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This was Afghanistan in the 70s, what happened?

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SomeGuyUO 1 week ago#1
DemonBuffet 1 week ago#2
Peaceful religions
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Trigg3rH4ppy 1 week ago#3
We happened
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CarlGrimes 1 week ago#4
What happened was the CIA and islam.
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wasserpanzer 1 week ago#5
USA and USSR decided it was a good playground
Tezlok 1 week ago#6
they had an Islamic revolution that took over the country and changed the rules. the girls in that picture are still there, now wearing veils and they probably hate how history turned out.
CrimsonRage 1 week ago#7
Soviet invasion happened
FLUFFYGERM 1 week ago#8
islam took over
Trigg3rH4ppy 1 week ago#9
DemonBuffet posted...
Peaceful religions

Biproduct of destabilization. Muslim extremism is just a vehicle for regime change and anarchy.
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Two_Dee  likes me1 week ago#10
WTF Amy Winehouse was alive int he 70s?
Nomadic View  tear this gooby up1 week ago#11
Tezlok posted...
they had an Islamic revolution that took over the country and changed the rules. the girls in that picture are still there, now wearing veils and they probably hate how history turned out.


I doubt they survived it.
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Master_Bass 1 week ago#12
The Soviets went in and messed the country up, and we funded religious extremists that became our enemies.
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Philoktetes 1 week ago#13
the soviet union wsa the greatest evil ever to befall the earth
I don't think so, Tim.
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3khc 1 week ago#14
That's a fake pic taken from the california bay area
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It's surprising how many people think that normal Muslims just decided to up and destroy their prosperous country one day without any outside interference. Pick up a history book.
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CrimsonRage 1 week ago#16
FLUFFYGERM posted...
islam took over


Islam was already there.
NeonOctopus 1 week ago#17
Philoktetes 1 week ago#18
notice how all the women in the 70s were wearing skirts that revealed their bare knees
I don't think so, Tim.
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Offworlder1 1 week ago#19
I believe you can thank the soviets for what happened.
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Axiom 1 week ago#20
Master_Bass posted...
The Soviets went in and messed the country up, and we funded religious extremists that became our enemies.
butthole666  self proclaimed mentally ill1 week ago#21
American/Russian imperialism and radical Islam (which was a tool used by the US and USSR to fuel instability). 

Be sure to note the bolded, btw.
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So basically, we created our own Islam problem. :v Shit.
UnholyMudcrab  needs big 31 week ago#23
FLUFFYGERM posted...
islam took over


ITP: Islam never existed in Afganistan in the past.
NadYobWoc 1 week ago#25
The Soviets invaded, so the US funded and trained religious extremists (including Bin Laden himself) to fight a guerilla war against them. The Soviets got pushed out, but the crazies needed an enemy so they turned on us.

So essentially, the cold war happened.
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Bat178 1 week ago#26
The Soviets.
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FLUFFYGERM 1 week ago#27
CrimsonRage posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
islam took over


Islam was already there.


do you know how to read? i didnt say islam moved in. i said it took over.
Garioshi 1 week ago#28
FLUFFYGERM posted...
islam took over

Right. As we all know, Afghanistan used to be an exemplary Christian nation.
lilJoe457 1 week ago#29
The CIA and Saudi Arabia plan to destabilize the middle east happened.
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glitteringfairy  gun baiter1 week ago#31
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You're already perfect dawg
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I'm pretty sure this was not a normal sight all over Afghanistan, especially not in the rural areas, which the overwhelming part of the country comprises of. It has always been a very tribal society. It's true that the situation has indeed worsened now.
Ibrahim529 1 week ago#33

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hockeybub89 1 week ago#35
CADE FOSTER 1 week ago#36
Master_Bass posted...
The Soviets went in and messed the country up, and we funded religious extremists that became our enemies.
E32005 1 week ago#37
Same shit with Iran
Slow and steady wins the race
xxdudeyy 1 week ago#39
Islam
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UnholyMudcrab  needs big 31 week ago#40
xxdudeyy posted...
Islam

Afghanistan has been Muslim for over a thousand years
CADE FOSTER 1 week ago#41
CADE FOSTER posted...
Master_Bass posted...
The Soviets went in and messed the country up, and we funded religious extremists that became our enemies.
CADE FOSTER posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Master_Bass posted...
The Soviets went in and messed the country up, and we funded religious extremists that became our enemies.
It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.
wasserpanzer posted...
It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.
wasserpanzer posted...
USA and USSR decided it was a good playground


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AffligemFR 4 days ago#46
Islam became obsessed with regressive attitudes.
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Asherlee10 4 days ago#47
BalisticWarri0r posted...
wasserpanzer posted...
It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.


Enlighten us
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DreadedWave 4 days ago#48
Asherlee10 posted...
BalisticWarri0r posted...
wasserpanzer posted...
It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.


Enlighten us

I think he's referring to the the people saying Islam as if it didn't already exist in the country.
Sativa_Rose 4 days ago#49
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    FLUFFYGERM 4 days ago#51
    DreadedWave posted...
    Asherlee10 posted...
    BalisticWarri0r posted...
    wasserpanzer posted...
    It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.


    Enlighten us

    I think he's referring to the the people saying Islam as if it didn't already exist in the country.


    nobody said islam didn't already exist
    --kresnik-- 4 days ago#52
    CarlGrimes posted...
    What happened was the CIA and islam.
    And that's the bottom line, cuz southcoast said so. 
    If you sit for the anthem, then you sit for the game.
    What happened was first world countries and imperialism, the root of all modern political problems.

    The brits were paranoid that the russians would take over afghanistan and use it as a launch pad for their influence and attacks against their colonies in india, so they sent spies and troops to the area. The russians were, obviously, in the same boat and also sent spies to investigate. After a while the brits decided to invade and failed miserably. This went on for a while and came to be known as, "the great game".

    Some time later king amanullah had enough of this shit and declared independence and tried to reform the country. Got rid of the burqa, made education mandatory for both genders and abolished slavery. Apparently all the conservatives didn't like all these crazy new ideas and assassinated him. RIP real progress.

    Fast forward to the cold war, USSR and USA try to play, "the great game" round 2 and the rest is pretty much history. I think you guys are more or less familiar with the rest of the political machinations by both parties.

    Also for some reason a lot of you keep bringing up islam or radical islam, but like others have said that was there long before imperialism came to ruin the day. Religion was just another device they used to help them manipulate the geopolitical climate. Exact same thing would have happened if they were zoroastrian/tengri/etc.
    I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.
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    hockeybub89 4 days ago#56
    Pow Pow Punishment posted...
    I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.

    If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?
    hockeybub89 posted...
    Pow Pow Punishment posted...
    I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.

    If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?

    this

    Pow Pow Punishment posted...
    after being empowered by the west

    you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance
    hockeybub89 posted...
    If people came into America and f***ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?

    Both. Blame should go on the enablers and the actors. It'd be crazy to eschew responsibility for either one.

    Edit: your analogy isn't actually applicable in its wording. I'm blaming 1. outside influencers and 2. fundamentalists, not "Islam" as a mere ideology. So you would have to change that to "Would you blame the fundamentalist Christians?", not "Would you blame Christianity?"

    wasserpanzer posted...
    you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance

    It's disingenuous to say the Taliban regime enjoyed "popular acceptance" and that's why they ruled the country. We need to look at the history to find out why they were more powerful than Ahmad Shah Massoud's secular, moderate forces coming out of the Soviet war. Massoud's fundamentalist nemesis, Hekmatyar, received more CIA support even though Massoud was MUCH more effective at fighting the Soviets. Come the American invasion, a majority of polled Afghans supported overthrowing the Taliban oppressors with their foreign Arab bedfellows.

    Anyway, like I said, one isn't mutually exclusive from the other. External influence and religious extremism are both to blame.
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    Pow Pow Punishment posted...
    External influence and religious extremism are both to blame.

    agreed. im just putting the majority of the blame on external influence.
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    The cold war happened
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    Pow Pow Punishment posted...
    hockeybub89 posted...

    If people came into America and f***ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?

    Both.

    ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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    mortimerjames 8 hours ago#64
    So basically it's like GOT spoilers

    Cersei empowering that religious nutjob
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    RickyTheBAWSE 7 hours ago#65
    interference from the powers who we deny the existence of.
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    wasserpanzer posted...
    USA and USSR decided it was a good playground
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    RE_expert44 7 hours ago#67
    Dark_SilverX posted...
    Their women are so damn sexy

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    scorpion41 7 hours ago#68
    Destabilization and Islam.
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