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Unpopular opinion, the parents are to blame for most kids problems today

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AlBundy33 1 day ago#1
bullying, self esteem, self respect, etc

If your kids is bullied, it is your fault, because you never taught your kid to fight back

If your kid has self esteem/self respect issues, it is your fault, because you never taught your kid that the world doesn't give a f*** about them or their feelings.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#2
Kids have been bullied since the dawn of time, and will continue to be bullied until we as humanity snuff ourselves out. Pretending that bullying is unique to any particular generation shows either an astonishing lack of awareness of the human condition or a uniquely obtuse knowledge of history.
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How is this an unpopular opinion? Parents suck today. No one wants to discipline their kids and so we get a bunch of teenage whiners complaining about how they're so misunderstood and oppressed when they haven't left their suburb
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metralo 1 day ago#4
yeah both of these opinions are something i imagine someone like al bundy would have

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I4NRulez 1 day ago#5
Bullying comes from insecurities of the bully. They are confused about how and what they are feeling and they get scared so they redirect their insecurities on other people in the form of bullying.

As long as people are insecure there will always be bullies. Also my dad taught me how to box and i could probably beat up most of my bullies. Eventually you learn you cant beat em all up and the bullying still hurts
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this doesn't seem like an unpopular opinion

Are there actually people out there that think people/kids just are just born s***ty?
AlBundy33 1 day ago#7
I'm just tired of seeing all this nonsense "my kid committed suicide because he/she was bullied" or "my kid didn't get a trophy, even though his/her team lost 27-0"
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AlBundy33 posted...
I'm just tired of seeing all this nonsense "my kid committed suicide because he/she was bullied" or "my kid didn't get a trophy, even though his/her team lost 27-0"

The first one happens a lot more often than the latter unfortunately. Bullying these days is a lot more brutal since most kids and even adults are used to Internet anonymity which gives them the opportunity to be a complete a****** to anyone without revealing who you are. Feels sad for both the kid and parents involved in it

Edit: The T word is bad but a****** is A Ok? Lmao ok Gamefaqs
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but I generally don't like explanations that rely on one simple answer. "It's the parent's fault."

Yeah, probably contributory in most cases. But like most things in life, it's multi-factorial. There are a hundred and one different factors at play.

We live in a new time. Global communication and information at an unprecedented level of speed and access. Kids today don't face the same problems their parents did.

You can blame the parents, but for every case of some kid who gets bullied and has low self-esteem and chronic issues, there's another kid who their parents gave them the gritty approach. They take it too far and they're constantly in fights. Or their parent's world view leaves them with a very cynical outlook and they don't even try in life.

I mean, there's no "one size fits all" here.
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I blame many parents. They shouldn't have had children if they didn't intend to give them the tools to survive in life. You shouldn't have a child and let them pick their own way at a young age, that's throwing a kid to the wolves. They make stupid decisions because they are kids. Children require guidance and authority. 

I will probably not have kids, because I don't like the odds that it would be a good thing for the child. Society is toxic and I'm unstable. Gotta be honest with yourself sometimes. More and more to me, with dating and divorce the way it is, marriage and children seems awesome but in reality would proly be closer to hell. If your woman flipped on you it would turn in to Hell. I've seen it
Participation trophies and the like are selling children a lie.

In the real world, sometimes you CAN try your hardest and still lose. It's best to learn that when you're 8 after losing a baseball game rather than when you're 18 and you start setting cars on fire because your favorite candidate lost an election.
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I also find that parents don't know how to support their kids and show them how to follow their dreams. Dreaming is fine. Inaction is not. Dreaming and inaction at an older age shows a failure of an upbringing. A parent having their kid dive into their dreams to make them come true would give the child the discipline, motivation and logical mindset to take upon many tasks and have a purpose in life. I find the best time is when a kid is from 10-16, based on my many years of talking to parents and kids, and observing failures and successes.
Bad_Mojo 1 day ago#13
TC, it's not the parents that tell the kids not to stick up for themselves, it's the staff at the schools. My dad would have loved it if I blasted some a****** in the face because he was picking on me, but then I would have get suspended from school. 

Not to mention the assault charges that might be filed by a sue-happy parent.
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Participation trophies and the like are selling children a lie.

In the real world, sometimes you CAN try your hardest and still lose. It's best to learn that when you're 8 after losing a baseball game rather than when you're 18 and you start setting cars on fire because your favorite candidate lost an election.


This is also kind of overblown in my opinion. Sure, there are participation trophies, but I also got championship trophies. I didn't give a s*** about the former, I still competed for the latter, and it was okay when we didn't win. 

Everyone is always b****ing and moaning about participation trophies and I don't think they affected my psyche any one bit. Everyone loves to attribute it as the cause of the world's problems though, lol. We're not giving kids credit if we think giving a participation trophy will set them up for guaranteed failure later in life and is the cause of all their problems failing to adapt in today's world.

It's bulls***.
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lol @ people blaming participation trophies. Literally no kid gives a f*** about their trophies. I had a pile of trophies that I just tossed aside that my parents kept tryna put on display. It was fun to look at for a day then it got old fast. Anyone who thinks participation trophies are causing any sort of harm in society is a f***ing idiot. 

There are thousands of things that deserve blame and need improvement before participation trophies are addressed. Gimme a f***ing break. What a stupid f***ing opinion.
DanHarenChamp posted...
lol @ people blaming participation trophies. Literally no kid gives a f*** about their trophies. I had a pile of trophies that I just tossed aside that my parents kept tryna put on display. It was fun to look at for a day then it got old fast. Anyone who thinks participation trophies are causing any sort of harm in society is a f***ing idiot. 

There are thousands of things that deserve blame and need improvement before participation trophies are addressed. Gimme a f***ing break. What a stupid f***ing opinion.



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gafemaqs 1 day ago#17
Going by the title, your parents must never have taught you proper punctuation.
MoreRpgs 1 day ago#18
I thought it was a popular opinion
DanHarenChamp posted...
lol @ people blaming participation trophies. Literally no kid gives a f*** about their trophies. I had a pile of trophies that I just tossed aside that my parents kept tryna put on display. It was fun to look at for a day then it got old fast. Anyone who thinks participation trophies are causing any sort of harm in society is a f***ing idiot. 

There are thousands of things that deserve blame and need improvement before participation trophies are addressed. Gimme a f***ing break. What a stupid f***ing opinion.


Bold is not true at all. 

Why are you so defensive over participation trophies? It's not just the trophy, it's the everyone is a winner mindset that it represents. No matter what, you're a winner, you're good.

Umm... no. You weren't good enough. You arent always a winner. That's what makes people strive for more and to push themselves. If everyone is already 'good enough' they won't try as hard, will they? It's called motivation. You get all that, mr angry? 

It is definitely an issue in modern society, many of these kids can't take failure at all. Because they've been coddled. Look at all the men who cower from women for fear of rejection. Participation trophy boyz
Keith_Valentine posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...
lol @ people blaming participation trophies. Literally no kid gives a f*** about their trophies. I had a pile of trophies that I just tossed aside that my parents kept tryna put on display. It was fun to look at for a day then it got old fast. Anyone who thinks participation trophies are causing any sort of harm in society is a f***ing idiot. 

There are thousands of things that deserve blame and need improvement before participation trophies are addressed. Gimme a f***ing break. What a stupid f***ing opinion.


Bold is not true at all. 

Why are you so defensive over participation trophies? It's not just the trophy, it's the everyone is a winner mindset that it represents. No matter what, you're a winner, you're good.

Umm... no. You weren't good enough. You arent always a winner. That's what makes people strive for more and to push themselves. If everyone is already 'good enough' they won't try as hard, will they? It's called motivation. You get all that, mr angry? 

It is definitely an issue in modern society, many of these kids can't take failure at all. Because they've been coddled. Look at all the men who cower from women for fear of rejection. Participation trophy boyz


yea nothing you said is true whatsoever. this is just a cop out for those people who dont have the ability to utilize common sense.
Soviet_Poland posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Participation trophies and the like are selling children a lie.

In the real world, sometimes you CAN try your hardest and still lose. It's best to learn that when you're 8 after losing a baseball game rather than when you're 18 and you start setting cars on fire because your favorite candidate lost an election.


This is also kind of overblown in my opinion. Sure, there are participation trophies, but I also got championship trophies. I didn't give a s*** about the former, I still competed for the latter, and it was okay when we didn't win. 

Everyone is always b****ing and moaning about participation trophies and I don't think they affected my psyche any one bit. Everyone loves to attribute it as the cause of the world's problems though, lol. We're not giving kids credit if we think giving a participation trophy will set them up for guaranteed failure later in life and is the cause of all their problems failing to adapt in today's world.

It's bulls***.

When I played baseball as a kid, and my team (The Encinitas Marlins) came 1st in the season, I'd be lying if I said my sense of pride wasn't diminished at all when every other team got trophies that looked exactly like mine save for the tiny "1st Place" on the nameplate.
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AlBundy33 posted...
If your kids is bullied, it is your fault, because you never taught your kid to fight back


That's bulls***. I was always a big kid. I used to beat the hell out of my bullies two or three times a week. They still didn't stop constantly harassing me, stealing my stuff, or trying to provoke me.
Balrog0 1 day ago#23
I unironically still have my participation trophies on my mantle

I've never won a real trophy

why does everyone hate me?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Soviet_Poland posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Participation trophies and the like are selling children a lie.

In the real world, sometimes you CAN try your hardest and still lose. It's best to learn that when you're 8 after losing a baseball game rather than when you're 18 and you start setting cars on fire because your favorite candidate lost an election.


This is also kind of overblown in my opinion. Sure, there are participation trophies, but I also got championship trophies. I didn't give a s*** about the former, I still competed for the latter, and it was okay when we didn't win. 

Everyone is always b****ing and moaning about participation trophies and I don't think they affected my psyche any one bit. Everyone loves to attribute it as the cause of the world's problems though, lol. We're not giving kids credit if we think giving a participation trophy will set them up for guaranteed failure later in life and is the cause of all their problems failing to adapt in today's world.

It's bulls***.

When I played baseball as a kid, and my team (The Encinitas Marlins) came 1st in the season, I'd be lying if I said my sense of pride wasn't diminished at all when every other team got trophies that looked exactly like mine save for the tiny "1st Place" on the nameplate.


So your point is thats why you turned out to be a loser with no work ethic?
AlBundy33 12 hours ago#25
All I know is that when I was a kid, when my team lost, we didn't get trophies, we did go out for ice cream, but that was a way to lick our wounds, we got scolded by our coach(my dad) when we f***ed up, that is the way it should be

Kids need to be able to hear "You lost, you need to try harder next time"

Like I said in my previous post, the world doesn't give a flying f*** about your kids feelings, and the parents hate the fact that that is true, and those parents shouldn't have had kids.
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HBOSS 12 hours ago#26
Its a combo of everyone around. Basically nobody teaches you how to be a parent and you look at the people around you cause raising a kid is a community thing. Parents are expected to do this & that. Teachers and supposed to develop this & that. Friends need to be positive influences. We know getting these 3 crucial elements to raise a child requires luck, a whole lot of time and focused effort. 

For starters parents cant afford time and effort. Then, teachers and friends also are hindered in some way. As a result, children are left to their own devices and resources to mold themselves. That honor of raising your child comes in the form of media. Kids are resourceful and they find other externalities to fill the roles missing in their lives.
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That_Happened 12 hours ago#27
AlBundy33 posted...
All I know is that when I was a kid, when my team lost, we didn't get trophies,


Then you're probably in your 40s. Participation trophies have been a thing since the 80s. And your opinions on parenting aren't anything new. every generation thinks the new generation of parents "suck" and that their kids are misbehaving at a high rate. The only thing that has really chanaged is that the internet was invented, so now we see more examples of kids being stupid or being entitled, or parents whining about the way their kids are treated. I don't know about your friends, but I rarely see this kind of behavior in my friends or their kids. I have to check out the latest viral videos on Facebook or Twitter to see that kind of thing.
AlBundy33 12 hours ago#28
That_Happened posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
All I know is that when I was a kid, when my team lost, we didn't get trophies,


Then you're probably in your 40s. Participation trophies have been a thing since the 80s. And your opinions on parenting aren't anything new. every generation thinks the new generation of parents "suck" and that their kids are misbehaving at a high rate. The only thing that has really chanaged is that the internet was invented, so now we see more examples of kids being stupid or being entitled, or parents whining about the way their kids are treated. I don't know about your friends, but I rarely see this kind of behavior in my friends or their kids. I have to check out the latest viral videos on Facebook or Twitter to see that kind of thing.


25 actually

IF they really wanna do participation things, they should get a small ribbon, while the winning teams get trophies
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foreveraIone 12 hours ago#29
The coddling started with the boomers.

The men and women of the wwii and silent generations were made of iron and steel.

People now are made of softer stuff. 

I am not sure we are prepared for the bad incidents which will occur in the next few decades....they are gonna suck
That_Happened 12 hours ago#30
AlBundy33 posted...
25 actually

IF they really wanna do participation things, they should get a small ribbon, while the winning teams get trophies


This kind of thing already happens. Sometimes it's just a participation ribbon, or a medal, while the winners get trophies. Or sometimes the winners get bigger trophies. It's not the crisis you're making it out to be. And if you're 25, then when you were a kid people were DEFINITELY getting participation trophies. Maybe not in your league but the idea was already popular at that point.
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iosifsvoboda 12 hours ago#31
They don't teach you to get back up after you fall down they teach you to blame society for being unfair
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Knowledge_King 11 hours ago#32
I4NRulez posted...
Also my dad taught me how to box and i could probably beat up most of my bullies. Eventually you learn you cant beat em all up and the bullying still hurts


But you can. And you should ignore bullying, not let it hurt you.
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That_Happened 11 hours ago#33
Knowledge_King posted...
And you should ignore bullying, not let it hurt you.


Only works to a certain extent. If it's one or two people being dicks to you and you have a few good friends, you can ignore it. If you're socially outcast and groups of people are making your life miserable it's a lot harder to "ignore."
Sephiroth1288 6 hours ago#34
DanHarenChamp posted...
So your point is thats why you turned out to be a loser with no work ethic?

It definitely helped convince me not to play baseball again, lol
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