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Why do people care?
It's like you're specifically looking for something to attack rather than focus on the relevant. Oh wait.
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As long as it's irrelevant to the position they hold, who the f*** cares?
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Same reason we elected Donald Trump honestly. And honestly, something as harmless as believing in young earth creationism isn't a huge concern for me as long as the elected official has the sense to keep their beliefs OUT of politics and just focus on governing well.
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We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future.
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GrimCyclone posted...
We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future. Who's we? |
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To everyone saying 'Who cares?': The reason I care is because as stated in the OP I do not want people who deny the most basic of facts to hold any power. These are the people who are likely to base their entire political position around a centuries old book and nothing else. And what if these people are in charge of education? In that case, a person's beliefs do become very relevant.
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Musa- posted...
GrimCyclone posted...We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future. Young earth creationists, I suppose?
Behold my beauty!
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GrimCyclone posted...
We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future. Things have been moving left for a long time socially (economics tends to swing more). We will never go much further back to the right socially (although there may be a few small shoves, they won't be long lasting)
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CherryTsundere posted...
Musa- posted...GrimCyclone posted...We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future. Oh, in that case I have news for him. It is not the misguided Christians who will rule the earth, it's the Muslims who will. And Muslims don't believe in the 5000 year thing. |
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M_Project posted...
As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. As beliefs are what drives which bills are supported and drawn up, it's very related.
You guys hate SJWs? Blame your favorite developers for pandering to white men for the past 30 years.
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If somebody believes in YEC, maybe they also believe in other dumb things? Moreover, what if this person tries to make laws and stuff based off of YEC principles?
You guys all act like religion doesnt matter one iota but when that religion is even close to being infringed on you guys cite "deeply held" beliefs. they either matter or they dont. |
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pnut027 posted...
M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. That's like saying you like Mac more than PC. It's got nothing to do with politics.
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Airship_Canon posted...
Why do people care? Because it speaks EXTREMELY poorly of their intelligence and sanity. |
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M_Project posted...
pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. ^ Looooooooooooool. Preference =/= belief
Behold my beauty!
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I think that believing something completely nonsensical that's easily disproved by basic evidence should always be relevant to whether a politician should hold office. Young-Earth creationism is basically "Facts don't matter, only my literal interpretation of an ancient book which has a lot of parts which clearly can't be taken literally!"
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CherryTsundere posted...
M_Project posted...pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. Same thing in this context. |
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M_Project posted...
pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. You don't think that a person's beliefs drive the decisions they make in life, whether personal or professional?
You guys hate SJWs? Blame your favorite developers for pandering to white men for the past 30 years.
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M_Project posted...
CherryTsundere posted...M_Project posted...pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. It really isn't.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
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M_Project posted...
CherryTsundere posted...M_Project posted...pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. Not at all, Young earth creationism has scientifically obsolete.
Behold my beauty!
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pnut027 posted...
M_Project posted...pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. Yes, absolutely. But are we talking about people of faith in general or just YEC? |
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Isabelle-K posted...
Why do we elect politicians who believe in young-Earth creationism? Pretty simple, really. People who value blind faith over genuine evidence are easily manipulated by politicians.
"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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M_Project posted...
pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...pnut027 posted...M_Project posted...As you say it's belief. Albeit something harmless and unrelated to politics. A YEC is likely someone who holds beliefs which are counter to the scientific principles and process that humanity has made since our evolution. They may craft legislation that undermines the teaching of science and engineering that is crucial to developing a mind that may one day hold the answer to curing disease and saving humanity from the effects of living on an overpopulated, dying planet.
You guys hate SJWs? Blame your favorite developers for pandering to white men for the past 30 years.
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It says a lot more about somebody that a simple preference like PC or Mac. To be a young Earth creationist you have to be either stupid or willing to ignore facts, both of which are extremely dangerous in someone who holds power
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The whole premise of this topic is flawed.
There are those of faith. And those who have none. That's entirely separate from intellect and morality. Under Sharia Law and other theocracies, government can persecute those who do not share the same religious beliefs. And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Both cases are wrong. What matters is whether or not such policy is constitutional. That's the bottom line tbh.
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Old Earth Creationist checking in.
The real reason is many people are warped by scam artist pastors who use contradictory theories to science to keep people from critical thought and later analysis of their pastor.
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M_Project posted...
And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Uh no. Not even close.
We dont have a ranged version of MMA because that that focuses on CQC. Kooljay95 when asked why we don't have a ranged version of MMA
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impatient posted...
M_Project posted...And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Yeah. There are people out there that have survived Soviet oppression. It's all been documented. |
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Airship_Canon posted...
Why do people care? Because it's dumb. Same reason I wouldn't want a flat-earther or a homeopathist or a breatharian representing me.
It's like punching a round bottom dummy. We all know it's futile, but occasionally it's fun.
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Byuusetsu posted...
I think that believing something completely nonsensical that's easily disproved by basic evidence should always be relevant to whether a politician should hold office. Young-Earth creationism is basically "Facts don't matter, only my literal interpretation of an ancient book which has a lot of parts which clearly can't be taken literally!" But to the people that have such a problem with young-earthers. Do they also have a problem with politicians that believe we now have 60+ different genders? Because both of those are on the same page of crazy. You can't support one version of crazy but not the other. They're equally insane.
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M_Project posted...
impatient posted...M_Project posted...And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Which is how I know you're dead wrong. So, duh?
We dont have a ranged version of MMA because that that focuses on CQC. Kooljay95 when asked why we don't have a ranged version of MMA
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EternalDivide posted...
But to the people that have such a problem with young-earthers. Do they also have a problem with politicians that believe we now have 60+ different genders? Because both of those are on the same page of crazy. You can't support one version of crazy but not the other. I've never heard a politician express public support for the Tumblr-lead notion that gender is a smorgasbord of options to pick and choose from when you wake up each day. I've heard plenty of ideologues on the internet say as much, but never a politician. Should a politician express such a viewpoint, I would put them in the same basket as creationists.
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impatient posted...
M_Project posted...impatient posted...M_Project posted...And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevsektsiya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosef_Yitzchak_Schneersohn#Battling_the_Bolsheviks |
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M_Project posted...
impatient posted...M_Project posted...impatient posted...M_Project posted...And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Thank you for allowing people to ridicule your lack of reading comprehension. And unless you think the Soviet Union existed from 1918-1929 and no later than that, that's really crappy reading comprehension at best. HINT: Atheists don't worship anyone. If the state makes you worship anyone, god or man, leader or politician, it's not state atheism.
We dont have a ranged version of MMA because that that focuses on CQC. Kooljay95 when asked why we don't have a ranged version of MMA
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If someone is good at the job that they're assigned to do, they can worship a magical dwarf hamster for all I care.
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impatient posted...
M_Project posted...impatient posted...M_Project posted...impatient posted...M_Project posted...And under the Soviet Union, it was their official ideology to eliminate religion with the goal of establishing state atheism. Religion was outlawed. What's that called? |
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Isabelle-K posted...
To everyone saying 'Who cares?': The reason I care is because as stated in the OP I do not want people who deny the most basic of facts to hold any power. These are the people who are likely to base their entire political position around a centuries old book and nothing else. And what if these people are in charge of education? In that case, a person's beliefs do become very relevant. The great irony in this statement is that you are the one missing facts and can't see truth right in front of your face. You're using a classic logical fallacy of appeal to novelty. Just because the Bible is old doesn't make it wrong. Try reading it through, then try looking into the history around it and supporting facts from non-Christians. I'm sure you've done neither of those - keep up the internet trolling though - it's a marketable skill. |
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Of course the Bible isn't wrong because it's old. It's just plain wrong. We can tell this from a documented historical perspective (e.g. the sort of taxation practices described in the story of the nativity were never practiced in the Roman Empire), and the vast empirical evidence that has been collected in support of scientific perspectives that contradict its claims (the geological record shows no global flood, evolution, etc.).
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People say "WHO CARES?!"
The problem is they're denying the evidence in favor of personal bias. Which means they'll deny evidence in favor of personal evidence while governing. Which is a dangerous position. That's why ti's such a problem. Do you really want someone controlling government that won't accept evidence that doesn't go along with what they already believe?
This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes!
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Dancedreamer posted...
People say "WHO CARES?!" Exactly. That sort of outlook is incredibly dangerous, and it's scary to think such people have powerful positions in our government. |
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GrimCyclone posted...
We will always defeat you, hivebent. We've done it in human history and we will do it in human future. wtf are you smoking
"The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma
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wolverinerob79 posted...
Isabelle-K posted...To everyone saying 'Who cares?': The reason I care is because as stated in the OP I do not want people who deny the most basic of facts to hold any power. These are the people who are likely to base their entire political position around a centuries old book and nothing else. And what if these people are in charge of education? In that case, a person's beliefs do become very relevant. I've read enough of the Bible and done enough research to know that things such as the flood described in Noah's Ark are scientifically impossible
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They have dated back the Australian aborigines as far as 50,000 years. Man is that a long time. Those guys know something.
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