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https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/10/06/dr-seuss-museum-will-remove-mural-after-authors-object-to-racial-stereotype
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Dr Seuss? More like Dr. Hitler!
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Lol, holy shit. I can’t wait for this whole “I’m offended so every person in the world should be offended” crap ends.
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it is obviously offensive in 2017 Is it really though? Maybe it is for the 'always offended at everything minority', but screw them - they'll never be content and will always find something to gripe about.
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this is why trump won
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Rika_Furude posted...
this is why trump won Trump gets triggered just as easily as these losers
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AffligemFR posted...
it is obviously offensive in 2017 It's literally the chinese version of golliwogs and people said the exact same thing back then ("it's just a childrens toy, what's the big deal you hippies"), so it shouldn't be hard to figure out why that would be hurtful to chinese people. Maybe you're just taking the "it doesn't offend me so what's the issue" stance?
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Is this well-known local story offensive too :<
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Rika_Furude posted...
this is why trump won You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him? Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
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Lmao. In just a few months liberals went from "confederate monuments belong in museums, not out in public" to "Dr Seuss is so racist that his illustrations can't even stay up in museums". They're now snowflaking at an exponential rate.
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It mostly seems like conservatives overblowing one person's opinion and making it seem like there's some big movement about this.
There isn't.
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
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snowflakes
snowflaking libruls! gosh these buzzwords are hard to keep up with, seems like republicans spend all day looking for stories that have nothing to do with them to be outraged about
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tbf, Dr. Seuss drew a lot of racist shit
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Gamer99z posted...
Rika_Furude posted...this is why trump won quick q do you support hillary |
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pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...it is obviously offensive in 2017 The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes, they do have slanted eyes, yes they do generally use chopsticks and as for the hat? Probably not. So... 2 out of 3 stereotypical mannerisms, hardly slanderous or even slightly offensive.
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pinky0926 posted...
snowflakes Doesn't it?
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oh no, the Librulz triggered somebody enough to make a topic about it.
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AffligemFR posted...
The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes, they do have slanted eyes, yes they do generally use chopsticks and as for the hat? Probably not. This could be a word-for-word defense of golliwogs someone made in the 90s. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/52/b9/b952b9be5fcaef4633867ad03a6d6182.jpg The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes they do have big fat stupid grins. Yes they do have coal black skin and afro hair. And as for the minstrel costume? Probably not. So...3 out of 4 stereotypical mannerisms, hardly slanderous of even slightly offensive.
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pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes, they do have slanted eyes, yes they do generally use chopsticks and as for the hat? Probably not. It's only offensive if you view your personal ethnic traits as negative. You have to be unhappy with your roots if you find such caricatures offensive. Most people should revel in their ethnic differences and be able to poke a little fun in other types and even their own when compared to others People are too thin skinned these days and literally findthe littlest things offensive. I think it's rather pathetic tbh.
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Lol, when liberals get exposed for their ridiculous extremism (like wanting to remove Dr Seuss art from a museum) they shift their focus to attacking the messenger.
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Did you just say illegally block someone on Twitter? Jesus Steve Schives, criminal mastermind.
This coming from the same side that views unapproved . replies as harassment, lololol. On topic, no shit. This is what happens in a moral panic. They'll tantrum until it's over and hopefully not ruin too many bystanders lives.
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Lol, when liberals get exposed for their ridiculous extremism (like wanting to remove Dr Seuss art from a museum) they shift their focus to attacking the messenger. Kineth posted... It mostly seems like conservatives overblowing one person's opinion and making it seem like there's some big movement about this.
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
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AffligemFR posted...
pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes, they do have slanted eyes, yes they do generally use chopsticks and as for the hat? Probably not. you know images like those come from an era when Asian and black people weren't seen as equal to whites, right, and that their purpose was to demean them with exaggerated and stereotypical features it's easy to say that people should be less "thin skinned", but there's a long history attached to those caricatures that remind people of how they were regarded by the majority, and to them, it doesn't feel good
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AffligemFR posted...
It's only offensive if you view your personal ethnic traits as negative. There should be some subreddit like "things white people say" for commentary like this, lol. Look, it's got nothing to do with low self esteem. People don't like being turned into caricatures by other people. Racism isn't simply a matter of "he said a mean thing about black people". It's a lot more like "he thinks black people have a certain place in society and it's ok to discriminate on that basis". It doesn't even have to be about mean or negative stereotypes. One of the biggest problems with racism in the last century was the benevolent racism that divided people on the basis like "well black people are good at sports and music, whereas white people are good at business and academia". The harmfulness of that goes both ways. Maybe instead of thinking "I don't see the problem, therefore there is no problem", try instead thinking "how could accepting these sorts of stereotypes be harmful to asian people".
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Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this.
Half the problems stem from the modern notion that we are all the same. Well, we're not. We are different, and we should be celebrating these differences on all sides, from all ethnicities. That includes satire and lampoonery. It is this kind of attitude that breaks down barriers not the other imo.
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pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...It's only offensive if you view your personal ethnic traits as negative. Watch out, people may start calling you an SJW now. And that is the most devastating insult in the history of the world.
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AffligemFR posted...
Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. If you want to break down barriers perhaps try talking to some asian people about this issue and try to understand why they might possibly find it hurtful. It doesn't do any good to adopt a "you just need to grow thicker skin" mentality when you might not understand the reasons someone would be upset. Celebrating differences is one thing. We have different cultures, different cuisines, different attitudes on various issues, different music and art. Celebrating differences is not "haha, look at the slanty eye".
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AffligemFR posted...
Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. it comes off as offensive, though, if the person satirizing you race is not of your race. that's not celebrating others, when you're making a joke of and/or mocking their features
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pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. I said celebrating includes satire not exclusively satire.
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boxington posted...
AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. Well it's offensive to certain people, at least. Even though I'm full Japanese, I can assure you that I know the slanted eyes/chopsticks stereotype quite well. And hell, people call me Daniel-san all the time, followed by some faux karate moves. The thing is...I couldn't care less about any of that; it's just some lighthearted fooling around that I take no offense to. I get that some thin skinned people might, but hey, that's their choice. I'm much happier seeing the lighter side of things than if I were to be offended by everything.
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boxington posted...
AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. I don't get offended when people take the piss out of my French heritage. All the snail eating jokes, cheese eating surrender monkey jokes.. It just banter and imo, absolutely harmless. You just dish it back, rather than cry about it. Makes you look pathetic if you can't see the funny side and just adopt the 'I'm offended' stance as a default.
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AffligemFR posted...
I said celebrating includes satire not exclusively satire. Satire is too kind a word for children's toys made to exaggerate all the "darky" stereotypical traits that were held about black people at the time.
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...
boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. Exactly this my friend. Exactly this.
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pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...I said celebrating includes satire not exclusively satire. Not all the stereotypes made back then were bad, nor where they all completely without merit/substance. Just as not all of them were good, or with any merit/substance.
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Rika_Furude posted...
Gamer99z posted...Rika_Furude posted...this is why trump won Support? Definitely not. But when given the option between generic copy/paste politician #3567 and literal Donald Trump, I can't help but consider her the lesser of two evils like any rational person should.
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AffligemFR posted...
boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. there's a difference between mocking someone's culture and stereotypical features attributed to a group
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AffligemFR posted...
pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...I said celebrating includes satire not exclusively satire. It's like you glossed over this post: It doesn't even have to be about mean or negative stereotypes. One of the biggest problems with racism in the last century was the benevolent racism that divided people on the basis like "well black people are good at sports and music, whereas white people are good at business and academia". The harmfulness of that goes both ways. Look up "benevolent racism", there's a lot of literature on the topic.
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Dr. Seuss was cool with the Japanese internment, let’s not pretend he wasn’t a paranoid racist. Is it really hard to see why someone would be bothered by an exhibit that seems to glorify Dr. Seuss’s racism? I personally think a museum is a fine place for it, especially because the exhibit can explain and demonstrate how even a beloved children’s author can have a shit streak.
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pinky0926 posted...
The harmfulness of that goes both ways. And what harm is that?
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boxington posted...
AffligemFR posted...boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. There isn't that much of a difference. Just man up.
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pinky0926 posted...The harmfulness of that goes both ways. I don't like being pigeonholed into being a good athlete or musician simply because of my skin color and at the same time, it's annoying when people act surprised when I speak of high end subject matter with ease, as if it's a rarity. On the flip side, I would expect that white people, who are good athletes, don't like being underestimated or judged prematurely on their skill due to their race.
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Kineth posted...
pinky0926 posted...snowflakes Lol you think people have to actually look for stupid shit the SJW'S do? People can hardly get away from it for 1 day. You guys seem butthurt about this topic.
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AffligemFR posted...
boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. yea, let's all ignore historical context, and "man up" great advice 🙄
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another of Seuss's "masterpieces"
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boxington posted...
AffligemFR posted...boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...boxington posted...AffligemFR posted...Look I don't mean to sound dismissive about this, I just know I have hugely different views on this. In fact 'stop living in the past' is good advice. If you keep harping on over stuff that happened ages ago, then how will you ever learn to let it go?
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it's not "harping on the past", it's that things don't form in a vacuum. things have certain meanings because of their initial intention.
if a figure of a person is drawn in a certain way, to be offensive, for example, and people continue to draw it in that way, that form's intention doesn't just change and people typically don't enjoy behind mocked because of their race
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boxington posted...
it's not "harping on the past", it's that things don't form in a vacuum. things have certain meanings because of their initial intention. Dude he’s just trolling
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boxington posted...it's not "harping on the past", it's that things don't form in a vacuum. things have certain meanings because of their initial intention.
if a figure of a person is drawn in a certain way, to be offensive, for example, and people continue to draw it in that way, that form's intention doesn't just change
Words and contexts change all the time.You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8that's true, but not all.
and the meaning doesn't really change when it comes to what I'm talking aboutb-bb-boxCarlGrimes posted...pinky0926 posted...
The harmfulness of that goes both ways.
And what harm is that?
Kineth already said it. I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone assumed you were rich and had an easy life because you're white, or that you never experience abuse or hardship because you're a man, or that it's your job to provide for a woman because you make more money than them.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgpinky0926 posted...CarlGrimes posted...
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The harmfulness of that goes both ways.
And what harm is that?
Kineth already said it. I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone assumed you were rich and had an easy life because you're white, or that you never experience abuse or hardship because you're a man, or that it's your job to provide for a woman because you make more money than them.
I wouldn't be annoyed one bit. More like...intrigued, as to what made them think that.The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.monkeysRfunny posted...pinky0926 posted...
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The harmfulness of that goes both ways.
And what harm is that?
Kineth already said it. I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone assumed you were rich and had an easy life because you're white, or that you never experience abuse or hardship because you're a man, or that it's your job to provide for a woman because you make more money than them.
I wouldn't be annoyed one bit. More like...intrigued, as to what made them think that.
Would you be annoyed if such attitudes had serious real world consequences to you, such as
- being turned down for a job because it's assumed you probably don't need one as much as someone else
- being dismissed in court for the restraining order you're trying to put on your ex girlfriend because no one believed your domestic abuse account
- losing your house and the kids in the divorce and paying obscene alimony because it's assumed you'll be fine and it's the woman who needs help and supportCE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 6 days ago)pinky0926 posted...I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone assumed you were rich and had an easy life because you're white, or that you never experience abuse or hardship because you're a man, or that it's your job to provide for a woman because you make more money than them.
Yeah, but who cares? If anything I would make some smartass joke.You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8pinky0926 posted...- being turned down for a job because it's assumed you probably don't need one as much as someone else
- being dismissed in court for the restraining order you're trying to put on your ex girlfriend because no one believed your domestic abuse account
- losing your house and the kids in the divorce and paying obscene alimony because it's assumed you'll be fine and it's the woman who needs help and support
- I would be upset, but that's due to the fact that the people hiring are very unprofessional. The person who gets the job should be the person who's best suited for it, not who "needs" it. This has nothing to do with stereotypes; you're just giving an example of a bad hiring dude.
- Trying to go to court with no evidence/witnesses isn't a good idea...
- That's just plain stupid. Are you seriously saying that they wouldn't even compare income before determining alimony?The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.Didn’t Trump win because white people were sick of being made fun of? Or did people already give up on that narrative?Support local music.
But not if it sucks.monkeysRfunny posted...- I would be upset, but that's due to the fact that the people hiring are very unprofessional. The person who gets the job should be the person who's best suited for it, not who "needs" it. This has nothing to do with stereotypes; you're just giving an example of a bad hiring dude.
And if you encountered this problem on a consistent basis because apparently "bad hiring" is not an isolated incident? For example, if you had to consider changing your name because your white sounding christian name leads people to stereotype you in a negative way?
This is not a hypothetical thing, by the way. Mexicans encounter this problem all the time. People not wanting to hire "José" unless it's for a cleaning position, so they change it to "John" and end up getting significantly more callbacks.- Trying to go to court with no evidence/witnesses isn't a good idea...
Are you literally victim blaming yourself in this scenario? I'm telling you that they have a negative attitude towards you for no reason other than the fact that you're a man, and their own prejudice is that you couldn't have been abused.
Don't even try to tell me you wouldn't feel hard done by if people already made up their minds of your guilt/innocence the second they saw your face and not because of any evidence.- That's just plain stupid. Are you seriously saying that they wouldn't even compare income before determining alimony?
Are you saying that men never have to pay out obscene alimony they can barely afford?
I think at this point you're just arguing to be contrary. No way in hell you support a system that spins out unjust divorces and domestic abuse convictions.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 6 days ago)So Chinese specific items and slanted eyes, which is basically a trait every Chinese person has is offensive? Shouldn't Chinese people be offended that snowflakes see their uniqueness as offensive? Fucking hypocrites to the point of stupidity.Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves
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this is why trump won
this is why anyone who supported hillary doesn't deserve an opinion
You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him?
Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
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do you support hillary
Support? Definitely not.
But when given the option between generic copy/paste politician #3567 and literal Donald Trump, I can't help but consider her the lesser of two evils like any rational person should.
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it doesnt seem like you are entitled to an opinion......Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...So Chinese specific items and slanted eyes, which is basically a trait every Chinese person has is offensive? Shouldn't Chinese people be offended that snowflakes see their uniqueness as offensive? Fucking hypocrites to the point of stupidity.
Which is what I said earlier. It's like being offended by your own ethnic traits. It's the definition of idiocyMassive walking dead fan :)I know plenty of Chinese people without slanted eyes. Saying that every Chinese person has those features only supports pinky's argument.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...So Chinese specific items and slanted eyes, which is basically a trait every Chinese person has is offensive? Shouldn't Chinese people be offended that snowflakes see their uniqueness as offensive? Fucking hypocrites to the point of stupidity.
It's funny too because liberals are completely fine with redneck caricatures that are still used in comics, cartoons, etc. But heaven forbid a Dr Seuss illustration is hanging up in a museum."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeI'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I am saying that it's wrong based on hiring guidelines.
Court decisions are supposed to be made based on factual evidence, not "negative attitude". Bring in someone who saw the abuse, or better yet recorded it, and no matter how negative the perspective, you're not going to lose.
Are you saying that women never have to pay out obscene alimony they can barely afford?
But see, now we're having this little discussion on these three specific examples rather than the initial topic, which was asking if I would be annoyed if things were assumed about me, to which I answered no.The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.Rika_Furude posted...Gamer99z posted...
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this is why trump won
this is why anyone who supported hillary doesn't deserve an opinion
You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him?
Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
quick q
do you support hillary
Support? Definitely not.
But when given the option between generic copy/paste politician #3567 and literal Donald Trump, I can't help but consider her the lesser of two evils like any rational person should.
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it doesnt seem like you are entitled to an opinion......
How someone can say that unironically and think other people are the snowflakes is beyond me.
Again, stick to Australian politics because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about with America other than "Trump isn't PC so he's obviously the best person for the presidency!"
I'm pretty sure running a sham "university" alone should've been enough to make him never be taken seriously but people on the right are just as far into the identity politics as the far left they unironically criticize."You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon OctopusmonkeysRfunny posted...I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I am saying that it's wrong based on hiring guidelines.
And ethical guidelines, and moral guidelines. Good, maybe you're beginning to understand why these attitudes are harmful and wrong.Court decisions are supposed to be made based on factual evidence, not "negative attitude". Bring in someone who saw the abuse, or better yet recorded it, and no matter how negative the perspective, you're not going to lose.
This is the most painfully naive thing I think I've ever read on CE.
A good friend of mine had video and written evidence as well as statutory declarations from mutual friends of emotional and physical abuse by his partner but guess who got primary custody of the kids? The mother, because "kids are better off staying with the mother".But see, now we're having this little discussion on these three specific examples rather than the initial topic, which was asking if I would be annoyed if things were assumed about me, to which I answered no.
And I think that's an incredibly dishonest answer because if you got shafted in divorce court primarily on the basis of being a man (and not because of anything factual) I think you'd appreciate why stereotypes are sometimes destructive as fuck.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 6 days ago)No, it's 100% honest. But I mean if we're talking hypothetically, what if I got benefits in court primarily on the basis that I was a man, and not because of anything factual? It goes both ways.
Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.monkeysRfunny posted...No, it's 100% honest. But I mean if we're talking hypothetically, what if I got benefits in court primarily on the basis that I was a man, and not because of anything factual? It goes both ways.
Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
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But not if it sucks.monkeysRfunny posted...Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
Would also like to know this. I need to know why it's so "deeply hurtful".( ^_^)/\(^_^ )
Maya high five!monkeysRfunny posted...Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
It's not. And like I said, it shows the liberal hypocrisy. Within the last few months, they've been demanding to have confederate statues taken down but said it would it would okay to have them in museums. They also said they wouldn't extend their demands to statues of other historical figures who, even if they had some racist tendencies, were celebrated for things not related to racism in anyway. Now, they're foaming at the mouth over a Dr Seuss illustration which is already in a museum."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubemonkeysRfunny posted...No, it's 100% honest. But I mean if we're talking hypothetically, what if I got benefits in court primarily on the basis that I was a man, and not because of anything factual? It goes both ways.
Then you'd have to admit that such stereotypes do exist and they have real world consequences, which is entirely the point I was making. If it's beneficial to you then it follows that it likely doesn't benefit people who are different in the same way.Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
Because people who the stereotype was about found it to be hurtful and asked it to be taken down, and the museum complied with that request in this instance. The authors also penned a letter detailing why they found it a problem:..is a jarring racial stereotype of a Chinese man, who is depicted with chopsticks, a pointed hat, and slanted slit eyes. We find this caricature of "The Chinaman" deeply hurtful, and have concerns about children's exposure to it.
While this image may have been considered amusing to some when it was published 80 years ago, it is obviously offensive in 2017 (the year the mural was painted). For some children who visit the museum, their only interaction with Asian representation might be that painting. For others, seeing themselves represented in such a stereotypical way may feed into internalized, even subconscious shame and humiliation. It is incumbent on our public institutions to present all races in a fair manner. Displaying imagery this offensive damages not only Asian American children, but also non-Asian kids who absorb this caricature and could associate it with all Asians or their Asian neighbors and classmates.
Now, please tell me how taking it down is actually a problem for you that you need to be upset about and why anyone need be upset about that.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 6 days ago)fuzzylittlbunny posted...monkeysRfunny posted...
Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
Would also like to know this. I need to know why it's so "deeply hurtful".
just because you might be fine with racist images, it doesn't mean that others are.
and the museum agreed to take it down because of how it offended othersb-bb-boxfuzzylittlbunny posted...monkeysRfunny posted...
Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
Would also like to know this. I need to know why it's so "deeply hurtful".
Kineth posted...I know plenty of Chinese people without slanted eyes. Saying that every Chinese person has those features only supports pinky's argument.
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.lmao okay, so it's "hurtful". I don't usually go with the buzzwords you see so much here on CE, but that's just full on snowflake. I'm still not seeing how it's offensive unless you want to see it that way. What's the worst that could happen? Kids see an Asian guy eating and say "hey, why are you using a fork instead of chopsticks?". Oh wait, but that would be super bad, right?The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.AffligemFR posted...it is obviously offensive in 2017
Is it really though? Maybe it is for the 'always offended at everything minority', but screw them - they'll never be content and will always find something to gripe about.
Dude like at least half of this shit is white people being offended on behalf of minorities who don't even gaf about whatever the ridiculous white people are upset over."I got a rollatruc, look."pinky0926 posted...Now, please tell me how taking it down is actually a problem for you that you need to be upset about and why anyone need be upset about that.
And this? It's not a problem for me, just as having a picture in a kid's book isn't a problem.The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.monkeysRfunny posted...pinky0926 posted...
Now, please tell me how taking it down is actually a problem for you that you need to be upset about and why anyone need be upset about that.
And this? It's not a problem for me, just as having a picture in a kid's book isn't a problem.
So essentially you don't have a problem with it, and it's got nothing to do with you, but you're complaining about it anyway?
Who's really the snowflake I wonder...CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgKineth posted...I know plenty of Chinese people without slanted eyes. Saying that every Chinese person has those features only supports pinky's argument.
This still doesn't say why it's "deeply hurtful".
CanuckCowboy posted...Dude like at least half of this shit is white people being offended on behalf of minorities who don't even gaf about whatever the ridiculous white people are upset over.
This, however, is complete truth. As I mentioned before, I'm full Japanese, and have faced tons of racial stereotypes. How many of them bother me? None.( ^_^)/\(^_^ )
Maya high five!so Japanese people shouldn't feel offended by stuff like this
just because you aren't?b-bb-boxpinky0926 posted...So essentially you don't have a problem with it, and it's got nothing to do with you, but you're complaining about it anyway?
Please quote where I complained.The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck.boxington posted...so Japanese people shouldn't feel offended by stuff like this
just because you aren't?
I already said that people are free to be offended. It's their choice, but it's stupid, as it just makes them unhappy.( ^_^)/\(^_^ )
Maya high five!(edited 6 days ago)@pinky0926
Since you're an Irishman, do you believe that we should completely stop portraying Irish people as little leprechauns or drunkards because it might offend Irish people? Should we stop people from using Irish stereotypes during st Patrick's day? Should we stop people from wearing Irish clothes and putting on orange wigs during that day?Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance...
Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0but stuff like that have happened throughout history, and they're not as commonplace, and if people hadn't "complained" or worked to bring awareness about racism, they might still be a thing
Edit: at post 82b-bb-box(edited 6 days ago)CanuckCowboy posted...AffligemFR posted...
it is obviously offensive in 2017
Is it really though? Maybe it is for the 'always offended at everything minority', but screw them - they'll never be content and will always find something to gripe about.
Dude like at least half of this shit is white people being offended on behalf of minorities who don't even gaf about whatever the ridiculous white people are upset over.
True. There is little worse than hearing someone offended on someone else's behalf, and having them drone on about something that may offend someone else.
Don't the so called offended parties have a voice? Let them speak or kindly drop it.Massive walking dead fan :)NINExATExSEVEN posted...@pinky0926
Since you're an Irishman, do you believe that we should completely stop portraying Irish people as little leprechauns or drunkards because it might offend Irish people? Should we stop people from using Irish stereotypes during st Patrick's day? Should we stop people from wearing Irish clothes and putting on orange wigs during that day?
I'm scottish actually, although I think you know that already.
And that stuff doesn't offend Irish people so much as it exasperates them. To answer your question: depends. Are Irish people up in arms about it? Sounds like they're not, so you're fine. They're not racist stereotypes anyway. Just cultural ones.
I think the point here is that this wouldn't be a story if it wasn't for people wanting to feel outraged about it happening. What are we talking about here after all? A local museum had a mural, some asian authors attending a book festival disagreed on that basis. The museum changed their mind and now the authors are attending again. That's it, that's literally all that happened.
It's funny that you guys keep talking about librul outrage when ultimately this was a couple of people who personally refused to attend and then sorted the matter out. I don't see any outrage here.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgisn't this what the anti-sjws wanted? I've seen them complain over and over what no one cares about the asians. well now here you have it. what's the issue now?(edited 6 days ago)AffligemFR posted...True. There is little worse than hearing someone offended on someone else's behalf, and having them drone on about something that may offend someone else.
Don't the so called offended parties have a voice? Let them speak or kindly drop it.
The offended party literally did speak, that's the basis for this entire discussion. Unless you want to contact those authors personally I'm not sure what you expect people to say in this topic that isn't going to be on behalf of someone else.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgpinky0926 posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted...
@pinky0926
Since you're an Irishman, do you believe that we should completely stop portraying Irish people as little leprechauns or drunkards because it might offend Irish people? Should we stop people from using Irish stereotypes during st Patrick's day? Should we stop people from wearing Irish clothes and putting on orange wigs during that day?
I'm scottish actually, although I think you know that already.
And that stuff doesn't offend Irish people so much as it exasperates them. To answer your question: depends. Are Irish people up in arms about it? Sounds like they're not, so you're fine. They're not racist stereotypes anyway. Just cultural ones.
I think the point here is that this wouldn't be a story if it wasn't for people wanting to feel outraged about it happening. What are we talking about here after all? A local museum had a mural, some asian authors attending a book festival disagreed on that basis. The museum changed their mind and now the authors are attending again. That's it, that's literally all that happened.
It's funny that you guys keep talking about librul outrage when ultimately this was a couple of people who personally refused to attend and then sorted the matter out. I don't see any outrage here.
My bad i forgot you were Scottish. As for the bolded part, if it's really just an isolated incident then who cares.Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance...
Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0DifferentialEquation posted...monkeysRfunny posted...
Obviously some stereotypes are bad, but please tell me how the Chinese stereotype in the Dr. Seuss museum was so horrible that they needed to take it down.
It's not. And like I said, it shows the liberal hypocrisy. Within the last few months, they've been demanding to have confederate statues taken down but said it would it would okay to have them in museums. They also said they wouldn't extend their demands to statues of other historical figures who, even if they had some racist tendencies, were celebrated for things not related to racism in anyway. Now, they're foaming at the mouth over a Dr Seuss illustration which is already in a museum.
Right but they are ok with every building and bridge in WV being named after Robert Byrd, they don't seem to want the Democrat party to change its name ( within the year leading to the civil, every slave owner was a democrat and not a single republican owned a slave. Jim Crow laws were 100% owned by them as well). Statues honoring fallen soldiers who had to fight and die for their state irregardless of their personal beliefs on slavery is triggering to them but a political party that bears the name of all black oppression... love em.Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves
http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpgUgh, everyone feels entitled to share their opinion with the world now. Just keep that shit to yourself and don't attend. Don't ruin the experience for others because you don't like it. They are denying history at this point.(edited 6 days ago)boxington posted...so Japanese people shouldn't feel offended by stuff like this
just because you aren't?
Right, it's always good to look at the past with 2017 eyes. 🙄
When that was drawn, the Japanese were threatening to wipe us from the planet. Their feelings wasn't a consideration. Why would it have been? Bet you have no issue with someone from Alabama portrayed in a wife beater, living in a trailer and drinking Busch light.Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves
http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpgWolf_J_Flywheel posted...Right, it's always good to look at the past with 2017 eyes. 🙄
When that was drawn, the Japanese were threatening to wipe us from the planet. Their feelings wasn't a consideration. Why would it have been? Bet you have no issue with someone from Alabama portrayed in a wife beater, living in a trailer and drinking Busch light.
In a roundabout way you just highlighted the issue here. The mural in question at this museum was drawn in 2017 in the style of something 80 years ago.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgWolf:
I'm just saying some of his drawings were racist, and people are justified in being offended by them.
and what was his justification for images like these?b-bb-boxWolf_J_Flywheel posted...boxington posted...
so Japanese people shouldn't feel offended by stuff like this
just because you aren't?
Right, it's always good to look at the past with 2017 eyes. 🙄
When that was drawn, the Japanese were threatening to wipe us from the planet. Their feelings wasn't a consideration. Why would it have been? Bet you have no issue with someone from Alabama portrayed in a wife beater, living in a trailer and drinking Busch light.
you seriously aren't going to distinguish between the japanese empire and an entire ethnicity? we manage to do it with the germans and italians and we fought them too. you seriously think it's ok to be racist against an entire people because you're engaged in a war with them? holy shit the tribal cavemen ittRacist caricatures like "the Chinaman" have no place in today's society. If it's gonna be in a museum, it shouldn't be glorified which seems to be the problem here.Finding new ways to be offended is one of the top hobbies of liberals in general, so Kineth and everyone else acting like this is some one-off incident don't really have a leg to stand on. However, that is a nice deflection from having to face the reality of the stupidity.- The Admiralpinky0926 posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted...
@pinky0926
Since you're an Irishman, do you believe that we should completely stop portraying Irish people as little leprechauns or drunkards because it might offend Irish people? Should we stop people from using Irish stereotypes during st Patrick's day? Should we stop people from wearing Irish clothes and putting on orange wigs during that day?
I'm scottish actually, although I think you know that already.
And that stuff doesn't offend Irish people so much as it exasperates them. To answer your question: depends. Are Irish people up in arms about it? Sounds like they're not, so you're fine. They're not racist stereotypes anyway. Just cultural ones.
I think the point here is that this wouldn't be a story if it wasn't for people wanting to feel outraged about it happening. What are we talking about here after all? A local museum had a mural, some asian authors attending a book festival disagreed on that basis. The museum changed their mind and now the authors are attending again. That's it, that's literally all that happened.
It's funny that you guys keep talking about librul outrage when ultimately this was a couple of people who personally refused to attend and then sorted the matter out. I don't see any outrage here.
Isn't calling a Scotsman "Irish" one of the most offensive things you can say to a Scotsman? 😱The Admiral posted...Finding new ways to be offended is one of the top hobbies of liberals in general, so Kineth and everyone else acting like this is some one-off incident don't really have a leg to stand on. However, that is a nice deflection from having to face the reality of the stupidity.
can you explain the bolded?b-bb-box- Boards
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- Liberal snowflakes starting a war over Dr Seuss.
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- Liberal snowflakes starting a war over Dr Seuss.
ThyCorndog posted...Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
boxington posted...
so Japanese people shouldn't feel offended by stuff like this
just because you aren't?
Right, it's always good to look at the past with 2017 eyes. 🙄
When that was drawn, the Japanese were threatening to wipe us from the planet. Their feelings wasn't a consideration. Why would it have been? Bet you have no issue with someone from Alabama portrayed in a wife beater, living in a trailer and drinking Busch light.
you seriously aren't going to distinguish between the japanese empire and an entire ethnicity? we manage to do it with the germans and italians and we fought them too. you seriously think it's ok to be racist against an entire people because you're engaged in a war with them? holy shit the tribal cavemen itt
That guy literally can't distinguish between Japanese imperialists and Japanese-Americans. He would likely have been for Japanese internment.boxington posted...The Admiral posted...
Finding new ways to be offended is one of the top hobbies of liberals in general, so Kineth and everyone else acting like this is some one-off incident don't really have a leg to stand on. However, that is a nice deflection from having to face the reality of the stupidity.
can you explain the bolded?
Because instead of saying "yeah, these liberals are idiots," the conversation immediately became "why do conservatives look for articles like this this" and "why do you guys generalize liberals for doing these things."- The Admiralokay, thanks.b-bb-boxCrimsonRage posted...Isn't calling a Scotsman "Irish" one of the most offensive things you can say to a Scotsman? 😱
Different kind of offensive. Not liberal hurt feelings offensive. More like blood boiling nationalistic pride insulted.
Also I wager it would be the Irish more insulted by it.
calling either a scot or an irishman an Englishman though, that's the worst one.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgCrimsonRage posted...Racist caricatures like "the Chinaman" have no place in today's society. If it's gonna be in a museum, it shouldn't be glorified which seems to be the problem here.
That's all it really comes down to for me. I don't think anyone is crying into their pillow over this. It's just a case of "we don't need this shit anymore, cut it out".CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgpinky0926 posted...CrimsonRage posted...
Isn't calling a Scotsman "Irish" one of the most offensive things you can say to a Scotsman? 😱
Different kind of offensive. Not liberal hurt feelings offensive. More like blood boiling nationalistic pride insulted.
Also I wager it would be the Irish more insulted by it.
calling either a scot or an irishman an Englishman though, that's the worst one.
where do the welsh fit into all thisThe Admiral posted...boxington posted...
The Admiral posted...
Finding new ways to be offended is one of the top hobbies of liberals in general, so Kineth and everyone else acting like this is some one-off incident don't really have a leg to stand on. However, that is a nice deflection from having to face the reality of the stupidity.
can you explain the bolded?
Because instead of saying "yeah, these liberals are idiots," the conversation immediately became "why do conservatives look for articles like this this" and "why do you guys generalize liberals for doing these things."
But that's literally what you do in topics about conservative stupidity comes up. Your responses are either "it's just some nobodies" or "it's dumb but liberals...." I've never seen you say "yeah, these conservatives are dumb" and end it on that.Pinky in here wrecking racistsQuit CryingCrimsonRage posted...The Admiral posted...
boxington posted...
The Admiral posted...
Finding new ways to be offended is one of the top hobbies of liberals in general, so Kineth and everyone else acting like this is some one-off incident don't really have a leg to stand on. However, that is a nice deflection from having to face the reality of the stupidity.
can you explain the bolded?
Because instead of saying "yeah, these liberals are idiots," the conversation immediately became "why do conservatives look for articles like this this" and "why do you guys generalize liberals for doing these things."
But that's literally what you do in topics about conservative stupidity comes up. Your responses are either "it's just some nobodies" or "it's dumb but liberals...." I've never seen you say "yeah, these conservatives are dumb" and end it on that.
I say stuff like that all the time. Those posts typically don't get a single response, whereas any post I make critical of liberals causes you and half this board to behave like zoo animals.- The AdmiralThyCorndog posted...where do the welsh fit into all this
England is the well to do emotionally suppressed father trying to keep everything together.
Scotland is the junkie mother who keeps trying to get a divorce but has a drugs problem and can't support herself.
Northern Ireland is the estranged daughter that moved out a long time ago but still has deep seething daddy issues.
Republic of Ireland also moved out and got her shit sorted a long time ago but still calls from time to time to see how everyone's doing. Prefers not to get too involved in the drama.
And Wales is the weird uncle that everyone forgets about but is jolly enough company at weddings and funerals.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgpinky0926 posted...ThyCorndog posted...
where do the welsh fit into all this
England is the well to do emotionally suppressed father trying to keep everything together.
Scotland is the junkie mother who keeps trying to get a divorce but has a drugs problem and can't support herself.
Northern Ireland is the estranged daughter that moved out a long time ago but still has deep seething daddy issues.
Republic of Ireland also moved out and got her shit sorted a long time ago but still calls from time to time to see how everyone's doing. Prefers not to get too involved in the drama.
And Wales is the weird uncle that everyone forgets about but is jolly enough company at weddings and funerals.
lol. nicepinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...
True. There is little worse than hearing someone offended on someone else's behalf, and having them drone on about something that may offend someone else.
Don't the so called offended parties have a voice? Let them speak or kindly drop it.
The offended party literally did speak, that's the basis for this entire discussion. Unless you want to contact those authors personally I'm not sure what you expect people to say in this topic that isn't going to be on behalf of someone else.
Again, it's just the rantings of a very vocal minority that usually drown out the reality.
I'm certain that many people don't actually give a shit about this, just the usual purple haired sjw types and a handful of ethnics eager to virtue signal.Massive walking dead fan :)AffligemFR posted...Again, it's just the rantings of a very vocal minority that usually drown out the reality.
I'm certain that many people don't actually give a shit about this, just the usual purple haired sjw types and a handful of ethnics eager to virtue signal.
he had to pull out the weak bait because nobody replied in three hours lmaoI'm a sex machine ready to reload...
when's sig emoji support thinking face emojiIt's almost like history can be racist and offensive. This is a museum after all.Freddie_Mercury posted...AffligemFR posted...
Again, it's just the rantings of a very vocal minority that usually drown out the reality.
I'm certain that many people don't actually give a shit about this, just the usual purple haired sjw types and a handful of ethnics eager to virtue signal.
he had to pull out the weak bait because nobody replied in three hours lmao
No, I wasn't checking the topic earlier. I had been busyMassive walking dead fan :)AffligemFR posted...pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...
True. There is little worse than hearing someone offended on someone else's behalf, and having them drone on about something that may offend someone else.
Don't the so called offended parties have a voice? Let them speak or kindly drop it.
The offended party literally did speak, that's the basis for this entire discussion. Unless you want to contact those authors personally I'm not sure what you expect people to say in this topic that isn't going to be on behalf of someone else.
Again, it's just the rantings of a very vocal minority that usually drown out the reality.
I'm certain that many people don't actually give a shit about this, just the usual purple haired sjw types and a handful of ethnics eager to virtue signal.
Ok, if you're sure about that why not try it for yourself? Doll yourself up in blackface and take a stroll through harlem, if it's just the usual purple haired sjw types that care about stuff like this you'll have nothing to worry about.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgThe left is destroying itself from the inside out.We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewispinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...
pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...
True. There is little worse than hearing someone offended on someone else's behalf, and having them drone on about something that may offend someone else.
Don't the so called offended parties have a voice? Let them speak or kindly drop it.
The offended party literally did speak, that's the basis for this entire discussion. Unless you want to contact those authors personally I'm not sure what you expect people to say in this topic that isn't going to be on behalf of someone else.
Again, it's just the rantings of a very vocal minority that usually drown out the reality.
I'm certain that many people don't actually give a shit about this, just the usual purple haired sjw types and a handful of ethnics eager to virtue signal.
Ok, if you're sure about that why not try it for yourself? Doll yourself up in blackface and take a stroll through harlem, if it's just the usual purple haired sjw types that care about stuff like this you'll have nothing to worry about.
That would involve a plane ticket and at least 2 days there and back.
Oh, and nice straw man. Who said anything about blacking up a face?Massive walking dead fan :)HypnoCoosh posted...The left is destroying itself from the inside out.
No it isn't. The left isn't a thing.hockeybub89 posted...HypnoCoosh posted...
The left is destroying itself from the inside out.
No it isn't. The left isn't a thing.
dis dude serious?
Leftism very much is a thing get educated sonWe make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. LewisAffligemFR posted...That would involve a plane ticket and at least 2 days there and back.
Oh, and nice straw man. Who said anything about blacking up a face?
It was rhetorical, you don't need to do it and I suggest you don't unless you want to get yourself killed.
But can you really not see the direct connection between blackface, golliwogs and racial caricature paintings? Blackface and darky iconography are intimately linked, and this is essentially the asian version of exactly that.
I mean what was your earlier comment? The stereotype is largely just a playful one. Yes, they do have slanted eyes, yes they do generally use chopsticks and as for the hat? Probably not.
So... 2 out of 3 stereotypical mannerisms, hardly slanderous or even slightly offensive.
So why not blackface? Same principle right? You're just donning some black makeup, making your lips look big and red and dressing up like a travelling minstrel. Hardly slanderous or even offensive, just tell people to lighten up if they take offense right?
As you said, it's only offensive if you view your personal ethnic traits as negative.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 5 days ago)pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...
That would involve a plane ticket and at least 2 days there and back.
Oh, and nice straw man. Who said anything about blacking up a face?
It was rhetorical, you don't need to do it and I suggest you don't unless you want to get yourself killed.
But can you really not see the direct connection between blackface, golliwogs and racial caricature paintings?
Anyone with a functional brain should be able to see the connection.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.Should white people be offended about the film white chicks?
Whereby two black kids 'white up' their faces to appear white?
Is this just a one way street? Because I honestly don't recall any furore over that from within the 'white' community.Massive walking dead fan :)AffligemFR posted...Should white people be offended about the film white chicks?
Whereby two black kids 'white up' their faces to appear white?
Is this just a one way street? Because I honestly don't recall any furore over that from within the 'white' community.
I would like an answer to this.We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. LewisAs I recall, there was minor bellyaching, but one instance of white face is nowhere near equivalent to a litany of examples with a long history.
And they had actual white people in the movie too.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.(edited 5 days ago)
We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. LewisPoor conservative snowflakes making a big deal over nothing. Sorry that triggered you.No sig.AffligemFR posted...Should white people be offended about the film white chicks?
Whereby two black kids 'white up' their faces to appear white?
Is this just a one way street? Because I honestly don't recall any furore over that from within the 'white' community.
Everyone should be offended by the film white chicks because of how awful it was.
Here's my take on it. Black people have very good reason to feel offended by blackface. It was historically used to ridicule an already marginalized people. It completely undermined black people as dumb caricatures in a world where black people were already oppressed in their every day lives. Insult to injury, essentially.
White chicks...what does that signify exactly? It was mostly poking fun at blackface, while allowing white people to laugh at themselves. I feel maybe you're forgetting the point of the movie. Initially the two characters are not taken seriously and assumed to be beggars, so they have to don the whiteface so that they're accepted into high society. If anything that movie was a (silly) criticism of racism.
So no, while white chicks is pretty prejudice and stupid, to try and equate them is ridiculous and shows a complete ignorance of the nature of what makes racism particularly harmful.
Context is important in all this. If you remember, Robert Downey Jnr put on blackface in Tropic Thunder, and yet there was no outrage. Why? Because that was a genuine satire of blackface. The joke in that movie was how offensive blackface is and how clueless his character is about it.
I can't help feeling that when a white person says "yeah but what about this one instance, see!" it's just fishing around desperately for some example to prove that racism exists "on all sides", when the reality is that white person has never really experienced anything approaching what racism really is.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg(edited 5 days ago)pinky0926 posted...Context is important in all this. If you remember, Robert Downey Jnr put on blackface in Tropic Thunder, and yet there was no outrage. Why? Because that was a genuine satire of blackface. The joke in that movie was how offensive blackface is and how clueless his character is about it.
There was no outrage because it was 2008 when it came out and SJWs were nowhere as insane/prevalent then."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeDifferentialEquation posted...pinky0926 posted...
Context is important in all this. If you remember, Robert Downey Jnr put on blackface in Tropic Thunder, and yet there was no outrage. Why? Because that was a genuine satire of blackface. The joke in that movie was how offensive blackface is and how clueless his character is about it.
There was no outrage because it was 2008 when it came out and SJWs were nowhere as insane/prevalent then.
Blackface was already becoming a hot topic "SJW" issue in the 1930s when even then they realised it was bigoted and stopped using it in film. Try again.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpgAffligemFR posted...Should white people be offended about the film white chicks?
Whereby two black kids 'white up' their faces to appear white?
Is this just a one way street? Because I honestly don't recall any furore over that from within the 'white' community.
Admiral is very offended by the movie White Chicks.hockeybub89 posted...AffligemFR posted...
Should white people be offended about the film white chicks?
Whereby two black kids 'white up' their faces to appear white?
Is this just a one way street? Because I honestly don't recall any furore over that from within the 'white' community.
Admiral is very offended by the movie White Chicks.
Are you implying I'm Admiral?Massive walking dead fan :)Rika_Furude posted...this is why trump won
If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!!Pathetic, these liberal snowflakes need to fuck off and stop shitting on everything just cause they are over sensitive crybabies with loaded diapers."Always two there are, a master and an apprentice"DifferentialEquation posted...Lmao. In just a few months liberals went from "confederate monuments belong in museums, not out in public" to "Dr Seuss is so racist that his illustrations can't even stay up in museums". They're now snowflaking at an exponential rate.
Haha"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom HanksBamboozled is a good movie 👍🏼👍🏼
jokes about white people crack me up.Quit CryingAnything to get outraged overGamer99z posted...Rika_Furude posted...
this is why trump won
this is why anyone who supported hillary doesn't deserve an opinion
You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him?
Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
Imagine thinking blocking people on twitter was illegal, and having the gall to say anyone else is a snowflake.'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBenGamer99z posted...Rika_Furude posted...
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this is why trump won
this is why anyone who supported hillary doesn't deserve an opinion
You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him?
Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
quick q
do you support hillary
Support? Definitely not.
But when given the option between generic copy/paste politician #3567 and literal Donald Trump, I can't help but consider her the lesser of two evils like any rational person should.
hmm
it doesnt seem like you are entitled to an opinion......
How someone can say that unironically and think other people are the snowflakes is beyond me.
Again, stick to Australian politics because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about with America other than "Trump isn't PC so he's obviously the best person for the presidency!"
I'm pretty sure running a sham "university" alone should've been enough to make him never be taken seriously but people on the right are just as far into the identity politics as the far left they unironically criticize.
Well for starters, you think its illegal to block people on twitter. You definitely dont deserve an opinion, much less are you entitled to one at this point.Posted with GameRaven 3.3I haven't read this topic, but I'm sure the people are up in arms against the "social justice warriors" as usual, right? 🙄 Forgive me, but a racist caricature shouldn't go up in a children's museum, least of all one dedicated to Dr. Seuss... That isn't what Dr. Seuss should be remembered for!
The anti-Chinese and anti-Japanese racist propaganda of his early work deserve to be forgotten... Horton Hears a Who was his apologia for those misbegotten cartoons. If Dr. Seuss were still alive today, he would not want those racist illustrations to be his legacy. Moreover, these aren't the kind of values we should be teaching our children in 2017, so I don't see any harm in striking it from the mural.Rika_Furude posted...Gamer99z posted...
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this is why trump won
this is why anyone who supported hillary doesn't deserve an opinion
You mean the guy who's such a snowflake that he's threatened to sue people for saying mean things about him and has gone out of his way to illegally block people on Twitter for simply disagreeing with him?
Maybe you should stick to Australian politics since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the US.
quick q
do you support hillary
Support? Definitely not.
But when given the option between generic copy/paste politician #3567 and literal Donald Trump, I can't help but consider her the lesser of two evils like any rational person should.
hmm
it doesnt seem like you are entitled to an opinion......
How someone can say that unironically and think other people are the snowflakes is beyond me.
Again, stick to Australian politics because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about with America other than "Trump isn't PC so he's obviously the best person for the presidency!"
I'm pretty sure running a sham "university" alone should've been enough to make him never be taken seriously but people on the right are just as far into the identity politics as the far left they unironically criticize.
Well for starters, you think its illegal to block people on twitter. You definitely dont deserve an opinion, much less are you entitled to one at this point.
That's fine but you don't either.Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_XGlass_Phantom posted...I haven't read this topic, but I'm sure the people are up in arms against the "social justice warriors" as usual, right? 🙄 Forgive me, but a racist caricature shouldn't go up in a children's museum, least of all one dedicated to Dr. Seuss... That isn't what Dr. Seuss should be remembered for!
I guess no kid should ever read a Mark Twain novel either, right?You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8Do did that article really not include a pic of the offensive image?Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.Zeeak4444 posted...
That's fine but you don't either.
Why not? Becuse you dont like what i have to say?
You lot have proven time and time again you have no clue about your own politics. If you read what i said for once you wouod know i dont even support trump. LmaoPosted with GameRaven 3.3(edited 1 day ago)Rika_Furude posted...Zeeak4444 posted...
That's fine but you don't either.
Why not? Becuse you dont like what i have to say?
You lot have proven time and time again you have no clue about your own politics. If you read what i said for once you wouod know i dont even support trump. Lmao
Who do you think I am?
None of that was relevant to what I said.Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_XCarlGrimes posted...Glass_Phantom posted...
I haven't read this topic, but I'm sure the people are up in arms against the "social justice warriors" as usual, right? 🙄 Forgive me, but a racist caricature shouldn't go up in a children's museum, least of all one dedicated to Dr. Seuss... That isn't what Dr. Seuss should be remembered for!
I guess no kid should ever read a Mark Twain novel either, right?
Children aren't reading Mark Twain, though I personally don't think it should be edited either. Regardless, I don't entirely have an opinion on all this and never really care which is why I posted this:
Kineth posted...It mostly seems like conservatives overblowing one person's opinion and making it seem like there's some big movement about this.
There isn't.
I was spending more time criticizing people's inability to identify the object that they were gonna put their subjective opinions on than worrying about where Dr. Seuss's pieces go to.If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.(edited 1 day ago)- Boards
- Current Events
- Liberal snowflakes starting a war over Dr Seuss.
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