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in the past 12 years.
In the last 12 years, terrorist attacks in Europe have killed 459 civilians. This month, the US killed 472 civilians in Syria alone. Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.)
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CE, don't...
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Kitt posted...
CE, don't...
I'm Mary Poppins y'all.
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Kitt posted...
CE, don't... but i wanna |
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CE don't
but damn, numbers don't lie.
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Where's the lie?
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Kitt posted...
Rookie User I don't see how his account age is relevant to his position. Does the fact that he's a rookie user mean the US doesn't murder large amounts of innocent people on a regular basis?
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What kind of name is Horus Leftfield?
Is that a reference I'm missing?
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Antifar posted...
Where's the lie?
I don't know my gimmick
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"They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths
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NadYobWoc posted...
Kitt posted...Rookie User Nice try.
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Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.
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don't do it!
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BLAKUboy posted...
Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. |
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Kitt posted...
NadYobWoc posted...Kitt posted...Rookie User Are you implying I'm his alt? I'm CowboyDan, ive been here for like 7 years. CADE FOSTER posted... BLAKUboy posted...Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.
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stealmypandas posted...
don't do it!
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So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!"
Think about that for a second.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan.
kin to all that throbs
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" They kill americas allies they are closer than america obviously
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Expect those numbers to rise as Trump ramps up the military efforts in Afghanistan too
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Axiom posted...
"They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths there's a poster on CE that justified innocents dying by saying that since women and children are sometimes used for terrorist attacks, and likely deserve it
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CADE FOSTER posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" Yea but allies aren't American. What does a random child in Europe have to do with Obama bombing Syria? Nothing, but terrorists are idiots so they kill anybody who is western to get back at America.
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Antifar posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!"
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Antifar posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" This is an incredibly ignorant comment. al Qaeda was hiding in Afghanistan. Yes many of its people were ethnic Saudis, including Bin Laden himself, but they weren't operating out of Saudi Arabia. We went into Afghanistan to take out al Qaeda, and the Taliban government refused to hand them over and cooperate, so we decided to take them out too. We chased Bin Laden into the Tora Bora mountains in the months after 9/11, but we lost him after December 2001 because we f***ed up. Watch this little TV documentary on it if you're curious, one of the special ops guys who was on the ground during all of this came forth about everything back in 2008. 
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" They likely view it as "the west", much like how dumb red necks often say we should "bomb the middle east".
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NadYobWoc posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f*** America, let's kill Europeans!" This. An attack on a single country to them is a successful attack on the whole west |
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Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates"
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We need to do more to avoid civilian causalities.
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates" We pretty much have admitted it, or at least admitted it was a bad strategy. Trump put an end to it. Probably one of the few good things he's done. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html?mcubz=0
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.) Lol ok. |
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Callixtus posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates" Good. It'll be awkward when Assad wins the war, but good.
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CarlGrimes posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.) Anything else to add?
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Who's your main main
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BLAKUboy posted...
Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. this y i k e s |
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holy s*** CE gets more disgustingly repulsive every day
imagine ignoring mass genocide because of someones level on a gamefaqs message board imagine being that repulsively evil |
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FluttershyPony posted...
>syria Love and friendship, except for brown people.
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
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I'm glad our government is protecting freedom around the globe. USA! USA!
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Love and friendship, except for brown people. 
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As a wise man once said, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
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BLAKUboy posted...
Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.
"Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman
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NadYobWoc posted...
Kitt posted...Rookie User basically the muricans dont engage with facts that make them look bad. if they don't acknowledge it, it goes away. look at how they handled the kunduz hospital bombing. silence silence silence until people forget. |
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TC seems like a troll, but since there are people in this topic acting like the numbers he posted are real without any sources, I'll post some actual sources.
The US has confirmed the death of 685 civilians between Syria and Iraq since the recent conflict began in August 2014: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-civilian-deaths/u-s-led-forces-acknowledge-killing-61-more-civilians-in-iraq-syria-idUSKCN1BC4O1 And some quick math based on what's listed here, Islamic terrorism has killed roughly 460 civilians in Europe in the same period of time (440ish if you decide to start counting from August, so it lines up more exactly with the US-Syria conflict): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014%E2%80%93present) Yes, the US has killed more civilians in Syria than Islamic terrorists have killed in Europe since 2014. Has it killed more in 1 month than were killed in 12 years? False as hell. And this doesn't even count the number of deaths in the Islamic world or US due to Islamic extremism. Or contend with the issue that a country who ends up accidentally killing civilians as collateral damage, as unsavory as that is, is very ideologically different from a group of radicalized zealots who act specifically with the goal of killing as many innocent people as possible (and innocent people not even from the country who is bombing them, for that matter). The former can be rightfully criticized for their failures relative to their stated goal of killing terrorists and restoring order, whereas the latter group's killings of innocents would to them be considered a huge success based on their own stated goals.
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snake1989 posted...
The US has confirmed stopped reading right there |
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ModLogic posted...
snake1989 posted...The US has confirmed Alright, then let's consider the highest number of casualties reported by any tracking agency to date: "The military recently confirmed that American-led airstrikes had been responsible for at least 352 civilian deaths since the start of the war against the Islamic State. But Airwars estimated that the total was eight times higher. The group found that at least 3,100 civilians were killed in American-led airstrikes from August 2014 to March 2017." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/middleeast/syria-airstrikes-civilians.html?mcubz=1 Sounds pretty awful, and if those numbers are accurate, they are deplorable and the US can do better and should be held to a higher standard. But those estimates are also 3 times that of the Syrian Network for Human Rights (http://orient-news.net/en/news_show/136037/0/SNHR-US-coalition-strikes-killed-at-least-civilians), and 8 times higher than the US Military estimates, so I don't think they should be taken as certain since there is such a disparity and this is a difficult statistic to track. But let's assume that this 3,100 civilian deaths over 3 years is 100% accurate. Even that figure is still dwarfed by, for example, the death toll Isis inflicted upon Iraq in a shorter 2 year period, estimated at 18,800 deaths, 36,245 injured, and 3500 taken into slavery: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-death-toll-18-800-killed-iraq-2-years-u-n499426 The difference in outcome between trying to avoid killing civilians and trying deliberately to kill them is pretty profound.
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