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They shouldn't be mistreated but they should accept that most people are very uncomfortable and dismissive of the concept.
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I accept, and i guess i support but i won't go out of my way for dem dat much i guess tbh
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Kinda. I'm in the same boat as Chapelle.
"Cool that you can be who you want to be, but to what extent do you expect me to participate?" I mean, an obvious dude with stubble wearing a dress is still a dude wearing a dress to me, no matter what self image he might have. Like that one topic months back about that weirdo with the blue wig whining because he wasn't allowed to use the ladies' room.
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ssj3vegeta posted...
Dis is where i draw da line Damn, that's f***ed up on so many different levels
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To an extent, so long as they don't act like being trans makes them god's gift to mankind or above criticism of any kind, and yes I have met people like this irl
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averagejoel posted...
NurseRedHeart posted... Apparently. Like they should just do nothing and accept that people aren't going to be comfortable with them being... themselves? I don't know this is the type of stupid s*** that's responsible for their high suicide rate. You don't have to bend your back to support them, just accept them as people and treat them like you would anyone else. Boom. Problem solved.
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averagejoel posted...
NurseRedHeart posted... Basically they need to tolerate others
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ssj3vegeta posted...
Dis is where i draw da line LMAO |
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averagejoel posted... so acknowledging their humanity is, to you, dependent on them being civil with people who refuse to ackowledge their humanity?
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No it's a mental illness issue so I am sympathetic to them but that's it.
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People with physical disabilities yes, but not enabling mental illnesses.
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fusespliff posted...
Kinda. I'm in the same boat as Chapelle. Pretty much this. I accept the rights of transgender people and they can be who they want to be. But now that they have rights, I expect them to act in accordance to at least the bare minimum of social norms. If they try to force me to find them attractive, or if they decide to dress like goth kids, I'll treat them as such.
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I can't vote. I just don't care about them, at all. Let them swap genders, s*** wherever they want, doesn't effect me in the slightest. On the flip side though, I also don't care if people think they are freaks either*. I have my own s*** to worry about, I don't give a single half of a whole f*** about your cause. Do what you need to do, but leave me alone.
*Note: That doesn't mean I'm fine with them getting murdered or killing themselves over it. Big difference between thinking that a guy getting his meat lopped off is weird and driving them to suicide or killing them.
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Nope. And I'm not accepting or supportive of gay people either.
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I don't care really. It's their life and they can live it however they want. It doesn't affect me.
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fusespliff posted... I don't think you're going to come across a whole lot of people who try to 'force you' to find them attractive lol.
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I would never discriminate against anyone for no reason, I would have no trouble befriending them if we liked the same things, basically like any other human being, but I don't see the concept of being trans as a rational one. Now being intersex is totally different, it's physical, real, and its potentially negative social effects are substantial, I would hold its severity to the same level as being paraplegic, amputees or other conditions that significantly, physically affect our bodies. I absolutely support anyone who falls under this category.
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Sure, why wouldn't I? What they do doesn't affect other people directly, and if it makes them happier then more power to them?
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On this issue I am a bit of a left wing heretic. I have serious concerns as to whether surgery can actually make someone into a woman, or a woman into a man. It might make the underlying pathology much worse. The surgery itself doesn't change your gender; that's a misconception. It treats gender dysphoria. Gender is socially constructed and hence can't be affected via medical intervention. A transwoman is a transwoman whether or not sex reassignment surgery takes place.
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I'm indifferent. I see and interact with trans people everywhere almost daily). I also have a MtF friend. It doesn't bother me but I also don't understand it.
I don't think I'd be happy if my own child was trans though. It might take me a while to accept it but I'd definitely not try to encourage it.
How can one person post so much stupid s***?
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Not really. I feel transgender's are just homosexuals who need more attention.
I support gay marriage and equal rights fully. But chopping off your donger, I don't agree with. I thinkt he surgery should be illegal actually. It's not even proved to increase the happiness, as far as I know the suicide rate remains the same even after the surgery. |
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No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.
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http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.pngIt doesn't bother me either way, so I suppose I do. People can be whoever they want to be and do whatever they want with their lives, that's their business and I don't have the right to tell anyone otherwise.
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No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.
Lol. Even when playing make believe I came home to a little tikes fortress with my wife making dinner after being an astronaut, firefighter, or cowboy that day.
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****poster ExtraordinaireI treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.
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Mist_Turnips posted...
No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.
And yet you believe in god.
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http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.pngI'm fine with some LGBT people. A lesbian couple I work with have normal kids between them. A gay guy I know, his son (14) claims he's gay like his dad and the daughter (12) claims to be trans. They both live with him because the mother is a deadbeat (as far as I am told). But because of people like him it makes me reject the whole thing altogether, especially since it has become a fad. I see so many gay and trans kids running around when all they need is proper parenting.
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You want to give small children drugs so they can transition just because "well I clearly remember what I thought about gender at that age so it'll be good for them" is where I'll tell you to f*** off
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^Healthcare shouldn't discriminate. Trans people want to live happy healthy lives just like anyone else.
I consider it cosmetic and the government shouldn't cover cosmetic surgery.
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.
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I consider it cosmetic
Your opinion
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and the government shouldn't cover cosmetic surgery.
True. Fortunately, the people in power don't share your opinion that it's cosmetic.
even if I were a woman, I would never want to be my girlfriend - FranklinUltimately I'm not going to do anything against anyone regardless of my feelings so, whatever. Having said that -
Everything I've heard, seen, and read on gender dysphoria leads me to believe there is biological legitimacy to MtF and FtM transgender people, so I have zero objections there. My skepticism lies with things outside of that, because I haven't seen any good arguments for things like bigender, agender, gender-fluidity, etc. beyond "That's how they feel." That's a poor reason to accept it without question; some people are insane and feel like they're something they plainly aren't, like a dog or a chair or something. I want concrete biological reasoning. Like I said though, I'm not going to harass them about it because, in the end, it doesn't affect me.
This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic.Yes, they should be allowed to exist as they are, and laws should exist to protect their rights. I'm fine with whatever surgery they want on a personal level, but I'm not really sure if it's something that should medically recommended as a treatment. I'm not fine with the people who want to redefine gender and sex to suit a minority view and bash anyone who goes against it. Transgender people should not be allowed to play any segregated professional sport under their identified gender, as that undermines the entire point of segregating by gender. There is nothing wrong with those who would date transgenders, but the minority of people acting like any regular straight/gay person should just include such people in their dating pool because "they are what they say they are" is just silly.CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.
if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho
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Well I'm not a s***ty person, so yes.
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CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.
if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho
Did he say they were the same?
Well, he implied them to be better by bringing up pre and post transition then claiming the surgery as being life saving. Did you have a point?
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PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin CommunityDepends on what you mean by "accept".
I don't agree with treating Transpeople as special snowflakes that must be granted special rights and must be immune and protected from criticism. So no, I do not "accept" them.
Seems ridiculous that some idiots are still bothered by trans people existing
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
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CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.
if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho
Did he say they were the same?
Well, he implied them to be better by bringing up pre and post transition then claiming the surgery as being life saving. Did you have a point?
I thought suicide rates actually increased after getting a sex change.
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They just don't want to be treated like some 5 year old living out a fantasy. That's so insulting. The people that feel the need to mention that stuff don't really seem to get it.
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I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.
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No.
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--kresnik-- posted...
I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.
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No.
You forgot to log into an alt :thinking:
Heh. Nice.
Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/I don't know that "accept and support" is the right way to put it for me.
I accept them, in the sense that I acknowledge hormone therapy treatments and cosmetic surgery are probably the most effect methods of treating them that we currently have and they shouldn't be especially abused or discriminated against for it.
But I think we should still look for other treatments that fix whatever is wrong in their brains that's effecting the way they feel about their bodies.
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I don't know that "accept and support" is the right way to put it for me.
I accept them, in the sense that I acknowledge hormone therapy treatments and cosmetic surgery are probably the most effect methods of treating them that we currently have and they shouldn't be especially abused or discriminated against for it.
But I think we should still look for other treatments that fix whatever is wrong in their brains that's effecting the way they feel about their bodies.
You people supporting brainwash make me sick.
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Respect is earned, you are not entitled to be respected.
They don't demand special treatment or demand that you be attracted to them.
Really?
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Yeah, in the way that I don't really give a damn. Why on Earth should I have a problem with them?the real Irving Rameses
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I do sometimes feel that transgenerism etc is just a mental illness, much like body dysmorphia and a bodybuilder etc thinking there's something wrong with them so they train to improve their image etc.
Gender dysmorphia IS a thing, I'm not entirely sure exacerbating the condition with hormones etc is really necessary or even healthy in the long term, but to each their own, I guess.War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.I have no problems with homosexuals , transgender etc. It's a life they live and want to live . Life is short, you don't need to like it but at least respect them , they're humans too. "Genderless" on the other hand . ..Psn: An_Axe_Murderer 360: An Axe Murd3r3r 3ds friend code: 3067 6981 0482 plz add meI guess?
Idgaf what you do with your life, gender change or not. Just don't be a f***ing snowflake about it. I do agree that trans should focus on fixing mental issues first before going through with it. Some trans have unrealistic expectations on how they look when they get older imoWhat "covfefe" really stands for: Charlie Oscar Victor Foxtrot Echo Foxtrot EchoEdwardoMario16 posted...The majority of transgender people are reasonable and want to be treated like the average person should be treated: with respect.
Respect is earned, you are not entitled to be respected.
Everybody is entitled to be respected. It's common courtesy. Respect is given until a person behaves in a way where they are no longer deserving of that respect.They don't demand special treatment or demand that you be attracted to them.
Really?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/trans-man-believes-heterosexual-males-who-reject-him-sexually-are-prejudice
http://www.dailywire.com/news/17419/apparently-youre-deeply-transphobic-if-you-dont-amanda-prestigiacomo#exit-modal
Two irrational people means that the entire transgender population is. Got it."Are you accepting and supportive of transgender people?"
I accept that they exist, and I won't attempt to hinder their existence.
Do I support them? Not in the sense of rallying at trans marches, or anything like that.
Now, would I date a transwoman? Well, no, because I'm married.
If I wasn't married?
Maybe. She'd have to be fully transitioned, post op AND completely feminine in appearance/attitude. Basically, she'd have to be indistinguishable from a woman who was born a woman.
If that idea makes me transphobic, which it doesn't, then oh well.PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing LegacyDyinglegacy posted..."Are you accepting and supportive of transgender people?"
I accept that they exist, and I won't attempt to hinder their existence.
Do I support them? Not in the sense of rallying at trans marches, or anything like that.
Now, would I date a transwoman? Well, no, because I'm married.
If I wasn't married?
Maybe. She'd have to be fully transitioned, post op AND completely feminine in appearance/attitude. Basically, she'd have to be indistinguishable from a woman who was born a woman.
If that idea makes me transphobic, which it doesn't, then oh well.
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Think they should be treated with respect? Yes
Want to see a society that doesn't look down upon them or ostracize them? Yes
Think long-standing societal traditions should be re-written for them? No
Think kids in elementary school need to be given lectures on transgenders? No
Think we should ignore biological differences and expect heterosexual people to be attracted to them? No- The AdmiralZero_Destroyer posted...--kresnik-- posted...
I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.
--kresnik-- posted...No.
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I didn't contradict myself. I never claimed to treat people differently because of being transsexual, but you don't have to agree with something to be polite about it."I don't get mad. I am better than you. All members of antifa are better humans than you." - YourAltA lot of you are stating that being transgender is a mental illness. Do you guys have any solid scientific proof to prove that claim?
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