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Seriously, GTFO over yourself. No one is defending Weinstein, and you have ZERO evidence showing that blah, blah, blah definitely knew about it. There's a reason why non-disclosure agreements and confidentiality clauses are signed. L2 f***ing logic and focus on the actual criminal instead of constantly deflecting.
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HellOfHades 8 hours ago#2
Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.
Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#3
HellOfHades posted...
Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

The New York Times exposed this.
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Sczoyd 8 hours ago#4
Collective guilt for everyone!

I didn't even vote for Weinstein...
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HellOfHades 8 hours ago#5
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

The New York Times exposed this.


Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways. No Obama and Clinton to stop them. 

The great NYT buried this back in 2004 and lets rape and assaults continue for 10 more years. Look at the stalwarts of journalism.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#6
HellOfHades posted...
Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways.

Where is your evidence of this?
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HellOfHades 8 hours ago#7
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways.

Where is your evidence of this?


NYPD are not corrupt leftists.
Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#8
HellOfHades posted...
NYPD are not corrupt leftists.

I repeat: Where's your evidence that the NYTimes knew that the NYPD was about to release secret recordings that they didn't know about?
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Sariana21 8 hours ago#9
HellOfHades posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

The New York Times exposed this.


Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways. No Obama and Clinton to stop them. 

The great NYT buried this back in 2004 and lets rape and assaults continue for 10 more years. Look at the stalwarts of journalism.

2004--So...it's Bush's fault?
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HellOfHades 8 hours ago#10
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
NYPD are not corrupt leftists.

I repeat: Where's your evidence that the NYTimes knew that the NYPD was about to release secret recordings that they didn't know about?


Like I said, NYPD are not corrupt pieces of s***. They couldn't get the democrat DA to get a warrant for Harvey despite heavy proof under Obama administration. With Trump, they should they could at least put it out there so the public would know.
feudel 8 hours ago#11
HellOfHades posted...
Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.


its funny how you ignore trumps sexual misconduct
????????
Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#12
HellOfHades posted...
Like I said, NYPD are not corrupt pieces of s***. They couldn't get the democrat DA to get a warrant for Harvey despite heavy proof under Obama administration. With Trump, they should they could at least put it out there so the public would know.

I repeat for the third f***ing time, because you obviously have the reading comprehension of a 2nd grader:

Where is your f***ing evidence that the NY Times KNEW that the NYPD was about to release secret recordings?
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HellOfHades 8 hours ago#13
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
Like I said, NYPD are not corrupt pieces of s***. They couldn't get the democrat DA to get a warrant for Harvey despite heavy proof under Obama administration. With Trump, they should they could at least put it out there so the public would know.

I repeat for the third f***ing time, because you obviously have the reading comprehension of a 2nd grader:

Where is your f***ing evidence that the NY Times KNEW that the NYPD was about to release secret recordings?


Common sense. NYT timed their story a few days before they knew NYPD was going to put the recording out there. Unless you're claiming its all a big coincidence and NYT felt like being good all of sudden and take down a hollywood titan connected with top democrats with NYPD just coincidentally releasing the recording at the same time. I'm going to laugh at that.
HellOfHades 8 hours ago#14
This entire reveal even happened because NYPD stung Harvey. Otherwise NYT would have never done the expose. They would have kept it burried like they did in 2004.
Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#15
HellOfHades posted...
Common sense. NYT timed their story a few days before they knew NYPD was going to put the recording out there.

Ah, so thank you for admitting that you have zero evidence. Thanks for the trolling.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 8 hours ago#16
HellOfHades posted...
Unless you're claiming its all a big coincidence and NYT felt like being good all of sudden and take down a hollywood titan connected with top democrats with NYPD just coincidentally releasing the recording at the same time. I'm going to laugh at that.

It makes much more common sense for the NYPD to release the recording upon realizing that the Times story piqued the public interest.
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darkace77450 8 hours ago#17
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
HellOfHades posted...
Unless you're claiming its all a big coincidence and NYT felt like being good all of sudden and take down a hollywood titan connected with top democrats with NYPD just coincidentally releasing the recording at the same time. I'm going to laugh at that.

It makes much more common sense for the NYPD to release the recording upon realizing that the Times story piqued the public interest.


You know he's trolling. We know he's trolling. So why are you still responding to him?
KD003 7 hours ago#18
It's hilarious how conservatives have become feminists for a limited time only.
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young_flip 7 hours ago#19
conservatives and those indies who swing elections see the hypocrisy. the hubbub is not on leftists per se. it is on those moralizing leftists, the same ones who lecture America on not having the correct "values" or whatever, who screamed in faux shock when the trump tape came out, but remained silent for decades while Weinstein was busy violating potted plants and taking down some of the hottest girls America has to offer.
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Sczoyd 7 hours ago#20
young_flip posted...
conservatives and those indies who swing elections see the hypocrisy.


Yeah
The hypocrisy of the people who literally voted for a guy like this, now wagging their fingers.
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young_flip 7 hours ago#21
most conservatives and the indie swing voters knew Trump was a bad guy. they never pretended. the preachy leftists in Hollywood did pretend like they were above it all, being a sort of new holy American church disseminating cultural virtue to the unwashed masses. that is the difference.
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young_flip 7 hours ago#22
shutting this stuff down is too easy.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#23
young_flip posted...
but remained silent for decades while Weinstein was busy violating potted plants and taking down some of the hottest girls America has to offer.

Show evidence that they knew for a fact about it.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#24
young_flip posted...
the preachy leftists in Hollywood did pretend like they were above it all, being a sort of new holy American church disseminating cultural virtue to the unwashed masses. that is the difference.

What pretending? Weinstein was denounced and fired as soon as they knew for sure.
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battourye 6 hours ago#25
Maybe its because there's a certain liberal system where people who are known pederasts and sex offenders can continue to work and get applauded by liberal darlings.

Brian Singer, Harvey Weinstein, Victor Salva, Corey Haim's drug problems, so many child stars coming forward and admitting to being molested, ****ing Terry Crews coming forward. Its systematic in the media and for some odd reason the entirety of the media is covering it up. I don't care if we just focus on the liberals today because at least that means maybe ONE molester might go to jail today, and if the primary focus is that everyone is focusing on how the network of people around them helped cover it up, that's worth discussing too.

To paraphrase Jake Tapper from CNN "If the media isn't complicit, then why did an NBC reporter have to write the story that broke this for the New Yorker?"
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young_flip 6 hours ago#26
I don't understand the question. is deductive reasoning not a thing?
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MegatokyoEd 6 hours ago#27
THO is more unhinged than usual today.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#28
battourye posted...
Its systematic in the media and for some odd reason the entirety of the media is covering it up.

And yet, it was 'liberal' media that reported and exposed it.
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LightSnake 6 hours ago#29
MegatokyoEd posted...
THO is more unhinged than usual today.


He has to pretend he thinks what Weinstein did was wrong
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young_flip 6 hours ago#30
What pretending? Weinstein was denounced and fired as soon as they knew for sure.

no that is good they took care of it as soon as it became public. but Hollywood morality only extends to public displays of containment it seems, given by how long he was allowed to run roughshod over many of the finest starlets out there, or rather, how long they allowed him to run roughshod over them.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#31
young_flip posted...
given by how long he was allowed to run roughshod over many of the finest starlets out there, or rather, how long they allowed him to run roughshod over them.

Right, because sexism and power structures exists everywhere. No one denies that. You act like Hollywood is some kind of monolith. The good parts of Hollywood are the ones on the frontlines doing the 'moralizing'. The bad parts of Hollywood are hiding in the shadows, preying on the very liberals that you are now shaming.
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MegatokyoEd 6 hours ago#32
young_flip posted...
What pretending? Weinstein was denounced and fired as soon as they knew for sure.

no that is good they took care of it as soon as it became public. but Hollywood morality only extends to public displays of containment it seems, given by how long he was allowed to run roughshod over many of the finest starlets out there, or rather, how long they allowed him to run roughshod over them.


The entire Republican platform is built on Christian morality. Stop acting like they're not hypocritical turds.
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battourye 6 hours ago#33
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
battourye posted...
Its systematic in the media and for some odd reason the entirety of the media is covering it up.

And yet, it was 'liberal' media that reported and exposed it.


After decades of it being known with actual confessions on tape acquired by the police being in the possession of multiple major media sources. You're ignoring the very real fact that the media is a monolith that is protecting predators, and in this case many of the figures that tried to protect Weinstein are liberal.

How can actors who laughed when Seth McFarlane made a joke about actresses having to pretend to be attracted to Weinstein not help perpetuate the, yes, the actual Rape Culture of Hollywood? How can the people who knew his reputation, who even after the Special Victims Unit recorded him admitting to being used to just being able to molest women, took his money and support and looked away not be guilty of helping to perpetuate it?

You can't catch a serial killer twenty victims in and pat yourself on the back and say "at least nobody got hurt", the media culture is enabling and allowing rape, sexual harassment, and molestation to continue and the only thing you give a **** about is making sure it doesn't stain the liberal cause
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young_flip 6 hours ago#34
Right, because sexism and power structures exists everywhere. No one denies that. You act like Hollywood is some kind of monolith. The good parts of Hollywood are the ones on the frontlines doing the 'moralizing'. The bad parts of Hollywood are hiding in the shadows, preying on the very liberals that you are now shaming.

the point is that the ones on the front-lines knew what was happening with the "bad parts", some of them had direct personal experience with those bad parts, but continued to preach anyway. they saw the speck in everyone else's eye, but willfully ignored the mote in their own. events like these erode that high horse people like that are on, and whats more is there are probably much worse guys than Weinstein in that community.

MegatokyoEd posted...
The entire Republican platform is built on Christian morality. Stop acting like they're not hypocritical turds.

obviously. the fact you had to deflect speaks volumes though. its why indie nation is growing. there are no viable parties in politics anymore.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#35
battourye posted...
After decades of it being known with actual confessions on tape acquired by the police being in the possession of multiple major media sources. You're ignoring the very real fact that the media is a monolith that is protecting predators, and in this case many of the figures that tried to protect Weinstein are liberal.

Please cite actual non-victims that knew for a fact that Weinstein raped women and protected him.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#36
young_flip posted...
the point is that the ones on the front-lines knew what was happening with the "bad parts", some of them had direct personal experience with those bad parts, but continued to preach anyway.

Yes, they preached that sexual harassment existed everywhere, including inside Hollywood.
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WarDog2016 6 hours ago#37
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
young_flip posted...
but remained silent for decades while Weinstein was busy violating potted plants and taking down some of the hottest girls America has to offer.

Show evidence that they knew for a fact about it.


It's the culture. You want me to prove to you that "snitches get stitches" is a real mentality as well? 

At the end of the day guys, it's bbf***ingt. Just let his word twisting go, why carry on with him?

And the deflection from the left is most funny. I didn't think self appointed moral arbiters would have so much deflection in them.
MegatokyoEd 6 hours ago#38
I don't know whether the politicians themselves knew anything, but it's incredibly obvious numerous people in Hollywood did.

A victim already called out Affleck and Damon for knowing and doing nothing.
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LightSnake 6 hours ago#39
MegatokyoEd posted...
I don't know whether the politicians themselves knew anything, but it's incredibly obvious numerous people in Hollywood did.

A victim already called out Affleck and Damon for knowing and doing nothing.


It seems in Damon's case this was erroneous. The journalist who did the story backed him up there.
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Muhspaceaids 6 hours ago#40
Funny how showing evidence is crucial and daming if not done for lefties...unless its trump collusions.

Then its all "obviously they have evidence and they havent publicized it. Hes super donezo"
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young_flip 6 hours ago#41
WarDog2016 posted...
And the deflection from the left is most funny. I didn't think self appointed moral arbiters would have so much deflection in them.

they are fighting for dear life to stay aboard that horse.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#42
WarDog2016 posted...
And the deflection from the left is most funny. I didn't think self appointed moral arbiters would have so much deflection in them.

Who is deflecting? All of the condemnation from the Left has gone directly towards the actual perpetrators: Weinstein, OReilly, Trump, etc.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#43
WarDog2016 posted...
It's the culture. You want me to prove to you that "snitches get stitches" is a real mentality as well?

Again, please cite evidence that Weinstein's 'bosses' (aka Wall Street venture capitalists) were liberals.
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WarDog2016 6 hours ago#44
young_flip posted...
WarDog2016 posted...
And the deflection from the left is most funny. I didn't think self appointed moral arbiters would have so much deflection in them.

they are fighting for dear life to stay aboard that horse.


I simply don't understand why the righteous would not be able to plainly tell things how they are. And lol dems have been calling themselves the party of Jesus for quite a while now.

Lol
Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#45
WarDog2016 posted...
I simply don't understand why the righteous would not be able to plainly tell things how they are.

They're doing it as we speak. Liberals have exposed a seedy underbelly within Hollywood.
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WarDog2016 6 hours ago#46
Bbt falling off that rocker.
Clutch 6 hours ago#47
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
WarDog2016 posted...
I simply don't understand why the righteous would not be able to plainly tell things how they are.

They're doing it as we speak. Liberals have exposed a seedy underbelly within Hollywood.


Lol, liberals ARE the seedy underbelly of Hollywood.
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battourye 6 hours ago#48
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
battourye posted...
After decades of it being known with actual confessions on tape acquired by the police being in the possession of multiple major media sources. You're ignoring the very real fact that the media is a monolith that is protecting predators, and in this case many of the figures that tried to protect Weinstein are liberal.

Please cite actual non-victims that knew for a fact that Weinstein raped women and protected him.




"Aren't you concerned about HARMING the INDUSTRY"

http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/no-one-knew-about-harvey-weinstein-give-me-a-break/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harvey-weinstein-media_us_59d7b846e4b0f6eed35011fc

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/10/george-clooney-heard-rumors-for-years-about-harvey-weinsteins-alleged-indefensible-behavior.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/harvey-weinstein-scandal-analysis-2017-10

http://deadline.com/2008/09/harvey-weinsteins-offer-i-cant-refuse-7090/

Multiple reporters tried to report that Weinstein committed ASSAULT. When a reporter tried to cover it Matt ****ing Damon called them about it. Clooney "heard rumors" about it, Seth McFarlane made jokes about it, 30 Rock made jokes about having to turn down requests for sex from him. 

If a man in public throws people up against the wall by their neck, puts reporters in headlocks, throws reporters down the stairs, has multiple settlements over sexual harassment charges, harassed a dying man and his family for money, then when a reporter reported about it tried to harass the subject into denying it, does all this in the public record, you don't get to act surprised that for some reason he keeps casting young ingenues who disappear after his film. Clooney doesn't get to say that "so what a powerful man is going after young women, and also yeah he is incredibly violent in public, but how could I know that a man who assaults people in public might also be a bad guy in private".

And people looked away until someone finally made the populace notice it for just long enough to force action. Of course you'll tell me they couldn't have put it all together, that not everyone would know things that were squashed before it could make print, but if you're friends and collaborators with someone for years, then you're just not looking hard enough.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#49
^ You just listed a bunch of articles that cited rumors and innuendo. Again, there were no facts and proof.
AND AGAIN, once they knew for sure, they've completely condemned and disavowed him. NONE of his so-called 'enablers' or former friends are defending him.

On the flip side, Trump CONTINUES to get enabled by 40% of this country. OREILLY was rehired IMMEDIATELY by another conservative outlet. You guys CONTINUE to defend and SUPPORT sexual predators.
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battourye 6 hours ago#50
And of course, I'm treating this much like the police. Not every cop knows that another cop has done something bad. But they know the system is wrong. When you get a preponderance of a result from a system, that system is flawed and biased, and the people have to know it, but they're comparing the costs. 

The police system in America is flawed and its results are more dead young black men. Our entertainment industry is flawed and it results in more child molestations and sexual assaults.

Both of those are composed of people who might be good, but they do nothing. A cop who lets his squadmates share pictures of Harambe the gorilla with a caption saying "This is the only good African American", then he shares part of the blame. He is leveraging something against the reality that his system is broken and produces horrifying results. If anyone in the entertainment industry or the media lets this go on, doesn't ask questions, just allows for the situation to get to the point where multiple child actors can come out as being molested, where jokes can openly get tossed around, normalizing sexual predation by powerful figures, then they are part of the problem.

Of course, BBT is more offended that I used the term liberal than that women were assaulted, so why do I bother.
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#51
    battourye posted...
    Our entertainment industry is flawed and it results in more child molestations and sexual assaults.

    Both of those are composed of people who might be good, but they do nothing. A cop who lets his squadmates share pictures of Harambe the gorilla with a caption saying "This is the only good African American", then he shares part of the blame. He is leveraging something against the reality that his system is broken and produces horrifying results. If anyone in the entertainment industry or the media lets this go on, doesn't ask questions, just allows for the situation to get to the point where multiple child actors can come out as being molested, where jokes can openly get tossed around, normalizing sexual predation by powerful figures, then they are part of the problem.

    And now they're openly condemning him and they took him down. Weinstein has been fired and blacklisted and he'll never get hired again by any company controlled by liberal board members.

    So why is Trump still president? SO why hasn't the police or Justice Dept gotten its act together? Why did OReilly get rehired almost immediately by another conservative outlet after FOX News hired him? Why do millions of conservative audience continue to get their news from a known sexual predator?
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    andel 6 hours ago#52
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    After decades of it being known with actual confessions on tape acquired by the police being in the possession of multiple major media sources. You're ignoring the very real fact that the media is a monolith that is protecting predators, and in this case many of the figures that tried to protect Weinstein are liberal.

    Please cite actual non-victims that knew for a fact that Weinstein raped women and protected him.


    ben affleck knew and he sexually assaulted women too
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#53
    andel posted...
    ben affleck knew and he sexually assaulted women too

    Citation please.
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    darkace77450 6 hours ago#54
    MegatokyoEd posted...
    I don't know whether the politicians themselves knew anything, but it's incredibly obvious numerous people in Hollywood did.




    That's an awful lot of laughs from a room full of Hollywood's elite. They knew, yet they said nothing.
    andel 6 hours ago#55
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    ben affleck knew and he sexually assaulted women too

    Citation please.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/rose-mcgowan-says-ben-affleck-knew-about-harvey-weinsteins-behavior-2017-10

    mcgowan herself
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    andel 6 hours ago#56
    idk why bbt is having a melty about this...it is weird tbh
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#57
    That was a joke about flirting, but whatevers.
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    battourye 6 hours ago#58
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    ^ You just listed a bunch of articles that cited rumors and innuendo. Again, there were no facts and proof.
    AND AGAIN, once they knew for sure, they've completely condemned and disavowed him. NONE of his so-called 'enablers' or former friends are defending him.

    On the flip side, Trump CONTINUES to get enabled by 40% of this country. OREILLY was rehired IMMEDIATELY by another conservative outlet. You guys CONTINUE to defend and SUPPORT sexual predators.


    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVES.

    WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT FOX NEWS!

    Trump gets attacked for his gross statements. Every wrong thing he has done is being amplified and broadcast for the whole world to see. The problem we have with him is that everyone at this point knows that he's a lying, abusive, psychopathic piece of ****. They just happen to value him for it. The problem with the liberal side of the equation is that its more insidious in that they actually claim to stand for something. Trump has never betrayed anything he stood for because he can't stand anything that isn't himself.

    I'm a ****ing liberal man who trolls for fun to distract himself from travelling all the time for his job. You're the man who is given actual proof that a powerful figure assaults people in public, and this isn't just a private thing. Everyone in Hollywood had a Harvey Weinstein story, these were public events.

    Would you be friends with someone who assaulted a reporter? Who shouts at women he disagrees with and calls them c-? Who is on the record as abusing anyone underneath him? Who calls random interns **** Face? Who assaulted Nathan Lane for a joke he didn't like at a major party? Who is on the record as having assaulted Taplin for getting movie rights he wanted? Who screams "I'm gonna ****ing rip your balls off!" at people?

    And its all laughed off as someone just being SO passionate. 

    And its not just Weinstein. Terry Crews came forward with another one, Ben Savage, Elijah Wood, Corey Haim, Corey Feldman, so many others have come forward. Its to the point where we can't say its the seedy underbelly of Hollywood. Its a dark corner of Hollywood that gets laughed about and accepted and normalized through humor and fear of that sweet, sweet money train stopping from coming in.
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#59
    andel posted...
    http://www.businessinsider.com/rose-mcgowan-says-ben-affleck-knew-about-harvey-weinsteins-behavior-2017-10
    mcgowan herself

    Ah, so 2nd-hand hearsay.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    andel 6 hours ago#60
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2017/10/11/amid-harvey-weinstein-allegations-ben-affleck-accused-of-groping-hilarie-burton/#253a232e2368

    and ben affleck apologized for groping hilarie burton
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    battourye 6 hours ago#61
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    That was a joke about flirting, but whatevers.


    Are you saying that Rose McGowan, a sexual assault victim, is lying?

    That she's making up Ben Affleck's knowledge of her violation?
    Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
    Currently Listening To: Ondore's Lies
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#62
    battourye posted...
    The problem with the liberal side of the equation is that its more insidious in that they actually claim to stand for something. Trump has never betrayed anything he stood for because he can't stand anything that isn't himself.

    Liberals DO stand for something, AND THEY TOOK DOWN A MAJOR BOSS. It was liberals who brought up Weinstein. It was liberals who exposed Weinstein. And it is now liberals who have condemned him and kicked him out of any future opportunity.

    Conservative ARE SUPPOSED TO STAND for family values, BUT REFUSE TO TAKE DOWN TRUMP.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
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    andel 6 hours ago#63
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    http://www.businessinsider.com/rose-mcgowan-says-ben-affleck-knew-about-harvey-weinsteins-behavior-2017-10
    mcgowan herself

    Ah, so 2nd-hand hearsay.


    so the sexual assault victim is lying when it's ben affleck? don't be a scumbag bbt
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    andel 6 hours ago#64
    and he already apologized for sexually assaulting burton...sorry bbt, you lose here
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#65
    battourye posted...
    re you saying that Rose McGowan, a sexual assault victim, is lying?

    That she's making up Ben Affleck's knowledge of her violation?

    She doesn't have to lie. She simply doesn't know what is in Ben Affleck's head. That's called hearsay.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    darkace77450 6 hours ago#66
    andel posted...
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    http://www.businessinsider.com/rose-mcgowan-says-ben-affleck-knew-about-harvey-weinsteins-behavior-2017-10
    mcgowan herself

    Ah, so 2nd-hand hearsay.


    so the sexual assault victim is lying when it's ben affleck? don't be a scumbag bbt


    He's one step shy of victim blaming ITT. It's pretty disgusting, to be honest.
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#67
    andel posted...
    and he already apologized for sexually assaulting burton...sorry bbt, you lose here

    Weinstein has also apologized, but liberals are still make sure to take him down.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    darkace77450 6 hours ago#68
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    and he already apologized for sexually assaulting burton...sorry bbt, you lose here

    Weinstein has also apologized, but liberals are still make sure to take him down.


    After how many years of enabling him? After how many women were assaulted?
    WarDog2016 6 hours ago#69
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    WarDog2016 posted...
    I simply don't understand why the righteous would not be able to plainly tell things how they are.

    They're doing it as we speak. Liberals have exposed a seedy underbelly within Hollywood.


    Lol "atm we are a hivemind you guys"

    Can't make this shot up.
    andel 6 hours ago#70
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    and he already apologized for sexually assaulting burton...sorry bbt, you lose here

    Weinstein has also apologized, but liberals are still make sure to take him down.


    and we should take down affleck too since he admitted he sexually assaulted hilarie burton, he is just as much a piece of s*** as weinstein
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    andel 6 hours ago#71
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    re you saying that Rose McGowan, a sexual assault victim, is lying?

    That she's making up Ben Affleck's knowledge of her violation?

    She doesn't have to lie. She simply doesn't know what is in Ben Affleck's head. That's called hearsay.


    she does know he was aware of weinstein behavior, as has been outlined. affleck said nothing about weinsteins sexual assault because he sexually assaulted at least one woman as well
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#72
    andel posted...
    she does know he was aware of weinstein behavior, as has been outlined.

    Again, she has no evidence of it. It's just hearsay. You can't claim to know what's in someone's mind without direct evidence.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    battourye 6 hours ago#73
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    re you saying that Rose McGowan, a sexual assault victim, is lying?

    That she's making up Ben Affleck's knowledge of her violation?

    She doesn't have to lie. She simply doesn't know what is in Ben Affleck's head. That's called hearsay.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/movies/rose-mcgowan-ben-affleck-matt-damon-weinstein.html

    The Times emailed Ms. McGowan to confirm that she was asserting that Mr. Affleck knew about Mr. Weinstein’s mistreatment of her because she had told him, and that she was accusing Mr. Affleck of lying because his statement did not acknowledge awareness of Mr. Weinstein’s behavior.

    “I am saying exactly that,” she replied to The Times. She wrote nothing further.


    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    And its not like actresses didn't know about it. Angelina Jolie at least has confirmed telling other women about it in the industry to try and protect them from Weinstein.
    Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
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    andel 6 hours ago#74
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    she does know he was aware of weinstein behavior, as has been outlined.

    Again, she has no evidence of it. It's just hearsay. You can't claim to know what's in someone's mind without direct evidence.


    stop defending someone who just apologized for sexual assault and calling the victim a liar...wtf
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#75
    darkace77450 posted...
    After how many years of enabling him? After how many women were assaulted?

    No one denies that people made mistakes or were ignorant. What matters is that the facts are getting exposed and that they've taken a stand.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#76
    andel posted...
    stop defending someone who just apologized for sexual assault and calling the victim a liar...wtf

    Just because someone could be mistaken, doesn't mean that they're a liar. STop with the f***ing ignorance.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    andel 6 hours ago#77
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    stop defending someone who just apologized for sexual assault and calling the victim a liar...wtf

    Just because someone could be mistaken, doesn't mean that they're a liar. STop with the f***ing ignorance.


    she isn't mistaken because we now know affleck sexually assaulted women as well...how dense are you and why are you defending people that admit to sexually assaulting women while attacking the credibility of victims?
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#78
    battourye posted...
    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    Again, her telling him about it, doesn't mean that Affleck knew that it happened. He might not have believed her.

    Again, that would be a mistake on his part. But that doesn't mean that he knowingly protected someone.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    andel 6 hours ago#79
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    Again, her telling him about it, doesn't mean that Affleck knew that it happened. He might not have believed her.

    Again, that would be a mistake on his part. But that doesn't mean that he knowingly protected someone.


    he just admitted to sexually assaulting hilarie burton...why would someone just like weinstein not speak out? wtf is wrong with you
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    battourye 6 hours ago#80
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    Again, her telling him about it, doesn't mean that Affleck knew that it happened. He might not have believed her.

    Again, that would be a mistake on his part. But that doesn't mean that he knowingly protected someone.


    So, the part about him then going

    “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. 

    Was that then just Rose McGowan imagining this, imagining that someone she told this said that he had told Weinstein to stop doing that?

    Or was it just a good joke that you say to women who tell them they were assaulted sexually by someone you know and are in a working relationship with?
    Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
    Currently Listening To: Ondore's Lies
    andel 6 hours ago#81
    battourye posted...
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    Again, her telling him about it, doesn't mean that Affleck knew that it happened. He might not have believed her.

    Again, that would be a mistake on his part. But that doesn't mean that he knowingly protected someone.


    So, the part about him then going

    “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. 

    Was that then just Rose McGowan imagining this, imagining that someone she told this said that he had told Weinstein to stop doing that?

    Or was it just a good joke that you say to women who tell them they were assaulted sexually by someone you know and are in a working relationship with?
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    WarDog2016 6 hours ago#82
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    darkace77450 posted...
    After how many years of enabling him? After how many women were assaulted?

    No one denies that people made mistakes or were ignorant. What matters is that the facts are getting exposed and that they've taken a stand.


    It's called a business decision, bbt...wtf? Lol l2l
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#83
    andel posted...
    he just admitted to sexually assaulting hilarie burton...why would someone just like weinstein not speak out? wtf is wrong with you

    So, as a proper liberal, Affleck is admitting his mistakes and condemning people that deserve to be condemned, and will work to make up for anything that he may have done.

    Why haven't you applied the same towards Trump, OReilly, etc.? They continue to support him, and have refused to apologize or change their behavior.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#84
    WarDog2016 posted...
    It's called a business decision, bbt...wtf? Lol l2l

    Not just talking about Weinstein Company. Pretty much all liberals and Democrats. They've all cut ties with him, even though they would get more money if they try to defend him and keep him in power.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    andel 6 hours ago#85
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    he just admitted to sexually assaulting hilarie burton...why would someone just like weinstein not speak out? wtf is wrong with you

    So, as a proper liberal, Affleck is admitting his mistakes and condemning people that deserve to be condemned, and will work to make up for anything that he may have done.

    Why haven't you applied the same towards Trump, OReilly, etc.? They continue to support him, and have refused to apologize or change their behavior.


    i don't support trump or oreilly wtf they are scumbags but we know for certain affleck both sexually assaulted at least one woman and covered up weinsteins misconduct for years and you only hand waive it...really?
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Clutch 6 hours ago#86
    BBT literally victim blaming in this topic.
    "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
    Clutch 6 hours ago#87
    andel posted...
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    he just admitted to sexually assaulting hilarie burton...why would someone just like weinstein not speak out? wtf is wrong with you

    So, as a proper liberal, Affleck is admitting his mistakes and condemning people that deserve to be condemned, and will work to make up for anything that he may have done.

    Why haven't you applied the same towards Trump, OReilly, etc.? They continue to support him, and have refused to apologize or change their behavior.


    i don't support trump or oreilly wtf they are scumbags but we know for certain affleck both sexually assaulted at least one woman and covered up weinsteins misconduct for years and you only hand waive it...really?


    But he's a "proper liberal"!
    "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#88
    Clutch posted...
    BBT literally victim blaming in this topic.

    Who's victim blaming? Who's saying that Rose McGowan deserved to get assaulted? That's right, nobody.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    andel 6 hours ago#89
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    Clutch posted...
    BBT literally victim blaming in this topic.

    Who's victim blaming? Who's saying that Rose McGowan deserved to get assaulted? That's right, nobody.


    you are calling her a liar when we know affleck covered for weinstein and sexually assaulted women himself
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    Clutch 6 hours ago#90
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    Clutch posted...
    BBT literally victim blaming in this topic.

    Who's victim blaming? Who's saying that Rose McGowan deserved to get assaulted? That's right, nobody.


    The person who is calling her a liar, i.e. you.
    "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#91
    andel posted...
    i don't support trump or oreilly wtf they are scumbags but we know for certain affleck both sexually assaulted at least one woman and covered up weinsteins misconduct for years and you only hand waive it...really?

    If he didn't see it for himself, then it's not a coverup dude. He obviously knew Weinstein more than McGowan so he tended not to believe her.

    He made a mistake about that. He's realized that mistake, and seeing all of the evidence, and admits that he made a mistake, and now he's working to fix those issues. That's what liberals are supposed to do. Fix the issues when the evidence presents itself.

    On the flip side, conservative continue to support, enable, and celebrate sexual predators.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#92
    Clutch posted...
    The person who is calling her a liar, i.e. you.

    Where? OH, right, nowhere.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    Barenziah Boy Toy 6 hours ago#93
    andel posted...
    you are calling her a liar when we know affleck covered for weinstein and sexually assaulted women himself

    Please show where.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
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    Clutch 5 hours ago#94
    BBT's continued defense of Affleck is just baffling.
    "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
    Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#95
    Clutch posted...
    BBT's continued defense of Affleck is just baffling.

    Defend what?
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
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    Sczoyd 5 hours ago#96
    young_flip posted...
    most conservatives and the indie swing voters knew Trump was a bad guy. they never pretended. the preachy leftists in Hollywood did pretend like they were above it all, being a sort of new holy American church disseminating cultural virtue to the unwashed masses. that is the difference.


    Jesus Crust that's my f***ing point. And enough with the bulls***. Conservatives pretended to be the party of family values for decades, always pointing at gays, transgenders, the Clintons, Weiner, whatever they could, while invoking God to pretend to be pious.
    Then Trump comes along and you knew what he was, and you voted for him.

    Who the f*** is Harvey Weinstein to me or any other liberal outside of a few people in Hollywood? He's not a spokesperson, nobody voted for him, but you, knew fully well about Trump and that was okay. So you all can take your moralizing and shove it up your asses.
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    andel 5 hours ago#97
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    andel posted...
    i don't support trump or oreilly wtf they are scumbags but we know for certain affleck both sexually assaulted at least one woman and covered up weinsteins misconduct for years and you only hand waive it...really?

    If he didn't see it for himself, then it's not a coverup dude. He obviously knew Weinstein more than McGowan so he tended not to believe her.

    He made a mistake about that. He's realized that mistake, and seeing all of the evidence, and admits that he made a mistake, and now he's working to fix those issues. That's what liberals are supposed to do. Fix the issues when the evidence presents itself.

    On the flip side, conservative continue to support, enable, and celebrate sexual predators.


    we know conservatives are scumbags, that doesn't mean you should call mcgowan a liar when she said affleck told her 'i told him to stop doing that'
    I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
    battourye 5 hours ago#98
    andel posted...
    battourye posted...
    Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
    battourye posted...
    So tell me which of the two you want me to believe: that a sexual assault victim can't be trusted to tell us who victimized them and who knew about it, or that Ben Affleck knew about the sexual assault and didn't do anything about it.

    Again, her telling him about it, doesn't mean that Affleck knew that it happened. He might not have believed her.

    Again, that would be a mistake on his part. But that doesn't mean that he knowingly protected someone.


    So, the part about him then going

    “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. 

    Was that then just Rose McGowan imagining this, imagining that someone she told this said that he had told Weinstein to stop doing that?

    Or was it just a good joke that you say to women who tell them they were assaulted sexually by someone you know and are in a working relationship with?


    Is she lying BBT, or are you saying that someone who is willing to laugh off or cover up sexual assaults for over a decade can be redeemed by just saying they'll try REALLY hard to not do so again in the future...when they're caught out in the open?

    It doesn't take courage to apologize and say that you have a problem when your sins are brought out into the public. Would he have ever acknowledged that he groped that woman all that time ago? Will he ever acknowledge that he either laughed off a woman earnestly telling him she was assaulted?

    The thing is, this doesn't matter to you. You don't care about the women in this case, this topic proves it. From the very beginning you just want to make sure that liberals don't get too maligned, that this terrible, terrible thing isn't endemic to the system, that its just a small problem that can't be helped, that is not created by the system in place, that the limousine liberals and the rich in Hollywood in no way help perpetuate.

    You're rape culture.
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    Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#99
    Reminder: 

    No 'preachy leftists' looked up to Harvey Weinstein as a f***ing role model.
    You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard
    {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite}
    Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#100
    battourye posted...
    Is she lying BBT, or are you saying that someone who is willing to laugh off or cover up sexual assaults for over a decade can be redeemed by just saying they'll try REALLY hard to not do so again in the future...when they're caught out in the open?

    I am saying that Ben Affleck believed one person over the other. That's how hearsay works.

    Hearsay =/= I think she's lying.
    Hearsay = second-hand conversation, observation.

    Affleck DID NOT KNOW because HE DIDN'T SEE IT. And he believed his boss more than he did a stranger. No one is claiming that she lied.

    Are you f***ing literate at all beyond 4th grade?
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      darkace77450 5 hours ago#101
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      Reminder: 

      No 'preachy leftists' looked up to Harvey Weinstein as a f***ing role model.


      Nah, they just turned a blind eye as he raped his way across Hollywood because they didn't want to jeopardize their careers.
      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#102
      darkace77450 posted...
      Nah, they just turned a blind eye as he raped his way across Hollywood because they didn't want to jeopardize their careers.

      I have no idea whether they turned a blind eye or not. There is no evidence showing that they knew for a fact the exact details of what he was doing.

      And yet we celebrate and elevate Trump and OReilly.
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      andel 5 hours ago#103
      mcgowan claimed affleck told her 'i told him to stop doing that' so either mcgowan is lying or affleck knew
      I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
      darkace77450 5 hours ago#104
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      darkace77450 posted...
      Nah, they just turned a blind eye as he raped his way across Hollywood because they didn't want to jeopardize their careers.

      And yet we celebrate and elevate Trump and OReilly.


      I don't know who "we" is, but in my circles those two are regarded quite poorly.
      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#105
      andel posted...
      mcgowan claimed affleck told her 'i told him to stop doing that' so either mcgowan is lying or affleck knew

      Or that Affleck didn't believe her, or wasn't sure, but was just trying to placate her anyway, and trying to toe the line.
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      hoax123 5 hours ago#106
      No one i know is defending Weinstein, so i dont understand why republicans are going "B...but evul democrats!" all of the sudden.
      I dont know why republicans pretends to care though, half of the people on fox are sex offenders, nevermind the guy they elected.
      Lock her up!
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#107
      darkace77450 posted...
      I don't know who "we" is, but in my circles those two are regarded quite poorly.

      We, as in America, or, at the very least 40% of America.

      On the flip side, 0.00000000000000000000000001% of America is defending Weinstein.
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      Clutch 5 hours ago#108
      BBT is a great example of why women don't report sexual assault.
      "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
      battourye 5 hours ago#109
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      Reminder: 

      No 'preachy leftists' looked up to Harvey Weinstein as a f***ing role model.


      Tell me:

      Did Ben Affleck knowingly minimize the sexual assault that was reported to him

      or

      Did an alleged sexual assault victim lie about the circumstances of her assault?

      It's either one. The claims she made are either false, or without a shadow of a doubt Affleck both knew that he had done so in the past and knew then that she did so again.

      In one case you're saying that a man who was caught groping one woman and not bothering himself at all with the sexual assault of another is a moral model for only confessing after public admonishment. Ben Affleck never stepped forward until it was too late and the Weinstein ship had sunk. In the other you're telling me sexual assault victims cannot be trusted to report the circumstances of their assault.

      And again, you're creating a new narrative. Did they "look up to Weinstein"? Perhaps not. But did Affleck, Clooney, Streep, so many others consider him a friend? Consider going into politics with his aid? Yes. Its almost frustrating that we're again confining ourselves merely to Weinstein, who is only notable because he himself is so notable. Yet we're defending the ability for Hollywood to look America in the eye, say they're sorry and regret everything, and now we can go back to our daily bread with a side of molestation.
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#110
      battourye posted...
      Did Ben Affleck knowingly minimize the sexual assault that was reported to him

      OR he UNknowingly minimized it. BECAUSE he was a young man who didn't know better, whose boss was a powerful figure.
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      andel 5 hours ago#111
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      andel posted...
      mcgowan claimed affleck told her 'i told him to stop doing that' so either mcgowan is lying or affleck knew

      Or that Affleck didn't believe her, or wasn't sure, but was just trying to placate her anyway, and trying to toe the line.


      affleck told mcgowan that he told weinstein to stop doing that, meaning affleck was aware of it
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      battourye 5 hours ago#112
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      andel posted...
      mcgowan claimed affleck told her 'i told him to stop doing that' so either mcgowan is lying or affleck knew

      Or that Affleck didn't believe her, or wasn't sure, but was just trying to placate her anyway, and trying to toe the line.


      The best case scenario that you've constructed is that he didn't believe a survivor of sexual assault.

      You are ardently arguing for a man who your best case scenario is that he believed that a woman was just lying about being sexually assaulted. Then he worked with a man who had open rumors about being aggressive with women for decades.

      Is it so wrong to just admit that Affleck is a bad apple? That just maybe he perpetuates the rape culture?

      Or does it offend you that you're wrong in any way?
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#113
      battourye posted...
      and now we can go back to our daily bread with a side of molestation.

      The molester has been ousted out of power, by the very liberals that you're condemning.

      On the flip side, conservative CONTINUE TO ELEVATE the very molesters into NEW POSITIONS of power.
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      Honestly I think it's nice to see liberals eating one of their own for a change. I doubt the poor guy deserves it, but he made his bed, did some bad stuff, and now the wolves have a taste of blood and they're not going to stop.
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      battourye 5 hours ago#115
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      battourye posted...
      Did Ben Affleck knowingly minimize the sexual assault that was reported to him

      OR he UNknowingly minimized it. BECAUSE he was a young man who didn't know better, whose boss was a powerful figure.


      Absolutely BBT.

      We can then agree that the system of Hollywood is corrupt and complicit with the sexual harassment and rape of so many women and children.

      Now my question is why you're trying so hard to minimize that system, minimize that dismissal of rape.

      "He was just a young cop who was scared of that black man"

      "He was just scared of going to jail, that's why he killed her"

      "They didn't know any better, that's why he raped that drunk girl"

      You are consistently more upset at people pointing out rape and the cover up of rape, than the rape itself. You are like Trump who would rather tweet about Jemele Hill than Puerto Rico. You're a disgrace who argues in bad faith and it sickens me that someone like you shares my political ideology.
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#116
      battourye posted...
      Is it so wrong to just admit that Affleck is a bad apple? That just maybe he perpetuates the rape culture?

      Yes, I admit it. And if he's a good liberal, he'll admit to his ignorance and work to make up for it. The first step towards doing that is condemning his friend/coworker/boss and removing him from his life - which he has now done.

      I REPEAT: LIBERALS TOOK DOWN THEIR OWN BOSS--
      NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM, HE IS BEING BLACKLISTED AS WE SPEAK.

      THAT IS at least the first sign of a good liberal.

      And that's what separates us from conservatives - who continue to focus on elevating Trump and OREILLY - because they'd rather focus on spiting liberals than actually removing sexual predators from their midst.
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#117
      battourye posted...
      We can then agree that the system of Hollywood is corrupt and complicit with the sexual harassment and rape of so many women and children.

      Now my question is why you're trying so hard to minimize that system, minimize that dismissal of rape.
      "He was just a young cop who was scared of that black man"
      "He was just scared of going to jail, that's why he killed her"
      "They didn't know any better, that's why he raped that drunk girl"

      I AM NOT MINIMIZING ANYTHING -- LIBERALS JUST TOOK DOWN A MAJOR BOSS. They actually did something.

      We're still waiting for the government to take down corrupt cops. We're still waiting for conservatives to take down Trump and blacklist OReilly.

      That's the f***ing difference.
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      Dwavenhobble 5 hours ago#118
      Here's whats funny:

      1) he's yet another in a long line of men (That's growing daily) that a segment of the left were very big on who are seemingly been shown up as scumbags.

      2) This is the same segment of the left who are always chastising everyone else and accusing them of being rapist / supporting rape / being sexual harassers.

      3) The seeming only person who called this out or hinted anything was wrong long before (who wasn't a victim) or reporting rumors is Seth McFarlane who said segment of the left dislike because of the kind of jokes he has on his shows and did a joke about it but was the one not laughing there.
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      battourye 5 hours ago#119
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      battourye posted...
      and now we can go back to our daily bread with a side of molestation.

      The molester has been ousted out of power, by the very liberals that you're condemning.

      On the flip side, conservative CONTINUE TO ELEVATE the very molesters into NEW POSITIONS of power.


      THE LIBERALS, THE LIBERALS, THE LIBERALS MUH CONSERVATIVES.

      Again. You are more careful to point out who is doing the raping rather than care that a rape was committed. You're not concerned about the system except in that the conservatives can be blamed.

      Victor Salva still makes movies didn't you know. So does Brian Singer. So does so many others. But no, no, no, let's go after the Conservatives. Let's make sure that we focus on the Conservatives.

      Both sides do this BBT. No side is perfect. But you're the only one in this topic, either side, who's ardently trying to minimize the fact that rapes occur unless its politically convenient to you. You can't both say that the conservatives allow rapists to rise, then make excuses for when liberals allow rapists to rise. How much money is allowing a rapist to rise to power worth to you? At what point should we demand morality from people in exchange for sacrificing wealth?

      I know the answer, and I've done it. I've quit a job to make 2/3 of what I was because I didn't believe in it, and sometimes I still regret it. In any case I leave this topic because my sanity and heart cannot take the fact that we can plaster over rape so readily in the service of our cause.
      Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#120
      battourye posted...
      You are consistently more upset at people pointing out rape and the cover up of rape, than the rape itself.

      a) The people pointing out rape are liberals themselves.
      b) Conservatives are using this instance of liberals exposing Hollywood as an attack on liberals.

      So yeah, you can understand why you might be upset. It would be as if my mother reported that my father raped her and my sister, and then my childhood bully came along and started mocking me. Why wouldn't I be upset?
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#121
      battourye posted...
      Again. You are more careful to point out who is doing the raping rather than care that a rape was committed. You're not concerned about the system except in that the conservatives can be blamed.

      The system is capitalism and patriarchy. No one is immune from it - not even liberals. We're IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO FIX IT.

      So if you don't have anything useful to say, then BUTT THE f*** OUT and let us do our f***ing jobs.
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      #122
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#123
      battourye posted...
      No you goddamn idiot, its more like I'm upset that someone can take a young boy and rape them, and then years later they get find out and the whole ****ig family tells you that they're not to blame.

      Perhaps because the whole f***ing family was also abused. The point is that liberals and feminists are trying to fix the situation now, and conservatives are butting in for purely partisan reasons - when they CONTINUE to elevate their own Rapist-in-Chief.

      You wanna help? Well, let's start with helping to pass policies that improve corporate transparency and takes more control away from board members and into employees? Will conservatives help with that? NO? Then stfu, you're just as big of a problem.
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      Clutch 5 hours ago#124
      "Guys, if Weinstein is a good liberal all he has to do is admit his mistake and start making amends."

      -BBT
      "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
      Barenziah Boy Toy 5 hours ago#125
      battourye posted...
      uck those whoa ct like they can be mildly upset about it years later and its all good, its alright, its you who are the problem for crying and trying to run away and flinching you big baby

      Who's saying that it's all good and alright? We're trying to fix the situation as we speak, and it doesn't help when we've got a President and 40% of the country that actively supports policies that allows more rape enabling to occur.
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      HellOfHades posted...
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways.

      Where is your evidence of this?


      NYPD are not corrupt leftists.


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      Clutch 5 hours ago#127
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      battourye posted...
      No you goddamn idiot, its more like I'm upset that someone can take a young boy and rape them, and then years later they get find out and the whole ****ig family tells you that they're not to blame.

      Perhaps because the whole f***ing family was also abused. The point is that liberals are feminists are trying to fix the situation now, and conservatives are butting in for purely partisan reasons - when they CONTINUE to elevate their own Rapist-in-Chief.


      BBT tries making an excuse: it misses. 

      BBT tries casting Deflection: not enough mp.
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      young_flip 5 hours ago#128
      Sczoyd posted...
      Jesus Crust that's my f***ing point. And enough with the bulls***. Conservatives pretended to be the party of family values for decades, always pointing at gays, transgenders, the Clintons, Weiner, whatever they could, while invoking God to pretend to be pious.
      Then Trump comes along and you knew what he was, and you voted for him.

      you must mean "you" in the general sense. I don't vote for presidents, its a huge waste of time. either that or you are another example of being hooked on partisanship, i.e. whenever something is pointed out against one side, the complainant must automatically be on the other. I'm independent bro. its amazing being here.

      Who the f*** is Harvey Weinstein to me or any other liberal outside of a few people in Hollywood? He's not a spokesperson, nobody voted for him, but you, knew fully well about Trump and that was okay. So you all can take your moralizing and shove it up your asses.

      its not about Weinstein but those who enabled him, often those very same people preaching on daytime TV about how people need to live and act while excusing the darkness going on in their own lives. I'm not moralizing here, I would never tell you how to think. thats what you have the MSM for.
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      Barenziah Boy Toy 2 hours ago#129
      young_flip posted...
      its not about Weinstein but those who enabled him, often those very same people preaching on daytime TV

      Who? Oh, you mean the Wall Street venture capitalists who own his shares.
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      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways.

      Where is your evidence of this?

      What does Sting have to do with this? I have that loser @HellOfHades on ignore, so can someone tell me what The Police have anything to do with this?
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      HellOfHades 2 hours ago#131
      lol he tags me to tell me he ignored me. I hope he doesn't send me PMs next.
      OffDogs 2 hours ago#132
      HellOfHades posted...
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

      The New York Times exposed this.


      Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways. No Obama and Clinton to stop them. 

      The great NYT buried this back in 2004 and lets rape and assaults continue for 10 more years. Look at the stalwarts of journalism.

      Somehow I doubt Obama and Hillary would have stopped the story coming out... I mean I'm no fan of Hillary and I disagreed with Obama on several issues but I doubt theyd speak to the nypd on how they should not investigate Weinstein.
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      GordonFreeGin 47 minutes ago#133
      OffDogs posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

      The New York Times exposed this.


      Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways. No Obama and Clinton to stop them. 

      The great NYT buried this back in 2004 and lets rape and assaults continue for 10 more years. Look at the stalwarts of journalism.

      Somehow I doubt Obama and Hillary would have stopped the story coming out... I mean I'm no fan of Hillary and I disagreed with Obama on several issues but I doubt theyd speak to the nypd on how they should not investigate Weinstein.

      Let the man child keep crying, offdogs. @HellOfHades is an idiot that thinks Obama and Hillary were president in 2004.
      The party's always better with Gordon FreeGin around.
      HellOfHades 36 minutes ago#134
      OffDogs posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
      HellOfHades posted...
      Its funny how Weinstein went down as soon as the people protecting him went out of power in the government.

      The New York Times exposed this.


      Because they knew NYPD were going to put out the sting recording out anyways. No Obama and Clinton to stop them. 

      The great NYT buried this back in 2004 and lets rape and assaults continue for 10 more years. Look at the stalwarts of journalism.

      Somehow I doubt Obama and Hillary would have stopped the story coming out... I mean I'm no fan of Hillary and I disagreed with Obama on several issues but I doubt theyd speak to the nypd on how they should not investigate Weinstein.


      Maybe. NYPD wouldn't have accepted the audio being suppressed under Obama/Clinton, that's for sure. Who knows if DoJ/FBI (which was extremely corrupt under Obama) would even agree to investigate Weinstein, specially after NY's DA failed to pursue charges citing lack of evidence despite all the f***ing proof in that audio.
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      mrstubix 20 minutes ago#135
      The only thing that I don't understand is why Hollywood represents all liberals. A large proportion of Hollywood are liberals, but Liberals are not made up of Stars. Hollywood and the system that they impose where sexual favors are often expected by sexist older men. Both can exist.
      Brandalia 15 minutes ago#136
      I'm confident in saying that if Weinstein was a card carrying Republican, the first five pages of this board would be filled with 500 post topics accusing conservatives of hating women.

      As an aside, Seth McFarland acknowledged he's known about Weinstein's busy hands for at least six years now, but said nothing. Makes you wonder.
      You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!
      mrstubix 11 minutes ago#137
      Brandalia posted...
      I'm confident in saying that if Weinstein was a card carrying Republican, the first five pages of this board would be filled with 500 post topics accusing conservatives of hating women.

      As an aside, Seth McFarland acknowledged he's known about Weinstein's busy hands for at least six years now, but said nothing. Makes you wonder.

      Are liberals well known for their love of Seth McFarland? Is Seth McFarland a leader in liberal ideology in Hollywood? I just don't see how Seth McFarland being complicit in sexual assault says anything but Seth McFarland being a POS.
      The_Undying_84 34 seconds ago#138
      Brandalia posted...
      I'm confident in saying that if Weinstein was a card carrying Republican, the first five pages of this board would be filled with 500 post topics accusing conservatives of hating women..


      Except Republican sex scandals come out all the time and no one ever blames anyone but the people who actually did some s***.
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      3. It's funny how conservatives are focusing more on liberals than on Weinstein...

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