oppressed group, so they will belief that their cause is more righteous.God bless youAsherlee10 posted...YourDrunkFather posted...
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As long as the people doing the outing realize they're not exactly good people either. Because not only is getting them fired not going to change their bigoted views but you're probably going to be putting a lot of innocent women and children out in the street in the process. There's nothing moral about any of this, the motivations are entirely selfish.
Honestly I think posts like this are stupid, because if a nazi's family ends up on the streets as a result of this person being a nazi, it is not the fault of the people acknowledging that he is a f***ing nazi. People deserve to know if they are employing or working with someone like that. No one owes his family the courtesy of keeping it a secret.
Well of coarse you do. Because you don't give a f*** about what's right. And yes, if you're going out of your way to call someone's employer about something they did or said outside of work regardless if what it is, it is largely your fault they got fired.
This is just not a sound stance to take on the matter.
The employer has a choice to fire someone. If someone called another person's employer to say, "Hey, I saw your employee, Bob, getting some ice cream with his children this weekend and he was really rude to cashier." - Then the employer chooses to take action (or not) against Bob. Most likely, Bob won't be fired for being rude to a cashier. However, because Bob was spotted in the Nazi riots and has physical proof that Bob is a Nazi, of course his employer will take a harsh action against it.
These are products of Bob's choices and it's his responsibility.
You're acting like I'm arguing that the employer was wrong to fire him after recieving that information and I'm not. I'm just not sure what getting them fired helps and believe people are only doing it to hurt somebody they hate. Not only are you putting innocent people out in the street but your probably just going to radicalize these scumbags more and something bad might end up happening like another black church might get shot up. But hey, I hope feeling "rightous" was worth it
Unfortunately, you're under the impression that the Nazi is not responsible for his own actions.
No I am not. I'm just not sure this particular action taken against them is going to help anything. I feel no sympathy for them personally but as a father I am sensitive to innocent children being caught in the crossfireOne bourbon,one scotch,one beerAsherlee10 posted...YourDrunkFather posted...
Isn't that the same reason liberals say not to call out Muslims on their insidious beliefs? Because it might push them to terrorism?
This is just a petty stance to take. If we allow hate groups to flourish in society because we are scared of their reaction, then they've won.
(Please note that I am not referencing that Islam is a hate group. I am referencing that when a person becomes radicalized, it does become a hate group)
Yes wouldn't want to classify a religion that demonizes Jews, hates gays, and treats women like property all while worshipping a pedophile warlord prophet a hate group.
It's funny because Islam and Neo Nazi's spew hatred towards a lot of the same groups yet one we can call out and the other were supposed to tip toe around. It's non sensicalOne bourbon,one scotch,one beerFair nexthttp://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
What if it's a position that has them in change of hiring or a position in law enforcement?
Then I say still let them keep their job. Of course, if they are not hiring qualified candidates because of their race as a hiring manager, or if you're targeting people of a specific race to arrest and harass as a cop, then you aren't demonstrating that you are a "skilled" worker.
I guess the thing is how much you truly think the person wouldn't let their personal feelings impact their job, either in the past or in the future.
I mean, if I had a kid and I found out his teacher had beliefs like that, I for sure would not let my kid be in that teachers class. So ya, the school might not have to fire the teacher, but they'd be losing students.Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1emblem boy posted...fenderbender321 posted...
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
What if it's a position that has them in change of hiring or a position in law enforcement?
Then I say still let them keep their job. Of course, if they are not hiring qualified candidates because of their race as a hiring manager, or if you're targeting people of a specific race to arrest and harass as a cop, then you aren't demonstrating that you are a "skilled" worker.
I guess the thing is how much you truly think the person wouldn't let their personal feelings impact their job, either in the past or in the future.
I mean, if I had a kid and I found out his teacher had beliefs like that, I for sure would not let my kid be in that teachers class. So ya, the school might not have to fire the teacher, but they'd be losing students.
I would say that if a teacher was adept at teaching students, then his beliefs really don't matter. If the teacher is bringing their beliefs into the classroom, and teaching certain things that obviously shouldn't be, and treating students in an unprofessional manner, then they aren't a good teacher.
It really is kind of a catch-22 question. A "known" Nazi is likely not going to be a good worker. However, white supremacists that keep their opinions on the down-low are more common than you all think. Most of them stay professional, treat people equally, and are next to impossible to distinguish from non supremacists. If I found out one of my employees was a Nazi simply because he invited me over to his house and I saw a book about white supremacy on his coffee table, and that was the only reason I could ever tell, I certainly wouldn't take any action. But if he's "known" because he was on TV or social media waiving flags and shouting racist s***, or had swastikas tattooed all over his body in plain view, then that's probably going to be way different.God bless youfenderbender321 posted...emblem boy posted...
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
What if it's a position that has them in change of hiring or a position in law enforcement?
Then I say still let them keep their job. Of course, if they are not hiring qualified candidates because of their race as a hiring manager, or if you're targeting people of a specific race to arrest and harass as a cop, then you aren't demonstrating that you are a "skilled" worker.
I guess the thing is how much you truly think the person wouldn't let their personal feelings impact their job, either in the past or in the future.
I mean, if I had a kid and I found out his teacher had beliefs like that, I for sure would not let my kid be in that teachers class. So ya, the school might not have to fire the teacher, but they'd be losing students.
I would say that if a teacher was adept at teaching students, then his beliefs really don't matter. If the teacher is bringing their beliefs into the classroom, and teaching certain things that obviously shouldn't be, and treating students in an unprofessional manner, then they aren't a good teacher.
It really is kind of a catch-22 question. A "known" Nazi is likely not going to be a good worker. However, white supremacists that keep their opinions on the down-low are more common than you all think. Most of them stay professional, treat people equally, and are next to impossible to distinguish from non supremacists. If I found out one of my employees was a Nazi simply because he invited me over to his house and I saw a book about white supremacy on his coffee table, and that was the only reason I could ever tell, I certainly wouldn't take any action. But if he's "known" because he was on TV or social media waiving flags and shouting racist s***, or had swastikas tattooed all over his body in plain view, then that's probably going to be way different.
I mean this is the situation we're talking about in this hypothetical.
This isn't about someone being a low key white nationalist.
The thing is, both sides are making an assumption. One side is assuming the teacher wouldn't let their personal believes influence their job and the other is assuming they would.Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1shockthemonkey posted...How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
I know right?If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.shockthemonkey posted...How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
Oh I'm sorry. f*** those kids! Piece of s*** Nazi filthWombo Combo!
http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpgshockthemonkey posted...How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
There's a lot of people here that want to act like they actually support a Nazi's right to 'express free speech'I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaperConflict posted...shockthemonkey posted...
How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
There's a lot of people here that want to act like they actually support a Nazi's right to 'express free speech'
I do too. And I want to support the rights of others to enforce social consequences, within reason.shockthemonkey posted...How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
I don't blame any company that fires them. But I'd rather that they at least have to earn a paycheck by being useful to someone instead of taking unemployment or other benefits."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeDifferentialEquation posted...shockthemonkey posted...
How the f*** does this board have so many low lives who are sympathizing with white supremacists and Nazis? This s*** is gross. "Think of the Nazi children" ain't a f***ing excuse to let Nazi parents threaten our f***ing country.
I don't blame any company that fires them. But I'd rather that they at least have to earn a paycheck by being useful to someone instead of taking unemployment or other benefits.
And that's what they will all do. People are upset we can't hang them so the best way to stick it to these people is to fire them, which does nothing as they can just get government assistance. All this is doing is making doxxing okay.Wombo Combo!
http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpgfenderbender321 posted...Asherlee10 posted...
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
It doesn't have to be good for everyone. It can be good for the sake of good so we do not allow such groups to flourish.
If we have come down hard on a particular group's financial well-being and social status, they won't flourish in that regard, but the group's thoughts and beliefs will become stronger and more powerful than ever, because now they are an oppressed group, so they will belief that their cause is more righteous.
I think that's what they want, they want us to be afraid to come down on them. Without financial or societal support, they won't get very far at all. I don't think that is a risk."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."YourDrunkFather posted...No I am not. I'm just not sure this particular action taken against them is going to help anything. I feel no sympathy for them personally but as a father I am sensitive to innocent children being caught in the crossfire
Then, yes, you are under the impression that the neo-Nazis involved are not responsible for their own choices and actions."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Asherlee10 posted...fenderbender321 posted...
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
It doesn't have to be good for everyone. It can be good for the sake of good so we do not allow such groups to flourish.
If we have come down hard on a particular group's financial well-being and social status, they won't flourish in that regard, but the group's thoughts and beliefs will become stronger and more powerful than ever, because now they are an oppressed group, so they will belief that their cause is more righteous.
I think that's what they want, they want us to be afraid to come down on them. Without financial or societal support, they won't get very far at all. I don't think that is a risk.
You don't need a bunch of money or societal status to cause problems or further your cause, though.God bless youYourDrunkFather posted...Asherlee10 posted...
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Isn't that the same reason liberals say not to call out Muslims on their insidious beliefs? Because it might push them to terrorism?
This is just a petty stance to take. If we allow hate groups to flourish in society because we are scared of their reaction, then they've won.
(Please note that I am not referencing that Islam is a hate group. I am referencing that when a person becomes radicalized, it does become a hate group)
Yes wouldn't want to classify a religion that demonizes Jews, hates gays, and treats women like property all while worshipping a pedophile warlord prophet a hate group.
It's funny because Islam and Neo Nazi's spew hatred towards a lot of the same groups yet one we can call out and the other were supposed to tip toe around. It's non sensical
You're free to think however you want, but I want to be clear that I don't think Islam is a hate group. I think that people that become radicalized belong to a hate group.
Islam is still a religion and not everyone that is a Muslim is radicalized. That said, it is not even close to being part of a neo-Nazi group. Do I really need to go into detail about how they are different and should be treated differently?"Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."fenderbender321 posted...Asherlee10 posted...
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The thing that people don't understand, is that if a person (say a Nazi) is skilled in a particular field, it's not only beneficial for that person to be employed, it's also beneficial for themselves...for the economy, and thus society as a whole. We all benefit from the hard work that other people do.
But sadly, we live in such a hate-filled society. And as such, we reap what we sow. We hurt ourselves by hurting others. I think mostly we don't see how it hurts ourselves, because we get taught at such a young age that punishing bad people is always good for everyone.
It doesn't have to be good for everyone. It can be good for the sake of good so we do not allow such groups to flourish.
If we have come down hard on a particular group's financial well-being and social status, they won't flourish in that regard, but the group's thoughts and beliefs will become stronger and more powerful than ever, because now they are an oppressed group, so they will belief that their cause is more righteous.
I think that's what they want, they want us to be afraid to come down on them. Without financial or societal support, they won't get very far at all. I don't think that is a risk.
You don't need a bunch of money or societal status to cause problems or further your cause, though.
You can't really rally against a group of people you hate when you don't have money to eat. Regardless, if you don't come down on neo-Nazi because you fear their reaction, they've won."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Asherlee10 posted...You can't really rally against a group of people you hate when you don't have money to eat. Regardless, if you don't come down on neo-Nazi because you fear their reaction, they've won.
Are you saying poor people don't organize or protest?
The only thing we need to do to come down on neo-Nazis is reject their cause. Don't buy into what they're preaching. That, and defend ourselves from any immediate physical dangers.God bless youI don't get why people have so much faith that these guys wouldn't let their beliefs regarding race impact their job.
We're not talking about closeted white nationalists, we're talking about ones that came to this rally.
Ya we shouldn't buy into what they're preaching and should denounce the ideas, but if an open white supremacists is a police officer, can you truly say people would feel comfortable with them having that type of power and responsibility?
Even if they keep working, it wouldn't be far-fetched to want everything they do, to be reviewed in some wayPosted with GameRaven 3.2.1CurzonDax posted...Monday posted...
And it's almost certain none of the "Nazis" are actual Nazis but guys who told semi-racist jokes to the wrong co-worker.
Uhhh, how is that not worthy of termination? Racism has no place in the workplace even in jest. I'd fire anyone that made a racist joke.
My coworker is black. I am Irish. I have a feeling you wouldn't like us. We feel that people that go to HR over such matters are p****** that deserve an ass whoppin and probably don't get laid.Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me.Asherlee10 posted...Monolith1676 posted...
People cheer this, but if it went the other way there would be insane mass outrage.
If what went the other way?
If say, people went out espousing communist views suddenly started losing their jobs (again, as that happened historically). There's be hell to pay if someone lost their job for an occupy wall street rally, or just half the more pro-communist s*** posted online. For that matter, being gay was once a great way to lose your job because it was seen as degenerate behavior people didn't want to consort with.
Nazi's joined Commie as a term tossed out far to freely for me to take seriously. Even seeing the symbols only makes me wonder if they really believe in the philosophy, or if they just went out to trigger as many leftists as possible.The same people who suggest this 'handle with care' bulls*** think I'm pro-cop killing because I defend BLM. Calling them hypocrites doesn't seem scathing enough.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.- Boards
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