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Why would they do this. This is stupid.
Not everyone in Antifa was violent, so now we run into the risk of prosecuting non-violent individuals for being part of Antifa. So stupid. There's also the fact that anyone who wants to do something and not get arrested will just say they're part of another group, just change the name. Be part of Blac Bloc or something. So stupid. |
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Meanwhile didn't Trump decide white nationalist groups didn't need to be watched?
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It was horrible when Antifa ran over that woman in Charlottesville.
Oh, no, wait... that was a Neo-Nazi.
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Free speech for everyone. Leave your clubs and pepper spray at home.
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DreadedWave posted...
Meanwhile didn't Trump decide white nationalist groups didn't need to be watched? Yeah, after some f***er actually RAN OVER PEOPLE. Omg, Antifa punches people. SOOO horrible. But running people over, that's ok. Trump, you're stupid. With that said, a big difference here is that most of Antifa condones the violence. Whereas most White Nationalists (including Richard Spencer himself) said that running people over with cars was not good and completely denounced it. So that MIGHT be a reason why, I guess. |
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Prodrivertn posted...
Free speech for everyone. Leave your clubs and pepper spray at home. Maybe when the Nazis start leaving their literal guns at home we can have that discussion.
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kenio8185 posted...
Calling them Vegan Isis is just as dumb as them calling the "Alt-Right" and "White Nationalists" Nazis. I could of sworn that alt-righters and white nationalists were waving Nazi flags in Virgina a few weeks ago. |
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i dont mind an extremist group like Antifa labeled as terrorist until they ceased the violent activities, but:
DreadedWave posted... Meanwhile didn't Trump decide white nationalist groups didn't need to be watched? this, wtf?
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kenio8185 posted...
Whereas most White Nationalists (including Richard Spencer himself) said that running people over with cars was not good and completely denounced it. Well yeah, because they're not going to publicly support it. |
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Ricemills posted...
i dont mind an extremist group like Antifa labeled as terrorist until they ceased the violent activities, but: It's especially ridiculous because groups like the KKK are far more organized than Antifa. |
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YourDrunkFather posted...
Imagine defending Antifa Imagine defending the notion they are worse than the group literally killing people and routinely calling for genocide.
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BLAKUboy posted...
Prodrivertn posted...Free speech for everyone. Leave your clubs and pepper spray at home. Curios about the gun discharge to the pepper spray discharge ratio. |
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literal neo nazis with guns and killing people with cars arent labeled terrorists yeah this country isnt racist no sir
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DirkDiggles posted...
A few were, but not many. The bigger issue was that a lot of them were chanting "Jew will not replace us". What I think has happened was that in that area, all the alt-right and pro-white groups had to collect together to work against Antifa. But the craziest group took over. Basically, Antifa shutting down conversation so much and being so violent forced majority of groups to adopt a MORE dangerous ideology. Good f***ing Job Antifa, you're idiots. You created more Nazi's. I hope you're proud of yourself. These guys are idiots. With that said, I'm still not for them being terrorist organization. Just punish the violent ones. |
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Though I certainly don't defend Trump's lackadaisical handling of the radical right, I would say that Antifa presently behaves in a way more similar to terrorists than the recent Neo-Nazi movement, despite the broader message of the latter being more inflammatory.
Or rather, it may be more accurate to say that more people associated with Antifa recently have participated in what may be considered terrorist behavior than the modern Neo-Nazi movement.
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DreadedWave posted...
Lol dude, the KKK in recent history, isn't anywhere near as violent as Antifa. Antifa is a MUCH bigger problem than the KKK. Now you might be wondering why I'd say a racist group isn't as bad as an anti-racist group. That's a fair statement but misses the point. The issue is violence, and the group committing more violence, and condoning more violence, are the worse group. A lot of KKK don't even hate black people, they just think America is a country that should be dominantly white, but they don't think less of black people. It's a really stupid and dangerous way of thinking, but hate and violence isn't there. |
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Dragonblade01 posted...
I would say that Antifa presently behaves in a way more similar to terrorists than the recent Neo-Nazi Weird because I'm pretty sure running over groups of people with vehicles intending to kill them is a pretty common thing that Islamic terrorists have been doing recently. |
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kenio8185 posted...
With that said, a big difference here is that most of Antifa condones the violence. Whereas most White Nationalists (including Richard Spencer himself) said that running people over with cars was not good and completely denounced it. So that MIGHT be a reason why, I guess. You can't achieve white supremacy goals without death and violence so I don't want to hear about not condoning violence. Right-wing extremists can make chant for Blood and Soil, march with torches and guns, commit the most terrorism in America and there are some "good people" among them? But anti-fascists? Some of them smash windows and beat people up, so they are all terrorists. Both sides need to be held accountable, my pimply ass. Not in Trump's America. |
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kenio8185 posted...
Lol dude, the KKK in recent history, isn't anywhere near as violent as Antifa. Antifa is a MUCH bigger problem than the KKK. The number of deaths caused by Antifa = ? |
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Donald Trump is a neo nazi supporter
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kenio8185 posted...
A lot of KKK don't even hate black people, they just think America is a country that should be dominantly white, but they don't think less of black people. Right..... I too want to kick people out of my country when I have no issue with them. |
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DreadedWave posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...I would say that Antifa presently behaves in a way more similar to terrorists than the recent Neo-Nazi It's easier to attribute that horrible incident to outliers than it is to do the same for the consistently antagonistic behavior of Antifa.
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DreadedWave posted...
It's especially ridiculous because groups like the KKK are far more organized than Antifa. hockeybub89 posted... kenio8185 posted...Lol dude, the KKK in recent history, isn't anywhere near as violent as Antifa. Antifa is a MUCH bigger problem than the KKK. This is part of the problem. We're using the literal KKK to try and make antifa look good
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hockeybub89 posted...
Right..... It has nothing to do with black people. It's more like it has to do with the bible. These people think the bible indirectly says that black people can't be in America. I don't know why'd they think that. It's especially stupid when you consider that well, the Bible, according to the Bible is like what 5000 years old? And we have documented history of America being like what 300 years old or something like that. These people are stupid. But it's more about "following" the Bible than it is about the black people themselves. |
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kenio8185 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Right..... Their Bible tells them to think less of black people. That also isn't a normal interpretation seeing as how most Christians are not white supremacists or Nazis. |
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Bloodychess posted...
This is part of the problem. We're using the literal KKK to try and make antifa look good No, the problem is the government refuses to acknowledge the KKK as the evil they are. Oh but those Antifa people yeah they're bad news, they're breaking windows and s***.
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hockeybub89 posted...
The number of deaths caused by Antifa = ? Well, you gotta look at recent history. Antifa is more violent, and they promote more violence, and they condone more violence. The KKK, for the most part, don't condone violence. There are factions that do, of course, but at most, those factions are like what, 100-200 people. Antifa has thousands upon thousands of people who are all condoning more violence. KKK (in recent history) is not responsible for nearly as much violence. Although with that said, when it does happen, it is worse. But due to their small numbers, Antifa will be the bigger issue. |
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BLAKUboy posted...
f*** the KKK and f*** Antifa. Neither should be labeled a terrorist organization. Just punish violent people. |
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kenio8185 posted...
Well, you gotta look at recent history. And how many people have Antifa killed in recent history?
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kenio8185 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Right..... I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the KKK is. |
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BLAKUboy posted...
Bloodychess posted...This is part of the problem. We're using the literal KKK to try and make antifa look good And there's another problem, we're trivializing riots. Also, almost every local government has shut down their rallies, so that statement doesn't hold up.
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Bloodychess posted...
This is part of the problem. We're using the literal KKK to try and make antifa look good I don't want to make them look good. But how can a nebulous idea with next to no death toll in America be a terror group by the same government that stopped looking at white supremacist and other right-wing domestic terror groups ? What happened to both sides? |
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BLAKUboy posted...
I don't know, how many? How many have the KKK killed? Also, how many violent actions do the separate groups take? By violent actions, I mean directly attacking someone. Look within the last 5 years and come back with an answer. |
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Bloodychess posted...
And there's another problem, we're trivializing riots. We're not trivializing anything. Some people are just aware of which group has literal blood on their hands.
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BLAKUboy posted...
Bloodychess posted...And there's another problem, we're trivializing riots. Yep, so keep using that as your crutch as to why Antifa just isn't that bad
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CrimsonRage posted...
kenio8185 posted...hockeybub89 posted...Right..... No, the real issue is that people like YOU have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the KKK is. There are separate factions of the KKK. The most violent and extreme factions are also the smallest ones, and this is the KKK here, who altogether, is still a really small group of people. Majority of the bigger factions are like what I have described above. Thinking that God wants them to get black people out of the country, but they don't hate black people (although a lot are scared of them). |
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If you label Antifa terrorists, they will act like terrorists.
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http://signavatar.com/26999_s.pngBloodychess posted...Yep, so keep using that as your clutch as to why Antifa just isn't that bad
Seriously, wtf is up with liberals mang.
Conservatives regularly criticize their extreme groups. Like the Alt-Right, or White Supremacists, or White Nationalists.
But Liberals? They absolutely refuse to criticize their extreme groups. They won't criticize BLM (because you know, causing riots and destruction in poor black neighborhoods is apparently helping black people), they won't criticize Black Bloc, they won't criticize Antifa.
Seriously, liberals have a massive problem with critical thinking and self reflection.Dragonblade01 posted...At the very least, it certainly needs to be acknowledged by the United States government that both groups are harmful to the nation.
Donald Trump did what you literally just asked for. He got completely s*** on for it.
Although tbh, I agree with s***ting on him for it. Wtf dude, one group ran over someone, call them out on that bulls***. If it was a muslim that did it, then he wouldn't say "both sides", he'd criticize islam so fast. Dude isn't consistent at all.The lack of deaths caused by Antifa isn't from lack of trying, it's from pure luck.
Smashing someone over the head with a bike lock could have killed someone.
Attacking someone with a bat could have killed someone.
Blowing fire with a makeshift flamethrower could have killed someone.
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At the very least, it certainly needs to be acknowledged by the United States government that both groups are harmful to the nation.
Donald Trump did what you literally just asked for. He got completely s*** on for it.
Although tbh, I agree with s***ting on him for it. Wtf dude, one group ran over someone, call them out on that bulls***. If it was a muslim that did it, then he wouldn't say "both sides", he'd criticize islam so fast. Dude isn't consistent at all.
Donald Trump got s*** on because he half-assed it. It never seems like he takes anything seriously unless he can use it to rally what little support from his base that he can.PSN: kazukifafnerNomadic View posted...The lack of deaths caused by Antifa isn't from lack of trying, it's from pure luck.
Smashing someone over the head with a bike lock could have killed someone.
Attacking someone with a bat could have killed someone.
Blowing fire with a makeshift flamethrower could have killed someone.
It's just pure luck that all of their victims survived.
I know it doesn't seem like much. But there was that one video where some dude who's part of Antifa throws a full can of Pepsi in the air, really hard. If that hit someone, it could have killed someone.kenio8185 posted...Donald Trump did what you literally just asked for. He got completely s*** on for it.
Because he didn't mean it at all. He read the whole speech off a telepromter.Dragonblade01 posted...
Donald Trump got s*** on because he half-assed it. It never seems like he takes anything seriously unless he can use it to rally what little support from his base that he can.
Well that's true. But it was also dismissing the WAY worse actions of one of the sides. It's kind of insulting really.
Like, he's technically right, but he should've made the "both sides" statement like a week or 2 later.Dragonblade01 posted...It should be easy to recognize the tragedy of what happened in Charlottesville while also acknowledging it as the result of escalating tensions stemming from very obvious sources.
But he couldn't even do that much.
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