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Friday, October 13, 2017

Ethnic cleansing in Myanmar continues

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ElatedVenusaur 14 hours ago#1
Cheater87 14 hours ago#2
Wow, the US media has been ignoring this for so long! Glad they are finally talking about it.
JlM 14 hours ago#3
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Chaosmaster00 14 hours ago#4
What the flying shit.
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NINExATExSEVEN 14 hours ago#5
Have you guys seen the interviews of the Buddhists there? It's chilling stuff. They say some messed up shit to justify their atrocities.
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DarkChozoGhost 14 hours ago#6
Yikes. I knew it was bad, but didn't know it was that bad
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SGT_Conti 14 hours ago#7
Jesus Christ, that child's drawing.
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pres_madagascar 14 hours ago#8
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Have you guys seen the interviews of the Buddhists there? It's chilling stuff. They say some messed up shit to justify their atrocities.

Look at Facebook comments on BBC articles about it. They're fucking deplorable people.
Ammonitida 14 hours ago#9
"Peaceful" Buddhists.
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Sir Will 14 hours ago#11
Horrific. Absolutely disgusting....
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Perascamin 13 hours ago#12
This is terrible. How do you solve something like this?
I've grown.
why would CE care? half of them would hand-wave ethnic cleansing here in america
ThyCorndog 13 hours ago#14
butthole666  self proclaimed mentally ill13 hours ago#15
The lack of intervention by ANY major powers is honestly disgusting
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Delirious_Beard  attack on sight13 hours ago#16
wow
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Solar_Crimson 13 hours ago#17
Outer_space 13 hours ago#18
Fishy 13 hours ago#19
butthole666 posted...
The lack of intervention by ANY major powers is honestly disgusting

Can someone explain to me honestly how it's anyone else's problem.
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s0nicfan 13 hours ago#20
butthole666 posted...
The lack of intervention by ANY major powers is honestly disgusting


They're not letting UN inspectors into the country, so up until recently no country could act without declaring war and invading because there was no hard evidence. Now that the stories are piling up they may be able to force a response, but unfortunately it seems like Myanmar knows how to play their cards just right to delay intervention as long as possible.

It doesn't help that the root of the issue is effectively that the two sides fought on opposite sides during WW2 and then after someone (the UK I think?) decided that instead of splitting the country they'd have to live together. You're looking at the equivalent of 50 years of asking the nazis to live next to communists in peace and things exploding.

Also, every time the west gets involved, the rest of the world says "leave us alone", so this may be the unfortunate byproduct of most of the world telling the west they're sick of interventions. After 15+ years of "we kill you because you invade our countries" I guess the end result is "deal with it yourself, then"
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Samurontai 13 hours ago#21
Fishy posted...
butthole666 posted...
The lack of intervention by ANY major powers is honestly disgusting

Can someone explain to me honestly how it's anyone else's problem.


It's not, really

Plus the Muslims there weren't integrating (big surprise). They were trying to force their own belief systems onto the Myanmar people.

However, that doesn't excuse ethnic cleansing, so fuck Myanmar. There are better ways to deal with that shit than borderline genocide
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So we gonna take leader lady(not going to attempt to spell it)'s noble peace prize away?
Samurontai 13 hours ago#23
pres_madagascar posted...
So we gonna take leader lady(not going to attempt to spell it)'s noble peace prize away?


We gave Obama a noble peace prize while he was bombarding the Middle East with drones >__>

Obviously "peace" has a different definition here
s0nicfan 13 hours ago#24
pres_madagascar posted...
So we gonna take leader lady(not going to attempt to spell it)'s noble peace prize away?


If they didn't take it from Obama after setting a world record for drone strikes, I doubt they're going to take it from her.
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True >_>

Just kinda funny they're giving that thing to people who kill.
Sir Will 13 hours ago#26
Samurontai posted...
Plus the Muslims there weren't integrating (big surprise). They were trying to force their own belief systems onto the Myanmar people.

Oh fuck off.
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Samurontai 12 hours ago#27
Sir Will posted...
Samurontai posted...
Plus the Muslims there weren't integrating (big surprise). They were trying to force their own belief systems onto the Myanmar people.

Oh fuck off.


Nah

I clearly pointed out that how Myanmar is reacting to the problem is horrible as fuck, so I really don't know what has your panties in the bunch.

It's okay buddy, you're allowed to criticize Islam and still be a good person :(
s0nicfan 12 hours ago#28
Sir Will posted...
Samurontai posted...
Plus the Muslims there weren't integrating (big surprise). They were trying to force their own belief systems onto the Myanmar people.

Oh fuck off.


Myanmar has openly considered them occupying non-citizens since as far back as WW2. It's been 75 years of that:
After the Allies won, the Rohingya hoped to win independence or join East Pakistan (today’s Bangladesh), which was also majority Muslim and ethnically similar to the Rohingya. But the British, eager to appease Myanmar’s Buddhist majority, decreed that the Rohingya areas would become part of newly independent Myanmar (then called Burma), setting the Rohingya up for decades of discrimination.


Also as the TC's article says:
The two main ethnic groups in her village, the Buddhist Rakhines and the Muslim Rohingya, were like two planes drawn to never touch. They followed different religions, spoke different languages, ate different foods and have always distrusted each other.


It was always going to come to this, because after 75 years the Rohingya had still not integrated. Let's not forget this all started because Rohingya militants were actively attacking the military in a bid to create their own autonomous region.

Again, as others have said, this is an atrocity, but to pretend like this came out of nowhere is to not know the history either.
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Samurontai 12 hours ago#29
Sir Will 12 hours ago#30
s0nicfan posted...
It was always going to come to this, because after 75 years the Rohingya had still not integrated.

How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.

s0nicfan posted...
but to pretend like this came out of nowhere is to not know the history either.

I didn't.
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ElatedVenusaur 12 hours ago#31
Lots of victim-blaming going on ITT. Remember, if the government treats you like crap, you're not supposed to try to do anything about it, because you might justify them genociding your people.
This kind of thinking is disgusting. Genocide is never "understandable".
Samurontai 12 hours ago#32
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?

They failed to even attempt any sort of integration since the moment they arrived

This is not uncommon when it comes to Muslims who migrate to other cultures lands
Samurontai 12 hours ago#33
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Lots of victim-blaming going on ITT. Remember, if the government treats you like crap, you're not supposed to try to do anything about it, because you might justify them genociding your people.
This kind of thinking is disgusting. Genocide is never "understandable".


Nobody is victim blaming, nobody is justifying genocide, and nobody is saying that genocide is understandable

Are you even reading the same topic? Lmao
Samurontai 12 hours ago#34
There's a difference between saying "Genocide is good" and providing a reason for said genocide.

There was a reason behind the Jewish genocide during WW2, but you do not say anybody "justifies" it by naming the reasoning (which is Germans saw the Jews as the problems behibd their suffering) which is also dumb
ElatedVenusaur 12 hours ago#35
Samurontai posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Lots of victim-blaming going on ITT. Remember, if the government treats you like crap, you're not supposed to try to do anything about it, because you might justify them genociding your people.
This kind of thinking is disgusting. Genocide is never "understandable".


Nobody is victim blaming, nobody is justifying genocide, and nobody is saying that genocide is understandable

Are you even reading the same topic? Lmao

Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?

They failed to even attempt any sort of integration since the moment they arrived

This is not uncommon when it comes to Muslims who migrate to other cultures lands

Are you reading your own posts? You're literally saying the Rohingya brought this upon themselves.
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Samurontai 12 hours ago#36
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Samurontai posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Lots of victim-blaming going on ITT. Remember, if the government treats you like crap, you're not supposed to try to do anything about it, because you might justify them genociding your people.
This kind of thinking is disgusting. Genocide is never "understandable".


Nobody is victim blaming, nobody is justifying genocide, and nobody is saying that genocide is understandable

Are you even reading the same topic? Lmao

Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?

They failed to even attempt any sort of integration since the moment they arrived

This is not uncommon when it comes to Muslims who migrate to other cultures lands

Are you reading your own posts?


That's not me justifying anything though

That's me answering his question of "how do you integrate"

Are you so incapable of basic reading comprehension, that you actually see me justifying genocide in that post?

Like holy hell dude
Edit: didn't see your edit in time

Uh, I'm not saying they brought this on themselves at all?

Are you trolling right now. Please tell me you're trolling
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GeneralZhao 12 hours ago#37
Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?


you're right they should just give up what they believe in just like that. And how do you know that they didn't make an effort to follow customs?

holy hell dude be more dense
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Samurontai 12 hours ago#38
GeneralZhao posted...
Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?


you're right they should just give up what they believe in just like that

holy hell dude be more dense


Did you purposefully ignore the rest of that sentence which suggests that they keep their beliefs but at least attempt to integrate culturally?

Also the irony of you calling me dense whole simultaneously also apparently being incapable of reading more than a few words into a sentence at a time, is absolutely hilarious
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Sir Will 12 hours ago#39
Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?

They failed to even attempt any sort of integration since the moment they arrived

This is not uncommon when it comes to Muslims who migrate to other cultures lands

Wow, just... wow. Why the fuck should they give up their religion? And what do you mean 'moment they arrived'?
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Samurontai 12 hours ago#40
Sir Will posted...
Samurontai posted...
Sir Will posted...
How do you integrate into a place that doesn't consider you a part of the country? And, it seems from this treatment, not even human.


By... integrating? Giving up their religion, or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?

They failed to even attempt any sort of integration since the moment they arrived

This is not uncommon when it comes to Muslims who migrate to other cultures lands

Wow, just... wow. Why the fuck should they give up their religion? And what do you mean 'moment they arrived'?


It's like everyone itt took acid or something

or at least attempting to follow the cultural customs set by the indigenous people of that land while keeping their faiths?
Samurontai 12 hours ago#41
I love how my first post itt was basically condemning the actions of Myanmar

But then I get called out for defending genocide

Like.... what
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ThyCorndog 12 hours ago#42
aren't rohyinga indigenous to that part of myanmar? confused about this indigenous talk
awesome999 12 hours ago#43
Disgusting
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Cardboard-Box 12 hours ago#44
ThyCorndog posted...
aren't rohyinga indigenous to that part of myanmar? confused about this indigenous talk


It's debated. How long does one have to live in a region to be considered indigenous? The Rohingyas inhabit a historic region known as the ancient Arakan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakan
ThyCorndog 12 hours ago#45
Cardboard-Box posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
aren't rohyinga indigenous to that part of myanmar? confused about this indigenous talk


It's debated. How long does one have to live in a region to be considered indigenous? The Rohingyas inhabit a historic region known as the ancient Arakan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakan

yeah I was reading about it and they were there before anglo-saxons went to england, but no one's gonna argue that the english don't belong in england
LinkAndEpona 12 hours ago#46
Ammonitida posted...
"Peaceful" Buddhists.
PokemonYoutube 11 hours ago#47
Let the Arab oil states help them if they care so much about their "Muslim brothers". I'm perfectly fine with the West staying out of this one. Can't win with the Muslim crowd. Damned if you do help, damned if you don't. All we ever get in return is terrorism.
mario2000 11 hours ago#48
The Rakhines seem like they're basically another ISIS.
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awesome999 10 hours ago#50
PokemonYoutube posted...
Let the Arab oil states help them if they care so much about their "Muslim brothers". I'm perfectly fine with the West staying out of this one. Can't win with the Muslim crowd. Damned if you do help, damned if you don't. All we ever get in return is terrorism.

LinkAndEpona posted...
Ammonitida posted...
"Peaceful" Buddhists.

Both of you're making the same mistake on the opposite sides of the spectrum
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    Sir Will 11 hours ago#51
    mario2000 posted...
    The Rakhines seem like they're basically another ISIS.

    ...fuck off.
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    Bio1590 11 hours ago#52
    mario2000 posted...
    The Rakhines seem like they're basically another ISIS.

    I

    Wat
    Nikra 11 hours ago#53
    That bitch actual got the Nobel peace price. LMFAO
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