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KazumaKiryu 2 days ago#1 http://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobs-report-december-2017-2018-1 The US economy added 148,000 jobs in December, fewer than expected, according to a report Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  The unemployment rate remained at 4.1%, a 17-year low that supports the Federal Reserve's assertion that the economy is near full employment. The black unemployment rate fell to a record low of 6.8%.  A plunge in retail jobs, by 20,300, weighed on the labor market as brick-and-mortar stores continued to close.  Still, December was the 87th straight month in which employers hired more people than they fired, extending the longest stretch of job growth on record. The economy created 2.06 million jobs last year. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

Solar_Crimson 2 days ago#2 Thanks Obama http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson reportquote

Balrog0 2 days ago#3 nice He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#4 Excellent. Trump's economic policies benefit everyone. But I'm sure liberals would still rather go back to the Obama era of creating a rift between black people and the police and trying to convince black people that they need to a nanny government to help them. There's no business to be taxed. reportquote

Knowledge_King 2 days ago#5 Awesome http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#6 See, we actually want to get people back to work and feeling good about themselves. Democrats want to keep them scared and depending on the government to get by so they can control them. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

ThanksUglyGod 2 days ago#7 Great news sandwiched by TC's shitposting reportquote

spincr 2 days ago#8 Great work Trump! In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job. reportquote

Were_Wyrm  awake to mic2 days ago#9 Trumps America... I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#10 Imagine how many posts this thread would have if it was people shitting on Trump like usual Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

darkjedilink 2 days ago#11 So does this mean that Trump is racist because he's putting black people to work, allowing them to be self-sufficient and not dependent on the government as liberals would have them? 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

Awesome 2 days ago#12 liberals are fuming http://i.imgur.com/gWCYPlD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Ls3OgWR.jpg reportquote

DuranOfForcena 2 days ago#13 too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. reportquote

einegutePerson 2 days ago#14 if the black unemployment rate didn't get affected by you added more jobs wouldn't that lower the black unemployment rate anyway im a good person reportquote

Vindris_SNH 2 days ago#15 take THAT liherals glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? reportquote

Vindris_SNH 2 days ago#16 DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. lol look at this salty liberal trying to make excuses glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? reportquote

einegutePerson 2 days ago#17 >meanwhile when the unemployment rate would improve under Obama, the same conservative-types on CE were so quick to mention how flawed the unemployment rate is im a good person reportquote

Gamer99z 2 days ago#18 ThanksUglyGod posted... Great news sandwiched by TC's shitposting How is this not notable and how is it shitposting? "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus reportquote

Vindris_SNH 2 days ago#19 tracking this topic for liberal tears glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#20 DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. What's your point? Yes, the real unemployment rate is absolutely much higher than the reported statistics. However, the point is that whichever metric you're looking at, black unemployment is now better than ever. And yes, it's thanks to President Trump. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

Balrog0 2 days ago#21 Gamer99z posted... How is this not notable and how is it shitposting? did he say it wasn't notable? I'm pretty sure the shitposting he's talking about is stuff like this: KazumaKiryu posted... See, we actually want to get people back to work and feeling good about themselves. Democrats want to keep them scared and depending on the government to get by so they can control them. He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

Bullet_Wing 2 days ago#22 KazumaKiryu posted... DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. What's your point? Yes, the real unemployment rate is absolutely much higher than the reported statistics. However, the point is that whichever metric you're looking at, black unemployment is now better than ever. And yes, it's thanks to President Trump. What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes reportquote

GuyCarlPeterson 2 days ago#23 Awesome posted... liberals are fuming Nah. They are crediting Obama. Father's dream; devour the twin. Sisters scream "for our sins."  They'll cut their flesh to make amends, and grasp for ghosts that savior sends. reportquote

JE19426 2 days ago#24 Solar_Crimson posted... Thanks Obama reportquote

DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#25 Bullet_Wing posted... KazumaKiryu posted... DuranOfForcena posted...  show hidden quote(s) What's your point? Yes, the real unemployment rate is absolutely much higher than the reported statistics. However, the point is that whichever metric you're looking at, black unemployment is now better than ever. And yes, it's thanks to President Trump. What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Trump's pro business policies are creating jobs and boosting the economy. Thus there's more opportunities for everyone, including black people. There's no business to be taxed. reportquote

Bullet_Wing 2 days ago#26 GuyCarlPeterson posted... Awesome posted... liberals are fuming Nah. They are crediting Obama. Bullet_Wing posted... What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes reportquote

Gamer99z 2 days ago#27 Balrog0 posted... Gamer99z posted... How is this not notable and how is it shitposting? did he say it wasn't notable? I'm pretty sure the shitposting he's talking about is stuff like this: KazumaKiryu posted... See, we actually want to get people back to work and feeling good about themselves. Democrats want to keep them scared and depending on the government to get by so they can control them. He said "great news sandwich by TC's shitposting" which means he either thinks blacks hitting an all time low for unemployment rate is great news, or he means the mere mention of it is shitposting and that we should just be celebrating the net gain of jobs. "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus reportquote

Bullet_Wing 2 days ago#28 DifferentialEquation posted... Bullet_Wing posted... KazumaKiryu posted...  show hidden quote(s) What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Trump's pro business policies are creating jobs and boosting the economy. Thus there's more opportunities for everyone, including black people. Bullet_Wing posted... Not just vague platitudes reportquote

Balrog0 2 days ago#29 Gamer99z posted... He said "great news sandwich by TC's shitposting" which means he either thinks blacks hitting an all time low for unemployment rate is great news, or he means the mere mention of it is shitposting and that we should just be celebrating the net gain of jobs. idgi, his meaning is incredibly straightforward to me there is good news. it is surrounded by tc's shitposting. He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

GiftedACIII 2 days ago#30 Came in ironically to say this is because of trump. Find I've been already beaten by several unironic posts. </topic> reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#31 GiftedACIII posted... Came in ironically to say this is because of trump. Find I've been already beaten by several unironic posts. You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. Bullet_Wing posted... What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Pro-business policies and removing Obama-era regulations that were destroying jobs. It's pretty simple, actually. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

MrBobGray 2 days ago#32 DifferentialEquation posted... Bullet_Wing posted... KazumaKiryu posted...  show hidden quote(s) What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Trump's pro business policies are creating jobs and boosting the economy. Thus there's more opportunities for everyone, including black people. I don’t think you know what a vague platitude is. Do you have Prince Albert in a can? reportquote

GiftedACIII 2 days ago#33 KazumaKiryu posted... GiftedACIII posted... Came in ironically to say this is because of trump. Find I've been already beaten by several unironic posts. You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. lol ok trumpanzee shitposter </topic> reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#34 GiftedACIII posted... KazumaKiryu posted... GiftedACIII posted...  show hidden quote(s) You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. lol ok trumpanzee shitposter yeah, call everyone a fucking shitposter and stay entirely ignorant of what's happening in the world around you. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

Gamer99z 2 days ago#35 Balrog0 posted... Gamer99z posted...  He said "great news sandwich by TC's shitposting" which means he either thinks blacks hitting an all time low for unemployment rate is great news, or he means the mere mention of it is shitposting and that we should just be celebrating the net gain of jobs. idgi, his meaning is incredibly straightforward to me  there is good news. it is surrounded by tc's shitposting. So there's the good news. Then there's what the feels is TC's shitposting. Where does this information, and the discussion that needs to accompany it, fit into that? Is it the good news or is it the shitposting? "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

GuyCarlPeterson 2 days ago#36 If this is because of Obama then why didn't it happen in his 8 years? Father's dream; devour the twin. Sisters scream "for our sins."  They'll cut their flesh to make amends, and grasp for ghosts that savior sends. reportquote

Balrog0 2 days ago#37 KazumaKiryu posted... You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. KazumaKiryu posted... Pro-business policies and removing Obama-era regulations that were destroying jobs. It's pretty simple, actually. He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

GiftedACIII 2 days ago#38 KazumaKiryu posted... GiftedACIII posted... KazumaKiryu posted...  show hidden quote(s) lol ok trumpanzee shitposter yeah, call everyone a fucking shitposter and stay entirely ignorant of what's happening in the world around you. lol, I'm not taking an alt who's already made a name of himself for being an uneducated trump shlurper seriously. Sorry if that hurts your trumpanzee feelings. </topic> reportquote

TheMikh 2 days ago#39 I'm a bit skeptical about the unemployment rate, as it doesn't account for people that have dropped out of the labor force for an extended period of time and aren't actively seeking employment. All in all though, I'm convinced the economy is in a transitional period between a "stable" but low-growth economy due to Obama/Fed rigging, and a somewhat less stable but high-growth economy due to Trump tax cuts and deregulation, characterized by a great deal of bullishness due to the simultaneous wealth generation and stability. But I don't think this will last, and we're overdue for a correction before organic growth resumes and we see a truly healthy economy. http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png reportquote

creativerealms 2 days ago#40 According to Trump that unemployment rate is fake right? Or was that only the case before he was president? No sig. reportquote

KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#41 GuyCarlPeterson posted... If this is because of Obama then why didn't it happen in his 8 years? BECUASE TRAUMP IS A BIG ORANGE ORANGUTAN JERK Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

creativerealms 2 days ago#42 KazumaKiryu posted... GiftedACIII posted... Came in ironically to say this is because of trump. Find I've been already beaten by several unironic posts. You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. Bullet_Wing posted... What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Pro-business policies and removing Obama-era regulations that were destroying jobs. It's pretty simple, actually. Such as? No sig. reportquote

Antifar 2 days ago#43 https://qz.com/851066/almost-all-the-10-million-jobs-created-since-2005-are-temporary/ kin to all that throbs reportquote

creativerealms 2 days ago#44 GuyCarlPeterson posted... If this is because of Obama then why didn't it happen in his 8 years? It did why do you think republicans had to lie and say the unemployment rate was fake? No sig. reportquote

Balrog0 2 days ago#45 Antifar posted... https://qz.com/851066/almost-all-the-10-million-jobs-created-since-2005-are-temporary/ if anything this makes the case that we should be thanking Trump more than we are, considering that this was written before he was president He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

The Great Muta 22 2 days ago#46 https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was little changed at 1.5 million in December and accounted for 22.9 percent of the unemployed. Over the year, the number of long-term unemployed declined by 354,000. The labor force participation rate, at 62.7 percent, was unchanged over the month and over the year. The employment-population ratio was unchanged at 60.1 percent in December but was up by 0.3 percentage point over the year.  The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was essentially unchanged at 4.9 million in December but was down by 639,000 over the year. These individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 reportquote

ThanksUglyGod 2 days ago#47 Gamer99z posted... Balrog0 posted... Gamer99z posted...  show hidden quote(s) did he say it wasn't notable? I'm pretty sure the shitposting he's talking about is stuff like this: KazumaKiryu posted...  show hidden quote(s) He said "great news sandwich by TC's shitposting" which means he either thinks blacks hitting an all time low for unemployment rate is great news, or he means the mere mention of it is shitposting and that we should just be celebrating the net gain of jobs. This. Also, KazumaKiryu posted... Pro-business policies and removing Obama-era regulations that were destroying jobs. It's pretty simple, actually. The US economy created 148,000 jobs in December, fewer than economists had forecast. The retail sector lost the most jobs amid a wave of store closings. lmao reportquote

Antifar 2 days ago#48 Balrog0 posted... if anything this makes the case that we should be thanking Trump more than we are, considering that this was written before he was president Do you think the trend has changed in the year and a half since? Here are some Trump era articles on the same issue: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/The-biggest-job-growth-in-Houston-this-year-It-s-12203416.php http://www.businessinsider.com/job-market-shift-makes-mystery-of-weak-wage-growth-less-puzzling-2017-10 kin to all that throbs (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

RECON64bit 2 days ago#49 lol @ giving Trump credit. reportquote

Questionmarktarius 2 days ago#50 DifferentialEquation posted... But I'm sure liberals would still rather go back to the Obama era of creating a rift between black people and the police and trying to convince black people that they need to a nanny government to help them. Give a man a fish, and he becomes dependent on you for his fishes. reportquote

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   Balrog0 2 days ago#51 Antifar posted... Do you think the trend has changed in the year and a half since? it could have, though I don't know that it did the point being that this statistic is pretty irrelevant unless you are already the sort of person who would have credited Obama for the progress made with unemployment during his tenure... which, I mean, isn't the TC at least He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

   A_Good_Boy 2 days ago#52 Are these long term jobs or are we patting Trump on the back for being president during the holiday season? Who is? I am! reportquote

   Bullet_Wing 2 days ago#53 KazumaKiryu posted... GiftedACIII posted... Came in ironically to say this is because of trump. Find I've been already beaten by several unironic posts. You're so fucking brainwashed it's not even funny. Bullet_Wing posted... What exactly did Trump do to make this happen? Please explain with details. Not just vague platitudes Pro-business policies and removing Obama-era regulations that were destroying jobs. It's pretty simple, actually. Bullet_Wing posted... Not just vague platitudes reportquote

   SK8T3R215 2 days ago#54 A_Good_Boy posted... Are these long term jobs or are we patting Trump on the back for being president during the holiday season? Its seasonally adjusted.  Here's all of the rates so people can shitpost about them: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. reportquote

   KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#55 Took a while for the liberal shitposters to wake up I see. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

   Balrog0 2 days ago#56 SK8T3R215 posted... Its seasonally adjusted.  Here's all of the rates so people can shitpost about them: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm it is pretty interesting that U-6 dropped by more than twice as much as U-4 and U-5. Makes sense though He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

   Balrog0 2 days ago#57 actually the percentage is pretty consistent for all of U-1 through U-5 that is kind of unexpected, I would assume that U-1 would drop much less considering who is included He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

   MacDaMurderer 2 days ago#58 DifferentialEquation posted... Excellent. Trump's economic policies benefit everyone. But I'm sure liberals would still rather go back to the Obama era of creating a rift between black people and the police and trying to convince black people that they need to a nanny government to help them. Obama era of creating a rift between black people and police? Black people have never fucked with police. Has nothing to do with Obama or BLM. @macdamurderer GT: Mac Da Murderer reportquote

   Paragon21XX 2 days ago#59 DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. The U-6 unemployment rate? It's about 8% right now. The lowest point it's been since its tracking was the very end of Clinton's presidency at just under 7%. Hmm... reportquote

   Questionmarktarius 2 days ago#60 Balrog0 posted... it is pretty interesting that U-6 dropped by more than twice as much as U-4 and U-5. Makes sense though What does "employed part time for economic reasons" mean? reportquote

   Balrog0 2 days ago#61 Questionmarktarius posted... What does "employed part time for economic reasons" mean? people who want to work full time but are working part-time, either because they have been unable to get enough hours at their job to average 40/week or because there are no other (full time) jobs available it makes sense to me that p/t people would move into f/t work more quickly than people who are not working at all would. The fact that U-1 and U-5 moved about the same also implies that the people who are finding work have been unemployed for short amounts of time (also supported by the relatively small movement in long-term unemployment) He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#62 MacDaMurderer posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Excellent. Trump's economic policies benefit everyone. But I'm sure liberals would still rather go back to the Obama era of creating a rift between black people and the police and trying to convince black people that they need to a nanny government to help them. Obama era of creating a rift between black people and police? Black people have never fucked with police. Has nothing to do with Obama or BLM. The policies of Democrats are what held black people down in the first place. These bad policies often lead to higher rates of poverty in black communities, which in turns leads to more crime. That doesn't mean that the police are somehow evil for arresting black people who do commit crimes like Obama would have you believe. The police didn't put the policies in place that led to black neighborhoods having higher rates of poverty. There's no business to be taxed. (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#63 DifferentialEquation posted... MacDaMurderer posted... DifferentialEquation posted...  show hidden quote(s) Obama era of creating a rift between black people and police? Black people have never fucked with police. Has nothing to do with Obama or BLM. The policies of Democrats are what held black people down in the first place. These bad policies often lead to higher rates of poverty in black communities, which in turns leads to more crime. That doesn't mean that the police are somehow evil for arresting black people who do commit crimes like Obama would have you believe. The police didn't put the policies in place that led to black neighborhoods having higher rates of poverty. Yep and what we're going to see as more people get back to work is that the crime statistics go down. It's all connected, folks. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

   NINExATExSEVEN 2 days ago#64 "Yea well fuck Trump!" - liberals Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... reportquote

   Solid Sonic 2 days ago#65 This will just end with someone screaming “BIASED SOURCE” and stalemate all potential discussion. The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. reportquote

   Returning_CEmen 2 days ago#66 ThanksUglyGod posted... Great news sandwiched by TC's shitposting http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg reportquote

   Capn Circus 2 days ago#67 If Trump is as bad as liberals say he is, why aren't things getting worse?  Why do I just happen to have massive gains in my 401k, much larger and quicker than under Obama?  Why am I going to be saving money in taxes now but never under Obama?  Trump is keeping his promises and this is just year one.  He's the best president we have had in modern history "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks reportquote

   bobbysjoby 2 days ago#68 "lol trump taking credit for obamas achievements lolol" reportquote

   Antifar 2 days ago#69 Capn Circus posted... If Trump is as bad as liberals say he is, why aren't things getting worse?  They are, if you know where to look.  At a time of record profits we have public schools and housing without heat http://www.baltimoresun.com/g00/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-cold-schools-20180103-story.html https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/columnists/andreatta/2018/01/05/andreatta-southview-towers-apartments-south-avenue-rochester-icicles-inside-heating-winter/1003043001/ We have an island without power 3 months after a hurricane https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/puerto-rico-life-without-power/?utm_term=.d97597fba54d Alabama - Trump country - is being labeled the worst poverty in the developed world http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601 Life expectancy is dropping amid the opioid crisis and a rise in suicides https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/21/us-life-expectancy-down-for-second-year-in-a-row-amid-opioid-crisis Wages still aren't growing the way you'd expect with falling unemployment http://itbusinessnet.com/article/US-Wage-Growth-Stagnant-In-December-Up-11-Percent-Year-Over-Year-5233855 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/01/05/in-trumps-first-year-stocks-soar-for-rich-but-wages-stay-flat/ kin to all that throbs (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

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   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#71 Antifar posted... We have an island without power 3 months after a hurricane https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/puerto-rico-life-without-power/?utm_term=.d97597fba54d I don't agree with your other two points, but this is just flat out ridiculous. You can't blame Trump for damage cause by a natural disaster. And Puerto Rico's well being isn't our problem anyways. There's no business to be taxed. reportquote

   Capn Circus 2 days ago#72 Antifar posted... Capn Circus posted... If Trump is as bad as liberals say he is, why aren't things getting worse?  They are, if you know where to look.  At a time of record profits we have public schools and housing without heat http://www.baltimoresun.com/g00/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-cold-schools-20180103-story.html https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/columnists/andreatta/2018/01/05/andreatta-southview-towers-apartments-south-avenue-rochester-icicles-inside-heating-winter/1003043001/ We have an island without power 3 months after a hurricane https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/puerto-rico-life-without-power/?utm_term=.d97597fba54d Alabama - Trump country - is being labeled the worst poverty in the developed world http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601 Life expectancy is dropping amid the opioid crisis and a rise in suicides https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/21/us-life-expectancy-down-for-second-year-in-a-row-amid-opioid-crisis Wages still aren't growing the way you'd expect with falling unemployment http://itbusinessnet.com/article/US-Wage-Growth-Stagnant-In-December-Up-11-Percent-Year-Over-Year-5233855 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/01/05/in-trumps-first-year-stocks-soar-for-rich-but-wages-stay-flat/ Power goes out during storms, nothing new. Puerto Rico was a mess before the Hurricane, and those life expectancy figures are from 2016.  These aren't like really impressive examples of things getting bad and it directly being related to Trump "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks reportquote

   JE19426 2 days ago#73 DifferentialEquation posted... And Puerto Rico's well being isn't our problem anyways. The well being of US citizens residing in the USA isn't the USA's problem? Who's problem is it? France's? Japan's? reportquote

   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#74 JE19426 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... And Puerto Rico's well being isn't our problem anyways. The well being of US citizens residing in the USA isn't the USA's problem? Who's problem is it? France's? Japan's? The relationship between is Puerto Rico and the U.S. is pretty meaningless and in name only. It would be like saying that, because you're technically family, you're responsible for the well being of your one cousin that you see maybe once every 5 years at a wedding/funeral. There's no business to be taxed. reportquote

   JE19426 2 days ago#75 DifferentialEquation posted... The relationship between is Puerto Rico and the U.S. is pretty meaningless and in name only. No, it's not. The USA has full control over military and foreign affairs of Puerto Rico and a decent amount of their economic control. Thar isn't meaningless or in name only. reportquote

   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#76 JE19426 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... The relationship between is Puerto Rico and the U.S. is pretty meaningless and in name only. No, it's not. The USA has full control over military and foreign affairs of Puerto Rico and a decent amount of their economic control. Thar isn't meaningless or in name only. Nah, it's just that it's more in our interest to at least make sure they don't get attacked/invaded by our enemies. We do the same thing for other nations that aren't even U.S. territories. There's no business to be taxed. (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   JE19426 2 days ago#77 DifferentialEquation posted... We do the same thing for other nations that aren't even U.S. territories. How many of them does the USA stop from having their own military? How many does the USA stop from having their own foreign affairs? How many does the USA decide who can enter the country? reportquote

   Antifar 2 days ago#78 Don't waste your time with DE kin to all that throbs reportquote

   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#79 JE19426 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... We do the same thing for other nations that aren't even U.S. territories. How many of them does the USA stop from having their own military? How many does the USA stop from having their own foreign affairs? How many does the USA decide who can enter the country? Are we stopping them from repairing the damage caused by the hurricane? There's no business to be taxed. (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   JE19426 2 days ago#80 DifferentialEquation posted... Are we stopping them from repairing the damage caused by the hurricane? What does that have to do with my statements? reportquote

   Gafemage 2 days ago#81 Antifar posted... Don't waste your time with DE http://imgur.com/1EOFcjn http://imgur.com/epjd8zk reportquote

   Dat_Cracka_Jax 2 days ago#82 DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. Why the fuck would you include people not looking for a job? http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 reportquote

   KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#83 Lmao at using Puerto Rico as an example against Trump The news was saying the hurricane would knock them out of power and devastate the island BEFORE it happened. We knew it would be that way because their infrastructure is so bad. You make a big joke out of yourself trying to pin that on Trump. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

   FightingGames 2 days ago#84 Based trump https://my.mixtape.moe/xmsgxb.jpg reportquote

   Paragon21XX 2 days ago#85 Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. Why the fuck would you include people not looking for a job? They would look for a job if they felt that they could get one, but gave up in the meantime because they lost hope. By keeping track of them, it gives a better picture of how the job market is doing by monitoring who is re-entering the job market or who is leaving because of discouragement. Hmm... reportquote

   PonyLivesMatter 2 days ago#86 Thanks Trump! reportquote

   Giant_Aspirin 2 days ago#87 DifferentialEquation posted... Antifar posted... We have an island without power 3 months after a hurricane https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/puerto-rico-life-without-power/?utm_term=.d97597fba54d I don't agree with your other two points, but this is just flat out ridiculous. You can't blame Trump for damage cause by a natural disaster. And Puerto Rico's well being isn't our problem anyways. Puerto Rico is part of America, you know. Playing: not sure yet ....  (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) reportquote

   Lathissamus 2 days ago#88 DifferentialEquation posted... MacDaMurderer posted... DifferentialEquation posted...  show hidden quote(s) Obama era of creating a rift between black people and police? Black people have never fucked with police. Has nothing to do with Obama or BLM. The policies of Democrats are what held black people down in the first place. These bad policies often lead to higher rates of poverty in black communities, which in turns leads to more crime. That doesn't mean that the police are somehow evil for arresting black people who do commit crimes like Obama would have you believe. The police didn't put the policies in place that led to black neighborhoods having higher rates of poverty. It's amazing that people really believe this. http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif reportquote

   ChaoticKnuckles 2 days ago#89 Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... DuranOfForcena posted... too bad the umemployment rate is a joke and only takes into account people who are actively looking for a legitimate job. the actual unemployed rate would be a lot higher if it actually reflected every single person who was employable but unemployed. Why the fuck would you include people not looking for a job? Those people are still unemployed, they don’t stop being unemployed just because they gave up looking for work. I mean that’s what all the conservatives would say whenever unemployment numbers were said to have dropped under Obama. That the numbers were skewed because it only counts active job seekers and not everyone who is able to work but isn’t. But I guess since Trump is in office the numbers are okay now. You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. reportquote

   Benjamin_Sisko 2 days ago#90 remember when job numbers were fake and not to be trusted http://i.imgur.com/4iXccHS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LwLQNTi.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXzamLDgFk reportquote

   ChaoticKnuckles 2 days ago#91 Benjamin_Sisko posted... remember when job numbers were fake and not to be trusted Trump is in office, now they’re okay. You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. reportquote

   Slip-N-Slide 2 days ago#92 Paragon21XX posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... DuranOfForcena posted...   show hidden quote(s) Why the fuck would you include people not looking for a job? They would look for a job if they felt that they could get one, but gave up in the meantime because they lost hope. By keeping track of them, it gives a better picture of how the job market is doing by monitoring who is re-entering the job market or who is leaving because of discouragement. ChaoticKnuckles posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... DuranOfForcena posted...   show hidden quote(s) Why the fuck would you include people not looking for a job? Those people are still unemployed, they don’t stop being unemployed just because they gave up looking for work. I mean that’s what all the conservatives would say whenever unemployment numbers were said to have dropped under Obama. That the numbers were skewed because it only counts active job seekers and not everyone who is able to work but isn’t. But I guess since Trump is in office the numbers are okay now. But then you'd also be including people who are doing well enough to not need to work. Like a stay at home mom who doesn't need to work because the husband makes enough, or adults that live with their parents and aren't looking for work, or just simply rich people who don't need to work. You could be turning a measurement of the success of the economy into a measurement of the failure of an economy by also including people who aren't looking for work. The most accurate figure to go by for what the unemployment rate is supposed to represent is for those who are looking for work and unable to find one, not people who aren't looking too. Get wet. http://i.imgtc.com/2q3z3TmhFO.jpg reportquote

   metralo 2 days ago#93 Lathissamus posted... It's amazing that people really believe this. ironically, its always said by the most blatantly racist shitposters on the site! shocker! https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg reportquote

   ChaoticKnuckles 2 days ago#94 Slip-N-Slide posted... Paragon21XX posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...  show hidden quote(s) They would look for a job if they felt that they could get one, but gave up in the meantime because they lost hope. By keeping track of them, it gives a better picture of how the job market is doing by monitoring who is re-entering the job market or who is leaving because of discouragement. ChaoticKnuckles posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...  show hidden quote(s) Those people are still unemployed, they don’t stop being unemployed just because they gave up looking for work. I mean that’s what all the conservatives would say whenever unemployment numbers were said to have dropped under Obama. That the numbers were skewed because it only counts active job seekers and not everyone who is able to work but isn’t. But I guess since Trump is in office the numbers are okay now. But then you'd also be including people who are doing well enough to not need to work. Like a stay at home mom who doesn't need to work because the husband makes enough, or adults that live with their parents and aren't looking for work, or just simply rich people who don't need to work. You could be turning a measurement of the success of the economy into a measurement of the failure of an economy by also including people who aren't looking for work. The most accurate figure to go by for what the unemployment rate is supposed to represent is for those who are looking for work and unable to find one, not people who aren't looking too. I don’t disagree, I’m just saying that’s what I would always hear from conservatives when good unemployment numbers would come out for Obama. So either they weren’t good numbers then and they’re also not now, or they’re good numbers now which means they also were the whole time Obama was in office. It can’t be both ways. You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. reportquote

   Bishop9800 2 days ago#95 Laughing at the usual people who blames Obama for the racism in this country. Really? Obama is the cause? Lol!!! I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 reportquote

   bevan306 2 days ago#96 it's the worst year for job growth since 2010 http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan http://i.imgur.com/5Ta28.jpg reportquote

   KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#97 ChaoticKnuckles posted... Benjamin_Sisko posted... remember when job numbers were fake and not to be trusted Trump is in office, now they’re okay. How do you say shit like this and take yourself seriously? Nobody ever claimed the jobs numbers were fake. We made the very real argument that the regular unemployment number that they use is not accurate in that it only counts those recently out of work and looking.  That has not changed. It serves its purpose but does not tell the full story. You also have to look at jobs created and the workforce participation rate. While the unemployment number went down during Obama's reign, the jobs created and participation rate showed that the reason for that was not overall positive. Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

   DifferentialEquation 2 days ago#98 KazumaKiryu posted... DifferentialEquation posted... MacDaMurderer posted...  show hidden quote(s) The policies of Democrats are what held black people down in the first place. These bad policies often lead to higher rates of poverty in black communities, which in turns leads to more crime. That doesn't mean that the police are somehow evil for arresting black people who do commit crimes like Obama would have you believe. The police didn't put the policies in place that led to black neighborhoods having higher rates of poverty. Yep and what we're going to see as more people get back to work is that the crime statistics go down. It's all connected, folks. Liberals also don't understand the long term effects this will have. Lower unemployment will lead to less poverty. This leads to less crime which will make the neighborhoods safer. This means we'll start seeing better teachers in these neighborhoods which means the kids in these neighborhoods will have better chances at success in life. Not to mention divorce rates will also decrease since money problems, which will now be lessened, is a big cause of divorce. This will ultimately lead to a big increase in wealth for all the back families who have, for generations, been completely shit on by intrusive and overbearing Democratic policies. The future is really looking bright for all of is. It's going to be great for businesses. It's going to be especially great for black people. Liberals are butthurt to see Trump solving problems that Obama couldn't and I'm loving every minute of it. There's no business to be taxed. (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   The Great Muta 22 2 days ago#99 KazumaKiryu posted... How do you say shit like this and take yourself seriously? Nobody ever claimed the jobs numbers were fake. https://goo.gl/9skgc4 “Unemployment rate only dropped because more people are out of labor force & have stopped looking for work. Not a real recovery, phony numbers” “Unemployment is a totally phony number.” “Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it.” “I hear 5.3 percent unemployment, that is the biggest joke there is in this country. That number is so false.” “The number is not reflective. I have seen numbers of 24 percent. I saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. … That number is so false.” “The numbers are phony. These are all phony numbers. Numbers given to politicians to look good. These are phony numbers.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 reportquote

   KazumaKiryu (Topic Creator)2 days ago#100 The Great Muta 22 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... How do you say shit like this and take yourself seriously? Nobody ever claimed the jobs numbers were fake. https://goo.gl/9skgc4 “Unemployment rate only dropped because more people are out of labor force & have stopped looking for work. Not a real recovery, phony numbers” Huh, it's like you didn't read any of my post. Read this and fucking educate yourself. The real unemployment rate is much higher than what is reported in the main numbers. I don't know how many times I have to explain this. https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-real-unemployment-rate-3306198 Just your bad luck... to run into me. reportquote

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      Balrog0 2 days ago#101 KazumaKiryu posted... You also have to look at jobs created and the workforce participation rate. While the unemployment number went down during Obama's reign, the jobs created and participation rate showed that the reason for that was not overall positive. What do you mean? He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

      ChaoticKnuckles 2 days ago#102 Balrog0 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... You also have to look at jobs created and the workforce participation rate. While the unemployment number went down during Obama's reign, the jobs created and participation rate showed that the reason for that was not overall positive. What do you mean? Obama BAD. Trump GOOD. You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. reportquote

      The Admiral 2 days ago#103 This is great news. If it upsets anyone because it hurts their narrative, tough shit. - The Admiral reportquote

      WalkingLobsters  insult labor7 hours ago#104 Wrong. http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears reportquote

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