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You, yeah you.
The types that say I'm conservative or liberal. Can you name some view(s) you have that doesn't fit into the typical mold of your political side? For example, a conservative against guns or a liberal against gay rights. I know it'd be easier to just say left or right wing, but people don't exactly call themselves that. I often get a lot of shit for being a slightly left leaning centrist, but I've always figured I pick the best of both sides (detest identity politics, loathe absolutely everything about gun culture and the 2nd amendment and regularly mock left wing virtue signalling to name a few). <3 tl;dr: Say you have 90% conservative views, what is the 10% of liberal/lefty ones you hold (and vice versa).
Gavirulax
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I'm liberal but pretty critical of Islam, and am pretty pro gun rights as well (although I hold a pretty moderate view on guns as a whole)
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I am critical of all religions, hate the Democratic Party, hate SJWs, say the n-word at times, and don't have an issue with guns being prolific.
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Libertarian, but:
-want far-reaching environmental protection (especially w/r/t climate change) -believe in "laboratories of democracy" to a certain degree (i.e. the more local the government, the more experimental it should be permitted to be) -in favor of gradual change and compromise (as opposed to instantaneously eliminating federal gov't programs)
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Samurontai posted...
I'm liberal but pretty critical of Islam, and am pretty pro gun rights as well (although I hold a pretty moderate view on guns as a whole) Well I'm obviously extremely critical of Islam (and still find it baffling how this fits in with the left, other than extreme ignorance to what Islam really is), but yeah, guns....ugh.
Gavirulax
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Samurontai posted...I'm liberal but pretty critical of Islam, and am pretty pro gun rights as well (although I hold a pretty moderate view on guns as a whole) Yeah, I never got the lefts love for Islam, either really. It makes absolutely zero sense when you look at the other narratives they try to push. As for guns, let's just say I'm basically of the opinion that things are alright as they are now, as far as laws go. Maybe a few tweaks could be made, but both sides try to push their ideas way too far |
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I'd likely be described by some on this board as far right.
- Pro gay marriage - Pro abortion up to reasonable period (yet also pro death penalty--mainly because of their freedom restrictions while on death row) - Would consider universal health care - I have no religious affiliation - Am generally tolerant of some "wacky" or "unconventional" behaviors or tastes, though I may still poke fun.
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I definitely feel as though the left can be a bit crazy with over sensitivity and censorship and the like, and other elements of so called SJW culture are pretty dumb, things like safe spaces.
I don't really give a fuck about guns for the most part. Something definitely needs to be done about gun violence in America but I'm not really informed enough on gun control to say wether or not gun control is the best or most effective way to handle that.
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I'm a conservative who believes in federal legalization and regulation of marijuana (making it a crime to discriminate in drug tests for medical users). I also think that minimum wage workers should pay ZERO PERCENT income tax (and no, I don't work at minimum wage).
And that's the bottom line, cuz southcoast said so.
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I really have no idea what each side thinks but I believe I took some quiz one day and it was like 50/50.
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Conservative
-Pro marijuana legalization -pro gay marriage -pro separation of church and state -pro green energy Maybe some more, but those are the stances off the top of my head that go against the grain of general conservatism.
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- Like a lot of people I'm "left" but don't really understand why being critical of Islamic culture is considered a right wing thing culturally speaking. I extend that same criticism to hasidic jews, and no - I don't think they're equally comparable to christianity in the west, and feel it's disingenuous to say so.
- I'm not necessarily about gun control the way the left typically is about gun control. Something needs to change but I also don't think the "ban guns" argument makes any real world sense in America. Guns seem too culturally entrenched to take them away from people and I feel you'll have a prohibition type problem if you try. - I feel safe spaces are an affront to all the values that the democrats used to stand for and many on the left really have gone off the deep end in some respects. - I don't think" punching Nazis" in today's climate is an effective strategy for dealing with Nazis, and I abhor the arguments that says that makes me a Nazi sympathiser. I think you have to be unquestionably dense to make that quantum leap. I don't feel remotely bad for the Nazi when he does get punched, though. - I enjoy a good Trump bash as much as the next person but feel his twitter game is just a distraction from real problems, and too many on the left make that the sole focus of their rage which helps blur the relevance of his biggest transgressions - I think veganism is a mistake, although I respect if someone wants to do it. I also don't necessarily have a good argument for why I feel that way, I just sort of have a gut feeling about it (and appreciate that's probably not very smart). - I think liberals can be guilty of a rather insidious form of classism. While we don't say things like "get a job hippie" and we're not preaching to widen the wage gap, we do tend to think that working class white people are somehow not worthy of free thought.
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--kresnik-- posted...
I'm a conservative who believes in federal legalization and regulation of marijuana (making it a crime to discriminate in drug tests for medical users). I also think that minimum wage workers should pay ZERO PERCENT income tax (and no, I don't work at minimum wage). Well since it appears you have a soul, why would you call yourself conservative? |
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pinky0926 posted...
- Like a lot of people I'm "left" but don't really understand why being critical of Islamic culture is considered a right wing thing culturally speaking. I extend that same criticism to hasidic jews, and no - I don't think they're equally comparable to christianity in the west, and feel it's disingenuous to say so. That's the one I've been called far-right and even alt-right over the most lol.
Gavirulax
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
--kresnik-- posted...I'm a conservative who believes in federal legalization and regulation of marijuana (making it a crime to discriminate in drug tests for medical users). I also think that minimum wage workers should pay ZERO PERCENT income tax (and no, I don't work at minimum wage). We cannot ignore the inevitable impact that mass immigration will have, especially tens of thousands of people. I'm also tired of the sjw crap and I feel that the left has been emphasizing racism so much that it has forced it back on people's minds. I don't think our tax dollars need to go to sex change operations when people are dying on the street. That segues into my main issue, being that the Democratic Party seems to have abandoned or replaced its traditional values. They should be focusing on people who need medical treatment rather than people who want it. This kind of thing made me switch political affiliation.
And that's the bottom line, cuz southcoast said so.
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I'll also chime in that i'm a liberal who doesn't like the defense Islam has from some of the Left. although I do think it's just a loud minority, and my criticism is essentially because it's a religion in general, I still differ
I also am more moderate in my views towards gun control. I do agree in some level of control, but I do also think that since it's a right and that there's a lot of evidence that many laws wouldn't stop the mass shootings we have, it's not worth the political points for democrats to push for it |
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I'm middle ground. There's some things on both side I like and dislike. For example, I think abortions are wrong, however its a woman's right what she wants to do with her body.
I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you.
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Nomadic View posted...
Conservative Im pretty similar to this. Except Id say Im not so much "pro" as much as "I dont really care if its legal or not because it doesnt really affect me".
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Capn Circus posted...
I'd likely be described by some on this board as far right. Sounds like you'd be more moderate than anything else.
"Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."
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I would say I'm left leaning, but hate the democrats (minus a few exceptions like Franken and occasionally Sanders), hate Hillary (but still hate Trump more), wish liberals would shut up about political correctness, hate talking about gender issues (I want them to have equal rights, I just wish it didn't have to be a political issue), don't believe in raising minimum wage, don't have a strong opinion on BLM either way, and I'm staunchly against college campuses rioting in protest of guys like Milo and Coulter no matter how badly I hate them too.
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Asherlee10 posted...
Capn Circus posted...I'd likely be described by some on this board as far right. Pretty much the same. I do not have a set limit on abortion though because I'm not 100 percent sure. Probably learning more towards not after the first trimester unless it's to save the life of the parent etc.
DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding.
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I consider my self conservative but disagree with a fair amount of things... I just think that my views are what conservatives SHOULD be, lol.
ie, pro gay marriage, because why should the government restrict things like that? --"pro" kneeling for anthem. Not that I "like" it, but it should absolutely be allowed and forcing patriotism is insane, conservatives should be 100% against that --abortion sucks but there are crappy times where the lesser of two evils is still pretty bad, and should be legal --I like guns and all but my understanding of a "well regulated militia" doesn't have anything to do with owning an armory. I'm okay with people having those I suppose, just not sure exactly what that has to do with 2nd amendment entirely. --I fully realize Trump is a joke president and far less of a conservative than the average republican --some "green" initiatives are dumb, but some are good and there is no reason to be against them just because they tend to have mostly liberal support --I'm religious. Religion can be great. YAY RELIGION!!! But it should have nothing directly to do with laws and how things are governed or whatever. --The Affordable Care Act is a disaster for me and pretty much everyone I know, but I'm not just flat out opposed to some type of universal healthcare, it just has to actually work and not suck and cost me thousands and thousands extra every year. --Marvel>>>>DC
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The Top Crusader posted...
I consider my self conservative but disagree with a fair amount of things... I just think that my views are what conservatives SHOULD be, lol. That was pretty much my thoughts for a long time. In college, they taught that conservative is basically for those who want a small government, liberals want a larger government. So to me, conservatives should want the government to stay out of as much as possible, which is 100% what I believe. But Republicans don't actually seem to think that, so for a while I thought I was a libertarian. But these days they're just a cooky joke of a party and Gary Johnson is a buffoon. And Ron Paul couldn't have been that good of a libertarian if Rand Paul is his offspring. So I finally decided I'm just a moderate liberal.
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libertarian who supports a tax on pollution and a redistributive welfare state
or a liberal who supports deregulation (esp. at the state and local level) and balancing the budget
He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
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my sympathies are primarily anarcho-communist, but I also recognize that, realistically, the workers' state advocated by Marx and Lenin is probably necessary in order for the society to have any hope of defending itself from the inevitable US intervention.
unless the US has an internal revolution first, or simultaneously
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averagejoel posted...
the workers' state advocated by Marx and Lenin is probably necessary in order for the society to have any hope of defending itself from the inevitable US intervention. literally adovcating socialism in one country averagejoel is a stalinist
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Balrog0 posted...
averagejoel posted...the workers' state advocated by Marx and Lenin is probably necessary in order for the society to have any hope of defending itself from the inevitable US intervention. no I'm not Stalin was imperialist
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I'm moderate, but I could share my hates of both sides.
Liberal: - The social justice movements are so disorganized that it sometimes leads to anarchy. - The inability to recognize the actual dangers of letting people from the Middle East into the US. They don't believe in equality for anyone or anything over there. They would not transition into our society well and there have been points such as acid attacks on women in Europe that prove this. - How they visually make fools of themselves in dress. Rainbow hair colors, video game shirts, ear gauges.... the inability to appear presentable or professional. - The inability to take fucking jokes. I make a black joke, gay joke, middle eastern joke..... it's just a joke. There's a limit to a joke, but there should be a fair level of tolerance. Liberals hold little to none. Conservative: - The inability to just ignore LGBT people. I don't see the issue in serving them. They are income and it wouldn't make you go against your Bible. - Blind leadership. So many conservatives put too much faith into their leaders to the point they cannot accept flaws. There have been too many videos of Trump supporters who no matter what he does, would forever follow him. This goes with a great number of the party and it is dangerous. - The picking and choosing of what to follow. "I don't believe in science, climate change, or transgenderism, but I believe in the X and Y chromosome as well as anything else that benefits my beliefs. This also goes under Bible rules when I had pre-marital sex and wore polyester with cotton." Both sides suck. If you are self-aligned with either side and fail to take notice of your party's flaws, you are a moron. If you cannot be friends with someone because they are a liberal or conservative, you are part of the problem. People have different views. People will always have different views. Get used to it. This is why I love Bill Maher. He is a liberal who will bitch out liberals for being "whiny" and happily invites conservatives on his show to prevent bias views..... he welcomes debate..... I love it.
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