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You're not pansexual. You're bisexual.

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OpheliaAdenade 19 hours ago#1
There, I said it. :v The elephant in the room has finally been addressed.
l Dudeboy l 19 hours ago#2
Actually I'm heterosexual.
You are now breathing manually.
Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over.
OpheliaAdenade 19 hours ago#3
l Dudeboy l posted...
Actually I'm heterosexual.


get out
Chicken 19 hours ago#4
No I'm actually attracted to people who sexually identify as cookware.
hollow_shrine 19 hours ago#5
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?
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l Dudeboy l 19 hours ago#6
OpheliaAdenade posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Actually I'm heterosexual.


get out


Make me
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bevan306 19 hours ago#7
thanosibe 19 hours ago#8
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Asherlee10 19 hours ago#9
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


This makes sense.
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OpheliaAdenade 19 hours ago#10
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


if you're not a transwoman or you're not a transman, than what are you? :u
SSJGrimReaper 19 hours ago#11
bevan306 posted...
What if I'm attracted to pans

then you're a racist
Chicken 19 hours ago#12
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


if you're not a transwoman or you're not a transman, than what are you? :u


A miserable pile of secrets.
hollow_shrine 19 hours ago#13
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


if you're not a transwoman or you're not a transman, than what are you? :u

a person.

you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.
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OpheliaAdenade 19 hours ago#14
hollow_shrine posted...
a person.you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


Everyone is either a boy or a girl though hollow. :v
VectorChaos 18 hours ago#15
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
a person.you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


Everyone is either a boy or a girl though hollow. :v


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MakoReizei 18 hours ago#16
there are only two genders. pansexual is snowflake for bisexual.
Raikuro 18 hours ago#17
Some people are more of a mix of both male and female. Logically bisexuals would be into feminine dudes and masculine chicks, but many aren't and are only into distinct men and women. Pansexual is basically further clarification that they are into anything between.
CanuckCowboy 18 hours ago#18
MakoReizei posted...
there are only two genders. pansexual is snowflake for bisexual.


This is objectively wrong. 

hollow_shrine posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


if you're not a transwoman or you're not a transman, than what are you? :u

a person.

you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


In what sense? 

Cause afaic everyone should do their thing and do their best to be happy. But if you're implying I have to understand them I disagree and it'll never happen. 

Doesn't mean they're lesser people or I don't respect someone because of their sexual or gender orientation... But it's not something I get.
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MakoReizei 18 hours ago#19
CanuckCowboy posted...
This is objectively wrong.

how?
SlashmanSG 18 hours ago#20
MakoReizei posted...
there are only two genders. pansexual is snowflake for bisexual.
Veggeta_MAX 18 hours ago#21
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BeautifulBlaze 18 hours ago#22
VectorChaos posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
a person.you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


Everyone is either a boy or a girl though hollow. :v


vRKaEb1


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WilliamPorygon 18 hours ago#23
I'm a male who (in the realm of human-only sex) would want to actually have sexual contact with females only, but likes watching and being watched by both men and women. So what's the term for that?
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hollow_shrine 18 hours ago#24
CanuckCowboy posted...
MakoReizei posted...
there are only two genders. pansexual is snowflake for bisexual.


This is objectively wrong. 

hollow_shrine posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
bi = two
pan = all

these things are not the same. there is, therefore, validity in both.

we do know that not all transpeople identify exclusively as transwomen or transmen, right?


if you're not a transwoman or you're not a transman, than what are you? :u

a person.

you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


In what sense? 

Cause afaic everyone should do their thing and do their best to be happy. But if you're implying I have to understand them I disagree and it'll never happen. 

Doesn't mean they're lesser people or I don't respect someone because of their sexual or gender orientation... But it's not something I get.

We don't have to get it. There are things I don't understand about my closest friends and family, and probably never will. If there's confusion, ask their preferred pronouns and use them. Most transpeople know there's confusion. If you're honest with them about it and you're acting in good faith they'll happily work with you, gratified just to see someone making an effort. And ultimately their being trans is less important than whatever friendship you had prior to them coming out anyway.

WilliamPorygon posted...
I'm a male who (in the realm of human-only sex) would want to actually have sexual contact with females only, but likes watching and being watched by both men and women. So what's the term for that?

This is a description of the voyeur fetish, which isn't particularly concerned with the gender or sex of the participants so much as the novelty of having sex in the presence of an audience.
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thanosibe 18 hours ago#25
BeautifulBlaze posted...
VectorChaos posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
a person.you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


Everyone is either a boy or a girl though hollow. :v


vRKaEb1


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The Admiral 18 hours ago#26
What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual? That you'll also sleep with transgenders?
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thanosibe 18 hours ago#27
The Admiral posted...
What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual? That you'll also sleep with transgenders?
But if someone is transgendered to another gender; aren't they that gender? So it still seems like a redundant term. Since having sex with a transgendered person is still having sex with a male of female person; bisexual.
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OpheliaAdenade 18 hours ago#28
WilliamPorygon posted...
I'm a male who (in the realm of human-only sex) would want to actually have sexual contact with females only, but likes watching and being watched by both men and women. So what's the term for that?


a whore
The Admiral 18 hours ago#29
thanosibe posted...
The Admiral posted...
What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual? That you'll also sleep with transgenders?
But if someone is transgendered to another gender; aren't they that gender? So it still seems like a redundant term. Since having sex with a transgendered person is still having sex with a male of female person; bisexual.


I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender. I'm okay with another term for the ones who will.
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OpheliaAdenade 18 hours ago#30
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender. I'm okay with another term for the ones who will.


I think most guys would actually be okay with it if there weren't such stigma attached to it. :v I don't see the point of a new word just for that.
CrimsonRage 18 hours ago#31
The Admiral posted...
What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual? That you'll also sleep with transgenders?


Basically. Bisexuals tend to only be attracted to biological men and women. A pansexual is someone attracted to all gender identities.
What if you're, uh, aroused by cookware and like to rub it on your naughty bits? 
That would definitely be pansexual.
thanosibe 18 hours ago#33
The Admiral posted...
thanosibe posted...
The Admiral posted...
What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual? That you'll also sleep with transgenders?
But if someone is transgendered to another gender; aren't they that gender? So it still seems like a redundant term. Since having sex with a transgendered person is still having sex with a male of female person; bisexual.


I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender. I'm okay with another term for the ones who will.
Still bisexual is a willingness to have sex with the two genders. Whether heterosexual guys will have sex with a transgendered person doesn't change that having sex with a transgendered person isn't still having sex with either a male or female.
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LinksLiege 18 hours ago#34
OpheliaAdenade posted...
a whore

Voyeur/exhibitionist, more like :V
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OpheliaAdenade 18 hours ago#35
LinksLiege posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
a whore

Voyeur/exhibitionist, more like :V


tomato, tamato :u
VectorChaos 18 hours ago#36
BeautifulBlaze posted...
VectorChaos posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
a person.you're having fun, but some people legit can't get past this and their frustration with their confusion leads them to make some really unfortunate decisions about their treatment of sexual/gender minorities.


Everyone is either a boy or a girl though hollow. :v


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COVxy 18 hours ago#37
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender.


Which has little to do with sexual orientation.
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bobtuse 18 hours ago#38
And then there's those goobers who refer to themselves as "sapiosexual". I'm not into dummies either, but I don't act like that makes me special.
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The Admiral 18 hours ago#39
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender.


Which has little to do with sexual orientation.


You tell yourself that.
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Dathrowed1 18 hours ago#40
bobtuse posted...
And then there's those goobers who refer to themselves as "sapiosexual". I'm not into dummies either, but I don't act like that makes me special.

Sapiosexual is very obnoxious.
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bobtuse posted...
And then there's those goobers who refer to themselves as "sapiosexual". I'm not into dummies either, but I don't act like that makes me special.

Do they, uh, cry out algebra equations during the climax?
COVxy 18 hours ago#42
The Admiral posted...
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender.


Which has little to do with sexual orientation.


You tell yourself that.


Is this supposed to be a veiled attack on my sexuality?

Perhaps you want to look up some FtM transgendered people and try to convince yourself that it would be totally heterosexual to hit dat. I mean, they are truly a woman, afterall, yes?
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Ilishe 18 hours ago#43
WilliamPorygon posted...
I'm a male who (in the realm of human-only sex) would want to actually have sexual contact with females only, but likes watching and being watched by both men and women. So what's the term for that?


Heterosexual with a voyeurist fetish?
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The Admiral 18 hours ago#44
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender.


Which has little to do with sexual orientation.


You tell yourself that.


Is this supposed to be a veiled attack on my sexuality?

Perhaps you want to look up some FtM transgendered people and try to convince yourself that it would be totally heterosexual to hit dat. I mean, they are truly a woman, afterall, yes?


Your heterosexual instincts might give you an initial attraction, but it's completely into the realm of homosexuality once a penis is involved and you continue on with the sex acts.
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Balrog0 18 hours ago#45
i have so many friends that would be mad at u
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OpheliaAdenade 18 hours ago#46
The Admiral posted...
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't know if it's redundant, since most straight men will not sleep with a MtF transgender.


Which has little to do with sexual orientation.


You tell yourself that.


How does it make you gay if you're attracted to someone who looks completely like the gender you prefer? If they're pre-op that's different... but post-op? I don't see how that makes you anything less straight. 

Like, gay men aren't attracted to transwomen despite them originally being men. Same with straight guys not being attracted to transmen despite them originally being female.
COVxy 18 hours ago#47
The Admiral posted...
Your heterosexual instincts might give you an initial attraction, but it's completely into the realm of homosexuality once a penis is involved and you continue on with the sex acts.


There is no penis in a fully transitioned MtF transgendered person.
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_Goggalor_ 18 hours ago#48
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OpheliaAdenade 18 hours ago#49
Personally, I think if you like chicks with dicks, you're kinda at the halfway point between gay and straight. :v
bobtuse 17 hours ago#50
Questionmarktarius posted...
Do they, uh, cry out algebra equations during the climax?

You joke, but I once saw a video where a guy was f***ing his girl from behind while giving a math lecture and drawing on the girl's back with dry erase markers.
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    Dathrowed1 1 day ago#51
    I don't see why people make such a big deal about this. What happened to things like freedom?
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    bobtuse posted...
    Questionmarktarius posted...
    Do they, uh, cry out algebra equations during the climax?

    You joke, but I once saw a video where a guy was f***ing his girl from behind while giving a math lecture and drawing on the girl's back with dry erase markers.

    It's just too bad our CBS Corporate Overlords won't let you share the url....
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    You see the nonsense you legitimize when you play around with this topic? All this mess coming out of the woodwork? We're not yet to a point where we can joke about this and not further contribute confusion to our understanding of human sexuality and gender.
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    Sylph 1 day ago#54
    Here is the differences as I've come to find them:

    Bisexual: Very much about the binary still, usually keeping both an ideal man and an ideal woman in their mind. Will often have specific needs from both men and women regularly, almost necessitating an open relationship status.

    Pansexual: Has an attraction to people, with attraction to various qualities which may be mix and matched in interesting ways that might avoid the social norms. Since there aren't as many specific needs, this is actually a more stable sexuality than Bisexuality to the current societal system.
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    OpheliaAdenade 1 day ago#55
    Sylph posted...
    Pansexual: Has an attraction to people, with attraction to various qualities which may be mix and matched in interesting ways that might avoid the social norms. Since there aren't as many specific needs, this is actually a more stable sexuality than Bisexuality to the current societal system.


    just sounds like a pretentious bisexual to me.
    thanosibe 1 day ago#56
    OpheliaAdenade posted...
    Sylph posted...
    Pansexual: Has an attraction to people, with attraction to various qualities which may be mix and matched in interesting ways that might avoid the social norms. Since there aren't as many specific needs, this is actually a more stable sexuality than Bisexuality to the current societal system.


    just sounds like a pretentious bisexual to me.
    It is. Male or female is the extent "various qualities" when it regards sexuality. I like gals with red hair. I married one. Am I now a redsexual? Or you know just a male attracted to women; heterosexual.
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    Sylph 1 day ago#58
    There is a difference whether you want to see it or not. Usually Bisexuals need both a man and a woman to satisfy their needs. Pansexuals tend to not need both if they find the right person.
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    DanShields 1 day ago#59
    l Dudeboy l posted...
    Actually I'm heterosexual.


    Damnit :(
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    The statement below is false
    Sylph posted...
    There is a difference whether you want to see it or not. Usually Bisexuals need both a man and a woman to satisfy their needs. Pansexuals tend to not need both if they find the right person.

    So a bisexual
    _Near_ 1 day ago#61
    Sylph posted...
    Usually Bisexuals need both a man and a woman to satisfy their needs


    This is wrong, and a very common misconception.

    Bisexual: likes women and men. Whether they are attracted to non-binary people, intersex people, or any other person who doesn't fit into the gender binary is not addressed in this term.

    Pansexual: likes everyone, regardless of gender. They are also attracted to people who do not fit into the gender binary.

    The degree to which a bisexual or a pansexual likes a specific gender varies from person to person. There's no hard and fast rule to how attracted they are to any given gender. Whether or not they want to be with multiple people is a question of monogamy or polyamory.
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    yusiko 1 day ago#62
    pansexual is bisexual for the pretentious

    they manage to be both biphobic and transphobic at the same time


    for example 

    Sylph posted...
    There is a difference whether you want to see it or not. Usually Bisexuals need both a man and a woman to satisfy their needs. Pansexuals tend to not need both if they find the right person.



    is not true at all and is basically just calling bisexuals whores who cant keep it in their pants which is a stereotype both gay people and straight people have used to treat bisexuals like s***

    a bisexual can be happy with just one person. they dont need both. 



    and as for transphobia among pansexuals. well if a man sleeps with a transgendered woman who looks like say dove cameron. that doesnt make that man suddenly not be straight

    and if a gay man sleeps with a transgendered man who looks like dylan obrien that doesnt magically make him stop being gay. 

    transgendered people just want to be treated as the gender they feel they are
    deciding that sleeping with a transgender needs a whole new sexuality is downright insulting
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    you like penis
    you like vagina
    or you like both

    not complicated
    thanosibe 1 day ago#64
    WizardPowers posted...
    you like penis
    you like vagina
    or you like both

    not complicated
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    eston 1 day ago#65
    i googled "pan goat man" to find a good picture of the mythological figure Pan to post in this topic, but the first pic was an actual statue of Pan the goat man literally having sex with a goat so now i need an adult
    yusiko posted...
    deciding that sleeping with a transgender needs a whole new sexuality is downright insulting


    It's insulting to science to claim otherwise. The feelings of a transgender doesn't change the natural biological impulses that evolved in humans. There will always be a majority of heterosexual people who aren't interested in sex acts with some who has/had the same genitalia.
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    yusiko 1 day ago#68
    DuranOfForcena posted...
    i googled "pan goat man" to find a good picture of the mythological figure Pan to post in this topic, but the first pic was an actual statue of Pan the goat man literally having sex with a goat so now i need an adult



    satyrs slept with pretty much anything they could get their hands on. 
    not as bad as centaurs though

    centaurs were known for raping human women
    makes the scene in the 5th harry potter book a lot more disturbing when they drag umbridge deeper into the forest
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    The Admiral posted...
    yusiko posted...
    deciding that sleeping with a transgender needs a whole new sexuality is downright insulting


    It's insulting to science to claim otherwise. The feelings of a transgender doesn't change the natural biological impulses that evolved in humans. There will always be a majority of heterosexual people who aren't interested in sex acts with some who has/had the same genitalia.

    He was just saying trans people are one or the other, thus making pansexuality stupid and insulting. Hold in your rants.
    OpheliaAdenade 1 day ago#71
    The Admiral posted...
    yusiko posted...
    deciding that sleeping with a transgender needs a whole new sexuality is downright insulting


    It's insulting to science to claim otherwise. The feelings of a transgender doesn't change the natural biological impulses that evolved in humans. There will always be a majority of heterosexual people who aren't interested in sex acts with some who has/had the same genitalia.


    if it looks like a duck...
    WizardPowers posted...
    you like penis
    you like vagina
    or you like both

    not complicated


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    Chicken 12 hours ago#73
    WizardPowers posted...
    you like penis
    you like vagina
    or you like both

    not complicated


    I like feminine penises
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    coolpal23 12 hours ago#74
    SlashmanSG posted...
    MakoReizei posted...
    there are only two genders. pansexual is snowflake for bisexual.
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