Three people carrying Jewish Pride flags were asked to leave the annual Chicago Dyke March on Saturday.
The Chicago-based LGBTQ newspaper Windy City Times quoted a Dyke March collective member as saying the rainbow flag with the Star of David in the middle "made people feel unsafe," and that the march was "pro-Palestinian" and "anti-Zionist." The Chicago Dyke March is billed as an "anti-racist, anti-violent, volunteer-led, grassroots mobilization and celebration of dyke, queer, bisexual, and transgender resilience," according to its Twitter account. Laurel Grauer, a member of the Jewish LGBTQ organization A Wider Bridge, told the Windy City Times "it was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity which I have done for over a decade marching in the Dyke March with the same flag." "They were telling me to leave because my flag was a trigger to people that they found offensive," she added. Another participant asked to leave because of a Jewish flag was Eleanor Shoshany-Anderson. "The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don't know why my identity is excluded from that. I felt that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here," she told the Windy City Times. http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797650 The Left continues to implode. |
Gonna need a better source and images of the flags.
Also LGBT automatically = left now? |
Does Palestine even have a pro-LGBT movement?
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Sojy posted...
Gonna need a better source and images of the flags. No. Pride automatically = left, ever since they started banning Trump supporters and marching in favor of Sharia Law. |
Lol if you are gay in Palestine they will kill you, but in Israel you will be left alone yet its Israel's flag that can't be displayed.
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EuroKnight23 posted...
Sojy posted...Gonna need a better source and images of the flags. You're right, that is a problem. LGBT+ people should be against both Trump supporters and Sharia law (not that I believe any of them were actually marching in favour of it). Also, anti-Israel is not automatically anti-Jewish
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EuroKnight23 posted...
Sojy posted...Gonna need a better source and images of the flags. Plenty of conservatives hate Trump supporters and Sharia Law is conservative. |
Not surprising Stormfoot calls it a "Jew flag".
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Gryffindor1 posted...
Not surprising Stormfoot calls it a "Jew flag". There was no room left in the topic title to type Jewish or Israeli. |
"LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!"
Immediately less clickbait title. |
Sojy posted...
"LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" But it's not an Israeli flag... It's an LGBT flag with a Star of David on it. |
Madfoot must be so torn. Two groups he hates openly seem to be at odds with each other. But who to choose?
Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again! |
Jew isn't really that bad a word.... Also no one is going to point out the irony? Excluding other gays based on religion? The "tolerant left". Aren't you normal liberals ashamed of this shit yet?
Blue lives matter
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Gryffindor1 posted...
Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" I mean if the colors were different it would be an Israeli flag. But idk how I feel about it.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" It's a rainbow flag... it has like every color in it. |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" Point being it has the star of david in exactly the same place and size as an Israeli flag.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" Israel flags also feature the Star of David. There is really no way to tell which is being represented at first glance. It's like how nobody knows if you're spreading Nazi propaganda or not when you display the Swastika. |
SaikyoStyle posted...
Madfoot must be so torn. Two groups he hates openly seem to be at odds with each other. But who to choose? The one that triggers libs more of course. |
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" So the solution is just to throw them out regardless. |
Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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Sojy posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" It's hypocritical either way as the LGBT parade is supposed to be inclusive and here they are kicking people out who they don't consider to be "one of them". |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Sojy posted...Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted..."LGBT Pride to Chicago: We're pro-Palestinian, no Israeli flags allowed!" Do you think the irony is lost on them?
Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again! |
Nitro378 posted...
Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts. So you don't support throwing them out? In the article the girl says it's from her congregation that supports her being a gay Jew. A congregation full of Jews. Who use the Star of David. The pride organizers didn't even apologize. |
You guys, it was obviously a sheriff's badge. Cops for LGBT rights, am I right?
www.elca.org/en/Faith/Faith-and-Society/Social-Statements/Caring-for-Creation
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Iynxor posted...
You guys, it was obviously a sheriff's badge. Cops for LGBT rights, am I right? XD |
So one person takes issue to the flag and the homophobic bigot that is the TC claims this person (who nobody here ever heard of before) speaks for all of the LGBT rights movement and "the Left."
Also a reminder that he doesn't give a fuck about Jews as he posts anti-Semitic caricatures: https://web.archive.org/web/20170520215425/https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1031-make-america-great-again/75365993 Silly Nazi, you done fucked up in your concern trolling because you just couldn't help yourself from slandering Jews. Sojy posted... Gonna need a better source and images of the flags. This nazi fuck is out to demonize and destroy both groups, so of course. The LGBT activist who said this could be self-professed far right and the TC would still make this exact same topic.
"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
- Thomas Jefferson, writing on the subject of religion |
Here is the individual who was removed for their flag choice: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797845
Here is the individual's work summary: http://www.haaretz.com/misc/writers/laurel-grauer-1.797847 Laurel Grauer is the Midwest Manager of A Wider Bridge, the LGBTQ organization advancing support for Israel and LGBTQ Israelis. Yeah, it totally wasn't an Israeli flag. |
How tolerant. Also, Jewish voters who care about Israel need to wake up and realize that the Left is becoming extremely hostile to them.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?" |
I changed my mind, yes she shouldv'e been kicked out.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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TheHonorableOne posted...
How tolerant. Also, Jewish voters who care about Israel need to wake up and realize that the Left is becoming extremely hostile to them. The majority of Americans are hostile towards Israel.
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Sojy posted...
Here is the individual who was removed for their flag choice: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797845 As others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. There needs to be a political purity test to be gay now? Not to mention that the flag "made people feel unsafe" and "triggered" some people, really? |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Sojy posted...Here is the individual who was removed for their flag choice: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797845 I think the believe unsafe is a magic word.
Blue lives matter
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Gryffindor1 posted...
Sojy posted...Here is the individual who was removed for their flag choice: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797845 Why would they support a nation who practices apartheid?
Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
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Gryffindor1 posted...
As others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. No it isn't, Pride is inherently political. The organisers can kick out whoever they want.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 |
TonyKojima posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Sojy posted...Here is the individual who was removed for their flag choice: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797845 Why would they support a culture that routinely kills and oppresses gay people? Argument can go either way. Point is, there is no political purity test to be gay. |
That's incredibly anti-semetic, this is what Neo Nazis would say.
"In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon
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Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...As others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. So should two gay Jews who support Israel not be allowed to marry and have equal rights? Since that is what pride parades are marching for. |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...As others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. Sure, course they should, but there's no reason they should inherently be allowed to bring their support of Israel into LGBT spaces either.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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Sojy posted...
Gonna need a better source and images of the flags. I don't get why TC needs to bring up "the left".
Even if you live forty or fifty years in this world, and then die, you cannot take all your goods with you. -- Red Cloud
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Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...As others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. So they don't have a right to protest? |
At their own event? Sure...
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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OffDogs posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Also, as others have said, it's hypocritical to kick them out. Not to mention that the flag "made people feel unsafe" and "triggered" some people, really? Yeah, people like that are really annoying snowflakes who need to grow some thicker skin, huh? Oh...
"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
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Nitro378 posted...
At their own event? Sure... And would you support their calls for equality and gay marriage? |
What does that have to do with anything? A march is not a service.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...At their own event? Sure... Not at that event, no.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 |
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...At their own event? Sure... So then you're not acutally pro-LGBT rights. You're a fraud. |
Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...At their own event? Sure... I wouldn't support a 'Gay rights and Zionism' march, think what you want.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 |
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...At their own event? Sure... But you said before gay Jewish Israel supports should be able to get married and have equal rights. Then you said you wouldn't support them in their quest for that. You're a fraud. |
There is no specific 'struggle for gay zionists to get married', they got that right through the same LGBT movement as everyone else. You're being hysterical.
Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
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Nitro378 posted...
There is no specific 'struggle for gay zionists to get married', they got that right through the same LGBT movement as everyone else. You're being hysterical. A movement you are saying they shouldn't be allowed to participate in. |
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- LGBT Pride to Chicago: We are a pro-Palestinian movement. No Jew flags Allowed!
Sure they can participate but not by bringing their unrelated issue into it when most gay people oppose it.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3OffDogs posted...Jew isn't really that bad a word.... Also no one is going to point out the irony? Excluding other gays based on religion? The "tolerant left". Aren't you normal liberals ashamed of this shit yet?
I find a bigger irony in LGBT being pro-Palestine even though homosexuality is punishable there.Nitro378 posted...Sure they can participate but not by bringing their unrelated issue into it when most gay people oppose it.
lolwutNitro378 posted...Sure they can participate but not by bringing their unrelated issue into it when most gay people oppose it.
What unrelated issue? A gay Jewish supporter of Israel can't show pride in being Jewish and gay? Was the girl who was kicked out have a sign that said something about Israel? Was she chanting pro-Israel chants? The organizers specifically say the reason they kicked her out was the flag made people feel "unsafe" and "triggered" them. Both ridiculous excuses, they said nothing about her doing something pro-Israel.
https://flagspot.net/images/q/qq-rb-m1.gif
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gundamonroblox/images/c/ce/LGBT_Christian_Pride_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20141023000025
https://flagspot.net/images/i/il_gaymd.gif
They're all very similar. White religious symbols in the center of the flag.EuroKnight23 posted...Nitro378 posted...
Sure they can participate but not by bringing their unrelated issue into it when most gay people oppose it.
lolwut
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That's irrelevant to the point though, the organisers were against it and that's enough.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Funny, I've been gay for as long as I can remember and I don't remember "pro-Palestine" ever having anything to do with my fondness for dudes.
My personal opinion on the issue is that there are dipshits on both sides of that conflict, but Israel shouldn't get unconditional approval in all things from the US just because we have a bunch of religious nuts who say they should."It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
- Thomas Jefferson, writing on the subject of religionNitro378 posted...Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.EuroKnight23 posted...Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56TonyKojima posted...EuroKnight23 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?
Why would they support a culture that kills and oppresses gay people?Gryffindor1 posted...TonyKojima posted...
EuroKnight23 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?
Why would they support a culture that kills and oppresses gay people?
Palestine doesn't.Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56Gryffindor1 posted...They're all very similar. White religious symbols in the center of the flag.
There's no state that has a cross scaled like that in the middle of their flag, and hell maybe a Turkish nationalist would get kicked out I don't know.
Gryffindor1 posted...Was the girl who was kicked out have a sign that said something about Israel? Was she chanting pro-Israel chants? The organizers specifically say the reason they kicked her out was the flag made people feel "unsafe" and "triggered" them.
The implication is pretty obvious especially when they said the march was pro-Palestine and not pro-Israel, you know what they meant, you're just being silly now. The woman was a known Zionist campaigner.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3The Left continues to implode.
That makes no sense given that pro-palestine groups are generally more found on the left.
Do you literally don't know anything at all?Behold my beauty!Hurf durf I just said none scaled like that, I know about a billion countries have a Christian cross on their flag including mine. That's nothing to do with the point I was making.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Itoldyaso posted...Does Palestine even have a pro-LGBT movement?
Homosexuality is outlawed in Palestine."Another visitor! Stay a while! Stay forever!"TonyKojima posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
TonyKojima posted...
EuroKnight23 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?
Why would they support a culture that kills and oppresses gay people?
Palestine doesn't.
Oh really? Lol.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3211772.stm
Apparently gay Palestinians feel safer under "apartheid" than they do under Palestinian culture. And that's from 2003, before Hamas took over Gaza.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/world/middleeast/hamas-commander-mahmoud-ishtiwi-killed-palestine.html
Accused of being gay is a death sentence.Gryffindor1 posted...TonyKojima posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
TonyKojima posted...
EuroKnight23 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?
Why would they support a culture that kills and oppresses gay people?
Palestine doesn't.
Oh really? Lol.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3211772.stm
Apparently gay Palestinians feel safer under "apartheid" than they do under Palestinian culture. And that's from 2003, before Hamas took over Gaza. I think I remember Hamas saying they have no gay people in Gaza.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/world/middleeast/hamas-commander-mahmoud-ishtiwi-killed-palestine.html
Accused of being gay is a death sentence.
So an outlier incident? ok lolThough the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56TonyKojima posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
TonyKojima posted...
EuroKnight23 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Why would they support apartheid?
Why would they support a culture that kills and oppresses gay people?
Palestine doesn't.
Oh really? Lol.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3211772.stm
Apparently gay Palestinians feel safer under "apartheid" than they do under Palestinian culture. And that's from 2003, before Hamas took over Gaza. I think I remember Hamas saying they have no gay people in Gaza.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/world/middleeast/hamas-commander-mahmoud-ishtiwi-killed-palestine.html
Accused of being gay is a death sentence.
So an outlier incident? ok lol
Moving that goalpost.Yeah and that's terrible, and if it weren't for the Israeli occupation maybe gay people would campaign about that but Zionism is the greater evil, frankly, in terms of the number of people killed or oppressed.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3TonyKojima posted...The majority of Americans are hostile towards Israel.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
You are SOOO full of it, it's the opposite way around.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
The majority of Americans are hostile towards Israel.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
You are SOOO full of it, it's the opposite way around.
Ah our resident Islamophobe.Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56TonyKojima posted...Why would they support a nation who practices apartheid?
Why do you support a nation that is Anti-LGBTQAI+?Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'TonyKojima posted...Ah our resident Islamophobe.
Ah, our Resident Western Countries Hater, perennial liar, and hypocrite.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
Why would they support a nation who practices apartheid?
Why do you support a nation that is Anti-LGBTQAI+?
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
Why would they support a nation who practices apartheid?
Why do you support a nation that is Anti-LGBTQAI+?
Why don't you ask the protestors?Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56OffDogs posted...Jew isn't really that bad a word.... Also no one is going to point out the irony? Excluding other gays based on religion? The "tolerant left". Aren't you normal liberals ashamed of this shit yet?
I'll wait for a real source, not some trashy, tabloid rag like Haaretz.
But I wouldn't expect someone with a sig like yours to be overly critical of tabloid sources.\m/ RIP Ronnie James Dio, July 1942-May 2010. I hope you enjoyed your unparalleled musicianship while it lasted (all 67 years, dude). \m/TonyKojima posted...Palestine doesn't.
Palestinian gays flee to Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3211772.stm\
Why would Gay Palestinians flee to Israel then? It's because they feel safer amongst Israeli who are more tolerant than the Palestinians for LGBTQAI+ people.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
Palestine doesn't.
Palestinian gays flee to Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3211772.stm\
Why would Gay Palestinians flee to Israel then? It's because they feel safer amongst Israeli who are more tolerant than the Palestinians for LGBTQAI+ people.
So you support apartheid? Not surprising given you're an Islamophobe.Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56Nitro378 posted...I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'EuroKnight23 posted...No. Pride automatically = left, ever since they started banning Trump supporters and marching in favor of Sharia Law.
Gonna need a source on that one,The internet, where people come to be a dumbass.Nitro378 posted...Yeah and that's terrible, and if it weren't for the Israeli occupation maybe gay people would campaign about that but Zionism is the greater evil, frankly, in terms of the number of people killed or oppressed.
Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously? There's 2 billion Muslims in the world. Around 10% of people on earth are gay. Which means hundreds of millions of gays are oppressed in the Muslim world, thousands routinely killed. Gay people can't even be openly gay in the Muslim world.KamenRiderBlade posted...Nitro378 posted...
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.
They are defending themselves from Israeli incursions.Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56TonyKojima posted...So you support apartheid? Not surprising given you're an Islamophobe.
So you support throwing Gay people off of roof's, not surprising give your hypocrisy.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'TonyKojima posted...They are defending themselves from Israeli incursions
They are defending themselves from Palestinian Terrorism.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
So you support apartheid? Not surprising given you're an Islamophobe.
So you support throwing Gay people off of roof's, not surprising give your hypocrisy.
Your concession is noted as usual.Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56KamenRiderBlade posted...Nitro378 posted...
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.
You are pretty ignorant for someone that frequents a politics board...The internet, where people come to be a dumbass.TonyKojima posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nitro378 posted...
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.
They are defending themselves from Israeli incursions.
Don't change the subject because you can't find a way around gay Palestinians rather living in Israel than the Palestinian territories.TonyKojima posted...Your concession is noted as usual.
You don't get to put words in other people's mouths.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'ArabrockermanX posted...You are pretty ignorant for someone that frequents a politics board...
http://www.thomaswictor.com/the-lies-of-amnesty-international/
You are easily bamboozled by liberal media.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'Gryffindor1 posted...TonyKojima posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nitro378 posted...
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.
They are defending themselves from Israeli incursions.
Don't change the subject because you can't find a way around gay Palestinians rather living in Israel than the Palestinian territories.
You're the one who just changed the fucking subject.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3The fuck is going on in this thread.
Madfoot you fucking maniac.Behold my beauty!Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
TonyKojima posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nitro378 posted...
I support it not being enslaved by Israel.
I support Israel's right to not be attacked / terrorized / maligned by Palestine and all the Anti-Semites out there.
They are defending themselves from Israeli incursions.
Don't change the subject because you can't find a way around gay Palestinians rather living in Israel than the Palestinian territories.
You're the one who just changed the fucking subject.
I'm keeping the subject on gay rights, not the Arab-Israeli conflict in general.Madfoot, stop following me on your different accounts please.Gryffindor1 posted...Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously?
I said Palestine. Yes obviously it's terrible the persecution gay people are under in many Islamic countries, but that's not an international issue in the sense that there's nothing the international community can really do, and furthermore, you don't have many people primarily loyal to say Afghanistan high up in the American establishment.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Gryffindor1 posted...Madfoot, stop following me on your different accounts please.
Lmao!Behold my beauty!TonyKojima posted...Why don't you ask the protestors?
I know why they do it, they're easily fooled by whatever liberal media cons them into.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...TonyKojima posted...
Why don't you ask the protestors?
I know why they do it, they're easily fooled by whatever liberal media cons them into.
lolThough the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously?
I said Palestine. Yes obviously it's terrible the persecution gay people are under in many Islamic countries, but that's not an international issue in the sense that there's nothing the international community can really do, and furthermore, you don't have many people primarily loyal to say Afghanistan high up in the American establishment.
The international community can't put sanctions on them for their treatment of gays?EuroKnight23 posted...Nitro378 posted...
Clearly, there wasn't some outpouring of support when they got kicked out of the march. I suppose I can't state categorically that most gay people oppose Israel but anecdotally I think they're more likely to oppose it than support it.
That makes absolutely no sense, why would LGBT people be opposed to the state of Israel? They're the most progressive, tolerant nation in the Middle East.
Yeah, they're so "tolerant" of the Palestinians. That's a good one.Even if you live forty or fifty years in this world, and then die, you cannot take all your goods with you. -- Red CloudGryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously?
I said Palestine. Yes obviously it's terrible the persecution gay people are under in many Islamic countries, but that's not an international issue in the sense that there's nothing the international community can really do, and furthermore, you don't have many people primarily loyal to say Afghanistan high up in the American establishment.
The international community can't put sanctions on them for their treatment of gays?
Half of them are fucking sanctioned already anyway. Maybe they should, but that's not really what sanctions are intended for, they're for international conflicts ie. one country threatening another. Of course they're rarely implemented like that but whatever. The best way to achieve gay rights in the Islamic world is to facilitate their countries' development into stable societies that are more conductive to liberalism.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3- Boards
- Politics
- LGBT Pride to Chicago: We are a pro-Palestinian movement. No Jew flags Allowed!
Since when do you care about Jews? We all know your opinion of them.Shit, that could be a response to anyone in this thread :^)Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously?
I said Palestine. Yes obviously it's terrible the persecution gay people are under in many Islamic countries, but that's not an international issue in the sense that there's nothing the international community can really do, and furthermore, you don't have many people primarily loyal to say Afghanistan high up in the American establishment.
The international community can't put sanctions on them for their treatment of gays?
Half of them are fucking sanctioned already anyway. Maybe they should, but that's not really what sanctions are intended for, they're for international conflicts ie. one country threatening another. Of course they're rarely implemented like that but whatever. The best way to achieve gay rights in the Islamic world is to facilitate their countries' development into stable societies that are more conductive to liberalism.
Wouldn't that be imperialism/orientalism? Saying their culture is inferior and we need to instill ours on them for their betterment?http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/06/04/the-global-divide-on-homosexuality/
The vast majority of the Muslim countries don't support LGBTQAI+ folks
Just look at the poll results if you don't believe in the reality out there.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'Gryffindor1 posted...Wouldn't that be imperialism/orientalism? Saying their culture is inferior and we need to instill ours on them for their betterment?
I don't care about that stuff, culture is transient. I'm not much of a fan of modern western culture either.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Gryffindor1 posted...I'm for real. It's creepy.
You don't get to choose your followers, the followers will always choose you.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'Gryffindor1 posted...Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
At their own event? Sure...
And would you support their calls for equality and gay marriage?
Not at that event, no.
So then you're not acutally pro-LGBT rights. You're a fraud.
No no no. Im assuming it wasn't a public event? That's the big factor here. If it was then no they had no right to toss them but if not then yes it's their right to allow who they want. Either way it's super hypocritical though.Blue lives matter
Proud trump voter, defund evergreen state collegeOffDogs posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
At their own event? Sure...
And would you support their calls for equality and gay marriage?
Not at that event, no.
So then you're not acutally pro-LGBT rights. You're a fraud.
No no no. Im assuming it wasn't a public event? That's the big factor here. If it was then no they had no right to toss them but if not then yes it's their right to allow who they want. Either way it's super hypocritical though.
It was a march down the streets of Chicago. It was a public event. It wasn't a closed meeting or anything.KamenRiderBlade posted...ArabrockermanX posted...
You are pretty ignorant for someone that frequents a politics board...
http://www.thomaswictor.com/the-lies-of-amnesty-international/
You are easily bamboozled by liberal media.
Holy shit he did it, he proved me right with his own post. You cited a bigoted blog to defend yourself, thank you for proving my point.
Also, I have an unhealthy distaste for the media and "liberal" is the wrong word to describe them.The internet, where people come to be a dumbass.ArabrockermanX posted...Holy shit he did it, he proved me right with his own post. You cited a bigoted blog to defend yourself, thank you for proving my point.
So everything that opposes your own world view is "Bigoted".
Also, I have an unhealthy distaste for the media and "liberal" is the wrong word to describe them.
Talk about being "Small Minded" & Anti-SemiticAre you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'KamenRiderBlade posted...ArabrockermanX posted...
Holy shit he did it, he proved me right with his own post. You cited a bigoted blog to defend yourself, thank you for proving my point.
So everything that opposes your own world view is "Bigoted".
Also, I have an unhealthy distaste for the media and "liberal" is the wrong word to describe them.
Talk about being "Small Minded" & Anti-Semitic
"Tolerate my intolerance!!"Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima
PSN - Guncrazy56TonyKojima posted..."Tolerate my intolerance!!"
This coming from the person who is intolerant to his own countryman and only tolerant to the intolerant people out there.Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'TonyKojima posted...KamenRiderBlade posted...
ArabrockermanX posted...
Holy shit he did it, he proved me right with his own post. You cited a bigoted blog to defend yourself, thank you for proving my point.
So everything that opposes your own world view is "Bigoted".
Also, I have an unhealthy distaste for the media and "liberal" is the wrong word to describe them.
Talk about being "Small Minded" & Anti-Semitic
"Tolerate my intolerance!!"
I actually do tolerate them, but that doesn't stop me from calling a spade a spade...
EDIT: Good to see he still doesn't realize what Semitic means...The internet, where people come to be a dumbass.Just when I thought Madfoot couldn't get anymore cringeworthy, he starts stalking people."It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
- Thomas Jefferson, writing on the subject of religionArabrockermanX posted...EDIT: Good to see he still doesn't realize what Semitic means...
Why do you keep maligning Israel and the Jewish folk who live there?Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'ArabrockermanX posted...EuroKnight23 posted...
No. Pride automatically = left, ever since they started banning Trump supporters and marching in favor of Sharia Law.
Gonna need a source on that one,
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/08/a-gays-for-trump-group-is-furious-after-being-excluded-from-an-lgbt-pride-march/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/10/gays-sharia-march-branded-islamophobic-will-picketed-lgbt-activists/I wonder if Nitro and TonyKojima are actually gay or if they're just using this to facilitate their own opinions on Jews? Hmmm...
Guess what, I'm gay and the only fucking country in the Middle East I'd actually feel safe in is Israel. Any sane gay person should second that.The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.Liberal loonies turning on each other. Love it.superXY posted...I wonder if Nitro and TonyKojima are actually gay or if they're just using this to facilitate their own opinions on Jews? Hmmm...
Guess what, I'm gay and the only fucking country in the Middle East I'd actually feel safe in is Israel. Any sane gay person should second that.
Nitro most likely is, there is no reason for him to lie.
Tony however is a fucking troll, so take literally everything he says with a grain of salt.Behold my beauty!Sounds more like a LGBT Wrath parade.Start me, bench ForteMinotaur92 posted...Liberal loonies turning on each other. Love it.
Unquestioned loyalty isn't a liberal trait, sadly.
:^)Behold my beauty!I'm bisexual, and I wouldn't go to any country in the middle-east.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3I dislike much of Israel's current political establishment due to a bunch of geopolitical horse shit that has more to do with the United States and with Saudi Arabia than with Israel itself, but I don't see what's so bad about someone incorporating one's Jewish faith or other aspects of one's culture and identity into their being gay, lesbian, transgender, or whatever else?
There is nothing inherently "Israeli" or "Zionist" about a Star of David plastered onto a rainbow flag that would justify this sort of idiocy from anyone involved in PRIDE.
If anything, this sort of behaviour can reasonably be perceived as crass antisemitism and give AIPAC and the Israeli lobby faction of the military-industrial complex cover against valid criticism of Israeli foreign policy, of revisionist "Zionism", and of the relationship between the United States and Israel and the collective role that these factors play in the dubious foreign policy decisions made by the United States and some of its allies.Bustin' Justin makes us feel good!Nitro378 posted...I'm bisexual, and I wouldn't go to any country in the middle-east.
So, that's why the Bi-Fi signal was so strong in here, I knew it couldn't be only me.Behold my beauty!Haha. I broke up with my boyfriend a few months ago, trying to get back out there.Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3Nitro378 posted...Haha. I broke up with my boyfriend a few months ago, trying to get back out there.
When it comes to stuff like that, I'm still at the starting line, lol.Behold my beauty!Aww. Try online dating!Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3I will never understand why "zionist" is such a dirty word when Israel has Muslim citizens (with equal rights for all citizens) and Muslim members of their parliament, and Palestine has twice elected a government with an open public policy of the global eradication of all Jews.
Nitro378 posted...Haha. I broke up with my boyfriend a few months ago, trying to get back out there.
Wow you're gay?KamenRiderBlade posted...ArabrockermanX posted...
EDIT: Good to see he still doesn't realize what Semitic means...
Why do you keep maligning Israel and the Jewish folk who live there?
Citation needed mate.
EuroKnight23 posted...ArabrockermanX posted...
EuroKnight23 posted...
No. Pride automatically = left, ever since they started banning Trump supporters and marching in favor of Sharia Law.
Gonna need a source on that one,
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/08/a-gays-for-trump-group-is-furious-after-being-excluded-from-an-lgbt-pride-march/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/10/gays-sharia-march-branded-islamophobic-will-picketed-lgbt-activists/
That's not pro-Sharia though, your title was misleading and it leaves me saddened that something that hilarious didn't happen. But still a bit funny to have LGBT trying to include Muslims under their flag, that's a one sided relationship there :oThe internet, where people come to be a dumbass.Amatsukaze posted...Wow you're gay?
No but my boyfriend was :^)Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA
Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3ArabrockermanX posted...Citation needed mate.
Are you Pro Israel / Palestine.
Which side do you stand?Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'*reads through entire topic*
This is why I don't go to pride parades.This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic.What's so silly is isreal is the most inclusive nation in the middle East. They are the only one with a gay pride parade. But it's not necessarily the gay community's fault. BLM activists have begin taking over and poisoning groups like this.Blue lives matter
Proud trump voter, defund evergreen state collegeLinksLiege posted...*reads through entire topic*
This is why I don't go to pride parades.
A coworker of mine went to Chicago gay pride parade, basically got raped by a guy who wouldn't take stop for an answer. It wasn't so much the sex he objected to, it was the biting. The poor bastard looked like an entire high school homecoming dance's worth of hickies localized on one neck.He who laughs last, thinks fastest.Hey look Bsballa's back.Nitro378 posted...Aww. Try online dating!
I proably will, first I gotta turn my life around, though.Behold my beauty!Nitro378 posted...Gryffindor1 posted...
Nitro378 posted...
Gryffindor1 posted...
Wait, so you're saying Israel is worse towards Palestinians than the entire Middle Easts attitudes towards gays? Seriously?
I said Palestine. Yes obviously it's terrible the persecution gay people are under in many Islamic countries, but that's not an international issue in the sense that there's nothing the international community can really do, and furthermore, you don't have many people primarily loyal to say Afghanistan high up in the American establishment.
The international community can't put sanctions on them for their treatment of gays?
Half of them are fucking sanctioned already anyway. Maybe they should, but that's not really what sanctions are intended for, they're for international conflicts ie. one country threatening another. Of course they're rarely implemented like that but whatever. The best way to achieve gay rights in the Islamic world is to facilitate their countries' development into stable societies that are more conductive to liberalism.
Considering the extent to which American and British policy decisions have allowed the fundamentalist establishments in Riyadh and Tehran to flourish and become conflicting poles of reactionary influence among ordinary Muslims that the global elite have intentionally kept poor and uneducated as a means of social and economic control...
The United States, the United Kingdom, Israel, and their NATO allies have propped up, among others, the Al-Saud Crime Family, Hosni Mubarak (who's not an Islamist but still an awful military dictatorship who presided over rampant inequality and relatively low levels of literacy and educational attainment among ordinary Egyptians), Afghanistan's Mujahideen, and Pakistan's Islamist military dictatorship of General Mohammed Xia ul-Haq, who presided over both the education of the Taliban within Pakistan's borders and the passage of the fundamentalist Hudood Laws, which has caused Pakistan to become a de facto theocracy.
As for Iran, liberals and socialists there have combined as a majority for generations, and it was 1950s intervention against the country's democratically elected government on the part of the British and the Americans that stifled an emerging local evolution towards liberal democracy and towards laws, structures, and institutions oriented towards secularism and towards social and economic justice.
It's easy to have rampant extremism and antisemitism when there's a pool of millions of poor, uneducated Muslims that far-right Salafi charlatans can easily manipulate into a sort of Orwellian 10 minute hate against Jews, Christians, liberals, Westerners, and anything else that the billionaires in Al Qaeda and the Saudi clerical establishments benefit from having ordinary Muslims hate.
Starting under Khrushchev and continuing under the Brezhnev, the Soviet Union after Stalin was so banal that you have to be an idiot to argue that Soviet communism of the time was anywhere near as bad as Islamic extremism and that its destruction was worth this exorbitant price.
The superior productivity west of the Berlin wall and the liberalizing forces released there by the New Left and the sexual revolution would have done the Kremlin in anyways, if that's what helped you sleep at night.Bustin' Justin makes us feel good!
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