Leftists try to purge Prof. Scott Yenor for his views about transgenderism

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Callixtus 1 day ago#1 Yenor is a mild-mannered, bald, bespectacled professor of political science at Boise State University, a college known more for its blue football field and run-and-gun offense than for its history of philosophical debate. Yenor’s intellectual credentials are spotless: He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. He’s a teacher and a thinker by trade, fully tenured. But Yenor, you see, is also the devil. At least, that’s the new public perception of Yenor at at Boise State. That’s because Yenor published a report in 2016 with the Heritage Foundation titled, Sex, Gender, and the Origins of the Culture War. The central thesis of the piece was simple and rather uncontroversial in conservative circles: that radical feminism’s central argument decrying gender boundaries between the sexes as entirely socially constructed has led directly to transgenderism’s attacks on gender itself as a social construct. As a philosophical matter, this progression is self-evident.  [H]is contentions were not merely consistent with mainstream conservative thought—they were self-evident to those human beings with eyes and the capacity to read. (Ontario, to take just one example, has recently passed a bill that could plausibly be read to identify parental dissent from small children seeking transgender treatment as “child abuse.”) Yenor’s rather uncontroversial article was then posted at the Boise State Facebook page. That’s when the trouble began. Leftist students took note of Yenor’s perspective. And they seethed. Actually, they did more than seethe: they complained, they demanded that the piece be taken down, and they insisted that Yenor had personally insulted them. All of this prompted the pusillanimous dean of the school, Corey Cook, to half-heartedly defend Yenor’s right to publish. But then Cook backtracked faster than Bobby Hull defending a breakaway, saying: It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

sylverlolol 1 day ago#2 ...no link and you left out part of the story. This also reads like it has no bias whatsoever. Indeed. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#3 Our core values as a School include the statement that “collegiality, caring, tolerance, civility and respect of faculty, staff, students and our external partners are ways of embracing diverse backgrounds, traditions, ideas and experiences.”The particular language employed in the piece is inconsistent with that value. Cook didn’t say exactly why Yenor’s writings had violated this inconsistently-enforced value. In fact, Cook’s attacks on Yenor violated this value far more significantly than Yenor’s original writing. [Other] leftist faculty members thought Cook didn’t go far enough—even though he had pledged to “begin reevaluating our approach to social media.” And so a knight arose to challenge Yenor’s nefarious, patriarchal dragon: Francisco Salinas, a man with the Orwellian title “Director of Student Diversity and Inclusion.” Salinas believes that diversity and inclusion do not include perspectives disapproved by Francisco Salinas. Thus, he took up his fiery pen and wrote a post on the school’s website dramatically titled “Connecting The Dots.” Salinas explained that the Yenor controversy had preceded white supremacist rally and murder in Charlottesville, Virginia by a day. This was not, Salinas concluded, a coincidence. “Their proximity in my attention,” Salinas wrote, “is no accident.” How so? Let’s let Salinas sally forth: There is a direct line between these fear fueled conspiratorial theories and the resurrection of a violent ideology which sees the “other” as a direct threat to existence and therefore necessary to obliterate. It is not an absolute succession and it is not a line without potential breaks or interruptions. Not every person who agrees with Yenor’s piece is likely to become an espoused Neo-Nazi, but likely every Neo-Nazi would agree with the substance of Yenor’s piece. And so Yenor went from mainstream conservative thinker to neo-Nazi in the blink of an eye. Not just in the mind of Salinas, mind you—but in the minds of Yenor’s fellow professors and members of the student body, too. A flyer suddenly began appearing around campus, reading “YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS SCOTT YENOR.” The faculty senate took up a measure that would initiate an investigation claiming that Yenor was guilty of some ethereal “misconduct.” Here’s what faculty senator Professor Royce Hutson wrote: A large majority of the senators feel that the piece espouses deeply homophobic, trans-phobic,and misogynistic ideas. Additionally, some feel that the piece may be academically dubious to the point of misconduct. In response, the senate has created an ad hoc committee to draft a statement that repudiates the ideals expressed by Professor Yenor, without explicitly censuring Dr. Yenor, and reiterates the Senate's endorsement of the BSU's shared values as it relates to his piece. Yenor was forced to hire an attorney. His fellow professors cast him out like a leper. If this reads more like a tragicomic Kafka novel than an honest discourse about ideas at one of our nation’s institutions of higher learning, that’s because it is. Except that it’s real: Yenor wanders the halls of an institution to which he has dedicated his life, condemned for a crime nobody will specify. Unfortunately, Yenor’s experiences aren’t rare. Professors are now routinely hauled up before courts of inquisition in true revolutionary fashion for offenses contrived post facto for the sole purpose of ensnaring anyone who dissents from the current leftist orthodoxy. As he explains, “The process of getting a Ph.D. either makes conservatives into ‘careerists’—which means that they have to toe the line on sacred cows of the left—or conservatives at the undergraduate level see what academia would be for a career and decline to join.” So the self-perpetuating caste grows ever stronger. And louder. Anti-intellectual bullies like Francisco Salinas—enforcers of the revolution—exist on nearly every campus. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#4 http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-purge-scott-yenor-and-the-witch-hunt-at-boise-state/article/2010104 It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#5 sylverlolol posted... ...no link and you left out part of the story. This also reads like it has no bias whatsoever. Indeed. Shut the fuck up. It has all been posted now. Are you obtuse? Get the fuck out of my topic. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

sylverlolol 1 day ago#6 Callixtus posted... sylverlolol posted... ...no link and you left out part of the story. This also reads like it has no bias whatsoever. Indeed. Shut the fuck up. It has all been posted now. Are you obtuse? Get the fuck out of my topic. on a scale of 0 to triggered, how tickled is your booty right now This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. reportquote

Lorenzo_2003 1 day ago#7 Must be fake news. SJW outrage does not exist because SJW's do not exist. I know that's true because SJW's keep telling me so. ... reportquote

Bloodychess 1 day ago#8 Strong words to end the article, sad to see "higher education" devolving like this Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? reportquote

COVxy 1 day ago#9 What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

ThyCorndog 1 day ago#10 poor senor yenor Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#11 checks off "doesn't like trans people" Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

untrustful 1 day ago#12 Callixtus posted... Yenor is a mild-mannered man who uses his fetish to make thesis papers. My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#13 COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Nice way to address the merits of the article. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Bloodychess 1 day ago#14 COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Thats the standard for journalism at the moment Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? reportquote

COVxy 1 day ago#15 Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Nice way to address the merits of the article. Dude wrote an opinion piece in a nonacademic journal on a subject that almost certainly isn't his expertise and used his academic title to provide credence to it. He then got a bit of flack for it. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#16 COVxy posted... Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Nice way to address the merits of the article. Dude wrote an opinion piece in a nonacademic journal on a subject that almost certainly isn't his expertise and used his academic title to provide credence to it. He then got a bit of flack for it. I forgot you're in favor of academic witch hunts. No point engaging your anti-intellectualism. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

COVxy 1 day ago#17 But it's exactly not academic. This was not something published in an academic sense. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

Bio1590 1 day ago#18 Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Nice way to address the merits of the article. Dude wrote an opinion piece in a nonacademic journal on a subject that almost certainly isn't his expertise and used his academic title to provide credence to it. He then got a bit of flack for it. I forgot you're in favor of academic witch hunts. No point engaging your anti-intellectualism. lol the sheer hilarity of you: A) Saying COVxy is in favour of academic witch hunts B) trying to call someone else out for anti-intellectualism http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#19 Bio1590 posted... Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... Callixtus posted... COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Nice way to address the merits of the article. Dude wrote an opinion piece in a nonacademic journal on a subject that almost certainly isn't his expertise and used his academic title to provide credence to it. He then got a bit of flack for it. I forgot you're in favor of academic witch hunts. No point engaging your anti-intellectualism. lol the sheer hilarity of you: A) Saying COVxy is in favour of academic witch hunts B) trying to call someone else out for anti-intellectualism He has literally never even slightly criticized the leftists in any topic like this where a conservative academic has been victiminzed for having conservative beliefs. I know. I've posted several such topics myself and he's responded in them. You also seem to be suggesting I'm anti-intellectual myself. Proof of anything like that? It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

COVxy 1 day ago#20 The grand majority of these topics are melodramatic clickbait. Really not my fault. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

shockthemonkey 1 day ago#21 If a dude is writing a nonacedemic opinion piece outside of his field, it’s not anti-intellectual to wonder why a university is publishing it. Universities shouldn’t be publishing anti-intellectual horseshit if they don’t want flack for it. Support local music. But not if it sucks. reportquote

prince_leo 1 day ago#22 I mean, the heritage foundation is a piece of shit so anyone who works with them is probably a hack https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html reportquote

Dragonblade01 1 day ago#23 A thing happened. We should be mad. PSN: kazukifafner reportquote

Asherlee10 1 day ago#24 Nice flopic. COVxy called out that nonsense rather quickly. "Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it." reportquote

refmon 1 day ago#25 Lorenzo_2003 posted... Must be fake news. SJW outrage does not exist because SJW's do not exist. I know that's true because SJW's keep telling me so. If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! reportquote

KazumaKiryu 1 day ago#26 I think what people really need to understand is that these SJWs, Antifa, whatever you want to call this group, are fascists. They have their views and they think everyone else should share those views. If you do something showing that you're not with their cause, they'll stop at nothing to ruin your life and make an example out of you. It's not that they're offended. They're not special snowflakes who get their feelings hurt. They are terrorists who know exactly what they're doing. They think violence is the answer. reportquote

ImTheMacheteGuy 1 day ago#27 COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. Did the references to what I assume were football players at that college give it away? :P Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ reportquote

VipaGTS  make friends1 day ago#28 TC sure is triggered. "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." reportquote

E32005 1 day ago#29 COVxy posted... What a melodramatic article. Surely in no way is it an attempt to pull your strings and generate outrage. http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif reportquote

ImTheMacheteGuy 1 day ago#30 VipaGTS posted... TC sure is triggered. Yeah seriously. "ENTIRE ARTICLE POSTED NOW DON'T BE OBTUSE GET THE FUCK OUT" so angry and sassy Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ reportquote

TomNook20 1 day ago#31 shockthemonkey posted... If a dude is writing a nonacedemic opinion piece outside of his field, it’s not anti-intellectual to wonder why a university is publishing it. Universities shouldn’t be publishing anti-intellectual horseshit if they don’t want flack for it. True, I don't see why the college's website or fb page should have the prof's article or that other 'diversity" dude's response. Keep it professional, if they want to post their opinions on their personal fb pages, that's their choice. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#32 Can't wait to see the new fangled deflections you guys come up with the next time this happens. Won't be long. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#33 It's rather disturbing that all the leftist posters see absolutely nothing wrong with this.  I mean, this is rather telling of the direction that academia has gone: "And so Yenor went from mainstream conservative thinker to neo-Nazi in the blink of an eye." Won't be long until these same CEmen defend punching that professor because he's now supposedly a neo-Nazi. reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#34 don't spread misinformation, don't get called out for being shitty. doesn't seem that hard of a concept to me. look at the source, and keep in mind the spin they're putting on. Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#35 Medussa posted... don't spread misinformation, don't get called out for being shitty. doesn't seem that hard of a concept to me. look at the source, and keep in mind the spin they're putting on. There was no misinformation. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

hockeybub89 1 day ago#36 FLUFFYGERM posted... It's rather disturbing that all the leftist posters see absolutely nothing wrong with this.  I mean, this is rather telling of the direction that academia has gone: "And so Yenor went from mainstream conservative thinker to neo-Nazi in the blink of an eye." Won't be long until these same CEmen defend punching that professor because he's now supposedly a neo-Nazi. That all seems a bit melodramatic. Maybe you're the article author. http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#37 Callixtus posted... There was no misinformation. Callixtus posted... has led directly to transgenderism’s attacks on gender itself as a social construct *cough* Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#38 Medussa posted... don't spread misinformation, don't get called out for being shitty. doesn't seem that hard of a concept to me. look at the source, and keep in mind the spin they're putting on. http://www.heritage.org/gender/report/sex-gender-and-the-origin-the-culture-wars-intellectual-history That's what the professor wrote. I haven't read all of it but if you can point out the parts you thought were misinformation I'd take another look. reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#39 Medussa posted... Callixtus posted... There was no misinformation. Callixtus posted... has led directly to transgenderism’s attacks on gender itself as a social construct *cough* So his thesis that he argues for in his paper is misinformation? It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#40 why should I bother? we all know nobody is going to change their beliefs on the subject. It's a lot of work for absolutely no reward Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#41 Medussa posted... why should I bother? we all know nobody is going to change their beliefs on the subject. It's a lot of work for absolutely no reward So you completely misread the OP, I'm assuming. Lmao get the fuck outta my topic. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#42 and TC is notorious for deflections and attacks like that, so even if I do the work, he's just going to lolnope. less than pointless Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#43 Medussa posted... why should I bother? we all know nobody is going to change their beliefs on the subject. It's a lot of work for absolutely no reward Why bother to post at all, then? reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#44 Medussa posted... and TC is notorious for deflections and attacks like that, so even if I do the work, he's just going to lolnope. less than pointless Why are you still even here? Are you going to make an actual point besides misreading the OP at least? It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

Medussa 1 day ago#45 FLUFFYGERM posted... Medussa posted... why should I bother? we all know nobody is going to change their beliefs on the subject. It's a lot of work for absolutely no reward Why bother to post at all, then? I'm asking myself the same question, honestly. I'm a firm believer that bullshit needs to be constantly challenged, but I've been finding myself less and less willing to do the work as time moves on. Hasn't stopped the instinct, though. Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

Newhopes 1 day ago#46 Thats the SJW hive mind for you.... reportquote

TheBiggerWiggle 1 day ago#47 Damn TC is getting fucking embarrassed lmao. I guess this is some low effort troll I can put on ignore. I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. reportquote

Anteaterking 1 day ago#48 Callixtus posted... He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=207371 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#49 Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=207371 Seems like he's a generally respected professor. 86% would retake his class. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#50 Medussa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Medussa posted... why should I bother? we all know nobody is going to change their beliefs on the subject. It's a lot of work for absolutely no reward Why bother to post at all, then? I'm asking myself the same question, honestly. I'm a firm believer that bullshit needs to be constantly challenged, but I've been finding myself less and less willing to do the work as time moves on. Hasn't stopped the instinct, though. You aren't challenging anything though. You're just asserting that it's bullshit. reportquote

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   Medussa 1 day ago#51 FLUFFYGERM posted... You aren't challenging anything though. You're just asserting that it's bullshit. I know. and I did honestly start to dissect his piece when you asked me to. after about 3 minutes I was bored and sad. I'm agreeing with you, I'm not doing anything here other than taking pot-shots at a shitposter. Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! reportquote

   FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#52 Medussa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You aren't challenging anything though. You're just asserting that it's bullshit. I know. and I did honestly start to dissect his piece when you asked me to. after about 3 minutes I was bored and sad. I'm agreeing with you, I'm not doing anything here other than taking pot-shots at a shitposter. Well at least you admit it. Oh well, what a shame. reportquote

   Anteaterking 1 day ago#53 Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=207371 Seems like he's a generally respected professor. 86% would retake his class. Read the negative reviews. This is certainly someone who has received complaints from students. That doesn't mean those complains have merit. I have peers who have received complaints from students which ended up not going anywhere. I still think it's inaccurate to portray the professor as someone strolling through life without conflict until some ESS JAY DOUBLEYEW stumbled upon a paper of his. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

   CookieMarvin 1 day ago#54 saying that he’s respected and well-liked as a defense to his transphobia is some of the most lazy and pathetic shit I’ve ever heard.  How can this obviously terrible thing he’s done be bad? 86% of his past students enjoyed his class!!! http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png reportquote

   prince_leo 1 day ago#55 I think the point of the link was to show that there had been complaints, when someone said that he had never received any https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#56 CookieMarvin posted... saying that he’s respected and well-liked as a defense to his transphobia is some of the most lazy and pathetic shit I’ve ever heard.  How can this obviously terrible thing he’s done be bad? 86% of his past students enjoyed his class!!! The comment is specifically about his classwork, not his views on transgenderism. Not supporting transgenderism doesn't make you a transphobe. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   CookieMarvin 1 day ago#57 It actually does? http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#58 Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=207371 Seems like he's a generally respected professor. 86% would retake his class. Read the negative reviews. This is certainly someone who has received complaints from students. That doesn't mean those complains have merit. I have peers who have received complaints from students which ended up not going anywhere. I still think it's inaccurate to portray the professor as someone strolling through life without conflict until some ESS JAY DOUBLEYEW stumbled upon a paper of his. I mean it's probably a little bit of an exaggeration. But ratemyprofessor is an anonymous rating website. I don't think that even qualifies as a complaint. It wasn't brought up with the administration. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#59 CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes, feelings or actions toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality. Transphobia can be emotional disgust, fear, violence, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations" --Wikipedia That doesn't seem to line up with not supporting transgenderism. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#60 CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? We should throw him in prison for child abuse, since his position of power enabled him to abuse those children he was teaching. Maximum security for good measure since he's a neo-Nazi. reportquote

   CookieMarvin 1 day ago#61 Callixtus posted... CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes, feelings or actions toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality. Transphobia can be emotional disgust, fear, violence, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations" --Wikipedia That doesn't seem to line up with not supporting transgenderism. If not fear, disgust, violence, anger, or discomfort, what could be leading this man to anti-trans stances? you think it’s apathy, love, or respect for trans people that pushed him to try to further stigmatize them? Trans people are murdered every day just for being trans, but please, keep up this cutesy act like your disdain for them is totally harmless. http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

   FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#62 CookieMarvin posted... Callixtus posted... CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes, feelings or actions toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality. Transphobia can be emotional disgust, fear, violence, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations" --Wikipedia That doesn't seem to line up with not supporting transgenderism. If not fear, disgust, violence, anger, or discomfort, what could be leading this man to anti-trans stances? you think it’s apathy, Love, or respect for trans people that pushed him to try to further stigmatize them? Trans people are murdered every day just for being trans, but please, keep up this cutesy act like your disdain for them is totally harmless. Maybe he disagrees with the philosophy underlying the movement, and thinks the outcomes and effects on society will be negative. I mean, he talks about it in his piece. I linked it earlier in this topicc. reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#63 CookieMarvin posted... Callixtus posted... CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? "Transphobia is a range of negative attitudes, feelings or actions toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality. Transphobia can be emotional disgust, fear, violence, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations" --Wikipedia That doesn't seem to line up with not supporting transgenderism. If not fear, disgust, violence, anger, or discomfort, what could be leading this man to anti-trans stances? you think it’s apathy, love, or respect for trans people that pushed him to try to further stigmatize them? Trans people are murdered every day just for being trans, but please, keep up this cutesy act like your disdain for them is totally harmless. Maybe he thinks it's a mental illness like lots of people do? It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   CookieMarvin 1 day ago#64 that 👏 is 👏 not 👏 an 👏 acceptable 👏 answer 👏 http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png reportquote

   FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#65 CookieMarvin posted... that 👏 is 👏 not 👏 an 👏 acceptable 👏 answer 👏 Why not? Is anything that be conceived by the left necessarily correct and unquestionable? reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#66 FLUFFYGERM posted... CookieMarvin posted... that 👏 is 👏 not 👏 an 👏 acceptable 👏 answer 👏 Why not? Is anything that be conceived by the left necessarily correct and unquestionable? Obviously so. I'm hoping this guy is trolling. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   ImTheMacheteGuy 1 day ago#67 FLUFFYGERM posted... CookieMarvin posted... It actually does? We should throw him in prison for child abuse, since his position of power enabled him to abuse those children he was teaching. Maximum security for good measure since he's a neo-Nazi. Which children was he teaching? Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ reportquote

   CookieMarvin 1 day ago#68 I can’t reasonably explain my hatred for normal human beings, and that person won’t just agree to disagree, so they must be trolling.  I’m glad you guys have really thought out your transphobia and totally aren’t just regurgitating what you hear from people on the internet. http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png reportquote

   FLUFFYGERM 1 day ago#69 CookieMarvin posted... I can’t reasonably explain my hatred for normal human beings, and that person won’t just agree to disagree, so they must be trolling.  I’m glad you guys have really thought out your transphobia and totally aren’t just regurgitating what you hear from people on the internet. I'm glad you are capable of having a deep discussion about philosophy and cultural shifts, and that you aren't just relying on your mastery of throwing around the word transphobia. reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)1 day ago#70 CookieMarvin posted... I can’t reasonably explain my hatred for normal human beings, and that person won’t just agree to disagree, so they must be trolling.  I’m glad you guys have really thought out your transphobia and totally aren’t just regurgitating what you hear from people on the internet. 1) I don't hate transpeople 2) No one ever asked me for to explain my thoughts on transgenderism 3) You fail yet again It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   CookieMarvin 23 hours ago#71 FLUFFYGERM posted... CookieMarvin posted... I can’t reasonably explain my hatred for normal human beings, and that person won’t just agree to disagree, so they must be trolling.  I’m glad you guys have really thought out your transphobia and totally aren’t just regurgitating what you hear from people on the internet. I'm glad you are capable of having a deep discussion about philosophy and cultural shifts, and that you aren't just relying on your mastery of throwing around the word transphobia. Oh, yeah, you were really concerned about having a deep discussion when you jokingly suggested that we put him in a maximum security prison a few posts ago. Have you decided to take this conversation seriously now, or were you just saying that because it’s a super easy response to give when you wanna look like an Intellectual™ also, I’m good at throwing out “transphobia” because it’s remarkably easy to spot. crazy how that works. http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png (edited 23 hours ago)reportquote

   butthole666  self proclaimed mentally ill23 hours ago#72 Good, fuck him. Callixtus posted... sylverlolol posted... ...no link and you left out part of the story. This also reads like it has no bias whatsoever. Indeed. Shut the fuck up. It has all been posted now. Are you obtuse? Get the fuck out of my topic. Not really how ya use "obtuse", kiddo. "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)23 hours ago#73 CookieMarvin posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... CookieMarvin posted... I can’t reasonably explain my hatred for normal human beings, and that person won’t just agree to disagree, so they must be trolling.  I’m glad you guys have really thought out your transphobia and totally aren’t just regurgitating what you hear from people on the internet. I'm glad you are capable of having a deep discussion about philosophy and cultural shifts, and that you aren't just relying on your mastery of throwing around the word transphobia. Oh, yeah, you were really concerned about having a deep discussion when you jokingly suggested that we put him in a maximum security prison a few posts ago. Have you decided to take this conversation seriously now, or were you just saying that because it’s a super easy response to give when you wanna look like an Intellectual™ also, I’m good at throwing out “transphobia” because it’s remarkably easy to spot. crazy how that works. Maybe you're good at throwing it out because you lack argumentative skills and it's easier to just call your opponents names. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   CookieMarvin 23 hours ago#74 it’s funny how afraid people are of being labeled in the hate groups they’re part of.  “I’m not a terf, I’m just a feminist who doesn’t like trans people.”  “I’m not a white supremacist, I just think that white people should remain the dominant demographic in America.”  “I’m not a Nazi, I’m just saying that we can’t be sure that the Germans killed 6 million Jews” http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png reportquote

   Anteaterking 23 hours ago#75 Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=207371 Seems like he's a generally respected professor. 86% would retake his class. Read the negative reviews. This is certainly someone who has received complaints from students. That doesn't mean those complains have merit. I have peers who have received complaints from students which ended up not going anywhere. I still think it's inaccurate to portray the professor as someone strolling through life without conflict until some ESS JAY DOUBLEYEW stumbled upon a paper of his. I mean it's probably a little bit of an exaggeration. But ratemyprofessor is an anonymous rating website. I don't think that even qualifies as a complaint. It wasn't brought up with the administration. I'm saying that people with ratemyprofessors pages like that get departmental complaints. Again, not necessarily valid ones. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)22 hours ago#76 CookieMarvin posted... it’s funny how afraid people are of being labeled in the hate groups they’re part of.  “I’m not a terf, I’m just a feminist who doesn’t like trans people.”  “I’m not a white supremacist, I just think that white people should remain the dominant demographic in America.”  “I’m not a Nazi, I’m just saying that we can’t be sure that the Germans killed 6 million Jews” Didn't know I was a member of a hate group. When did I sign up? It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   somethingtofear 21 hours ago#77 Holy shit, that was a long read. I can't help but feel a sense of almost desperation coming from the author of the Connecting the Dots article. The piece featured in the Daily Signal is a condensed excerpt from his much larger article found on the Heritage Foundation site. The larger article is very well sourced and a lot of thought was put into it. There is not a single point in either article that makes a reference to white supremacy, confederacy, fascism, Nazi or Neo-Nazism. Both the Connecting the Dots article, as well as another article featured in the Odyssey make a desperate leap to associate this article with what went down in Charlottesville. An internet search of Scott Yenor will quickly yield a petition on change.org to have him terminated because "he promotes an ideology of violence". They make it painfully obvious how this is a smear campaign against him. The author of Connecting the Dots makes a remark that "(Scott Yenor's) piece is easy enough to dismiss on logical grounds", yet makes no attempt to refute any of the contents of his article. In fact, most of the outrage I'm finding on this is just that the article actually exists without any mention of the actual source material. The fact that this article came into existence in the same century that Charlottesville happened is letting them draw on the power of feelings to incite anger against the professor when the two things are completely unrelated. I AM society, you fool! PSN: I_am_Spaghetti (edited 21 hours ago)reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)19 hours ago#78 somethingtofear posted... The author of Connecting the Dots makes a remark that "(Scott Yenor's) piece is easy enough to dismiss on logical grounds", yet makes no attempt to refute any of the contents of his article. And this is the key issue. It would be one thing if they attempted to combat his arguments with both rage and reasoning, but they rarely do. This is the same exact thing that happened to the Penn law professor who was denounced by 33 of her fellow faculty members, none of whom attempted to challenge her views with arguments (except for one sole professor who did so after the backlash against their summary rejection of her views). They merely condemned her.  It's the definition of anti-intellectualism. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus (edited 19 hours ago)reportquote

   Cherrys2000 19 hours ago#79 Baizuos only care about getting laid and feeling like action heroes fighting the Nazis. Which helps them get laid. You want to learn something, you won't find it at a college. reportquote

   shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#80 I thought I’d heard it all but here I am reading real people saying that writing an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization isn’t transphobic. The same people who argue that words have meaning if you call a white supremacist with Nazi sympathies a Neo-Nazi.  What the fuck is wrong with you people? Support local music. But not if it sucks. reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)17 hours ago#81 shockthemonkey posted... I thought I’d heard it all but here I am reading real people saying that writing an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization isn’t transphobic. The same people who argue that words have meaning if you call a white supremacist with Nazi sympathies a Neo-Nazi.  What the fuck is wrong with you people? You people weaken the force of your use of the word "phobia" everyday. It essentially boils down to, you agree with me or you are an x-phobe. No one is arguing for discrimination, violence, or hatred of transpeople. Yet, disagreeing with their perception of reality or those of their supporters makes you a transphobe. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   COVxy 17 hours ago#82 This is strikingly similar to the "gays have the same right to marriage as anyone else, the opposite sex, therefore no discrimination." Nonacceptance is discrimination. Quite simple. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

   Funbazooka 17 hours ago#83 Attaching -phobic or-phobia to a term is just a derogatory label for those who dare disagree. It doesn't inform or explain anything. reportquote

   Cherrys2000 17 hours ago#84 I swear, the extreme left never fails to fight for the most worthless causes and then trot them out like the new civil rights movement. Stop. reportquote

   The Admiral 17 hours ago#85 COVxy posted... Nonacceptance is discrimination. Quite simple. Another liberal rewriting definitions to justify an emotional worldview. Not the first time "academics" in the joke fields have attempted to do this. - The Admiral reportquote

   byron 17 hours ago#86 sylverlolol posted... Callixtus posted... sylverlolol posted... ...no link and you left out part of the story. This also reads like it has no bias whatsoever. Indeed. Shut the fuck up. It has all been posted now. Are you obtuse? Get the fuck out of my topic. on a scale of 0 to triggered, how tickled is your booty right now pretty sweet reportquote

   shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#87 Callixtus posted... shockthemonkey posted... I thought I’d heard it all but here I am reading real people saying that writing an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization isn’t transphobic. The same people who argue that words have meaning if you call a white supremacist with Nazi sympathies a Neo-Nazi.  What the fuck is wrong with you people? You people weaken the force of your use of the word "phobia" everyday. It essentially boils down to, you agree with me or you are an x-phobe. No one is arguing for discrimination, violence, or hatred of transpeople. Yet, disagreeing with their perception of reality or those of their supporters makes you a transphobe. So he didn’t write an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization or do you have no actual argument? Support local music. But not if it sucks. reportquote

   Cherrys2000 17 hours ago#88 shockthemonkey posted... Callixtus posted... shockthemonkey posted... I thought I’d heard it all but here I am reading real people saying that writing an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization isn’t transphobic. The same people who argue that words have meaning if you call a white supremacist with Nazi sympathies a Neo-Nazi.  What the fuck is wrong with you people? You people weaken the force of your use of the word "phobia" everyday. It essentially boils down to, you agree with me or you are an x-phobe. No one is arguing for discrimination, violence, or hatred of transpeople. Yet, disagreeing with their perception of reality or those of their supporters makes you a transphobe. So he didn’t write an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization or do you have no actual argument? No, no he didn't. He wrote a paper observing the push by a society of psychopaths to allow children to usurp their parents' rights to make life-changing medical, social, and sexual decisions on behalf of them, and the move away from instilling family values to instilling values of "sexual liberation" in our children. Hell, he didn't even tap into the glaring parallels between those policies and NAMBLA's proposed policies. (edited 17 hours ago)reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)17 hours ago#89 shockthemonkey posted... Callixtus posted... shockthemonkey posted... I thought I’d heard it all but here I am reading real people saying that writing an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization isn’t transphobic. The same people who argue that words have meaning if you call a white supremacist with Nazi sympathies a Neo-Nazi.  What the fuck is wrong with you people? You people weaken the force of your use of the word "phobia" everyday. It essentially boils down to, you agree with me or you are an x-phobe. No one is arguing for discrimination, violence, or hatred of transpeople. Yet, disagreeing with their perception of reality or those of their supporters makes you a transphobe. So he didn’t write an anti-trans paper for an anti-trans organization or do you have no actual argument? Apparently he did write an anti-trans paper because everything is anti-trans which doesn't tow the party line of the progressive left on gender. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   cjsdowg 17 hours ago#90 Callixtus posted... Nice way to address the merits of the article. When you use quotes like this .. H]is contentions were not merely consistent with mainstream conservative thought—they were self-evident to those human beings with eyes and the capacity to read. The merits fall off pretty fast. It is clear that this writer is bias. Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? reportquote

   COVxy 17 hours ago#91 The Admiral posted... Not the first time "academics" in the joke fields have attempted to do this. Lmao, funny how this is supposed to be a personal jab at my work, yet you have no idea what that really is. =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)17 hours ago#92 cjsdowg posted... Callixtus posted... Nice way to address the merits of the article. When you use quotes like this .. H]is contentions were not merely consistent with mainstream conservative thought—they were self-evident to those human beings with eyes and the capacity to read. The merits fall off pretty fast. It is clear that this writer is bias. Bias has nothing to do with the merits of the article. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   MLGSerperior111 16 hours ago#93 Callixtus posted... Bias has nothing to do with the merits of the article. Stay positive :]]] FC: 0233-0297-6306 IGN: Lucas reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)16 hours ago#94 MLGSerperior111 posted... Callixtus posted... Bias has nothing to do with the merits of the article. I don't know why this is hard to understand. Saying someone is biased is not a substantive criticism of their ideas. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus (edited 16 hours ago)reportquote

   ManicPlumber77 15 hours ago#95 Callixtus posted... MLGSerperior111 posted... Callixtus posted... Bias has nothing to do with the merits of the article. I don't know why this is hard to understand. Saying someone is biased is not a substantive criticism of their ideas. Except it is? Because it devalues the content of the article when it's biased heavily to one side by lacking proper presentation of the other side of the argument? Which, when pointed out, takes weight away from the biased party's arguments?  I don't know why this is hard to understand. Steam wishlist: http://steamcommunity.com/id/imonurside/wishlist/ reportquote

   Dragonblade01 15 hours ago#96 In all fairness, it is fallacious to say something along the lines of "these ideas are wrong because they are biased." PSN: kazukifafner reportquote

   Callixtus (Topic Creator)15 hours ago#97 There is also a huge difference between misrepresentation and bias. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

   PutUpYourDukes 15 hours ago#98 COVxy posted... This is strikingly similar to the "gays have the same right to marriage as anyone else, the opposite sex, therefore no discrimination." Nonacceptance is discrimination. Quite simple. So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? reportquote

   masticatingman 15 hours ago#99 Academic debates about transgenderism are beside the point when they aren't going anywhere anyway. Matter is error. Whoa. reportquote

   Anteaterking 14 hours ago#100 PutUpYourDukes posted... So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? If someone's religion said that white people were created to be above black people would they be discriminating if they believed that? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

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      Callixtus (Topic Creator)13 hours ago#101 Anteaterking posted... PutUpYourDukes posted... So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? If someone's religion said that white people were created to be above black people would they be discriminating if they believed that? One of the by-products of the civil rights era was tarnishing the word discrimination. Discrimination, just means perceiving boundaries between things. In and of itself it is absolutely a neutral concept. Of course it can be turned to negative ends, like discriminating between people on the basis of their race. But this is because race is a construct and in reality there is no difference between white men or black men except the color of their skin.  There are actually differences between male and female however, and discriminating between them, in the strictest sense of the word, does make sense. This distinction is what the progressive gender brigade wants to gloss over. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

      Anteaterking 13 hours ago#102 Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... PutUpYourDukes posted... So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? If someone's religion said that white people were created to be above black people would they be discriminating if they believed that? One of the by-products of the civil rights era was tarnishing the word discrimination. Discrimination, just means perceiving boundaries between things. In and of itself it is absolutely a neutral concept. Of course it can be turned to negative ends, like discriminating between people on the basis of their race. But this is because race is a construct and in reality there is no difference between white men or black men except the color of their skin.  There are actually differences between male and female however, and discriminating between them, in the strictest sense of the word, does make sense. This distinction is what the progressive gender brigade wants to gloss over. My point is that it being part of your religion doesn't stop something from being discrimination. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

      Callixtus (Topic Creator)13 hours ago#103 Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... PutUpYourDukes posted... So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? If someone's religion said that white people were created to be above black people would they be discriminating if they believed that? One of the by-products of the civil rights era was tarnishing the word discrimination. Discrimination, just means perceiving boundaries between things. In and of itself it is absolutely a neutral concept. Of course it can be turned to negative ends, like discriminating between people on the basis of their race. But this is because race is a construct and in reality there is no difference between white men or black men except the color of their skin.  There are actually differences between male and female however, and discriminating between them, in the strictest sense of the word, does make sense. This distinction is what the progressive gender brigade wants to gloss over. My point is that it being part of your religion doesn't stop something from being discrimination. My point is that there is a fundamental distinction between discriminating on the basis of race and treating someone as their birth sex, so the analogy is not on point. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

      COVxy 7 hours ago#104 Callixtus posted... There are actually differences between male and female however, and discriminating between them, in the strictest sense of the word, does make sense. This distinction is what the progressive gender brigade wants to gloss over. Would it surprise you to know that many of those most staunchly arguing for transgender acceptance are those that also believe heavily in biological sex differences? =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] reportquote

      MakoReizei 7 hours ago#105 That's ridiculous. SJWs are out of control. http://i.imgur.com/mgCjlbV.jpg reportquote

      shockthemonkey 2 hours ago#106 So if writing an anti-trans paper doesn’t make you transphobic, is it transphobic to want discrimination against them? Or is that just more bullshit civil rights stuff that TC disagrees with? Support local music. But not if it sucks. reportquote

      Anteaterking 1 hour ago#107 Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... Callixtus posted... Anteaterking posted... PutUpYourDukes posted... So if someone's religion says Jesus or Allah created people to be men and women and they believe that, they're discriminating against transgender people? If someone's religion said that white people were created to be above black people would they be discriminating if they believed that? One of the by-products of the civil rights era was tarnishing the word discrimination. Discrimination, just means perceiving boundaries between things. In and of itself it is absolutely a neutral concept. Of course it can be turned to negative ends, like discriminating between people on the basis of their race. But this is because race is a construct and in reality there is no difference between white men or black men except the color of their skin.  There are actually differences between male and female however, and discriminating between them, in the strictest sense of the word, does make sense. This distinction is what the progressive gender brigade wants to gloss over. My point is that it being part of your religion doesn't stop something from being discrimination. My point is that there is a fundamental distinction between discriminating on the basis of race and treating someone as their birth sex, so the analogy is not on point. Your concerns about the validity of the analogy are irrelevant to the point that using religion as the source of your discrimination doesn't stop it from being discrimination. If I had said "Racism is evil, therefore discrimination against transgenders is evil", then you could try to object to the comparison. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg reportquote

      Callixtus (Topic Creator)48 minutes ago#108 shockthemonkey posted... So if writing an anti-trans paper doesn’t make you transphobic, is it transphobic to want discrimination against them? Or is that just more bullshit civil rights stuff that TC disagrees with? Anti-trans is just rhetoric. Disagreeing with the LGBT viewpoint on transgenderism isn't anti-trans. I don't disagree with civil rights. Nice strawman. And yes arguing for legal discrimination against transpeople because they are trans should be illicit discrimination. As a mental illness, it should more like a disability, and therefore protected by the ADA. It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus reportquote

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