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Don't they see the irony in this? Republicans are first to scream Christian persecution, but they turn around and persecute LGBTQ community.
They are using religion to justify their own hatred of people who do nothing wrong. All because most of the time an imaginary it in the sky tells them to. Which is wrong separation of church and state. I don't see the point in hating someone just because some men like men and women like women.
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"Persecute"
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For the same reason the racists used to hide behind the "Curse of Ham" to justify their racial hate. They're cowards.
It's a lot easier to say, "God told me to hate you!" and place the blame on some outside source than it is to admit it's personal, because that leads to speculation (which is usually directed their way anyway) about them being insecure and situations of "the lady doth protest too much," etc. Of course, religiously, they have every right to disagree. But when they try to make their personal religious views the law of the land, that's when we've entered the sharia law/theocracy territory and where they cease to agree to disagree and seek instead to be tyrants.
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BlazBBQ posted...
"Persecute" From Google to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs. harass or annoy (someone) persistently Seems to fit. LGBTQ have been persecuted for their ideology by religious people who use their god to justify their hated. And I'm curious why? Don't they see the irony in it?
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God's the ultimate scapegoat. You can pass the blame on to him, and since no-one can hold him accountable, that same immunity rolls back onto his followers (in their minds). Westboro is the perfect illustration, with their mantra of "I don't hate you, God hates you."
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zerooo0 posted...
Why do Conservatives hide behind religion to persecute LGBTQ community? Because they think everyone else will assume their internet history is mostly visits to Bible study forums and Answers in Genesis, when it's really just nothing but gay porn.
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One thing that's rarely discussed about here is members of the same religion discriminating against each other. It could be that they belong to different denominations (e.g. Protestants vs. Catholics, Sunni vs. Shiites) or argue over which ritual or code of conduct is best adhered to. There's just no getting away from prejudice even if you're technically on the same side as your opponent.
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because they know that "gay sex is icky" is a hollow, pathetic defense of their ideas.
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The reality underlying the marriage institution, and the whole reason that the public is interested in it, is the fact that a man and a woman can create new human life. The public doesn't care about your romantic life, and the point of marriage isn't to reward people for being in love. Making it a man-woman thing was and is a way of making it a reproduction thing, ie. for creating stable units that will give kids the best chance of growing up with their biological parents.
It's really, really not about gay people. And sure, we can falsely call their relationships "marriage" to make people feel better or something, but that obscures and undermines the whole reason for marriage existing at all. BUT WHAT ABOUT INFERTILE COUPLES Yeah I get it but you don't know who's going to be infertile, it doesn't make any sense to test for it, and the fact that you're overinclusive for simplicity's and completeness's sake doesn't mean you should be even more overinclusive when you won't even be adding any relationships that fit the whole reason for marriage. Also, it's a stupid objection, because WHAT ABOUT COUPLES WHO DON'T LOVE EACH OTHER isn't a good argument against the (now mainstream) idea that marriage is about love/romance. |
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zerooo0 posted...
BlazBBQ posted..."Persecute" No, they do not, because to them homosexuality is immoral and dangerous, whereas Christianity is the greatest thing ever.
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The reality underlying the marriage institution, and the whole reason that the public is interested in it, is the fact that a man and a woman can create new human life. The public doesn't care about your romantic life, and the point of marriage isn't to reward people for being in love. Making it a man-woman thing was and is a way of making it a reproduction thing, ie. for creating stable units that will give kids the best chance of growing up with their biological parents. nope. marriage is a contractual agreement that allows for an easy transfer and combination of assets. it's not about children. children are a convenient excuse, but historically marriage has served as a way to control money by binding one family to another. at this point marriage also confers numerous benefits on a couple with a license, most of which are financial, so you're advocating financial discrimination. for people who claim to adore property rights, that's pretty blatant hypocrisy. but I know. gay sex is just really really icky!
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zerooo0 posted...
BlazBBQ posted..."Persecute" "Hostility" , "harass", "ill-treatment"
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I'm Jewish, not Christian. Now if the Christians do follow the same book as I do (the five books to them), then they should know the only one of the five books that talked about homosexuality, Leviticus, (Vayikra in the Torah) only mentions 2 men having gay sex being detestable. Nothing on 2 women or just someone begin attracted to the same sex. Nevertheless, my disagreement with homosexual acts doesn't give me an obligation to protest it in front of non-Jews. So really, this whole anti-gay marriage stuff should really just be in the matter of us as individuals and not tell the state to be the boss man. Alabama got rid of state issued marriage licenses all together, (or at least in the process of it) now anybody can determine one another to be married or not, whether its with friends or other private unions and it should be that way everywhere. In fact, a few countries do it, Israel for example has Civil Unions that are private for same-sex and interfaith marriages.
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BlazBBQ posted...
zerooo0 posted...BlazBBQ posted..."Persecute" Everything the religious base of the Republican party does to attack the LGBTQ community. Look no further than North Carolina.
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TheLazyClown posted...
I'm Jewish, not Christian. Now if the Christians do follow the same book as I do (the five books to them), then they should know the only one of the five books, Leviticus, (Vayikra in the Torah) only mentions 2 men having gay sex being detestable. Nothing on 2 women or just someone begin attracted to the same sex. Nevertheless, my disagreement with homosexual acts doesn't give me an obligation to protest it in front of non-Jews. So really, this whole anti-gay marriage stuff should really just be in the matter of us as individuals and not tell the state to be the boss man. Alabama got rid of state issued marriage licenses all together, (or at least in the process of it) now anybody can determine one another to be married or not, whether its with friends or other private unions and it should be that way everywhere. In fact, a few countries do it, Israel for example has Civil Unions that are private for same-sex and interfaith marriages. Are you a sadducee or something? I've not heard of any modern Jewish groups only accepting the Pentateuch. Christians also accept all the books of the Tanach. Do you not?
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The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts.
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alysbrangwin posted...
I-NE-IV posted...The reality underlying the marriage institution, and the whole reason that the public is interested in it, is the fact that a man and a woman can create new human life. The public doesn't care about your romantic life, and the point of marriage isn't to reward people for being in love. Making it a man-woman thing was and is a way of making it a reproduction thing, ie. for creating stable units that will give kids the best chance of growing up with their biological parents. Obviously marriage has served the purpose of keeping property within agnatic lineages in most civilizations, but the whole bloody way it does that is that is by producing offspring. "Marriages" between two men or two women would have made no sense in those civilizations because they would have been fundamentally sterile, and could have brought about no posterity to whom you could pass on your land and possessions. And while marriage has contractual elements, it is not itself a "contract". On the contrary it creates obligations on people outside of the two parties. |
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The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. *eye roll*
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The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. What you are doing here is judging Christians. You complain about people judging people and all you are doing is judging others yourself. And what particular behavior is it that you take offense to?
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BlazBBQ posted...
darkace77450 posted...The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. why can't you tolerate my intolerance?!
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BlazBBQ posted...darkace77450 posted...The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. Should we never be intolerant, then?
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alysbrangwin posted...BlazBBQ posted...darkace77450 posted...The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. Why would you want to be intolerant to people?
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Wes62 posted...
*savagely beats strawmen to feel morally superior* Wes62 posted... *eye roll* You know, you're very good at never contributing anything of substance to the conversation.
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Why do you insist on assuming they're "hiding behind religion" in this case? Isn't it possible that sometimes people actually believe what they say they believe?
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zerooo0 posted...
Wes62 posted...alysbrangwin posted...BlazBBQ posted...darkace77450 posted...The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts. Surely we should be intolerant towards the acts of child molestation, adultery to one's spouse, stealing from another person (intellectual or physical), people in despair trying to harm themselves, child abuse. Certainly simply waving the word intolerance around as if it's a four-lettered-word club is just nonsense and is nothing more than a cheap emotional appeal intended to shame others.
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Mud people, slavery, women from ribs in bondage... you can use the bible to justify any manner of bigotry. In the hands of simple people, it's a powerful tool for persecution.
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mercurydude posted...
Wes62 posted...*savagely beats strawmen to feel morally superior* There is no substance to the conversation. It's a masturbatory circle jerk aimed at strawmen. People lauding themselves for their moral superiority and accusing others of being judgmental and hating, and of course blanket insults to those intellectually inferior religious people. Also condemning Christians on some hippie-liberal conception of Jesus, who certainly dined with sinners, condemned hypocrites, and loved everyone as people, while still feeling comfortable declaring that any man who divorces his wife commits adultery, any man who thinks of another woman commits adultery, condemning fornication and idolatry, and with no qualms about saying he would separate sheep from goats and casting the goats into the eternal fire, and that anyone who did not go to him would not have eternal life and denied God. Basically, Jesus is being turned into a false caricature to hold over others, while ignoring other parts to his character. But no, I'm certain darkace would know exactly what Jesus would do. Yes, we should love all others and treat them with human dignity, but that doesn't mean just being completely permissive.
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There are only TWO THINGS in this world that I hate: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch! "What?" |
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"Deuteronomy doesn't count except when it comes to gays".
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Because Christian Conservatives need to get their way 100% of the time. If they don't, then they're the ones being persecuted.
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TheLazyClown posted...
Wes62 posted...TheLazyClown posted...I'm Jewish, not Christian. Now if the Christians do follow the same book as I do (the five books to them), then they should know the only one of the five books, Leviticus, (Vayikra in the Torah) only mentions 2 men having gay sex being detestable. Nothing on 2 women or just someone begin attracted to the same sex. Nevertheless, my disagreement with homosexual acts doesn't give me an obligation to protest it in front of non-Jews. So really, this whole anti-gay marriage stuff should really just be in the matter of us as individuals and not tell the state to be the boss man. Alabama got rid of state issued marriage licenses all together, (or at least in the process of it) now anybody can determine one another to be married or not, whether its with friends or other private unions and it should be that way everywhere. In fact, a few countries do it, Israel for example has Civil Unions that are private for same-sex and interfaith marriages. @Wes62 EDIT: I deleted original post because I forgot to tag you in it. Just to add your name by editing it wouldn't give the notification.
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TheLazyClown posted...Wes62 posted...TheLazyClown posted...I'm Jewish, not Christian. Now if the Christians do follow the same book as I do (the five books to them), then they should know the only one of the five books, Leviticus, (Vayikra in the Torah) only mentions 2 men having gay sex being detestable. Nothing on 2 women or just someone begin attracted to the same sex. Nevertheless, my disagreement with homosexual acts doesn't give me an obligation to protest it in front of non-Jews. So really, this whole anti-gay marriage stuff should really just be in the matter of us as individuals and not tell the state to be the boss man. Alabama got rid of state issued marriage licenses all together, (or at least in the process of it) now anybody can determine one another to be married or not, whether its with friends or other private unions and it should be that way everywhere. In fact, a few countries do it, Israel for example has Civil Unions that are private for same-sex and interfaith marriages. Thank you for the response. Sorry if the sadducee comment sounded flippant, I was just surprised, but it seems there was a mutual misunderstanding. Except for perhaps an incredibly small minority, Christians consider the entire Tanach as scripture and refer to it as the Old Testament. Catholics accept seven additional books (Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees -- you may have different names for these if you are familiar with them) as part of their Old Testament, and Orthodox Christians accept and some two to four other books (it varies by Orthodox Rite).
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TheLazyClown posted...TheLazyClown posted...Wes62 posted...TheLazyClown posted...I'm Jewish, not Christian. Now if the Christians do follow the same book as I do (the five books to them), then they should know the only one of the five books, Leviticus, (Vayikra in the Torah) only mentions 2 men having gay sex being detestable. Nothing on 2 women or just someone begin attracted to the same sex. Nevertheless, my disagreement with homosexual acts doesn't give me an obligation to protest it in front of non-Jews. So really, this whole anti-gay marriage stuff should really just be in the matter of us as individuals and not tell the state to be the boss man. Alabama got rid of state issued marriage licenses all together, (or at least in the process of it) now anybody can determine one another to be married or not, whether its with friends or other private unions and it should be that way everywhere. In fact, a few countries do it, Israel for example has Civil Unions that are private for same-sex and interfaith marriages. @Wes62 Thanks for letting me know. I was unaware as I mentioned. Oh and don't worry about the sadducee part, wasn't offended at all.
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Christians don't deserve to be persecuted.
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Because it's much easier on their conscience if they're not the bigot, god is.
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This topic would be much more honestly titled "Attention everyone, look at me....I am offended by Christianity."
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LawnNinja posted...
zerooo0 posted...Why do Conservatives hide behind religion to persecute LGBTQ community? I figured that was what your internet history was filled with...
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BlazBBQ posted...
This topic would be much more honestly titled "Attention everyone, look at me....I am offended by Christianity." Probably a better title...
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zerooo0 posted...
Don't they see the irony in this? Republicans are first to scream Christian persecution, but they turn around and persecute LGBTQ community. Has the "LGBT" community ever taken into account the fact that Dr. John Gray, the best relationship author of all time (and author of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus) publicly warned about BPA (bysphenol A) being an estrogen mimicker, and that these toxic chemicals are throughout American society and products en mass?
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It makes Republicans feel insecure in their masculinity Why do you have an interest in violated other mens masculinity? Sounds like kind of a strange motive...
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BlazBBQ posted..."Persecute" That definition seems like what radical, alt. left, extremists do to Trump supporters, doesn't it? |
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so yeah of course they support persecuting LGBTQ community to please their version of god hoping to go to heavenif I'm always right I learn nothing, if I'm wrong twice I learn 2 thingsdarkace77450 posted...The better question is: "why don't Christians do what Jesus would do when it comes to the LGBTQ community?" Jesus would love them as he does everyone else, but in this specific regard Christians don't care what the Christianity thing to do is; hate and judgment and persecution are what's in their hearts.
What I don't ever get is why the Christians who DON'T hate on others don't speak up loudly against those who DO hate. There would be a loud voice against hate if that ever happened. Those who hate would have no choice but to keep their stupid mouths shut after that.slaity posted...they take money away from the poor, take away healthcare from the sick, take away quality education from the kids, take away another person's life by supporting execution, etc
so yeah of course they support persecuting LGBTQ community to please their version of god hoping to go to heaven
What church do you attend where they don't collect money? That money goes to help the community and church mission. They don't piss away money like the government does. We don't have to "tolerate" mandatory income distribution. Government doesn't create jobs, so sucking money out of the private sector will Shri k opportunity for others.
What country do you live in where we have a bustling public school system that gets amazing results for impoverished children? We spend more than almost any other nation yet we get mediocre to poor results. We don't have to "tolerate" horrible teacher performance.
"Supporting execution"?? We support law and order. You can't provide safety if you slap wrists. I'm not saying capital punishment is always justified, but we don't have to "tolerate" festering crime in our neighborhoods.
Liberals hang themselves by their own words. Congrats on your clever wordplay, but there's no substance behind any of it.I melt mobs like cones of ice creamWhat are you guys thoughts on those gender bending frogs?BlazBBQ posted...slaity posted...
they take money away from the poor, take away healthcare from the sick, take away quality education from the kids, take away another person's life by supporting execution, etc
so yeah of course they support persecuting LGBTQ community to please their version of god hoping to go to heaven
What church do you attend where they don't collect money? That money goes to help the community and church mission. They don't piss away money like the government does. We don't have to "tolerate" mandatory income distribution. Government doesn't create jobs, so sucking money out of the private sector will Shri k opportunity for others.
What country do you live in where we have a bustling public school system that gets amazing results for impoverished children? We spend more than almost any other nation yet we get mediocre to poor results. We don't have to "tolerate" horrible teacher performance.
"Supporting execution"?? We support law and order. You can't provide safety if you slap wrists. I'm not saying capital punishment is always justified, but we don't have to "tolerate" festering crime in our neighborhoods.
Liberals hang themselves by their own words. Congrats on your clever wordplay, but there's no substance behind any of it.
Totally agree with your points.
1. why waste taxpayers' money on government, corporation never ever waste money at all and they are so efficient that kicking a doctor out of plane is the best example why private sector is far more superior than public sector... and pollution never actually kill anyone, and hundred of babies with cancers within a year or 2 who live near a factory means it is God's will those babies have cancer; btw if Jesus can walk on water, of course river can catch fire.... it is the way God shows us miracle is real.
2. government should never create jobs just like corporation's goal is job creation and not profit. I totally understand your point.
3. yeah we spent so much money on public education with poor result.... maybe we should vote for party of voucher programs and young earth..... voucher programs can erase problems of public school by removing public school and young earth science can add diversity of science
4. I strongly support execution because our legal system NEVER make a mistake, has ZERO corruption and Bible says "thou shalt not kill" and I only vote for people who kill another people, not actually and physically killing anyone at allif I'm always right I learn nothing, if I'm wrong twice I learn 2 thingsYou realize the reverse is equally true, right?
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