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Parade organizers say LGBT persons of colour may have 'negative associations' with official police symbols http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/calgary/calgary-pride-police-no-uniforms-1.4222363 How hypocritical is that? "This parade represents equality and acceptance amongst all people, except for this one particular group of people, because this other group of people hate them" |
Fam_Fam posted...
they aren't banning them. They are asking them not to wear their uniforms so not to be a distraction. That's a bit different. This is as close as they can get to removing the police. The mere sight of their uniforms offend them. Goes completely against what the parade is supposed to represent. |
Fam_Fam posted...
they aren't banning them. They are asking them not to wear their uniforms so not to be a distraction. That's a bit different. Asking a group of people to dress a specific way as to not offend another group, progressive!
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Cool so if someone decides to go nuts there police should just say pass.
f*** the police.....until you actually need em.
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Meanwhile police in Sweden Pride
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yeah kinda negates "gay pride" if your afraid to be proud of being gay in front of the police.
really gay pride parades are more "lets see how much lewd s*** we can get away with in the middle of the street" parades, so the less cops the better. if someone started assaulting them they'd sing a different tune however.
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You cant stop the cops from coming or wearing a uniform, lol what a bunch of idiots.
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This has more to do with BLM and their demands I heard about last year IIRC.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
BLM again or are gays being dumb on their own this time? BLM doesn't really seem to have much of a presence here. There's like no instances of violence against black people from police. At least nothing that gets reported. |
But Canada does have a BLM chapter.
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In pride last year in Stockholm there was a BLM movement in the parade. Totally ruined the mood. (for the moment) Everyone was happy and stuff then came the angry super loud shouting group that yelled out things that aren't even relevant in Sweden. It was weird as hell.
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Cheater87 posted...
This has more to do with BLM and their demands I heard about last year IIRC. Yeah it was that. IIRC, BLM didn't bother submit an application to attend the parade, so it was just them hijacking something as usual.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Fair, next. Police here aren't government funded gangs like they are in certain places in the US. |
they are saying please don't wear said outfit for (however number of hours) at this event. They aren't banning or mistreating them. It's a decision made to make people more comfortable, to the exclusion of no one.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/calgary/calgary-pride-police-no-uniforms-1.4222363 I don't particularly agree with it, but I see no harm being done. |
Damn, pride is no joke
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It is pretty disappointing really.
I can understand some people may find and have issues with the police, but this isn't the way to handle it. All it does is further exasperate the difference between them and make the police seem more like "other" than try and bring unity and harmony as these events intend. I would be very much disinclined to support any pride events here in the UK that required the same. |
Perascamin posted...
Fam_Fam posted...they aren't banning them. They are asking them not to wear their uniforms so not to be a distraction. That's a bit different. That's not what thought policing is.
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"So it's similar to things like PTSD, where sounds or sights can actually trigger these emotions or these responses, where they can relive these kind of traumatic episodes or situations that they've experienced in their lives." WTF? Could someone from Canada please share some insight on what is going on in Canada where people are getting PTSD from seeing law enforcement officers? I seriously thought Canada was supposed to be some super nice, wonder world filled with sweet snow and rainbows.
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No one wants cops at a pride parade anyway. Drag queens instinctually run from the police to begin with.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
"So it's similar to things like PTSD, where sounds or sights can actually trigger these emotions or these responses, where they can relive these kind of traumatic episodes or situations that they've experienced in their lives." It is snow and rainbows. Most of our media comes from the US where they see stories of police being mean to colored people so I guess thats why they get triggered? |
Chicken posted...
If those problems don't actually apply to Canada, then it looks like your pride parade is being hijacked by misguided individuals. Sad.
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"we're for equal rights, treat everyone the same....well, if you're one of us that is"
Just more segregation that seems to be okay with people. |
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Fair, next. Yup, and it's not like the police have always been the most helpful group to gay people or trans people. Even now cops are still arresting trans women in flyover states for decency reasons, because bystanding randos feel uncomfortable. Actually though, feels on this are still divided in the community, because for every gay person of color who's dealt with some s***, there's an army of thirstbuckets crowding in to take a picture with a hunk in a uniform. Double whammy : most of them are straight. WTS: Your dignity, sweetie.
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hollow_shrine posted...
Double whammy : most of them are straight. Why would this even be a factor? |
Chicken posted...
hollow_shrine posted...Double whammy : most of them are straight. It's tangentially related to another community issue. The community of gay men has a problem with the cult of masculinity, and a lot of that includes idolizing 'straight acting' men, and straight up fetis***ing straight dudes, who will never reciprocate their thirst. It'd be fine (don't kink shame...) if the community wasn't throwing a ton of self-loathing and shame at people who come off as more feminine acting. So we have an army of gay guys giving away their power to a society that is still vacillating back and forth on extent to which they should be treated like normal people. And it's like 'sis' gay people literally died to bring you this parade, and you want to give it to same power structures that literally would've dragged you from the bar to a holding cell or publicly shamed you forty years ago. Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Riviera are not impressed.'
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If I'm understanding the article, police aren't being banned from attending in uniform but rather they are being asked not to march in the parade in uniform. I still don't agree with it, but that's a big difference.
I just feel like asking the police to not display that they are police while marching in the parade perpetuates the exact thing they are trying to be sensitive to. Like, maybe minority LGBT's would feel less threatened by their local police if those local police were allowed to publicly show their support for the LGBT community. All this does is create more tension. |
eston posted...
If I'm understanding the article, police aren't being banned from attending in uniform but rather they are being asked not to march in the parade in uniform. I still don't agree with it, but that's a big difference. The only reason why the police are being asked is because the pride group does not actually have the authority to keep the police out, or at least not in uniform. The police could just be blunt and tell them to shut the f*** up and that they will not kowtow to any group, no matter what that group represents and what their agenda might be. Instead, the police, maybe because they are Canadian, are being cool about it and will still support them by complying.
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eston posted...
If I'm understanding the article, police aren't being banned from attending in uniform but rather they are being asked not to march in the parade in uniform. I still don't agree with it, but that's a big difference. Exactly. It is just awful and won't fix the situation they claim exists. Police should actively be encouraged to wear their uniform and participate in these sort of events. Foster that community and spirit between them all. Show each other that you are still people behind the uniform and don't make one another ashamed for wearing it. |
Pride started in response to an anti-police riot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
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