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Friday, July 28, 2017

It doesn't matter how much the food costs. Always tip 20%

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Anisoptera 1 day ago#1
CADE FOSTER 1 day ago#2
I mean that is uncool. Unless the service is horrible, leaving less than 15% isn't right. I generally always leave close to 20 too unless it's real bad.
scorpion41 1 day ago#4
Or don't work in the service industry if you're unhappy with the tipping. Entitled little wench...
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People like that make me want to tip less tbh
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lob_city_3 1 day ago#6
Be happy with 15%

Most servers aren't worth that
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Wetterdew 1 day ago#7
If you order a $45 dish, there's no need to tip 15% if the waiter did the same amount of work it takes to bring you a $8 dish.
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Link43130 1 day ago#8
its weird, i always see servers complaining about low tips but i never see them talk about how happy big tips make them, except when it's crazy like 80 bucks on a 20 dollar order or something else ridiculous like that
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I always tip no matter what. In fact, it's part of my method.

Behold:

The S.H.I.N.O.B.I. Method

My method makes the assumption that you have already met a woman and have her number, which I feel is the easy part because it can just be a girl you matched with through online dating or met in a group project or something. Anyway:

1. S - Send Vague Text Responses
Girls eat this s*** up. Don't give her any definite responses or make her feel like she's worth any more time than a text message. If you are too much of a "nice guy" then normally the girl gets turned off, but you can't be a dick either. You need to be aloof; this girl KNOWS she can pull a thousand guys on Tinder in fifteen minutes, but if you aren't acting thirsty it will instantly elevate you above them.

2. H - Have Her Meet You For Dinner at Olive Garden
Olive Garden is the perfect casual dining experience. It is nice enough that it will feel like an actual date, but not too nice that your date is intimidated. It also offers ample parking. Make sure that you drive separately; this is important later on.

3. I - Indicate That You Would Like a Round of Breadsticks for the Table
As soon as the waitress attends to your table, order a round of Breadsticks. The Breadsticks are not only free, but they are unlimited, and that will be key here. As many of you know, I am a huge Amiibo collector, so I find it important to let the waitress know right away that you want the Breadsticks, as there will not be any wasted time.

4. N - Never Let the Waitress See You Taking Breadsticks Out of the Restaurant
Once your have received your basket of Breadsticks, you may empty them all out into your jacket pockets, but as this is uncomfortable, you will want to make sure you take trips to your car periodically to unload. This is where it becomes key that you drove to the restaurant separately. Make sure the wait staff does not see you leaving to unload either, or they will kick you out (has happened to me on rare occasions).

5. O - Order More Breadsticks
As soon as the waitress comes back, say "nummy nummy, breadsticks in me tummy, yummy yummy, more more!" or something to that nature. The waitress will think you are a big fat f*** and likely go back to provide more, as Olive Garden provides these Breadsticks for free and the restaurants are insured for thousands anyway (so they aren't taking a financial hit from the Breastick losses).

6. B - Bring a Trash Bag to Store Breadsticks
This part is key. You can only go out to your car so many times before you begin to rouse suspicion. I like to use the "Oh, I left my dog chained outside of the restaurant, better bring him water this time!" or "Methinks I have left my child in the hot car! Daddy's coming!" However, too many trips will start to get you looks, so bring a trash bag to fill up with Breadsticks (under your table).

7. I - Immediately Leave the Restaurant After Your Bag is Full
Once the bag is full, you can no longer unload in your car, so it is time to leave. If you have done this correctly, your bill will be $0.00 and you will have a car loaded with warm, garlic and parmesan covered baked goods.

From there, you can use these Breadsticks to make sandwiches for the month. I hope this advice helps some of you CEmen, because I know dating is hard and it's sometimes nerve wracking knowing how to behave on a first date.
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the_cajun88 20 hours ago#10
With service is fine - but if I'm picking up the food and taking it with me, I'm not tipping anything.
TheDarkCircle 20 hours ago#11
the_cajun88 posted...
With service is fine - but if I'm picking up the food and taking it with me, I'm not tipping anything.


Same. Once in a while I might leave a few bucks if someone goes above and beyond when I pick up.

For example, I ordered lunch one time for pick up and asked for them to throw in some bread with it. The guy on the phone said it'd be 2 dollars extra for bread so I said forget it. When I came to get it, he told me he threw it in for free. So I gave him the 2 bucks as a tip. But otherwise yeah no.
LittleRoyal 20 hours ago#12
If you're gonna be a b**** about it and whine like crazy I wouldn't really tip you.

Like sure she probably deserved more but don't whine about it to everyone it's not like you're entitled to it and at least you just made $15 you stingy f***

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Aeriis 19 hours ago#13
As a server, expecting 20% is insane. I'm happy with 15%. A lot of people I work with complain but we all end up making 15 dollars an hour in a state where the minimum wage is 7.25.
thanosibe 19 hours ago#14
Why does tipping trigger CE so much?
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Anisoptera 19 hours ago#15
thanosibe posted...
Why does tipping trigger CE so much?


A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant so they know the struggles of feeling underpaid for doing a very exhausting job.
thanosibe 19 hours ago#16
Anisoptera posted...
thanosibe posted...
Why does tipping trigger CE so much?


A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant so they know the struggles of feeling underpaid for doing a very exhausting job.
I should have been more clear. I was directing that at the people b****ing about having to tip. Every time there's a thread about tipping people show what cheapskates they are despite wanting to eat at sit in restaurants. I always tip heavy because I've thankfully never had to work in a restaurant.
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WhinyZach 19 hours ago#17
lmfao imagine complaining about getting a free $15.
Transcendentia 19 hours ago#18
MC_BatCommander posted...
People like that make me want to tip less tbh
Kajagogo 19 hours ago#19
Yea I'm iffy about tipping already, but when I see people whine about tips that makes me want to tip less than I already do. It's like, if you don't want the $15.86....I will GLADLY take it.
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Yaridovich 19 hours ago#20
My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.
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Giant_Aspirin 19 hours ago#21
WhinyZach posted...
lmfao imagine complaining about getting a free $15.


lmfao imagine thinking something is free when you're working for it
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Giant_Aspirin 19 hours ago#22
Yaridovich posted...
My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE
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ThePrinceFish 19 hours ago#23
Erica is a b**** who only gets tips at all because of the mask of non-b****iness that she has to put on at work.
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Yaridovich 19 hours ago#24
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Yaridovich posted...
My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE


That's not true. I really don't tip. Ever. I feel like I'm wasting money when I do. I go into a restaurant expecting to pay 20 dollars for my meal than that's all I'm paying. There's no reason to essentially pay extra for nothing.
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Darkman124 19 hours ago#25
thanosibe posted...
I should have been more clear. I was directing that at the people b****ing about having to tip. Every time there's a thread about tipping people show what cheapskates they are despite wanting to eat at sit in restaurants. I always tip heavy because I've thankfully never had to work in a restaurant.


it has been an edgy thing to claim you dont tip ever since reservoir dogs came out 25 years ago
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The Deadpool 19 hours ago#26
TheDarkCircle posted...
the_cajun88 posted...
With service is fine - but if I'm picking up the food and taking it with me, I'm not tipping anything.


Same. Once in a while I might leave a few bucks if someone goes above and beyond when I pick up.


Your server does MORE work when you order take out than when you sit down to eat.
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EnragedSlith 19 hours ago#27
I generally always tip just above 20%. It's an expected cost to eating at a restaurant, just like taxes. People who don't are basically robbing the service, and they're stupid a******s
WaterLink 19 hours ago#28
I'm a server. And even I say the only people that get screwed by the tipping system is the customers. The tipping system allows for many servers to make well, well over minimum wage, often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. I guarantee you if there was a set wage and tipping was eliminated, servers would make way less than they do now. So while when I do get a check with little or no tip, it does kind of bum me out sometimes but I don't throw a hissy fit over it. Oftentimes there are those that overtip to make up for it. At the end of the night very few can complain about the entire night's payout, I never understood why some servers focus on those one or two people that gipped them. Move on.

Employers basically get to pay their employees s***, which makes the restaurant more profitable. The customers are the ones that get the short end of the stick in this scenario. So yeah, servers singling out those one or two people and shaming them while they go home with hundreds of dollars after a few hours, just a bad attitude and is probably the reason many are so miserable because they focus way too much on negative s*** than the positives.

Just my .02 on the issue. Can't complain about my job at all honestly. My biggest issue with customers are the ones that are straight up rude to you out of the gate
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Giant_Aspirin 19 hours ago#29
Yaridovich posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Yaridovich posted...
My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE


That's not true. I really don't tip. Ever. I feel like I'm wasting money when I do. I go into a restaurant expecting to pay 20 dollars for my meal than that's all I'm paying. There's no reason to essentially pay extra for nothing.


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Nukleen 19 hours ago#30
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no.
Yaridovich 19 hours ago#31
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Yaridovich posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Yaridovich posted...
My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE


That's not true. I really don't tip. Ever. I feel like I'm wasting money when I do. I go into a restaurant expecting to pay 20 dollars for my meal than that's all I'm paying. There's no reason to essentially pay extra for nothing.


okp66FD


I mean, it's the internet and there'll always be that line between everybody, so you pick what you want to believe but I'm honest when I say I don't tip.
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Nukleen 19 hours ago#32
At least it's better than certain people
no.
The Deadpool 19 hours ago#33
WaterLink posted...
I'm a server. And even I say the only people that get screwed by the tipping system is the customers.


Servers get f***ed too, they just don't notice. How much do you think the average server makes a year with tips?

Tipping didn't use to be a thing. It was considered insulting in the US. Then prohibition made restaurants less profitable and they lobbied for "Tippable Wages" to be a thing...
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Pancake 19 hours ago#34
i always tip big because:

* if i get it delivered i feel like a lazy f***
* if i go out i've kept the absolute worst company before in a restaurant, so my sympathy and patience and money go to the people who literally wait on me, because there's always that slight chance one of those horrible f***-ups is somewhere else in the restaurant pissing everyone off
nemu 19 hours ago#35
It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.
Iwin2013 19 hours ago#36
MC_BatCommander posted...
People like that make me want to tip less tbh
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Monday 19 hours ago#38
I had an experience at one of those buffet places a couple years back that really soured my opinion on tipping culture. The restaurant was clearly understaffed, and the waitress didn't come around a single time during our entire stay. Keep in mind that, while understaffed, there was just one other person besides my group in the place. When the time came to pay the bill, I stopped my gf from placing a 5 on the table. We received terrible service, so why tip? This disgusting practice has become so deeply rooted in society that even trash service is met with a tip. And that's unacceptable. Period.
rookieplayer03 19 hours ago#39
You win some, you lose some. I bet she wasn't pissed when someone overtipped.

In all honesty, I don't understand tipping at restaurants. Why do I have to tip when you're performing your job duties?
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WaterLink 19 hours ago#40
The Deadpool posted...
WaterLink posted...
I'm a server. And even I say the only people that get screwed by the tipping system is the customers.


Servers get f***ed too, they just don't notice. How much do you think the average server makes a year with tips?

Tipping didn't use to be a thing. It was considered insulting in the US. Then prohibition made restaurants less profitable and they lobbied for "Tippable Wages" to be a thing...

Varies a lot depending on the restaurant. At mine though my tips alone pay for my rent and utilities, my car note and insurance, phone bill, and I still have well enough to pay for gas and groceries and going out on the town, etc. Luckily I also live in Nevada so I get an 8.50 base wage and I just direct deposit it straight into my savings because I never really need it.

But at the end of the day, the tips alone are enough to live on and have leftovers. Not to mention you often can bring home food for free or at a big discount.
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rookieplayer03 posted...
You win some, you lose some. I bet she wasn't pissed when someone overtipped.


Wise words. The overtippers make up for the undertippers. The good nights make up for the bad. Overall, serving is a good gig.
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Iwin2013 19 hours ago#42
Monday posted...
I had an experience at one of those buffet places a couple years back that really soured my opinion on tipping culture. The restaurant was clearly understaffed, and the waitress didn't come around a single time during our entire stay. Keep in mind that, while understaffed, there was just one other person besides my group in the place. When the time came to pay the bill, I stopped my gf from placing a 5 on the table. We received terrible service, so why tip? This disgusting practice has become so deeply rooted in society that even trash service is met with a tip. And that's unacceptable. Period.


I agree. I don't give two s***s that they don't get paid more, I hardly get paid what I'm worth, so find another job. That's what's wrong with society. This victimized BS.
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The average server probably makes around $20-$25 an hour with tips. That's a very good wage for a job that essentially only requires one to have good people skills.
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EvalAngell 19 hours ago#44
Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit.

Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap f***s, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.
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Link HT 19 hours ago#45
never change murica

ridiculous f***ing system
DevsBro 19 hours ago#46
I don't tip less than 15% ever, and usually shoot for 20%.

The whole thing is more complicated than it needs to be, tbh. I can see where servers are coming from for sure. For most of them, tips are the bulk of their pay, because social standards have allowed them to be. So customers who act like it's not their fault the server gets little pay aside from tips are not seeing the big picture.

Sure, it's not your fault individually that servers are paid little by the employer. It's also not your fault indiviually that there's a long line at the movie theater nor is it your fault individually that people get mad when you use racial slurs against them. But these are social standards and people who don't tip, people who cut in line and people who use racial slurs are all a******s and the victims of these random acts of dickery really just stating facts when they point it out.
Iwin2013 19 hours ago#47
fenderbender321 posted...
The average server probably makes around $20-$25 an hour with tips. That's a very good wage for a job that essentially only requires one to have good people skills.


Supposedly, they only make something like 5/Hr, which I think is either a myth or downright illegal.
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wolverinev2 19 hours ago#48
This whole situation depends on WHERE the waiter is working. Obviously if you're at a Denny's or IHOP most people aren't going to tip you a lot. As opposed to working at a fine dinning restaurant, where the bill is usually $60-$200 at the most. So, people will generally tip more. Granted, some people are usually cheapskates. If I can do the simple math in my head for a meal that was like $14, then I usually tip like $5 or $6 just because I feel like it's a better thing to do than to be cheap.
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Laserion 19 hours ago#49
Pics_nao_plz posted...
As many of you know, I am a huge Amiibo collector, so I find it important to let the waitress know right away that you want the Breadsticks, as there will not be any wasted time.

Again?
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DevsBro 19 hours ago#50
It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.

I second this.

But really even if service is total garbage, I'm more likely to still tip and just not go back.
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    WaterLink 19 hours ago#51
    Iwin2013 posted...
    fenderbender321 posted...
    The average server probably makes around $20-$25 an hour with tips. That's a very good wage for a job that essentially only requires one to have good people skills.


    Supposedly, they only make something like 5/Hr, which I think is either a myth or downright illegal.

    That might be their base salary. The employers are legally required to make up the difference if their tips don't get them to minimum wage, so they're always guaranteed at least that. Never seen a case where their tips don't make that and the employer had to make up the difference. Because with tips they make way more than that.
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    myztikrice 19 hours ago#52
    EvalAngell posted...
    Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit. 

    Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap f***s, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

    I hope you got her fired
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    NathanX95 19 hours ago#53
    Link HT posted...
    never change murica

    ridiculous f***ing system


    As an American, I completely agree. The worst part is that you literally have so many people everywhere, as you can see in this topic, defending this piece of s*** system.
    Iwin2013 19 hours ago#54
    myztikrice posted...
    EvalAngell posted...
    Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit. 

    Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap f***s, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

    I hope you got her fired


    I would've been like,"Excuse me?"
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    GregShmedley 19 hours ago#55
    Combination of narcissism and spoiled server entitlement. 

    I worked as a delivery driver and a busser for three years. I get it; I always tip at the minimum fifteen to twenty percent to a driver or server unless it was absolutely horrible service. Either way, her attitude is that of an entitled child. 

    So many servers can be so entitled and expect to make double minimum wage for doing virtually unskilled labor. They're not dimepeace strippers and need to stop acting like they deserve to be rained on as such.
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    WhinyZach 19 hours ago#56
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    WhinyZach posted...
    lmfao imagine complaining about getting a free $15.


    lmfao imagine thinking something is free when you're working for it


    um it's literally free. He coulda left her nothing.
    WaterLink 19 hours ago#57
    DevsBro posted...
    It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.

    I second this.

    But really even if service is total garbage, I'm more likely to still tip and just not go back.

    Servers don't want tipping banned because if it did we'd make less money. We're already guaranteed at least minimum wage, tipping allows us to make way more than that. If there was no more tipping many restaurants would probably pay around that area, so that would become our ceiling instead of our floor. 

    So shaming someone on social media is a punk ass move because odds are there was another customer that made your day. But you choose to go shame someone instead of posting the ticket of the giant ass tip you got from someone else
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    I had a friend who worked at Denny's. She regularly brought home 200-300 in tips a night. Plus a base wage of 8.75 (at the time.) 

    Also, if you're with friends are you each supposed to tip 20% (or whatever percent) or pull your resources and do one tip equaling 20% of total bill? In this scenario you're paying separately for your meals.
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    Sir Will 19 hours ago#59
    Oh boo hoo. Unless she spent over an hour catering to that table and that table only, she made out just fine.
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    EvalAngell 19 hours ago#60
    myztikrice posted...
    EvalAngell posted...
    Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit. 

    Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap f***s, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

    I hope you got her fired


    nah we were pretty buzzed and just laughed it off. we go there every now and then too so can't afford to be starting s*** and not be welcomed back.
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    FrisbeeDude 19 hours ago#61
    often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. 

    Yeah...this person doesn't wait tables

    Anyway, I'd also like to deal away with the tipping system. Joe 9-5 has proven they given actual power over another person's wages, they'll abuse it to their own benefit 

    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.
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    ModLogic 19 hours ago#62
    Anisoptera posted...
    thanosibe posted...
    Why does tipping trigger CE so much?


    A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant

    they have to protect the scam or else they are getting min wage just like burger flippers
    ModLogic 19 hours ago#63
    WaterLink posted...
    Servers don't want tipping banned because if it did we'd make less money. We're already guaranteed at least minimum wage, tipping allows us to make way more than that.

    stop exposing the scam!
    ManBeast462 19 hours ago#64
    Wtf is that image? Haha what an entitled POS.
    Monday 19 hours ago#65
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    Is this a real post
    FrisbeeDude 19 hours ago#66
    ModLogic posted...
    Anisoptera posted...
    thanosibe posted...
    Why does tipping trigger CE so much?


    A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant

    they have to protect the scam or else they are getting min wage just like burger flippers


    "Tip?! What do mean tip?! It's says 2 for 22, so that's what we're paying!"

    That's what you sound like. Thankfully, people of your ilk tend to frequent the applebees/chilis/Friday's of the world and I was smart enough when waiting tables to avoid working at such places
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    WaterLink 19 hours ago#67
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. 

    Yeah...this person doesn't wait tables

    Oh but I do. Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
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    ModLogic 19 hours ago#68
    wolverinev2 19 hours ago#69
    DevsBro posted...
    It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.

    I second this.

    But really even if service is total garbage, I'm more likely to still tip and just not go back.


    In certain countries Tipping is considered an insult. I know from what I've heard is that in Japan and South Korea, they'll essentially consider it one. Due to how well they're already being paid over there.
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    FrisbeeDude 19 hours ago#70
    Monday posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    Is this a real post


    You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?
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    Link HT 19 hours ago#72
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    Yaridovich posted...
    My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


    i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE

    This is what's f***ed up about the system. What f***ing repercussions? Threatening customers with bad service or downright f***ing with your orders because they didn't TIP whatever amount someone feels is necessary is BEYOND f***ed up. Tipping is supposed to be something extra for good or exceptional service, someone who is just doing their job should get 0% extra, just like everyone else on the planet doing their jobs.

    Abolish that s*** and don't blame consumers, blame s***ty employers.
    thanosibe 19 hours ago#73
    Darkman124 posted...
    thanosibe posted...
    I should have been more clear. I was directing that at the people b****ing about having to tip. Every time there's a thread about tipping people show what cheapskates they are despite wanting to eat at sit in restaurants. I always tip heavy because I've thankfully never had to work in a restaurant.


    it has been an edgy thing to claim you dont tip ever since reservoir dogs came out 25 years ago
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    Monday 19 hours ago#74
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    Monday posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    Is this a real post


    You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?


    So it's not, gotcha. Nobody is this intentionally inflammatory and isn't just s***posting.
    ModLogic 19 hours ago#75
    Link HT posted...
    blame s***ty employers.

    not solely the employers fault. greedy emoyees are also to blame because they also actively keep the scam going.
    FrisbeeDude 19 hours ago#76
    Tipping is supposed to be something extra for good or exceptional service, 

    Except in the American bar and restaurant industry, it's painfully common knowledge that tipping is essential to a waitstaff/barstaff's livelihood and the reason while your meal is priced what it is
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    FrisbeeDude 19 hours ago#77
    Monday posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    Monday posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    Is this a real post


    You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?


    So it's not, gotcha. Nobody is this intentionally inflammatory and isn't just s***posting.


    Ok
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    Darkman124 19 hours ago#78
    i almost exclusively go out during happy hr/restaurant week, so i tip about 25%

    works itself out to a very forgettable, average tip which is what i aim for. 

    the idea that tipping really well will make a bartender notice who you are and 'hook you up' has always amused me. worst investment possible. i do what is expected as part of the system and punish those who f*** it up.
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    ManBeast462 18 hours ago#79
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. 
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks
    Sayoria 18 hours ago#80
    I just tipped 3 on a 16 dollar bill yesterday. Just short of 20, but I still felt generous. In speaking, I need to leave a very negative review of the place on yelp when I get home.
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    Darkman124 18 hours ago#81
    ManBeast462 posted...

    By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks


    while it doesnt go to the cooks, typically a chunk of the tip is shared with busboys and other laborers
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    FrisbeeDude 18 hours ago#82
    ManBeast462 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. 
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks


    1. A lot of restaurants do
    2. Those that don't, typically are paid more than minimum wage. Their checks aren't dependent on the ignorant and/or cheap
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    ModLogic 18 hours ago#83
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    , it's painfully common knowledge that tipping is essential to a waitstaff/barstaff's livelihood

    apparently most of these unskilled workers are ignorant that they signed up for the roulette wage job and the customer has no obligation to bail them out or play along woth their scam
    Sad_Face 18 hours ago#84
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    ManBeast462 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work. 
    If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.


    By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks


    1. A lot of restaurants do
    2. Those that don't, typically are paid more than minimum wage. Their checks aren't dependent on the ignorant and/or cheap


    I used to be a cook and it drove me nuts that I came to the restaurant after they made the decision to stop splitting the tips with the kitchen staff. The restaurant was almost always busy but no matter how many dishes I pump out, the pay was always the same. When I tip, I normally tip because I enjoyed my food (and because it's expected of me), but now that I've worked in the kitchen and never got that satisfaction of hearing any compliments from customers and have to see their cleaned out plates in the dishwasher to proverbially get it, and how I'm constantly working in the heat and every time I look for servers, they're on their phone or just chatting, the whole tipping situation just sours me.
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    EpicMickeyDrew 18 hours ago#85
    MorbidFaithless posted...
    Also, if you're with friends are you each supposed to tip 20% (or whatever percent) or pull your resources and do one tip equaling 20% of total bill? In this scenario you're paying separately for your meals.

    You realise it's the same price either way. @MorbidFaithless
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    Yaridovich posted...
    My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


    You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?
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    Steve Nick 17 hours ago#87
    Anisoptera posted...
    S9Q82QB



    This chick makes $16 waiting on ONE table, which is like 30 mins max, and she complaining.

    She's working a f***ing minimum wage job and making double or maybe quadruple minimum wage.


    I'll just tip $0 from now on.
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    Anisoptera 17 hours ago#88
    It's unrealistic expectation to expect a waiter to always be in a preppy mood during their entire shift. Especially when customers can be too demanding or asking for too much and the restaurant is super busy. Putting on a fake smile and fake act takes a lot of energy.
    Annihilated 17 hours ago#89
    And yet who had to make all that food while other tables were waiting for theirs? Any old sap can carry a tray.
    Steve Nick 17 hours ago#90
    fenderbender321 posted...
    Yaridovich posted...
    My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


    You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?


    then go to federal prison
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    Darmik 17 hours ago#91
    America is weird. Making $16 for serving one table is something to be snarky about? 

    It's almost like the 20% tip system is a load of crap. Pretty stupid how a table of 4 ordering $100 worth of food has to tip more than a table of 2 ordering $200 worth of food. Surely larger tables are more work.
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    Steve Nick 17 hours ago#92
    The standard tip is 10%. Always has been.

    The job didn't get any harder in the last couple decades. Servers have just gotten more lippy and pressured people into giving more. 

    Most servers make way more than minimum wage and they're doing a minimum wage quality job.
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    Gamer99z 17 hours ago#93
    Transcendentia posted...
    MC_BatCommander posted...
    People like that make me want to tip less tbh
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    Anteaterking 16 hours ago#94
    Steve Nick posted...
    fenderbender321 posted...
    Yaridovich posted...
    My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


    You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?


    then go to federal prison


    I think the point is that the drawing a line through it doesn't prevent anything.
    Steve Nick posted...
    fenderbender321 posted...
    Yaridovich posted...
    My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.


    You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?


    then go to federal prison


    I'm just saying, there's a way around it. It's illegal to modify those slips regardless.
    God Bless You
    I really hope servers stop complaining about tips. I also hope management catches servers that post s*** like that on social media and immediately fires them. People are going to stop tipping if servers keep complaining. Just go out there and give it your all, and let the money come through. Give a heart-felt thank you any time anybody tips you ANYTHING at all, because that person wasn't required to tip. Don't get greedy.
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    Anisoptera 16 hours ago#97
    Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough. From your perspective it seems like all they do is fill your drinks and hand you your food, but there's so much more to it.
    Balrog0 16 hours ago#98
    Anisoptera posted...
    Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough. From your perspective it seems like all they do is fill your drinks and hand you your food, but there's so much more to it.


    we don't even know the first thing about this experience though

    it is very possible to order that much without being much work

    I'm not saying that's the case here but there's a wide variance in how difficult customers are to serve...
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    gatorsPENSbucs 16 hours ago#99
    Yah, and tip on the original price, not the price after the crazy $20 off coupon you used.

    Damn, I didn't even see that picture in the op. I f***in hated verbal/written tips. If you're gonna tip like s*** I'd rather you just lie and say the service sucked or the food sucked or something.
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    Anisoptera posted...
    Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough. From your perspective it seems like all they do is fill your drinks and hand you your food, but there's so much more to it.


    Are you talking to me? I was a server for 3 years. And I was damn good at it.
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      Kid_Buu 16 hours ago#101
      MC_BatCommander posted...
      People like that make me want to tip less tbh
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      WaterLink 16 hours ago#102
      Anisoptera posted...
      Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough.

      Paid enough by our employers? Yeah we're not. But at the end of the night and we collect all our tips with our actual wages just being lagniappe? Lmao. At that point we're overpaid. And I'm goddamn loving it, Kinda the reason I went into it. But when I get stiffed I'm not going to go to social media like a little b**** and shame that person. It just happens sometimes. Yeah when I get the ticket and I see I made basically nothing from it, it sucks. 

      But then I get a ticket that tips $30 for a $70 ticket. How many servers do you see going online to post about their insane tips they get? No, it's just the scumbags they have and they need to shame them so it doesn't happen again. It's nothing but entitlement and a s***ty attitude when servers do these kinds of things.
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      Crazyman93 16 hours ago#103
      Anisoptera posted...
      S9Q82QB

      I think she missed what they were doing. They literally tipped in such a way that they could drop two hundreds on the table and leave.
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      wolverinev2 15 hours ago#104
      If she doesn't like how people tip, she could easily go work at another restaurant. Plus, I find it funny how people like her get butthurt over a few people being cheap. It would be one thing if EVERYBODY tipped her that much, but it usually seems to be a select few that will end up tipping less than a certain "accepted" percentage. 

      I do think that most waiters and waitresses need to be educated and given a dose of reality.
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      cleat76 15 hours ago#105
      Crazyman93 posted...
      Anisoptera posted...
      S9Q82QB

      I think she missed what they were doing. They literally tipped in such a way that they could drop two hundreds on the table and leave.


      They used a credit card slip to leave cash on the table?
      Crazyman93 15 hours ago#106
      cleat76 posted...
      Crazyman93 posted...
      Anisoptera posted...
      S9Q82QB

      I think she missed what they were doing. They literally tipped in such a way that they could drop two hundreds on the table and leave.


      They used a credit card slip to leave cash on the table?

      Or they're annoyingly OCD.
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      StarKnight23 15 hours ago#107
      So basically 
      **** you pay me
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      EnragedSlith posted...
      I generally always tip just above 20%. It's an expected cost to eating at a restaurant, just like taxes. People who don't are basically robbing the service, and they're stupid a******s


      Tips are not like taxes. One is optional. Now a gratuity, that is like a service tax. You literally don't understand what a tip is. (Hint - you aren't entitled to a tip). 

      How are they 'robbing the service'? If people didn't come in to eat, the server wouldn't have a job. Less people eating means less serving shifts. Attitudes like yours with these expectations are why restaurants fail. Alienating customers because you think they're cheap. Wow

      And they're 'stupid a******s' . Hey man, check this out. After reading your post, you come off as very stupid, and entitled. I can just picture you with various piercings proly, looking eternally bored, b****ing to some chick that you only got 5$ on 40, mumbling as you walk away from tables. A spoiled mess
      The Deadpool 14 hours ago#109
      If you can't afford to tip, learn to cook.
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      Coca-Cola 14 hours ago#110
      Glad I live in a country where we don't tip, we just eat our food, pay the bill and leave its great
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      Anisoptera 14 hours ago#111
      Tip your electric company for providing you with efficient energy 24/7.
      Benify 13 hours ago#112
      Servers can munch me, tbh.
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      paladin_man 13 hours ago#113
      Coca-Cola posted...
      Glad I live in a country where we don't tip, we just eat our food, pay the bill and leave its great
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      Nundulan 13 hours ago#114
      WhinyZach posted...
      lmfao imagine complaining about getting a free $15.

      It's not free you dunce. You get taxed brutally on your paychecks. Servers survive on their tips.
      Only in America could you find a way to earn a healthy buck and still keep your attitude on self-destruct
      Pics_nao_plz posted...
      I always tip no matter what. In fact, it's part of my method. 

      Behold:

      The S.H.I.N.O.B.I. Method

      My method makes the assumption that you have already met a woman and have her number, which I feel is the easy part because it can just be a girl you matched with through online dating or met in a group project or something. Anyway:

      1. S - Send Vague Text Responses
      Girls eat this s*** up. Don't give her any definite responses or make her feel like she's worth any more time than a text message. If you are too much of a "nice guy" then normally the girl gets turned off, but you can't be a dick either. You need to be aloof; this girl KNOWS she can pull a thousand guys on Tinder in fifteen minutes, but if you aren't acting thirsty it will instantly elevate you above them.

      2. H - Have Her Meet You For Dinner at Olive Garden
      Olive Garden is the perfect casual dining experience. It is nice enough that it will feel like an actual date, but not too nice that your date is intimidated. It also offers ample parking. Make sure that you drive separately; this is important later on.

      3. I - Indicate That You Would Like a Round of Breadsticks for the Table
      As soon as the waitress attends to your table, order a round of Breadsticks. The Breadsticks are not only free, but they are unlimited, and that will be key here. As many of you know, I am a huge Amiibo collector, so I find it important to let the waitress know right away that you want the Breadsticks, as there will not be any wasted time.

      4. N - Never Let the Waitress See You Taking Breadsticks Out of the Restaurant 
      Once your have received your basket of Breadsticks, you may empty them all out into your jacket pockets, but as this is uncomfortable, you will want to make sure you take trips to your car periodically to unload. This is where it becomes key that you drove to the restaurant separately. Make sure the wait staff does not see you leaving to unload either, or they will kick you out (has happened to me on rare occasions). 

      5. O - Order More Breadsticks
      As soon as the waitress comes back, say "nummy nummy, breadsticks in me tummy, yummy yummy, more more!" or something to that nature. The waitress will think you are a big fat f*** and likely go back to provide more, as Olive Garden provides these Breadsticks for free and the restaurants are insured for thousands anyway (so they aren't taking a financial hit from the Breastick losses).

      6. B - Bring a Trash Bag to Store Breadsticks
      This part is key. You can only go out to your car so many times before you begin to rouse suspicion. I like to use the "Oh, I left my dog chained outside of the restaurant, better bring him water this time!" or "Methinks I have left my child in the hot car! Daddy's coming!" However, too many trips will start to get you looks, so bring a trash bag to fill up with Breadsticks (under your table).

      7. I - Immediately Leave the Restaurant After Your Bag is Full
      Once the bag is full, you can no longer unload in your car, so it is time to leave. If you have done this correctly, your bill will be $0.00 and you will have a car loaded with warm, garlic and parmesan covered baked goods.

      From there, you can use these Breadsticks to make sandwiches for the month. I hope this advice helps some of you CEmen, because I know dating is hard and it's sometimes nerve wracking knowing how to behave on a first date.


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      I4NRulez 13 hours ago#116
      I just tip between 10-15%.

      I've only never tipped like 3 times but once was because i was super broke
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      PG_Era 13 hours ago#117
      If you don't like the tips, get a better job and stop your crying. It's that simple.
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      Verdekal 13 hours ago#118
      When I get the check, the only thing I tip is my fedora.
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      Crazyman93 posted...
      cleat76 posted...
      Crazyman93 posted...
      Anisoptera posted...
      S9Q82QB

      I think she missed what they were doing. They literally tipped in such a way that they could drop two hundreds on the table and leave.


      They used a credit card slip to leave cash on the table?

      Or they're annoyingly OCD.



      I mean... I'm the same... the check MUST be a solid number ending in 0 or 5. Depending on the service, will dictate how many increments I jump. 

      Tipping by percentage is stupid. You do the same thing for a cheap meal as an expensive one. Cooks aren't getting the tip.
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      WaterLink 13 hours ago#120
      cuttin_in_farm posted...
      Cooks aren't getting the tip

      depends on the restaurant.
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      Go_Totodile 13 hours ago#121
      God damn why are tipping topics always so successful.
      Tryhaptaward 13 hours ago#122
      Imagine being upset for getting $15 from one f***ing table

      what a lil s***
      Tryhaptaward posted...
      Imagine being upset for getting $15 from one f***ing table

      what a lil s***


      As a server myself, I agree. The reason it's a % of the bill is to allow for the tips to be in line with the cost of living, so if food prices go up, servers can make more money. But honestly, serving one huge table that has a $200 bill is actually less work than serving 5 tables that all have $40 bills. So I don't think anyone should b**** about the % once the bill starts climbing into the hundreds. You're gonna get a good tip. $15 is good.
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      ColeslawIsBad 12 hours ago#124
      Lol wanting 36 bucks for bringing 180 worth of food from point a to point b? That seems crazy in my eyes. That shouldnt be more than an hour of combined work toward that specific table id imagine
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      MetaSeraphim 11 hours ago#125
      Giant_Aspirin posted...
      i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE


      This thought process baffles me. Why would someone be a tough guy because they don't tip? You don't tip because you don't tip, there isn't any reason behind it beyond that.

      What is worst than non-tippers is the tippers who believe in it so religiously that if someone doesn't do it they are a scumbag and that the tipper mafia is going to go after them.
      wolverinev2 11 hours ago#126
      fenderbender321 posted...
      Tryhaptaward posted...
      Imagine being upset for getting $15 from one f***ing table

      what a lil s***


      As a server myself, I agree. The reason it's a % of the bill is to allow for the tips to be in line with the cost of living, so if food prices go up, servers can make more money. But honestly, serving one huge table that has a $200 bill is actually less work than serving 5 tables that all have $40 bills. So I don't think anyone should b**** about the % once the bill starts climbing into the hundreds. You're gonna get a good tip. $15 is good.



      You know what would actually work best? If they included the tip in the bill, that way the servers wouldn't complain and people wouldn't have to do any extra math while out for lunch or dinner.
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      WaterLink posted...
      The Deadpool posted...
      WaterLink posted...
      I'm a server. And even I say the only people that get screwed by the tipping system is the customers.


      Servers get f***ed too, they just don't notice. How much do you think the average server makes a year with tips?

      Tipping didn't use to be a thing. It was considered insulting in the US. Then prohibition made restaurants less profitable and they lobbied for "Tippable Wages" to be a thing...

      Varies a lot depending on the restaurant. At mine though my tips alone pay for my rent and utilities, my car note and insurance, phone bill, and I still have well enough to pay for gas and groceries and going out on the town, etc. Luckily I also live in Nevada so I get an 8.50 base wage and I just direct deposit it straight into my savings because I never really need it. 

      But at the end of the day, the tips alone are enough to live on and have leftovers. Not to mention you often can bring home food for free or at a big discount.

      Wth kind of four star restaurant do you work at? Because you clearly cannot do something like that at a Dennys.
      You come up with something better!
      Tezlok 10 hours ago#128
      The waitress can f*** herself. I dont believe in tipping. At all
      Shiek120 10 hours ago#129
      I usually tip if I'm in a seated eating restaurant. I'll tip delivery drivers as well, as long as they've delivered my food within a reasonable amount of time (my tip will degrade every few minutes after 20 minutes) 

      However, if I'm picking up food, I REFUSE to tip.

      Also, this one time at a restaurant the person I was with was so mad with their food he just started throwing "NO TIP!" out whenever the waitress was around. He was a jerk. Don't be him
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      Arcanine2009 10 hours ago#130
      Why are people in this herd mentality that guilt trips and shames people for not tipping, and never question the system who f***ed them over in the first place? But instead you have to blame it on the customers, instead of the department of labor government that allows managers to give employees below minimum wage salary.

      This mentality is as awful as people who think a religious book.. or hell the Constitution is perfect and never should be questioned.
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      ModLogic 9 hours ago#131
      Arcanine2009 posted...
      Why are people in this herd mentality that guilt trips and shames people for not tipping, and never question the system who f***ed them over in the first place? But instead you have to blame it on the customers, instead of the department of labor government that allows managers to give employees below minimum wage salary.

      This mentality is as awful as people who think a religious book.. or hell the Constitution is perfect and never should be questioned.

      because thats the scam

      they sign up for these min skill jobs. 
      take advantage of tipping culture. 
      end up getting more than min wage.

      in their eyes the people f***ing them over are the customers not falling for the scam.
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      Anisoptera 9 hours ago#132
      If you don't tip they can't afford their education, living expenses, and car expenses. Minimum wage isn't enough for the amount of work they have to do. They need to eat. No tip, no food on the table.
      Darmik 9 hours ago#133
      Anisoptera posted...
      If you don't tip they can't afford their education, living expenses, and car expenses. Minimum wage isn't enough for the amount of work they have to do. They need to eat. No tip, no food on the table.


      But nobody is interested in raising the minimum wage for servers there. Even though that would cost the consumer less.
      Kind Regards,
      Darmik
      Agent M 9 hours ago#134
      My opinion on this is a little biased, because I work as a cook in a busy sit down restaurant. Servers are constantly complaining about their tips... acting greedy, spoiled, entitled, you name it. And yet, even on their worst night, they are still going to get paid more than me. All while sitting down reading the newspaper, doing a crossword puzzle, watching videos on their phone, taking a dozen smoke breaks, etc.

      Meanwhile, if I stop working for even a minute, my boss will chime in and ask me what I'm doing. Watches everyone like a hawk, it seems like. And when it's busy, I need to hustle. I take passion in making a dish that looks as good as I can make it under the time constraints (most of the other cooks don't care about that). However, I don't get paid extra for putting more effort into making presentable food. I just do it, because that's what I would want to see as a customer. I think about how much money they are spending, and try to make them feel like I made it special just for them. Even though I will never see or talk to them. The purpose of a restaurant is to give customers a satisfying dining experience. However, sometimes it seems like its actual purpose is to save as much money as possible by being cheap. The flaw in that logic is you lose money by driving away customers with crappy food. But I digress....

      However, I do tip 99% of the time, and try to give at least 15%. The problem is, I feel like I very rarely get good service. Most of the time it's mediocre. They do the bare minimum, often don't know anything about the food, and seem impatient. And I get the feeling that they have a bad attitude. Most of the time I tip because I enjoyed the food, and that's entirely because of the cook/ingredients.

      In the case of more exotic restaurants, like Vietnamese pho, actual communication can be nearly impossible. But good places have awesome food and good portion sizes that cost the same amount of money as a McDonald's combo, so I will always tip for that reason alone.
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      Shiek120 posted...


      However, if I'm picking up food, I REFUSE to tip.


      Like carryout? Are you supposed to tip?
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      a_riot04 8 hours ago#136
      I almost always do not tip. Unless the service is stellar. I also don't go to fancy restos that often. And even then those places I go to doesn't have spaces on their receipts for tips, so it's totally up to the customer how much they're willing to fork out, at least here where I leave.
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      Agent M posted...
      My opinion on this is a little biased, because I work as a cook in a busy sit down restaurant. Servers are constantly complaining about their tips... acting greedy, spoiled, entitled, you name it. And yet, even on their worst night, they are still going to get paid more than me. All while sitting down reading the newspaper, doing a crossword puzzle, watching videos on their phone, taking a dozen smoke breaks, etc.

      Meanwhile, if I stop working for even a minute, my boss will chime in and ask me what I'm doing. Watches everyone like a hawk, it seems like. And when it's busy, I need to hustle. I take passion in making a dish that looks as good as I can make it under the time constraints (most of the other cooks don't care about that). However, I don't get paid extra for putting more effort into making presentable food. I just do it, because that's what I would want to see as a customer. I think about how much money they are spending, and try to make them feel like I made it special just for them. Even though I will never see or talk to them. The purpose of a restaurant is to give customers a satisfying dining experience. However, sometimes it seems like its actual purpose is to save as much money as possible by being cheap. The flaw in that logic is you lose money by driving away customers with crappy food. But I digress....

      However, I do tip 99% of the time, and try to give at least 15%. The problem is, I feel like I very rarely get good service. Most of the time it's mediocre. They do the bare minimum, often don't know anything about the food, and seem impatient. And I get the feeling that they have a bad attitude. Most of the time I tip because I enjoyed the food, and that's entirely because of the cook/ingredients.

      In the case of more exotic restaurants, like Vietnamese pho, actual communication can be nearly impossible. But good places have awesome food and good portion sizes that cost the same amount of money as a McDonald's combo, so I will always tip for that reason alone.


      Good post. But I tip poorly for poor service. I agree about server entitlement, ridiculous. There is some horrible service , they deserve nothing but the minimum. Few bucks. You aren't owed tips for being a server aka f*** You
      WaterLink 8 hours ago#138
      EyeWontBeFooled posted...
      Wth kind of four star restaurant do you work at? Because you clearly cannot do something like that at a Dennys.

      Working at a local place can be much more beneficial than restaurant chains like Denny's and Chili's and Applebee's.
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      Muflaggin 8 hours ago#139
      What do waiters do that makes them tip worthy over any other profession? Should I tip my garbage man too? He does a hell of a lot more then you do.
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      Ilishe 8 hours ago#140
      MC_BatCommander posted...
      People like that make me want to tip less tbh


      This
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      Anisoptera 8 hours ago#141
      Muflaggin posted...
      What do waiters do that makes them tip worthy over any other profession? Should I tip my garbage man too? He does a hell of a lot more then you do.


      It takes a lot of effort to remember which order goes where and who ordered what. They have to deliver your food while it's still hot while attending multiple tables. They have to remember any special requests and
      Tezlok 7 hours ago#142
      Anisoptera posted...
      Muflaggin posted...
      What do waiters do that makes them tip worthy over any other profession? Should I tip my garbage man too? He does a hell of a lot more then you do.


      It takes a lot of effort to remember which order goes where and who ordered what. They have to deliver your food while it's still hot while attending multiple tables. They have to remember any special requests and

      So why don't the cooks get tipped?
      Dash_Harber 7 hours ago#143
      Who bases their tip percentage on what the food costs? It should be based on what the service is like.
      ManBeast462 4 hours ago#144
      StarKnight23 posted...
      So basically 
      **** you pay me
      TheNextLink 3 hours ago#145
      Thankfully I don't go out and eat. It's been years since I had to pay any tip.
      Balrog0 1 hour ago#146
      Anisoptera posted...
      It takes a lot of effort to remember which order goes where and who ordered what. They have to deliver your food while it's still hot while attending multiple tables. They have to remember any special requests and


      so if they mess those things up consistently ?
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      ColeslawIsBad posted...
      Shiek120 posted...


      However, if I'm picking up food, I REFUSE to tip.


      Like carryout? Are you supposed to tip?


      On average, a server works harder formyour take out than when you sit down.
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