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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3979220/Marijuana-users-abnormally-low-blood-flow-brain-including-Alzheimer-s-danger-zones.html
The patients from California, Washington, Virginia, Georgia and New York all had complex treatment resistant issues, and all underwent single photon emission computed tomography (SPECT) a sophisticated imaging study that evaluates blood flow and activity patterns while undergoing concentration tests. Weed smokers are literally causing themselves to black out and endure permanent brain damage from lack of blood flow just so they can get high. the worst part is they'll argue for it even though this study proves they have literal brain damage. |
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Weed smokers are literally causing themselves to black out and endure permanent brain damage from lack of blood flow just so they can get high. the worst part is they'll argue for it even though this study proves they have literal brain damage. One of the greatest minds at NASA was a stoner.
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
CarlGrimes posted...One of the greatest minds at NASA was a stoner. Or maybe his brain was damaged in a way that allowed him to understand everything better.
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CarlGrimes posted...
Or maybe his brain was damaged in a way that allowed him to understand everything better. That statement leads me to believe you've been smoking a little too much yourself. Kisai posted... Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. b...b...but alcohol. |
TommyG663513 posted...
Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. both are pretty bad yeah? |
Wow it turns out a substance used to recreationally impair yourself or get high isn't good for you. I'm sure all those millions of people doing it because they thought it was like vitamins will stop now that this news has been broken.
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
TommyG663513 posted...Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. In terms of personal health, yeah. But between the two, I'd say weed is the lesser evil because it doesn't turn you into an asshole. I'd rather be around people smoking pot than drinking alcohol.
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grapplerguru posted...
How high do you have to be to use Daily Mail as a source? http://www.j-alz.com/content/new-study-shows-marijuana-users-have-low-blood-flow-brain http://www.amenclinics.com/blog/amen-research-marijuana-affects-blood-flow-brain/ http://www.amenclinics.com/the-science/brain-spect-abstracts/acute-changes-in-cerebral-blood-flow-associated-with-marijuana-smoking/ |
Kisai posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...TommyG663513 posted...Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. If drinking makes someone an asshole it's just because there an asshole. For me and all my friends it does the exact opposite. Shit the last time I got drunk I called my mom at like 2 am and spent 45 minutes telling her how much I loved her >_>
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Gamer99z posted...
Wow it turns out a substance used to recreationally impair yourself or get high isn't good for you. I'm sure all those millions of people doing it because they thought it was like vitamins will stop now that this news has been broken. Except many that smoke weed justify it by saying it is good for you.
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Kisai posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...TommyG663513 posted...Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. Weed only turns you into an asshole during conversations about weed.
Keep it green.
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PiOverlord posted...
Gamer99z posted...Wow it turns out a substance used to recreationally impair yourself or get high isn't good for you. I'm sure all those millions of people doing it because they thought it was like vitamins will stop now that this news has been broken. Not really, except for specifically cited medical benefits most recreational weed users don't say it's just simply good for you. Just that it's not as bad as or at least not notably worse than something like alcohol. Which even that only gets brought up to point out how stupid it is that one is legal and the other isn't.
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Gamer99z posted...weed users don't say it's just simply good for you None of the weed smokers i have been around have said that. Mind you ive smoked weed in 3 different countries, 2 different colleges and have been smoking for years now fake news
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Gamer99z posted...weed users don't say it's just simply good for you No they don't you fucking troll.
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Kisai posted...DocileOrangeCup posted...TommyG663513 posted...Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells.
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Letron_James posted...
None of the weed smokers i have been around have said that. Mind you ive smoked weed in 3 different countries, 2 different colleges and have been smoking for years now And I've been around just as many potheads and 90% of the time the conversation gets steered towards how smoking weed cures cancer among other things and inhaling marijuana smoke actually reverses emphysema. |
A study from "Amen Clinics", founded by a self help guru.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_Clinics?wprov=sfla1 Lol, why do people here not read the shit they source? A story from the Daily Mail about a study from the "Amen Clinic", lol. How fucking dumb. If you so,see why you never heard of the Amen Clinic, there is a good reason for that. *it's shit*
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
And I've been around just as many potheads CE doesn't count |
CocteauQuintplt posted...
A study from "Amen Clinics", founded by a self help guru. ...the paper itself was published in a pretty good academic journal. The primary issue with this reporting is that reduced hippocampal perfusion is not at all surprising given the previous results that show decreases in hippocampal volume, as you would expect that a region with less metabolic need would show less perfusion (neurovasular coupling, as it's referred to). This is more or less a reiteration of previous results. Reporting like that region is being supplied with too little blood is just incorrect.
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Kisai posted...
Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. This God these topics are stupid |
but would this explain why people voted for hillary?
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Ban alcohol and tobacco or legalize weed.
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E32005 posted...
Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. Actually, what's stupid is even bringing up alcohol in this topic. What the hell does alcohol being bad for you have to do with this study? Yes, chronic alcohol use is also bad, but this doesn't magically make weed any better for you.
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COVxy posted...
CocteauQuintplt posted...A study from "Amen Clinics", founded by a self help guru. That isn't true at all. The Journal of Alzheimer's Disease is not a well-respected medical publication whatsoever. It has a minimal impact score, meaning it is *rarely* cited by any medical professional. They published a so-called study from the Amen Clinic, founded by a self-professed "self-help guru", for fucks sake. The only thing more ridiculous than the Amen Clinic is the Daily Mail, lol.
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The Admiral posted...
E32005 posted...Kisai posted...Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. Yeah but people will use this as proof why weed should be illegal. If alcohol can be legal despite its potential damage, then so should weed. If weed is too dangerous to be legal, then ban alcohol. |
CocteauQuintplt posted...
The Journal of Alzheimer's Disease is not a well-respected medical publication whatsoever. It has a minimal impact score, meaning it is *rarely* cited by any medical professional. Uh, it is. And its impact factor is pretty good for a specialty journal.
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COVxy posted...
CocteauQuintplt posted...The Journal of Alzheimer's Disease is not a well-respected medical publication whatsoever. It has a minimal impact score, meaning it is *rarely* cited by any medical professional. No, it isn't. *They published a story from the Amen Clinic* - I am literally proving to you they are worthless.
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Kisai posted...
Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells. hmm im pretty sure people know this even alcoholics the difference is weed adicts claim it doesnt have any negative effects
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COVxy posted...
Uh, it is. And its impact factor is pretty good for a specialty journal. none of the top journals in urban economics have as high of an impact factor as the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease, fwiw
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
weed isn't good for you, more at 11 People literally for the life of them don't want to believe that shit though Like there was ever a drug that has no side effects
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DocileOrangeCup posted...weed isn't good for you, more at 11 If weed is injested rather than smoked there's literally no long term effects.
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Your source is the Daily Mail? The fucking Daily Mail? You'd honestly be better off having no source, the Daily Mail is basically the UK equivalent of the National Enquirer with a substantial dose of reactionary propaganda mixed in.Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark
The sun sets forever over Blackwater ParkCocteauQuintplt posted...The so-called doctor who conducted this fake research is not respected in any medical field whatsoever and is considered a source for fraudulent bullshit. Literal fake news.
It weirdly would have been more respectable if Dr Oz concocted this bullshit.
Continuing to make incorrect assertions, after you've been proven wrong already in this topic, isn't a winning strategy for you.- The AdmiralYeah, no. The actual study says that the average blood flow in the brain among marijuana users was lower than the average blood flow among controls. Nowhere does it says that all 1000 people had lower blood flow compared to all controls -- that is so statistically unlikely as to be impossible.No sig hereCocteauQuintplt posted...The so-called doctor who conducted this fake research is not respected in any medical field whatsoever and is considered a source for fraudulent bullshit. Literal fake news.
It weirdly would have been more respectable if Dr Oz concocted this bullshit.
which one? the team of 7 researchers has 3 people from amen, 1 from UCSF, 2 from USC, and 1 from UCLAHe would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.The Admiral posted...CocteauQuintplt posted...
The so-called doctor who conducted this fake research is not respected in any medical field whatsoever and is considered a source for fraudulent bullshit. Literal fake news.
It weirdly would have been more respectable if Dr Oz concocted this bullshit.
Continuing to make incorrect assertions, after you've been proven wrong already in this topic, isn't a winning strategy for you.
What? You think Dr Amen is respectable?
Lol, of course you would. Your propensity for bullshit knows no bounds.I am AmpBalrog0 posted...CocteauQuintplt posted...
The so-called doctor who conducted this fake research is not respected in any medical field whatsoever and is considered a source for fraudulent bullshit. Literal fake news.
It weirdly would have been more respectable if Dr Oz concocted this bullshit.
which one? the team of 7 researchers has 3 people from amen, 1 from UCSF, 2 from USC, and 1 from UCLA
A person's university has nothing to do with the fact that they work for a snake oil salesman. I'm sure Dr Oz has people on his staff that graduated from decent schools as well.I am AmpCocteauQuintplt posted...A person's university has nothing to do with the fact that they work for a snake oil salesman. I'm sure Dr Oz has people on his staff that graduated from decent schools as well.
it has a lot to do with it when they aren't affiliated with the Amen clinic and therefore aren't working for said snake oil salesmenHe would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.CocteauQuintplt posted...The link is too long so I can't post it, but Google "Amen Clinic Washington Post". Read the first link, it is a doozy, then come back here and defend Dr Amen, I challenge you.
why should I do that? I'm not defending any one but I guess maybe the peer review process for academic journalsHe would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.Balrog0 posted...CocteauQuintplt posted...
A person's university has nothing to do with the fact that they work for a snake oil salesman. I'm sure Dr Oz has people on his staff that graduated from decent schools as well.
it has a lot to do with it when they aren't affiliated with the Amen clinic and therefore aren't working for said snake oil salesmen
This research is directly affiliated with the Amen Clinic. Wth?I am AmpThe Admiral posted...E32005 posted...
Kisai posted...
Yeah. Good thing alcohol doesn't cause you to black out or kill brain cells.
This
God these topics are stupid
Actually, what's stupid is even bringing up alcohol in this topic. What the hell does alcohol being bad for you have to do with this study? Yes, chronic alcohol use is also bad, but this doesn't magically make weed any better for you.
It’s moot.COVxy posted...Amen collects a lot of SPECT images in their clinic, and as such have one of the most elaborate databases of images for research purposes.
Officials at major psychiatric and neuroscience associations and research centers say his SPECT claims are no more than myth and poppycock, buffaloing an unsuspecting public.
None of the nation’s most prestigious medical organizations in the field — including the APA, the National Institute of Mental Health, the American College of Radiology, the Society of Nuclear Medicine and Molecular Imaging and the National Alliance on Mental Illness — validates his claims.
No major research institution takes his SPECT work seriously, none regards him as “the number one neuroscience guy,” and his revelations, which he presents to rapt audiences as dispatches from the front ranks of science, make the top tier of scientists roll their eyes or get very angry.
“In my opinion, what he’s doing is the modern equivalent of phrenology,” says Jeffrey Lieberman, APA president-elect, author of the textbook “Psychiatry” and chairman of Psychiatry at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. (Phrenology was the pseudoscience, popular in the early 19th century, that said the mind was determined by the shape of the skull, particularly its bumps.) “The claims he makes are not supported by reliable science, and one has to be skeptical about his motivation.”
“I think you have a vulnerable patient population that doesn’t know any better,” says M. Elizabeth Oates, chair of the Commission on Nuclear Medicine, Board of Chancellors at the American College of Radiology, and chair of the department of radiology at the University of Kentucky.
“A sham,” says Martha J. Farah, director of the Center for Neuroscience & Society at the University of Pennsylvania, summing up her thoughts on one of Amen’s most recent scientific papers.
“I guess we’re all amateurs except for him,” says Helen Mayberg, a psychiatry, neurology and radiology professor at Emory School of Medicine and one of the most respected researchers into depression and brain scanning. “He’s making claims that are outrageous and not supported by any research.”I am AmpCocteauQuintplt posted...COVxy posted...
Amen collects a lot of SPECT images in their clinic, and as such have one of the most elaborate databases of images for research purposes.
Officials at major psychiatric and neuroscience associations and research centers say his SPECT claims are no more than myth and poppycock, buffaloing an unsuspecting public.
None of the nation’s most prestigious medical organizations in the field — including the APA, the National Institute of Mental Health, the American College of Radiology, the Society of Nuclear Medicine and Molecular Imaging and the National Alliance on Mental Illness — validates his claims.
No major research institution takes his SPECT work seriously, none regards him as “the number one neuroscience guy,” and his revelations, which he presents to rapt audiences as dispatches from the front ranks of science, make the top tier of scientists roll their eyes or get very angry.
“In my opinion, what he’s doing is the modern equivalent of phrenology,” says Jeffrey Lieberman, APA president-elect, author of the textbook “Psychiatry” and chairman of Psychiatry at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. (Phrenology was the pseudoscience, popular in the early 19th century, that said the mind was determined by the shape of the skull, particularly its bumps.) “The claims he makes are not supported by reliable science, and one has to be skeptical about his motivation.”
“I think you have a vulnerable patient population that doesn’t know any better,” says M. Elizabeth Oates, chair of the Commission on Nuclear Medicine, Board of Chancellors at the American College of Radiology, and chair of the department of radiology at the University of Kentucky.
“A sham,” says Martha J. Farah, director of the Center for Neuroscience & Society at the University of Pennsylvania, summing up her thoughts on one of Amen’s most recent scientific papers.
“I guess we’re all amateurs except for him,” says Helen Mayberg, a psychiatry, neurology and radiology professor at Emory School of Medicine and one of the most respected researchers into depression and brain scanning. “He’s making claims that are outrageous and not supported by any research.”
You're not doing something right unless you have haters.GhostOfTrayvon posted...CocteauQuintplt posted...
COVxy posted...
Amen collects a lot of SPECT images in their clinic, and as such have one of the most elaborate databases of images for research purposes.
Officials at major psychiatric and neuroscience associations and research centers say his SPECT claims are no more than myth and poppycock, buffaloing an unsuspecting public.
None of the nation’s most prestigious medical organizations in the field — including the APA, the National Institute of Mental Health, the American College of Radiology, the Society of Nuclear Medicine and Molecular Imaging and the National Alliance on Mental Illness — validates his claims.
No major research institution takes his SPECT work seriously, none regards him as “the number one neuroscience guy,” and his revelations, which he presents to rapt audiences as dispatches from the front ranks of science, make the top tier of scientists roll their eyes or get very angry.
“In my opinion, what he’s doing is the modern equivalent of phrenology,” says Jeffrey Lieberman, APA president-elect, author of the textbook “Psychiatry” and chairman of Psychiatry at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. (Phrenology was the pseudoscience, popular in the early 19th century, that said the mind was determined by the shape of the skull, particularly its bumps.) “The claims he makes are not supported by reliable science, and one has to be skeptical about his motivation.”
“I think you have a vulnerable patient population that doesn’t know any better,” says M. Elizabeth Oates, chair of the Commission on Nuclear Medicine, Board of Chancellors at the American College of Radiology, and chair of the department of radiology at the University of Kentucky.
“A sham,” says Martha J. Farah, director of the Center for Neuroscience & Society at the University of Pennsylvania, summing up her thoughts on one of Amen’s most recent scientific papers.
“I guess we’re all amateurs except for him,” says Helen Mayberg, a psychiatry, neurology and radiology professor at Emory School of Medicine and one of the most respected researchers into depression and brain scanning. “He’s making claims that are outrageous and not supported by any research.”
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