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Yes, members of the Democrat Party have done some pretty disgraceful things in the distant past, from founding the Klan, to supporting slavery, to Japanese Internment. Nobody is trying to excuse those things... and yet, whenever somebody points out who the Klan, American Nazis, and the rest of the White Supremacist groups that comprise the alt-right support *now*, that's the INSTANT response. "What about stuff that happened before any of us were born?"
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SkaterBassistKev posted...
Well everybody knows the parties switched over Sure, they know that, but why would they continually bring it up? I'm more asking the people who keep doing that. Is it a defense mechanism, because they know they're on the wrong side of history but lack the maturity to say they were wrong, or is it something else?
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Because they want to claim that Democrats are the real racists to deflect accusations of being racist themselves. And it usually works and derails the topic into people trying to 'prove' that Democrats of the past being racist doesn't have anything to do with the modern party and dropping the accusation on the wayside while defending themselves to.
I mean, i never see the right bash the left on anything because the blame game causes more issues than anything-Josh
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tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. The Dixiecrats were real. They're the people that s*** most of those statues out everywhere 100 years after the Civil War ended. The guys who put up statues and battle flags on public property not to honor the past, but pave the way of a protestant white supremacist future. They joined the republican party over states rights once the fed beat them down and the same people who put those statues up as Democrats are the same people still defending them as Republicans. Those statues are history alright, history of the "so called switch". |
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tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. And Republicans are the party that has the Nazis and KKK marching for them in the here and now, thanks for playing.
I mean, i never see the right bash the left on anything because the blame game causes more issues than anything-Josh
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Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago.
Basically they are trying to point out that Dems are huge hypocrites. Which as a centrist i do feel is true but there is no defense for KKK/Nazis. Personally I could never join the kkk even if i was a racist a****** because my parents aren't related
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Heineken14 posted...
Patriotwolf posted...Basically they are trying to point out that Dems are huge hypocrites Oh I get it, you're one of those people who doesn't know what a centrist actually is. Centrism is not political agnosticism
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Because we are living in crazy town. That's the only plausible explanation.
Many (not all) conservatives have blinded themselves to the facts so they can keep repeating the same arguments over and over again until they've said it so loud and so often that they actually believe it. So sure, "Democrats" were responsible for slavery, KKK, all that. But it's not Democrats who are trying to defend those things today. It's the same lame argument people used against Arnold Schwarzenegger when he unequivocally condemned the Nazis at Charlottesville. The best argument people could come up with was "Well Arnold's parents were Nazis, so there." They don't hear how lame this is. How, in fact, that only supports Arnold's own condemnation. If he, who was born in the time of the Nazis and whose parents supported Nazism, can stand up and say "No, Nazis are not good people," shouldn't we all be able to? So if conservatives are going to continue to lean on this argument that Lincoln was a Republican and it was the Democrats responsible for all racism during the Civil War (while also ignoring party realignment and the civil rights movement), then they are still offering a lame argument. If those same Democrats can now stand up and say "No, slavery and racism are wrong and we should not be glorifying them" why can't Republicans?
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Patriotwolf posted...
Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago. And most of those statues were either put up during the height of Jim Crow (Late 1890s to 1920s.) at the behest of racists, to instill fear and remind black people of 'their place' , and in the Civil Rights movement from the early 50s to the 60s, to once again instill fear and remind them who 'was in charge'.
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Twinmold posted...
Far right nutters on here love to claim to be centrists. Libs like you have such high confirmation bias that they can't fathom how someone that disagrees with them is not far right. I used to be a proud libertarian but every spectrum test I have taken in the last couple years has put me just left if center beciase of my stances on, among other things, healthcare and gun control. But please, if you have a shred of evidence that I'm far right please present it. Or you can continue to be an ignorant sheep.
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Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
Patriotwolf posted...Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago. I'm not against those statues coming down, but I would like the proof for you claims
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Because linear time isn't a thing and the past is the present, duh
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Patriotwolf posted...
Lord_of_BeefDip posted...Patriotwolf posted...Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago. http://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments From the History Channel
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tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on.
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Xtopher85 posted...
Patriotwolf posted...Lord_of_BeefDip posted...Patriotwolf posted...Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago. Thanks
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Patriotwolf posted...
Xtopher85 posted...Patriotwolf posted...Lord_of_BeefDip posted...Patriotwolf posted...Probably because libs keep wanting to take down statues form a war that happened well over 100 years ago. Anytime :)
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Xtopher85 posted...
Because we are living in crazy town. That's the only plausible explanation. TheY2AProblem posted... tl0_olt posted...Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. So...can't read, or choosing willful ignorance?
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Kradek posted...
Because they still deny the historically documented fact of when the most prominent racist Democrats jumped ship to join the Republicans. Yeah, it is like that with a lot of things. Take slavery for instance. And I am not taking anything away from that awful crap. But I never owned a slave. Never would. There were white slaves as well. Some indentured servants were basically slaves because they never got out of it. Many diverse backgrounds. Yet some act like it is all my fault as a white person. This falls into the same issue. People like to find excuses, reasons, whatever they can to justify. They have to know what they are saying is wrong. Wrong in that it is basically them trying to act like the Democrats of today are that same party. That they are the racist, KKK, white supremacists. When we all can see that these groups are with the Republican party now. |
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Why are Republicans so eager to point out that Democrats founded the Klan?
they get angry when people on the Left say they're "on the right side of history" and all that, as if there's some long untarnished Progressive tradition going all the way back to King Solomon but you seem to acknowledge that mistakes were made so that shouldn't be held against you SkaterBassistKev posted... Well everybody knows the parties switched over That was one person and it was Strom Thurmond. The idea that Republicans jumped to the other side of the aisle over civil rights in the 1960-70s is one of the biggest myths in American political history.
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tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. But...they aren't now. Now it's the GOP that's racist, against progress, etc. Now it's you guys. That's the point.
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@tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. So you still suck on your mom's boobs, because you did so decades ago. By your logic, anyway. I'll tag you as "guy who sucks on his mom's boobs," so I don't forget. I encourage everybody else to do the same.
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Patriotwolf posted...
These days? Centrist just means "fringe-right a****** who pretends they're not Republican because they support some other right-wing party." Even under the best of circumstances, "centrist" is just a term dumb people apply to themselves to make themselves feel better about not knowing anything about what's going on. Twinmold posted... Far right nutters on here love to claim to be centrists. Not just on here either. Libertarians think of themselves as centrist as well. "Same thing both sides" has been the rallying cry for the dumb but loud for a long time.
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AKA_Tex_Mex posted...
Patriotwolf posted... No, people are using centrist because thats what political spectrum tests give them. All the spectrum tests I have take in the last two years put me at "centrist" or "center left". Funny enough is the fact that the only ones berating centrists and committing ad hominem against them is the "tolerant and open minded" left. If you don't see why being a centrist/moderate whatever is a real viable option then not only is confirmation bias filling your sheepish eyes...But I think you should probably do the world a favor and never vote or speak on politics again.
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AKA_Tex_Mex posted...
These days? Centrist just means "fringe-right a****** who pretends they're not Republican because they support some other right-wing party." Right-wing, by your standard, being anyone who's not an SJW aye?
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hoax123 posted...
Centrism is a flawed concept in this country, since the overton window is so far right. In the US I suppose that holds true. In the UK where I'm from, the conservatives are a fair bit less right-wing than the American mainstream right.
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I like to say that the Democrats have been wrong for at least 150 years. They were wrong about slavery. They were wrong about segregation. They're wrong about the Detroit model and welfare dependency. Every single time they thought they were the future, but their actions were what stood in the way.
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AKA_Tex_Mex posted...
Sure, they know that, but why would they continually bring it up? Because Republican voters DON'T know that. And they're counting on that ignorance in order to keep their vote.
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tl0_olt posted...
Because the so called switch is a democrats narrative to deflect that they are the party of slavery, created the clan, created jim crow, wanted segregation, voted against civil rights and voting rights of the 60s and so on. The Democrats wrote the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, troll. And it's Republicans today who oppose the Voting Rights Act and seek to re-create Jim Crow. The Ku Klux Klan might be part of the Democratic Party's past, but it's part of the Republican Party's present.
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- Why are Republicans so eager to point out that Democrats founded the Klan?
SpawnShadow posted...Because the Republicans want to deflect from the fact that after the Democrats dropped the Klan like it had burst into flame, the Republicans welcomed them into their party with open arms.
Patriotwolf posted...Funny enough is the fact that the only ones berating centrists and committing ad hominem against them is the "tolerant and open minded" left.
It's almost like there is some sort of history on this board of specific behavior that he exactly described.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.TaiIs82 posted...I like to say that the Democrats have been wrong for at least 150 years.
You also seem to like being wrong about everything you post.A bad enough dude to save the President.
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