Charles Barkley says black people don't think about Confederate statues

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XHJYFL 3 days ago#1 http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/18/charles-barkley-thing-two-say-statue-busting-antifa-not-going-like-526759 When asked what we should do about the confederate statues, Barkley quipped: “I’m 54 years old. I’ve never thought about those statues a day in my life. If you ask most black people, they haven’t thought a day in their lives about those stupid statues.” Barkley — who has long called for an end black-on-black violence — said African-Americans need to focus on important things, not on empty virtue-signaling symbolism that does nothing to advance their cause. “What we as black people need to do is: we have to worry about getting our education,” he said. “We need to stop killing each other. We need to try to find ways to have more economic opportunity. Those things are important (not worrying about stupid statues).” http://i.imgur.com/kYb4jkz.jpg reportquote

BootyGif 3 days ago#2 he's right in the sense its not the biggest issue facing the Black community but its still relevant. reportquote

ImAMarvel 3 days ago#3 XHJYFL posted... “What we as black people need to do is: we have to worry about getting our education,” he said. “We need to stop killing each other. We need to try to find ways to have more economic opportunity. He's not wrong, but whenever I see Confederate monuments and statues, I do shake my head. The South never should've been allowed to venerate the Confederacy the way they have been. NNID: VoudouPriest, PSN: Superhero_Ronius http://i.imgur.com/IU2F6A4.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/Ab4yyPJ.jpg reportquote

JohnLennon6 3 days ago#4 Black Lives Matter could learn a thing or two from him. I stand with the Boston Free Speech Rally reportquote

Coffeebeanz 3 days ago#5 But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again? Physician [Internal Medicine] reportquote

lightwarrior78 3 days ago#6 You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. http://backloggery.com/reddthesock reportquote

JlM 3 days ago#7 Ah, finally! I've been dying to know what zero time champion and known doofus, Charles Barkley, thought about this current social issue. I guess I'm something of a ne'er do well. Pittsburgh reportquote

VectorChaos 3 days ago#8 Coffeebeanz posted... But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again? *googles* I must now play this. PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg reportquote

PrettyBoyFloyd 3 days ago#9 I'm white and a southern hillbilly and I never gave them a single thought either. The American Civil War is just something that happened a long time ago and has no meaning at this very moment. Like I'm pretty sure the blacks killing each other in Detroit, Chicago and Baltimore aren't doing it because of a war that happened like around a 155 years ago. The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] reportquote

TheVipaGTS 3 days ago#10 lightwarrior78 posted... You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. "Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however. reportquote

Bok_Choi 3 days ago#11 When did it stop being about the slams and jams I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg reportquote

AngelsNAirwav3s 3 days ago#12 Its just another example of white SJWs losing their s*** over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about Hello world! reportquote

JlM 3 days ago#13 AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Its just another example of white SJWs losing their s*** over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about 1. I don't think Charles Barkley is ACTUALLY the agreed upon spokesman for the African American community. I could be wrong though. 2. African Americans aren't the only "group" that are "offended". I think so, at least. Let's see what Charles Barkley has to say about other "groups" first. I guess I'm something of a ne'er do well. Pittsburgh reportquote

Ammonitida 3 days ago#14 TheVipaGTS posted... lightwarrior78 posted... You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. "Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however. It's a slippery slope that has people concerned (including the President). Many of the founding fathers were slave owners and overtly racist. One may have had sex with his slaves (Jefferson, although this has not been 100% established). There are frequent calls to remove monuments to these people. Al Sharpton talked about defunding the Jefferson memorial and placing it in a museum (lol).  http://canadafreepress.com/article/sharpton-targets-the-jefferson-memorial reportquote

ClunkerSlim 3 days ago#15 Let's be real, a lot of these statues look the same. Especially the ones you just drive by. I bet if you took the names off all the statues then most people couldn't even tell a Lee statue from a Washington statue. So I could definitely see some people in the black community driving by these things everyday and not even giving them two seconds thought. https://twitter.com/ClunkerSlim reportquote

fenderbender321 3 days ago#16 Always find myself liking the things Charles Barkley has to say. God bless you (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

legendary_zell 3 days ago#17 AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Its just another example of white SJWs losing their s*** over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about Just because it's not on our minds 24/7 doesn't mean it's something we're okay with. A black person in Compton is probably not worried about that, but if you asked, there's a 90 percent chance they're not okay with it and would prefer they weren't there at all. Not that you actually care about the opinions of minorities. Even with widespread agreement among black people that such monuments should be removed, you would still say "what about black on black crime " or just get over it". Don't use hypothetical minority opinions as a weapon or a shield unless those opinions actually affect your worldview. http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif reportquote

BootyGif 3 days ago#18 AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Its just another example of white SJWs losing their s*** over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about assumption! reportquote

TheVipaGTS 3 days ago#19 Ammonitida posted... TheVipaGTS posted... lightwarrior78 posted... You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. "Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however. It's a slippery slope that has people concerned (including the President). Many of the founding fathers were slave owners and overtly racist. One may have had sex with his slaves (Jefferson, although this has not been 100% established). There are frequent calls to remove monuments to these people. Al Sharpton talked about defunding the Jefferson memorial and placing it in a museum (lol).  http://canadafreepress.com/article/sharpton-targets-the-jefferson-memorial Yea they were slave owners. Did they actively fight to leave the United States over it? During the civil rights movement it was just "the way of the time" that people considered African Americans inferior. Should we celebrate those in time that actively fought to keep them from getting equal rights just because "that's the way it was at the time"? Nothing the confederacy did is worth celebrating today. It's worth remembering for historical reasons. Not celebrating and cheering.  When we celebrate Thomas Jefferson it's not about him owning slaves. When we celebrate confederacy soldiers it's about a war they fought in. One where they fought to leave the country. Why celebrate that? reportquote

BeantownHero 3 days ago#20 AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Its just another example of white SJWs losing their s*** over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about Scores of blacks people not only want those statues down, but have physically removed them (see Bree newsome)  You have no f***ing clue what we do or don't care about nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones reportquote

apocalyptic_4 3 days ago#21 He's right though PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse reportquote

Etherealfare 3 days ago#22 True. Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? No time to freeze undercovers ease up in Grand Prix, and seize packages and pocket the currency - GZA reportquote

lightwarrior78 3 days ago#23 TheVipaGTS posted... lightwarrior78 posted... You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. "Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however. I didn't say it's okay. I said they were a functionally useless activities chosen because they are able to be done mostly by being mad on social media rather than the actual tangible positive impact they'd have, as well as implying the selfishness of putting so much energy into low return projects as a form of dick measuring virtue signaling while people that need real help aren't getting it.  Sorry, but as someone that's lived and worked in the non-profit charity sector most of my life, I see more good being done in a single bag of groceries dropped off at a food bank than the cumulative confederate nazi decrying done in the last week. http://backloggery.com/reddthesock reportquote

JohnLennon6 3 days ago#24 Etherealfare posted... True. Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. I stand with the Boston Free Speech Rally reportquote

legendary_zell 3 days ago#25 lightwarrior78 posted... TheVipaGTS posted... lightwarrior78 posted... You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. "Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however. I didn't say it's okay. I said they were a functionally useless activities chosen because they are able to be done mostly by being mad on social media rather than the actual tangible positive impact they'd have, as well as implying the selfishness of putting so much energy into low return projects as a form of dick measuring virtue signaling while people that need real help aren't getting it.  Sorry, but as someone that's lived and worked in the non-profit charity sector most of my life, I see more good being done in a single bag of groceries dropped off at a food bank than the cumulative confederate nazi decrying done in the last week. These things are by no means mutually exclusive. I'd bet there's a huge overlap between the Nazi haters and the people donating. I work at a legal aid organization and literally every single one of us is vocally anti Nazi. http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 3 days ago#26 JohnLennon6 posted... Etherealfare posted...  True.  Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. tagged appropriately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

Bok_Choi 3 days ago#27 RickyTheBAWSE posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Etherealfare posted...  True.  Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. tagged appropriately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States Culturally and historically, Texas is largely considered an outsider, independent from what we traditionally refer to as the American South.  From what i know about the history of texas.... I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg reportquote

JohnLennon6 3 days ago#28 RickyTheBAWSE posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Etherealfare posted...  True.  Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. tagged appropriately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States RickyTheBAWSE posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Etherealfare posted...  True.  Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. tagged appropriately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States Oklahoma, Maryland, and Delaware are also not Southern. I stand with the Boston Free Speech Rally reportquote

creativerealms 3 days ago#29 Those statues were put up to intimidate blacks. They might have lost that impact over the year but the message is still clear. when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt. reportquote

Bok_Choi 3 days ago#30 creativerealms posted... Those statues were put up to intimidate blacks. They might have lost that impact over the year but the message is still clear. big if true I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg reportquote

ImTheMacheteGuy 3 days ago#31 Coffeebeanz posted... But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again? Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ reportquote

The Admiral 3 days ago#32 Glad to see him call out this hollow virtue signaling for what it is. - The Admiral reportquote

Dathrowed1 3 days ago#33 I don't care, but if you want them taken down just be careful about what you say when Islamists destroy Assyrian idols. sig reportquote

DevsBro 3 days ago#34 I've never even seen one of these statues. http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn reportquote

ClunkerSlim 3 days ago#35 Bok_Choi posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Etherealfare posted...  True.  Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a f*** about statues. Why would a black guy? Texas isn't the South. tagged appropriately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States Culturally and historically, Texas is largely considered an outsider, independent from what we traditionally refer to as the American South.  From what i know about the history of texas.... Correct. https://twitter.com/ClunkerSlim reportquote

Deadpool_18 3 days ago#36 Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them. We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. reportquote

UnfairRepresent 3 days ago#37 XHJYFL posted... “What we as black people need to do is Little did he know the divisive irony ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg reportquote

PrettyBoyFloyd 3 days ago#38 DevsBro posted... I've never even seen one of these statues. Neither have I and I lived in the South my whole life. They're just statues made of rock or some s*** anyway. Hell if people are that worked up about them then just put up pictures of your heroes or the war in you home. And then if others don't like it then they can just leave. The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] reportquote

AlternativeFAQS 3 days ago#39 rich person says thing (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

itachi15243 3 days ago#40 I don't think about climate change unless it's brought up. Does that make it okay I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz reportquote

Jabodie 3 days ago#41 We used to have a Jefferson Davis statue on my campus. It was taken down by a student council vote. <insert sig here> reportquote

The Great Muta 22 3 days ago#42 Deadpool_18 posted... Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them. It was funny how poorly made some of these things are. When those people pulled down the one the entire thing broke in half and was dented by people kicking it. Not to mention if they look tacky as all hell. I mean look at this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 reportquote

Santorin 3 days ago#43 Careful Muta your bias is showing in that post mods might get ya. reportquote

UnfairRepresent 3 days ago#44 The Great Muta 22 posted... Deadpool_18 posted... Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them. It was funny how poorly made some of these things are. When those people pulled down the one the entire thing broke in half and was dented by people kicking it. Not to mention if they look tacky as all hell. I mean look at this thing: Hes not even looking where he is shooting ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg reportquote

VectorChaos 3 days ago#45 The Great Muta 22 posted... "I came" PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg reportquote

The Great Muta 22 3 days ago#46 I still don't understand why the horse is so much bigger than him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 reportquote

Santorin 3 days ago#47 Bottom line is no one cared about this s*** until the media told them too reportquote

Donomark 3 days ago#48 I don't understand this. You can focus on more than one thing. You can focus on substantive issues, and symbolic ones. It's not hard. What pisses me off about this, is that he's not telling conservative White people that their ideas don't matter. They can have their status quo as they've always had. Barkley's idea keeps them comfortable. No, if black people want to change things for the better, and keep in mind that contrary to his comments, a lot of black people don't like these statues, they have to shut up and move on. That's bull****, Chuck. But go ahead, man. Keep on saying things that please White people who otherwise wouldn't give a damn about your opinion. 'You lecture those errant blacks, Chuck.' "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ reportquote

Gamer99z 3 days ago#49 And most white people never think about them either, most normal people never even think about them or give them a second thought. Which is exactly why they shouldn't be there or have ever been put up in the first place. "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus reportquote

Donomark 3 days ago#50 Santorin posted... Bottom line is no one cared about this s*** until the media told them too 100% unadulterated bull****. Several of the commemorations were controversial when they were first memorialized. Black people have had issues with it for years. It sounds like you're just now becoming aware of it. "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ reportquote

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   BootyGif 3 days ago#51 is that statue the pinnacle of southern art? reportquote

   TheVipaGTS 3 days ago#52 Donomark posted... Santorin posted... Bottom line is no one cared about this s*** until the media told them too 100% unadulterated bull****. Several of the commemorations were controversial when they were first memorialized. Black people have had issues with it for years. It sounds like you're just now becoming aware of it. Exactly. This BS happened last weekend because they were going to remove a statue and people organized a rally to fight that (or so they claim..we saw what it really became). It didn't just recently become a thing. Talk of removing these statues has been going on for a long time. Don't force your own ignorance of an issue on those actually involved with it. reportquote

   Scorsese2002 3 days ago#53 Obligatory.... R.I.P. GameFAQs Throwback Mode reportquote

   Klewer 2 days ago#54 confederate monuments are a symbolic representation of how white supremacy is deeply intertwined with the history of america, but they are not methods by which white supremacist policies and actions are inflicted upon racial minorities. so in one very narrow sense sense he's right, but overall that spiel just comes across as "black people gotta stop blaming whitey for all their problems!" which isn't helpful or insightful in the least. make yo dollas reportquote

   cjsdowg 2 days ago#55 Santorin posted... Bottom line is no one cared about this s*** until the media told them too I keep hearing people say that, this is untrue. The first march I was even end was about taken down CAS stuff around the state house when I was child. Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? reportquote

   Coffeebeanz 2 days ago#56 Physician [Internal Medicine] reportquote

   Zodd3224 2 days ago#57 He has a good point. But at the same time, white people shouldn't protest their removal either. I mean, if they are just stupid statues no one thinks about. http://t.qkme.me/3v9zte.jpg reportquote

   iPhone_7 2 days ago#58 Monuments in this country dedicated to people who sought to tear this country apart to be able to own black people. Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg reportquote

   kewldude475 2 days ago#59 Regardless of whether or not Charles Barkley thinks black people don't care about them, it's good that they're getting taken down http://i.imgur.com/cHoFFAL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ObkNHKb.png reportquote

   JohnLennon6 2 days ago#60 kewldude475 posted... Regardless of whether or not Charles Barkley thinks black people don't care about them, it's good that they're getting taken down Why is it good to take them down? I stand with the Boston Free Speech Rally reportquote

   Xelltrix  black2 days ago#61 I sure as hell never gave them a second's thought. I still don't care either way though I do think the history defense is funny. Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea reportquote

   Slip-N-Slide 2 days ago#62 JohnLennon6 posted... kewldude475 posted... Regardless of whether or not Charles Barkley thinks black people don't care about them, it's good that they're getting taken down Why is it good to take them down? Because there shouldn't be monument on government property to known racists who are only notable because they fought to keep slaves enslaved. Imagine if some courthouse decided to put up a monument to Malcolm X or something, and even then at least you could argue Malcolm X had a reason for being the way he was. Get wet. http://i.imgtc.com/2q3z3TmhFO.jpg reportquote

   UnfairRepresent 1 day ago#63 Slip-N-Slide posted... Because there shouldn't be monument on government property to known racists who are only notable because they fought to keep slaves enslaved. Which is why if the government proposed to buil d a new one it would probably get shut down This is not a valid reason to destroy existing history ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg reportquote

   Antifar 1 day ago#64 UnfairRepresent posted... This is not a valid reason to destroy existing history History was destroyed when the south pretended that these guys were the heroes of the story. It is a distortion of history for New Orleans to honor Robert E. Lee and not it's 1811 slave revolt, or 1892 general strike. kin to all that throbs reportquote

   Slip-N-Slide 1 day ago#65 UnfairRepresent posted... Slip-N-Slide posted... Because there shouldn't be monument on government property to known racists who are only notable because they fought to keep slaves enslaved. Which is why if the government proposed to buil d a new one it would probably get shut down This is not a valid reason to destroy existing history People who represent things like that shouldn't be on government property, just like I don't think there should be religious symbolism on government property. I'm not talking about "destroying history" and honestly I'm not even talking about destroying statues, I think they should be properly removed and moved to a museum or something of the sort where it belongs. I'm not saying to sweep that history under the rug, history should never be forgotten, especially the bad. But if you wouldn't put it there today then it shouldn't be there... Get wet. http://i.imgtc.com/2q3z3TmhFO.jpg reportquote

   Forever_Black 1 day ago#66 White people seem to care more about social issues than blacks. They're way more white people in BLM than black. At least that's what's demonstrated in their protests. Blacks don't have time for that. We're just trying to make this money. Ooouuu reportquote

   UnfairRepresent 1 day ago#67 Slip-N-Slide posted... People who represent things like that shouldn't be on government property, Which would be a decent reason not to create them today. Not to remove what exists Slip-N-Slide posted... I'm not saying to sweep that history under the rug Instead you're actively supporting sweeping it under the rug and don't have the balls to be honest ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg reportquote

   Slip-N-Slide 1 day ago#68 UnfairRepresent posted... Slip-N-Slide posted... People who represent things like that shouldn't be on government property, Which would be a decent reason not to create them today. Not to remove what exists Slip-N-Slide posted... I'm not saying to sweep that history under the rug Instead you're actively supporting sweeping it under the rug and don't have the balls to be honest No that's literally not even remotely what I'm supporting. They have no place on public government property, put then in a museum or something where they can be appreciated. Do you think of you get rid of a Robert E. Lee statue outside of a courthouse and move it to a civil war museum people will just all the sudden be "derp, who was Robert E. Lee? What was the civil war? I can't remember without the statue!" It's not nothing to lead to anyone forgetting anything except for maybe the fact that those statues used to be on government property for some reason. Get wet. http://i.imgtc.com/2q3z3TmhFO.jpg reportquote

   UnfairRepresent 1 day ago#69 I think history has been pretty clear and consistent in the fact that everyone and every society that has attempted to destroy and degrade history that displeases them has always resulted in a net negative for that society and humanity in general. You'll note the people who did so are the worst human beings that we know of. The Nazis, The Islamic State, Donald Trump, The Barbarians who sacked the Library of Alexandria, The Soviets, The Mad European Kings,  You're throwing your lot in with them and going "Yeah but I don't like THIS history so it's okay this time" I think it's short sighted. It's part of the "Reality is what I want it to be" culture which is dangerous. Fun correlation: Ever noticed that the same people who want the statues torn down are the same people who claim George Zimmerman got away with murder because of Stand Your Ground laws. Then if you mention Stand Your Ground laws had nothing to do with the case, you will never see them again. Why? Because it doesn't fit their reality, so they don't accept it. Its harmful thinking. Leave history where it lies, learn from it and change the present to build the future. Don't run around trying to oblierate the past on some kind of crusade. That way madness lies. ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg reportquote

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