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@soysturm brought up this point in the last few posts of https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/296-doctor-who/75571366
Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, but seem to go against that. Are those people fake conservatives, or is conservatism just a hypocritical ideology. Someone also said that conservatives are more open to new ideas than liberals are. Is that true? Are conservatives more liberal than liberals are?
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You're really desperate, dude. also bidas100 posted... Someone also said that conservatives are more open to new ideas than liberals are. that's literally not what he said and you know it https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/296-doctor-who/75571366/883021712 Honestly I find conservatives are much more open to other ideas being shown due to the left pretty much owning Hollywood making it nearly impossible to consume most forms of media without the leftist garbage being forced in, and our ideas are strong enough to hold up to the constant indoctrination attempts. A show can be a good show even if showing ideas we disagree with, if its well written and more subtle than Bonk Bonk on the Head with them. Star Trek was great at that. emphasis mine
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or is conservatism just a hypocritical ideology. Yes, innately.
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No. As gay marriage is now a accepted part of society, conservatives by nature wish to conserve it.
Abortion isn't really a conservative or liberal issue but rather a life or death one
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Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, *Small Federal Government. Localities, such as municipals and states should have the power over these kinds of things because that opens up the venue of "I want/don't want X, so I'm moving".
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Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? So their religion doesn't align with their political belief? BoxxyXXXIX posted... No. As gay marriage is now a accepted part of society, conservatives by nature wish to conserve it. I guess you're not conservative, because you can't conserve your account for more than a month.
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bidas100 posted...
CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? Sounds about right. That liberal, dark-skinned, middle-eastern Jew who works a union job, speaks a funny language, and believes in healing the sick for free, and feeding them without drug tests, and paying taxes, and welcoming aliens and immigrants... just isn't the same one they seem to worship on Sundays. Weird how that works, right?
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bidas100 posted...CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? So there's no pro-life party?
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bidas100 posted...
CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? I never said I was conservative. I'm a cetrist as I realize both sides have valid points
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...
bidas100 posted...CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? Lol.
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DnDer posted...bidas100 posted...CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? There is not. There is a "pro-birth, but once you're out of the womb, you're a filthy mooch and you better bootstrap instead of taking my tax dollars, filthy untermensch" party.
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is conservatism just a hypocritical ideology. Yes bidas100 posted... Someone also said that conservatives are more open to new ideas than liberals are. Is that true? No. That is, by definition, the opposite of conservatism. bidas100 posted... Are conservatives more liberal than liberals are? f*** no. |
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bidas100 posted...DnDer posted...bidas100 posted...CherryTsundere posted...Conservatives in the US are also more religious did you forget that Tc? Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...
Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing Explain yourself.
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing I was going to ask this, but then I realized I rather not give the troll an opportunity to speak.
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing Do you REALLY want more boxxy bulls*** infecting your brain? I sure as hell don't. |
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This thread is dumb. Noone said conservatives were always against government. And the only people who claim liberals are more open to new ideas are liberals, everyone else knows that a lot of the time liberals don't think for themselves.
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing Ever notice how conservatives both donate money and contribute by volunteering by a huge amount of liberals? Those contributions do in fact go to needy children. They are also more willing to adopt. And they have better education programs as private schools out perform public schools.
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They're conservative in the "let's bring things back to the stone age" kinda way.
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DnDer posted...BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing Cite your sources. Especially the last one, because Pence's home state proves that wrong on its face.
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DnDer posted...BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing They're also against gay people adopting kids. They probably don't want to competition. Nice job using an op-ed article as a source.
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...DnDer posted...BoxxyXXXIX posted...Weird how conservatives tend to contribute more to kids upbringing That's because studies show children do better when brought up under one man and one woman.
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That's because studies show children do better when brought up under one man and one woman. That's not true though. @soysturm, Are these the conservative values you praise so much? You never answered if you're actually conservative or not.
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bidas100 posted...
Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, but seem to go against that. Are those people fake conservatives, or is conservatism just a hypocritical ideology. It's that the GOP isn't actually conservative. They're "conservative" only in the sense that they seem to want theocracy and other general control over people's lives (drugs, sex, etc). But they spend more money and rack up more debt than the dems.
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html Salty, but true, rebuttal: http://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/4288 Also, citing a 10-year-old op-ed that cites a book written by someone at AEI, who's a libertarian... is bad form. Because libertarians don't understand economics (or charity, for that fact) to begin with.
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That's because studies show children do better when brought up under one man and one woman. No, Boxxttroll, they don't. BTW, I look forward to seeing BoxxyXL tomorrow when this account gets banned.
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BoxxyXXXIX posted...That's because studies show children do better when brought up under one man and one woman. That is true. Don't be anti science
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A lot of conservatives don't like the fact that the federal government made laws on those and thought they should be up to the states more than the laws themselves.
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A lot of conservatives don't like the fact that the federal government made laws on those and thought they should be up to the states more than the laws themselves. That's nothing but a smokescreen. Whenever they can't get the laws they want federally, they say it should be left to the states (abortion, sodomy, etc). Whenever the states refuse to make laws they want, suddenly they want federal laws and state's rights no longer matter (drugs). They're lying hypocrites.
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BilalPowell posted...A lot of conservatives don't like the fact that the federal government made laws on those and thought they should be up to the states more than the laws themselves. Also, how are state's rights small government? You just replace one government with another one.
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http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
also: dude, i appreciate your obsession with me, but like, do you want to just f*** already or what
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http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research Rebuked by other science: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/10/new-criticism-of-regnerus-study-on-parenting-study/?utm_term=.47aadb43b977
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Well, technically states are smaller than the fed. When I talk to true conservatives and not GOP fake conservatives, they tend to want the smallest government to have the most power. So, city > county > state > nation. The county only handles things that the city can't and so on. Then you have the GOP, that wants the federal government to police your bedroom.
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http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research Nice job citing a hate group. I like how you're still dodging the question if you're conservative or not.
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^ "Although the findings reported herein may be explicable in part by a variety of forces uniquely problematic for child development in lesbian and gay families - including a lack of social support for parents, stress exposure resulting from persistent stigma, and modest or absent legal security for their parental and romantic relationship statuses."
Of course he doesn't link the study but a site with an agenda.
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bidas100 posted...Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, You'd move across state borders, leaving everything and everyone behind, but moving across federal borders is a step too far? I'm gonna guess indoctrination has something to do with the distinction being made by Americans...
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@soysturm brought up this point in the last few posts of https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/296-doctor-who/75571366 Most forms of conservatism are just hypocritical ideologies. Ron Paul libertarianism and to a lesser extent Rand Paul libertarianism are the only non-hypocritical forms. However, you also have hardcore states-rights constitionalist originalists, who basically want to eliminate every facet of the federal government that is not mandated or explicitly allowed by the bill of rights, constitution, and original 10 amendments. These types want to eliminate damn near every "Alphabet Agency" of the federal government, including the FDA, EPA, urban housing, Department of Transportation, Department of Education, BLM, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Energy, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Agriculture, and a decent percentage of them also want to eliminate the FBI & CIA (however, most are hypocritical in this area and want the FBI to remain, even though they didn't exist until the end of the 19th century) The CIA is a product of FDR and Truman-- FDR is hated by many conservatives for being the "daddy" of the expansion of the federal government (libertarians and constitutional conservatives also hate Lincoln for being the other daddy of it)
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I'm not dodging the question; it has no relevance in this conversation.
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I'm not dodging the question; it has no relevance in this conversation. You got upset earlier because I assumed you were a conservative, which was odd since you never said you weren't conservative. It's more like you were offending that I assumed right. I'm not sure if you were aware that the FRC was a hate group and were deliberately trying to post fake news or if you just linked to the first Google result for "gay adoption studies." If you instead searched for "gay adoption study," the FRC's article would be listed after articles that state the opposite. You're either malicious or ignorant. Here's the APA article: http://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/10/adopted-children.aspx
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Couldn't the argument that the right's view on abortion contradicting their other views be applied equally to the left?
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Couldn't the argument that the right's view on abortion contradicting their other views be applied equally to the left? In what way?
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Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, but [their views on abortion] seem to go against that. I'm saying that couldn't you make the same argument against democrats? I.e.: "Democrats are supposed to be for larger government, but their views on abortion seem to go against that." The point is, both ideologies have beliefs that don't necessarily adhere to a specific absolute, and it gets infinitely more complex once you start accounting for everyone's own individual viewpoints.
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Abortion isn't really a small government vs big government question. It is a question of whether or not you believe a fetus is a human being with the rights therein, and the mother's rights vs the fetus' rights. There is nothing inherently contradictory with abortion and the belief in small government.
As for being against gay marriage, one could probably argue that isn't a traditional conservative value, if you assume a traditional conservative is what used to be a "classical liberal". I personally don't think the government (from a federal level) should endorse any marriages, and I would personally prefer the states don't either, although they technically have the Constitutional ability to.
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https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/10/27/frc-fact-not-opinion-hetero-parents-better-for-kids-than-same-sex-parents "The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group." L O L """""Centrist"""""
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bidas100 posted...Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, but [their views on abortion] seem to go against that. Are Democrats supposed to be the antithesis of conservatives?
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CherryTsundere posted...BoxxyXXXIX posted...
https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/10/27/frc-fact-not-opinion-hetero-parents-better-for-kids-than-same-sex-parents
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Is a socially liberal group that comes to the opposite conclusion that also happens to agree with your bias somehow more credible? At the end of the day, those are doctors presenting their findings. On top of that, in the link, it shows several groups who reach the same conclusionNiko Niko Nii!CherryTsundere posted...BoxxyXXXIX posted...
https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/10/27/frc-fact-not-opinion-hetero-parents-better-for-kids-than-same-sex-parents
Even the American College of Pediatricians agree
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And the APA and AAP are traditionally liberal. They are still doctors. Do their opinions not matter simply because they hold a different opinion as you? They have the same education as other doctors and they disagree with the "mainstream" opinion."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. BergerBoxxyXXXIX posted...Is a socially liberal group that comes to the opposite conclusion that also happens to agree with your bias somehow more credible? At the end of the day, those are doctors presenting their findings. On top of that, in the link, it shows several groups who reach the same conclusion
I linked to the APA article. Get you trash out of here.Fun fact: DC Comics is short for Detective Conan Comicsbidas100 posted...TriforceBun posted...
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Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, but [their views on abortion] seem to go against that.
I'm saying that couldn't you make the same argument against democrats? I.e.:
"Democrats are supposed to be for larger government, but their views on abortion seem to go against that."
The point is, both ideologies have beliefs that don't necessarily adhere to a specific absolute, and it gets infinitely more complex once you start accounting for everyone's own individual viewpoints.
Are Democrats supposed to be the antithesis of conservatives?
Not necessarily, but it does tend to appear that way most times.BoxxyXXXIX posted...CherryTsundere posted...
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https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/10/27/frc-fact-not-opinion-hetero-parents-better-for-kids-than-same-sex-parents
Even the American College of Pediatricians agree
"The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group."
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Is a socially liberal group that comes to the opposite conclusion that also happens to agree with your bias somehow more credible? At the end of the day, those are doctors presenting their findings. On top of that, in the link, it shows several groups who reach the same conclusion
"Some scientists have voiced concerns that ACPeds mischaracterized or misused their work to advance its political agenda. Gary Remafedi, a pediatrician at the University of Minnesota, wrote ACPeds a public letter accusing them of fundamentally mischaracterizing his research in their publications to argue that schools should deny support to gay teenagers."
It should be an official Pediatricians group like the American Academy of Pediatrics if anything.
Also, everybody on this board knows you are a conservative.Behold my beauty!(edited 2 hours ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...And the APA and AAP are traditionally liberal. They are still doctors. Do their opinions not matter simply because they hold a different opinion as you? They have the same education as other doctors and they disagree with the "mainstream" opinion.
Maybe we need a conservative source to argue against the liberal idea that the Earth is round too.Fun fact: DC Comics is short for Detective Conan Comicsbidas100 posted...Maybe we need a conservative source to argue against the liberal idea that the Earth is round too.
I don't really care. I think gay and lesbian families adopting are better than a child being in foster care, or an orphanage, so it is a net win for the child. However, I also don't think it is smart to write off opinions simply because they disagree with your worldview. Social science studies are flawed, pretty much all of them. It is a widespread epidemic in academia that social science studies are not reproducible. Also, there are outspoken professors that now will ignore "facts" for equality. Those professors tend to be in the social sciences, which leads a lot of people to believe that bias exists in almost all social science studies.
In the end, I find it hard, logically, to believe that an in tact married homosexual couple would be as good as a in tact married heterosexual couple, because the dynamic of a man and woman are different than that of a man/man or woman/woman, and the children get perspectives from both genders. That's not to say that homosexuals cannot be good parents, produce good kids, or be a net positive to children."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. Berger(edited 2 hours ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...bidas100 posted...
Maybe we need a conservative source to argue against the liberal idea that the Earth is round too.
I don't really care. I think gay and lesbian families adopting are better than a child being in foster care, or an orphanage, so it is a net win for the child. However, I also don't think it is smart to write off opinions simply because they disagree with your worldview. Social science studies are flawed, pretty much all of them. It is a widespread epidemic in academia that social science studies are not reproducible. Also, there are outspoken professors that now will ignore "facts" for equality. Those professors tend to be in the social sciences, which leads a lot of people to believe that bias exists in almost all social science studies.
In the end, I find it hard, logically, to believe that an in tact married homosexual couple would be as good as a in tact married heterosexual couple, because the dynamic of a man and woman are different than that of a man/man or woman/woman, and the children get perspectives from both genders. That's not to say that homosexuals cannot be good parents, produce good kids, or be a net negative to children.
Well said!Niko Niko Nii!BoxxyXXXIX posted...https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/10/27/frc-fact-not-opinion-hetero-parents-better-for-kids-than-same-sex-parents
Even the American College of Pediatricians agree
"Even" a sham group specifically created for the sole purpose of agreeing to it agrees to it!
In reality there is literally zero evidence to support the claim that heterosexual couples make better parents.
Wydileie2000 posted...And the APA and AAP are traditionally liberal.
Unlike partisan quack groups like the "American College of of Pediatricians", the APA and AAP are not political.A bad enough dude to save the President.
"We chose more government instead of more freedom." - Marco Rubio (R-Florida) on the Bush administrationRed XlV posted...Unlike partisan quack groups like the "American College of of Pediatricians", the APA and AAP are not political.
They are apolitical, just like groups like SAG are apolitical, but they all put out liberal leaning messages. The APA especially is heavily left leaning in pretty much all its opinions."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. Berger(edited 2 hours ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...Red XlV posted...
Unlike partisan quack groups like the "American College of of Pediatricians", the APA and AAP are not political.
They are apolitical, just like groups like SAG are apolitical, but they all put out liberal leaning messages. The APA especially is heavily left leaning in pretty much all its opinions.
Conservatives being in denial of basic facts doesn't mean that any group stating those facts is "left-leaning".A bad enough dude to save the President.
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Unlike partisan quack groups like the "American College of of Pediatricians", the APA and AAP are not political.
They are apolitical, just like groups like SAG are apolitical, but they all put out liberal leaning messages. The APA especially is heavily left leaning in pretty much all its opinions.
Conservatives being in denial of basic facts doesn't mean that any group stating those facts is "left-leaning".
Social sciences don't have any "basic facts". Psychology studies (particularly the social side) are just biased conjecture that are not reproducible, and therefore not good science. This is a pretty well known problem in the field. Meta studies have been done showing how horribly unreliable they are, such as the following.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/08/psychology-studies-reliability-reproducability-nosek/402466/
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http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797611417632"In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. Berger(edited 1 hour ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...In the end, I find it hard, logically, to believe that an in tact married homosexual couple would be as good as a in tact married heterosexual couple, because the dynamic of a man and woman are different than that of a man/man or woman/woman, and the children get perspectives from both genders. That's not to say that homosexuals cannot be good parents, produce good kids, or be a net positive to children.
That's complete nonsense. It's not like the child will never see men interact with women.Fun fact: DC Comics is short for Detective Conan Comicsbidas100 posted...That's complete nonsense. It's not like the child will never see men interact with women.
I'm sorry I triggered you with an opinion.
Seeing random people and having parents with different perspectives are two completely different things. A man and a woman have two biologically different roles, and general life experiences, than two people of the same sex do. In what world would liberals say that having a wider amount of information and experience available to a child would be bad? There are also things that lesbians could simply not relate to when it comes to sons, and vice versa with gay men and daughters.
Not to mention lesbian households are generally poorer and experience higher rates of domestic abuse than heterosexual households. Gay men are the opposite, though, with higher incomes and lower amounts of domestic abuse."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. Berger(edited 1 hour ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...However, I also don't think it is smart to write off opinions simply because they disagree with your worldview.
We aren't writing them off simply because they disagree with our worldview. We're writing them off because they're stupid. It's easy to prove to yourself that the earth is not flat. You don't even need help. If you view the world as flat, then your worldview is stupid.It's like punching a round bottom dummy. We all know it's futile, but occasionally it's fun.
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However, I also don't think it is smart to write off opinions simply because they disagree with your worldview.
We aren't writing them off simply because they disagree with our worldview. We're writing them off because they're stupid. It's easy to prove to yourself that the earth is not flat. You don't even need help. If you view the world as flat, then your worldview is stupid.
I agree. However, I have shown that psychology studies are not reliable, so there are no "facts" in this case. Not to mention, there have been studies showing both that gay couples raised children offer no differences, and ones that say they do. Basic logic would indicate that children having both genders represented in their household would give the child a broader perspective on men and women and how they relate in the world."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. BergerWydileie2000 posted...mrplainswalker posted...
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However, I also don't think it is smart to write off opinions simply because they disagree with your worldview.
We aren't writing them off simply because they disagree with our worldview. We're writing them off because they're stupid. It's easy to prove to yourself that the earth is not flat. You don't even need help. If you view the world as flat, then your worldview is stupid.
I agree. However, I have shown that psychology studies are not reliable, so there are no "facts" in this case. Not to mention, there have been studies showing both that gay couples raised children offer no differences, and ones that say they do. Basic logic would indicate that children having both genders represented in their household would give the child a broader perspective on men and women and how they relate in the world.
No, not really. It's not like the opposite gender is some rare thing you'll have no idea how to relate to if you don't have one in your immediate family. They're going to have plenty to interact with in their life no matter what.PSN: TheUndying84bidas100 posted...You got upset earlier because I assumed you were a conservative, which was odd since you never said you weren't conservative. It's more like you were offending that I assumed right.
I was neither upset nor offended; I called out your bulls***. You and that other person railed about the "racism," "sexism" and "xenophobia" of conservatives (along with gross misrepresentations of the arguments and words of others) and I called out your hypocrisy given that you were being all of those things. You then threw out the label of "conservative" at me like the only way a person could defend a political ideology is if that person agreed with that ideology, and THEN started ranting about how you "assumed nothing". It's hilarious.
like, you've literally spent time creating a thread to try to discredit my statement, and THEN ARGUED WITH PEOPLE when they DISAGREED WITH YOU. just go ahead and keep believing whatever bulls*** you already do, as no one is EVER going to change your mind.CALVIN AND HOBBES!!!!! If you don't get the reference in this topic, you have been leading a horribly deprived life.-TK_925 about G.R.O.S.S.
Clapton is GOD!The_Undying_84 posted...No, not really. It's not like the opposite gender is some rare thing you'll have no idea how to relate to if you don't have one in your immediate family. They're going to have plenty to interact with in their life no matter what.
You are all telling me there are no specific situations and issues that are better talked about with one gender over another? That you can learn different things from your parents based on their experiences as <insert_gender_here> in life? Come on. You guys are blinded by ideology. I find it hard to believe that you guys think that a teenager, especially, doesn't have any issues they would prefer to talk to someone of their same gender and life experience with. Sure, parents can understand the technical details of something like a menstruation cycle, or the sex drive of a male teenager, but they can't relate."In science as in love, too much concentration on technique can often lead to impotence." -P.L. BergerWydileie2000 posted...I agree. However, I have shown that psychology studies are not reliable, so there are no "facts" in this case. Not to mention, there have been studies showing both that gay couples raised children offer no differences, and ones that say they do. Basic logic would indicate that children having both genders represented in their household would give the child a broader perspective on men and women and how they relate in the world.
Ok, so moving on from flat earth then. What studies show that gay couples raising children causes harm?It's like punching a round bottom dummy. We all know it's futile, but occasionally it's fun.
- willythemailboy on the subject of stray orcasWydileie2000 posted...The_Undying_84 posted...
No, not really. It's not like the opposite gender is some rare thing you'll have no idea how to relate to if you don't have one in your immediate family. They're going to have plenty to interact with in their life no matter what.
You are all telling me there are no specific situations and issues that are better talked about with one gender over another? That you can learn different things from your parents based on their experiences as <insert_gender_here> in life? Come on. You guys are blinded by ideology. I find it hard to believe that you guys think that a teenager, especially, doesn't have any issues they would prefer to talk to someone of their same gender and life experience with. Sure, parents can understand the technical details of something like a menstruation cycle, or the sex drive of a male teenager, but they can't relate.
Or they can just use the internet to answer such questions without ever talking to either parent about it, as the vast majority of teenagers have been doing for more than a decade.
No one ever wanted to have such conversations with their parents and now that they don't have to, they don't.PSN: TheUndying84(edited 56 minutes ago)quoteWydileie2000 posted...bidas100 posted...
That's complete nonsense. It's not like the child will never see men interact with women.
I'm sorry I triggered you with an opinion.
Seeing random people and having parents with different perspectives are two completely different things. A man and a woman have two biologically different roles, and general life experiences, than two people of the same sex do. In what world would liberals say that having a wider amount of information and experience available to a child would be bad? There are also things that lesbians could simply not relate to when it comes to sons, and vice versa with gay men and daughters.
Not to mention lesbian households are generally poorer and experience higher rates of domestic abuse than heterosexual households. Gay men are the opposite, though, with higher incomes and lower amounts of domestic abuse.
I'm not triggered that you think psychological studies are not reliable it they don't make make sense to you. It's like you read a study saying corporal punishment is bad and the your first thing that popped into your mind was: "That doesn't make sense. I read another study that said hitting kids builds character."
soysturm posted...bidas100 posted...
Are you conservative?
I'm going to continue not answering that question.
Ok. At least you proved how smart you are by linking to a hate group.Fun fact: DC Comics is short for Detective Conan ComicsExplain to me why you think my political leanings are relevant to EITHER conversation in this thread or the other one.CALVIN AND HOBBES!!!!! If you don't get the reference in this topic, you have been leading a horribly deprived life.-TK_925 about G.R.O.S.S.
Clapton is GOD!Wydileie2000 posted...Basic logic would indicate that children having both genders represented in their household would give the child a broader perspective on men and women and how they relate in the world.
There's a difference between "basic logic" and your feelings.A bad enough dude to save the President.
"We chose more government instead of more freedom." - Marco Rubio (R-Florida) on the Bush administrationsoysturm posted...Explain to me why you think my political leanings are relevant to EITHER conversation in this thread or the other one.
The topic was titled: A shockingly conservative fanbase for a very progressive show. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/296-doctor-who/75571366 Your first several posts were exclusively about defending conservatism. That's why I assumed you were conservative, then you went, "I never said I was conservative. How dare you assume!" BTW, you kept referring to America as "this country" while you were on a board discussing a British tv show, so maybe you should get your assumptions checked.
Why are you so reluctant to answer such a simple question?Fun fact: DC Comics is short for Detective Conan Comics
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