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Saturday, June 16, 2018

Racism at Harvard Exposed: Asian-Americans given low personal ratings

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Sativa_Rose 22 hours ago#1
Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” according to an analysis of more than 160,000 student records filed Friday by a group representing Asian-American students in a lawsuit against the university.

Asian-Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic group on admissions measures like test scores, grades and extracurricular activities, according to the analysis commissioned by a group that opposes all race-based admissions criteria. But the students’ personal ratings significantly dragged down their chances of being admitted, the analysis found.

The court documents, filed in federal court in Boston, also showed that Harvard conducted an internal investigation into its admissions policies in 2013 and found a bias against Asian-American applicants. But Harvard never made the findings public or acted on them.

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Alumni interviewers give Asian-Americans personal ratings comparable to those of whites. But the admissions office gives them the worst scores of any racial group, often without even meeting them, according to Prof. Arcidiacono.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/harvard-asian-enrollment-applicants.html

Holy shit. This is groundbreaking, especially the part where it was revealed that Harvard conducted an internal interview and found out that they were discriminating against Asians, and then proceeded to cover it up and continue its racist policies.

Harvard University as an institution has proven itself to have absolutely zero integrity. I am ashamed that a university like this is considered "prestigious" to begin with.
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Awesome 22 hours ago#2
liberals are racist, this isnt surprising
GhettoFlip 22 hours ago#3
Sativa_Rose posted...
Harvard University as an institution has proven itself to have absolutely zero integrity. I am ashamed that a university like this is considered "prestigious" to begin with.


why is prestigious in quotes?
#linning
Squall28 22 hours ago#4
Sativa_Rose posted...
, often without even meeting them,


How does that work?
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KamenRiderBlade 22 hours ago#5
As an Asian American myself, it's not surprising that this is happening.

It's sad that it's taken this long to bring it to light.
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ModLogic 22 hours ago#6
CE - "its ok asians arent on the BMT list. relax. our motto is only tolerate what you must."
KStateKing17 22 hours ago#7
I'm not really surprised. Even in the broke neighborhoods the asians with similar cultures keep to themselves a lot. It's more in the 1st and 2nd generations though.
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Frostshock 22 hours ago#8
Well when you use affirmative action to boost admission rates for people below the bar, you need to make some cuts from above. I thought all the liberals knew that.
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DarkTransient 22 hours ago#10
Awesome posted...
liberals are racist, this isnt surprising
Rob Cesternino 22 hours ago#11
DarkTransient posted...
Awesome posted...
liberals are racist, this isnt surprising
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FLUFFYGERM 22 hours ago#12
you cant be racist against whites or asians
Do good.
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Sexypwnstar 22 hours ago#13
Junkratprime03 posted...
Maybe I am racist, then? but it's just asian people so who cares lol


Yes you are, and it's shameful that you had to go on an alt to post this
LightHawKnight 21 hours ago#14
The world would burn if it was anything other than asians or even whites wouldn't it?
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FrisbeeDude  attack always21 hours ago#15
LightHawKnight posted...
The world would burn if it was anything other than asians or even whites wouldn't it?


No, because those who are screaming bloody murder about this and suddenly care about racial bias, would explain it away
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Sad_Face 21 hours ago#16
This isn’t surprising, The Asian applicant pool is enormous compared to the other races, so the admissions committee is going to be more selective regarding them, even though they still will hold a sizable percentage of the incoming class race statistics. If the admissions committee doesn’t discriminate, the incoming class will be mostly Asian by a large margin.
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_wwKd_ 21 hours ago#17
Americans are afraid of everything.

Oh my lawwwdd minorities taking our jobs!!

Oh nooesss theyre overflowing our education system because they're too gooodd!!
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Superlinkbro 21 hours ago#18
Wow. Coming from "One of the best and hardest schools to get into".
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ElatedVenusaur 21 hours ago#19
More proof the Ivies are utterly unworthy of their reputation.
Esrac 21 hours ago#20
So, they're either racist against asians or they automatically score them lower on personal ratings to make up for their higher academic ratings. Otherwise, they wouldn't have anything to justify discriminating against the asian applicants for less qualified applicants who didn't do as well academically.
Flockaveli 21 hours ago#21
What’s so good about Harvard anyway?
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Prestoff 21 hours ago#22
If they want to implement AA, they should do it base off from income, not race.
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Sad_Face 19 hours ago#23
Prestoff posted...
If they want to implement AA, they should do it base off from income, not race.


This is a very good idea.
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Harvard has 2x choices:

Keep their Racist Admission Systems, but take ZERO Government money.

Or Open up a Truly Fair, Equal Opportunity System to all who can apply and meet the minimum UNIVERSAL Academic Standard if they want Government Money.
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USAUSAUSA 17 hours ago#25
KamenRiderBlade posted...
As an Asian American myself, it's not surprising that this is happening.

It's sad that it's taken this long to bring it to light.
Sativa_Rose 16 hours ago#26
Sad_Face posted...
Prestoff posted...
If they want to implement AA, they should do it base off from income, not race.


This is a very good idea.


I would definitely support this over the current system
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FrisbeeDude  attack always16 hours ago#27
When blacks/Hispanics accuse institutions of systemic bias: stop playing the race card! My family moved here from (insert country) and had to work their asses off. They didnt use discrimination as an accuse 

Asians and whites accuse institutions of systemic bias: This grave misjustice must be corrected

Lmao America gonna America
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FrisbeeDude posted...
When blacks/Hispanics accuse institutions of systemic bias: stop playing the race card! My family moved here from (insert country) and had to work their asses off. They didnt use discrimination as an accuse 

Asians and whites accuse institutions of systemic bias: This grave misjustice must be corrected

Lmao America gonna America
But in this case, there is actual systemic bias that is provable.

And I've had a few Mexican friends who made it to Ivy Leagues on raw Academic Talent alone.

So it's not racial bias, it's how hard you work.

Something every child in school needs reinforcement on.
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FLUFFYGERM 16 hours ago#29
FrisbeeDude posted...
When blacks/Hispanics accuse institutions of systemic bias: stop playing the race card! My family moved here from (insert country) and had to work their asses off. They didnt use discrimination as an accuse 

Asians and whites accuse institutions of systemic bias: This grave misjustice must be corrected

Lmao America gonna America


You are a hypocrite too.

When this happens to Asians and whites, it's not racism.

When it happens to anyone else, it's racism.

Etc
Do good.
Eat communists.
KStateKing17 11 hours ago#30
Sativa_Rose posted...
Sad_Face posted...
Prestoff posted...
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This is a very good idea.


I would definitely support this over the current system
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_MorningStar 11 hours ago#31
For the love of God dont feed that racist troll Frisbee.
oskman888 9 hours ago#32
Liberals have treated Asians as Schrodinger's PoC for awhile, now. This is really nothing new.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
you cant be racist against whites or asians

Only half of that is true.
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USAUSAUSA 8 hours ago#34
Asians should vote Republican, or at least for anyone who isn't a Democrat.
awesome999 7 hours ago#35
KamenRiderBlade posted...
As an Asian American myself, it's not surprising that this is happening.

It's sad that it's taken this long to bring it to light.

^

TheRealDill2000 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
you cant be racist against whites or asians

Only half of that is true.

gr8 victim complex m8 I r8 8/8
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Highwind07 7 hours ago#36
I knew about the Asian bias for a while. Go to a state school instead, they are much cheaper and usually closer to home anyway if you are in a college town or at least in the same state. It is all about connections and internships in college and any place can offer those.
Annihilated 7 hours ago#37
This happens in EVERY school or workplace where affirmative action is a thing.
tennisdude818 7 hours ago#38
This is what equality of outcome looks like: leftists torpedoing applications based on skin color.

Must be because Asians have all that “white privilege” that leftists are so certain exists.
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Flockaveli 7 hours ago#39
Highwind07 posted...
I knew about the Asian bias for a while. Go to a state school instead, they are much cheaper and usually closer to home anyway if you are in a college town or at least in the same state. It is all about connections and internships in college and any place can offer those.

Exactly, and like I said before, what’s so good about Harvard anyway? Hard to establish these connections and internships when the higher ups only look out for the legacy students.
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NeonOctopus 7 hours ago#40
So basically they're reducing the number of asian chicks at their college!? This is truly the most heinous of crimes!
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Squall28 7 hours ago#41
I'm borrowing this from USAUSAUSA in the other topic because it showcases something.



Look at how Harold just tries to avoid trouble and says just do what he says. It' a comedy, but it shows something that really deep in Asian culture. Asians in general rather just suffer through stuff like this than stir up conflict. It really set Asians back in terms of anti-racism. You are pretty much free to be racist against Asians. It's crazy.
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USAUSAUSA 6 hours ago#42
Flockaveli 6 hours ago#43
NeonOctopus posted...
So basically they're reducing the number of asian chicks at their college!? This is truly the most heinous of crimes!

Anyone but the Asian babes, man!
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FrisbeeDude  attack always5 hours ago#44
When the same people crying about this start demanding equal funding and quality of staff for urban grade school education, maybe we will start to care. As it stands now, black people are starting the race to college with a ball chain on their ankle, so I'm not gonna lose sleep if they get a bump during college admission process
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USAUSAUSA 5 hours ago#45
FrisbeeDude posted...
When the same people crying about this start demanding equal funding and quality of staff for urban grade school education, maybe we will start to care. As it stands now, black people are starting the race to college with a ball chain on their ankle, so I'm not gonna lose sleep if they get a bump during college admission process


We'll care as much as Black people have ever cared about racism against Asians.
Milkman5 5 hours ago#46
No shit. People have been saying this for 20 years.

Colleges are a racist disaster
PanzerElite 5 hours ago#47
Racism against whites and Asians is usually dismissed. Why is this?
What the goodness?!
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ToPoPO 5 hours ago#48
PanzerElite posted...
Racism against whites and Asians is usually dismissed. Why is this?


Asians have been constantly complaining about it for a long time, and frisbee just dismisses it like it's the first time
FrisbeeDude  attack always5 hours ago#49
It's all of sudden a racist institution when Becky doesn't get into the university of texas lmao
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FrisbeeDude  attack always5 hours ago#50
ToPoPO posted...
PanzerElite posted...
Racism against whites and Asians is usually dismissed. Why is this?


Asians have been constantly complaining about it for a long time, and frisbee just dismisses it like it's the first time


I eyeroll, because the same people who complain about this refuse to acknowledge the unequal playing field in primary education or worse, believe that inequality is irrelevant
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    Sativa_Rose posted...
    Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” according to an analysis of more than 160,000 student records filed Friday by a group representing Asian-American students in a lawsuit against the university.


    It seems kind of dumb to rate them on these categories anyways.
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    USAUSAUSA 6 hours ago#52
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    ToPoPO posted...
    PanzerElite posted...
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    Asians have been constantly complaining about it for a long time, and frisbee just dismisses it like it's the first time


    I eyeroll, because the same people who complain about this refuse to acknowledge the unequal playing field in primary education or worse, believe that inequality is irrelevant


    Here, let me help out:

    awesome999 6 hours ago#53
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    ToPoPO posted...
    PanzerElite posted...
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    Asians have been constantly complaining about it for a long time, and frisbee just dismisses it like it's the first time


    I eyeroll, because the same people who complain about this refuse to acknowledge the unequal playing field in primary education or worse, believe that inequality is irrelevant

    "It's okay for colleges to be racist against Asians because blacks have it the worst and it's only fair!"
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    FrisbeeDude  attack always6 hours ago#54
    USAUSAUSA posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    When the same people crying about this start demanding equal funding and quality of staff for urban grade school education, maybe we will start to care. As it stands now, black people are starting the race to college with a ball chain on their ankle, so I'm not gonna lose sleep if they get a bump during college admission process


    We'll care as much as Black people have ever cared about racism against Asians.


    You mean the group that historically, has had a very well documented racist attitude towards us and primarily only deals with our communities when they can make money off of them?
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    FrisbeeDude  attack always6 hours ago#55
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    ToPoPO posted...
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    I eyeroll, because the same people who complain about this refuse to acknowledge the unequal playing field in primary education or worse, believe that inequality is irrelevant

    "It's okay for colleges to be racist against Asians because blacks have it the worst and it's only fair!"


    Why is the bar for racism always so low when blacks are the alleged victims of it? 

    "Stop playing the race card! Also, colleges are very racists towards asians! This must end!"
    If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me
    Highwind07 6 hours ago#56
    Flockaveli posted...
    Highwind07 posted...
    I knew about the Asian bias for a while. Go to a state school instead, they are much cheaper and usually closer to home anyway if you are in a college town or at least in the same state. It is all about connections and internships in college and any place can offer those.

    Exactly, and like I said before, what’s so good about Harvard anyway? Hard to establish these connections and internships when the higher ups only look out for the legacy students.


    Yea, and with state schools you'll mostly run into people of your own social-economic status anyway as well. 

    I was pretty upset when my brother didn't make it into Columbia or MIT even though he had a 4.5 GPA, lots of extracurricular activities from band, robotics, physics club, as well as have participated and won multiple state and national competitions. It was highly upsetting because I thought that they would consider that to be top school material.

    He got into UF pretty easily compared to those schools and even got a mostly full ride.
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
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    "It's okay for colleges to be racist against Asians because blacks have it the worst and it's only fair!"


    Why is the bar for racism always so low when blacks are the alleged victims of it? 

    "Stop playing the race card! Also, colleges are very racists towards asians! This must end!"


    Probably because any time anything bad befalls a black person the left insist that it must be racism. The cashier at the store was rude to a black person? Must be racism. A black person's car got damaged in a hail storm? Must be racism. The airport lost a black guy's luggage? Must be racism.

    Whereas racism against Asians is usually only brought up when there's actually some evidence to support it.
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    Highwind07 5 hours ago#58
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
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    "It's okay for colleges to be racist against Asians because blacks have it the worst and it's only fair!"


    Why is the bar for racism always so low when blacks are the alleged victims of it? 

    "Stop playing the race card! Also, colleges are very racists towards asians! This must end!"


    Black struggles have been the most prevalent in the media and widely acknowledged more than any other minority so far. When was the last time that you have heard of Asian discrimination other than for colleges? there are MORE than that but hardly anyone talk about it compared to Blacks.
    awesome999 5 hours ago#59
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
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    "It's okay for colleges to be racist against Asians because blacks have it the worst and it's only fair!"


    Why is the bar for racism always so low when blacks are the alleged victims of it? 

    "Stop playing the race card! Also, colleges are very racists towards asians! This must end!"

    It is common knowledge that black people play the race card way too often while Asians are generally silent victims

    And colleges should stop all preferential treatment based on anything except academic achievements and merit. Not race, not wealth, not anything else. Equal opportunity, not equal outcome

    So what if it's unfair. This is real life
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
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    awesome999 posted...
    So what if it's unfair. This is real life. Grow up

    Said with zero sense of self-awareness
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    Roshon 5 hours ago#61
    Asian Americans do not speak up and fight for themselves. 

    It’s night and day between them and black Americans who have had many successful movements to work towards change.

    Asian Americans are just too quiet. Speak up, let it be known that this isn’t okay, hold protests and start movements. Enough of hiding in the background.
    awesome999 5 hours ago#62
    MacadamianNut3 posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    So what if it's unfair. This is real life. Grow up

    Said with zero sense of self-awareness

    awesome999 posted...
    Equal opportunity, not equal outcome

    The problem with FrisbeeDude's argument is he's thinking in the perspective of blacks Vs whites and Asians and Latinos and cops and Donald trump and whoever else is "oppressing" then

    The real fight is humans Vs the universe. If we don't send the most qualified and capable people to that fight, we might as well not be trying. Extinction is a very real threat. It might be right around the corner and it doesn't discriminate based on race. Progress is a very real issue too and the higher the efficiency on that, the better

    Ps I hate Donald trump
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    FrisbeeDude  attack always5 hours ago#63
    "Racism against black people is vastly overblown. Racism against asians and whites, however, is totes legit and needs to be eradicated with all the energy we can muster"

    Ok 👌🏾
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    USAUSAUSA 5 hours ago#64
    Roshon posted...
    Asian Americans do not speak up and fight for themselves. 

    It’s night and day between them and black Americans who have had many successful movements to work towards change.

    Asian Americans are just too quiet. Speak up, let it be known that this isn’t okay, hold protests and start movements. Enough of hiding in the background.


    Literally a whole topic of Asians speaking out ITT.
    awesome999 5 hours ago#65
    USAUSAUSA posted...
    Roshon posted...
    Asian Americans do not speak up and fight for themselves. 

    It’s night and day between them and black Americans who have had many successful movements to work towards change.

    Asian Americans are just too quiet. Speak up, let it be known that this isn’t okay, hold protests and start movements. Enough of hiding in the background.


    Literally a whole topic of Asians speaking out ITT.

    On a internet message board made for nerds which, let's be honest, maybe 50 people visit regularly

    More needs to be done
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    awesome999 5 hours ago#66
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    "Racism against black people is vastly overblown. Racism against asians and whites, however is totes legit and needs to be eradicated with the energy we can muster"

    Ok 👌🏾

    Never said that. Stop twisting my words

    I said all racism is bad. Against everyone, including Asians. The day someone beats me academically is the day I would gladly give up my scholarship, I don't care if they're a 14 year old black Jew girl. Until then, don't you dare claim you deserve something that I earned
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    FrisbeeDude  attack always5 hours ago#67
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    "Racism against black people is vastly overblown. Racism against asians and whites, however is totes legit and needs to be eradicated with the energy we can muster"

    Ok 👌🏾

    Never said that. Stop twisting my words

    I said all racism is bad. Against everyone, including Asians. The day someone beats me academically is the day I would gladly give up my scholarship, I don't care if they're a 14 year old black Jew girl. Until then, don't you dare claim you deserve something that I earned


    That's nice. We are gonna look at the factors that led that to that 14 year old black girl jew getting a higher score. Why are the people obsessed with equality in the college admission process often church mice on inequality in primary education?
    If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me
    awesome999 5 hours ago#68
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    FrisbeeDude posted...
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    Never said that. Stop twisting my words

    I said all racism is bad. Against everyone, including Asians. The day someone beats me academically is the day I would gladly give up my scholarship, I don't care if they're a 14 year old black Jew girl. Until then, don't you dare claim you deserve something that I earned


    That's nice. We are gonna look at the factors that led that to that 14 year old black girl jew getting a higher score. Why are the people obsessed with equality in the college admission process often church mice on inequality in primary education?

    could've

    I bet I could've won a Nobel prize in physics if my parents pushed me to pursue physics instead of engineering

    My environment did not push me towards a Nobel physics prize but I'm totally capable of it and if I moved to America, I'd be a minority so I demand a Nobel physics prize
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    southcoast09 5 hours ago#69
    Affirmative action has become racism.
    Stand for the anthem or sit for the game!
    awesome999 5 hours ago#70
    I bet frisbee is this kind of dude

    https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/racism-college-admissions-college-protests/

    This brings us to the Cornell University's Black Students United and whether the organization is engaging in racism — against blacks. The BSU complains that the prestigious Ivy League school admits too many blacks — from Africa and the Caribbean. "We demand that Cornell Admissions to come up with a plan to actively increase the presence of underrepresented Black students on this campus," the BSU student group said in its demands. "We define underrepresented Black students as Black Americans who have several generations (more than two) in this country."
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    soulunison2 5 hours ago#71
    awesome999 posted...
    MacadamianNut3 posted...
    awesome999 posted...
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    Said with zero sense of self-awareness

    awesome999 posted...
    Equal opportunity, not equal outcome

    The problem with FrisbeeDude's argument is he's thinking in the perspective of blacks Vs whites and Asians and Latinos and cops and Donald trump and whoever else is "oppressing" then

    The real fight is humans Vs the universe. If we don't send the most qualified and capable people to that fight, we might as well not be trying. Extinction is a very real threat. It might be right around the corner and it doesn't discriminate based on race. Progress is a very real issue too and the higher the efficiency on that, the better

    Ps I hate Donald trump


    Lmao look at this white privilege
    awesome999 5 hours ago#72
    soulunison2 posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    MacadamianNut3 posted...
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    awesome999 posted...
     show hidden quote(s)

    The problem with FrisbeeDude's argument is he's thinking in the perspective of blacks Vs whites and Asians and Latinos and cops and Donald trump and whoever else is "oppressing" then

    The real fight is humans Vs the universe. If we don't send the most qualified and capable people to that fight, we might as well not be trying. Extinction is a very real threat. It might be right around the corner and it doesn't discriminate based on race. Progress is a very real issue too and the higher the efficiency on that, the better

    Ps I hate Donald trump


    Lmao look at this white privilege

    Not white, not living in America

    Try again. And put a real argument forward this time

    southcoast09 posted...
    Affirmative action has become racism.

    It by definition is

    If you choose a less qualified person over a more qualified person because of their race, it's textbook racism
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    tennisdude818 5 hours ago#73
    Now that the "white privilege" card is no longer applicable, leftists have turned towards using shitty and inefficient government schooling as an excuse to cheese admissions and discriminate by race. Very clever. If failure from the public sector is going to be your excuse for AA, you are going to be able to keep AA going forever.
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    Bloodychess 5 hours ago#74
    southcoast09 posted...
    Affirmative action has become racism.

    Has it ever not been
    To err is human
    To arr is pirate
    awesome999 5 hours ago#75
    @FrisbeeDude @MacadamianNut3 @southcoast09 

    I have to ask, what do you guys think of first, second and third wave feminism?
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    awesome999 posted...
    I bet frisbee is this kind of dude

    https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/racism-college-admissions-college-protests/

    This brings us to the Cornell University's Black Students United and whether the organization is engaging in racism — against blacks. The BSU complains that the prestigious Ivy League school admits too many blacks — from Africa and the Caribbean. "We demand that Cornell Admissions to come up with a plan to actively increase the presence of underrepresented Black students on this campus," the BSU student group said in its demands. "We define underrepresented Black students as Black Americans who have several generations (more than two) in this country."

    I don't see an issue with their intent.
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    BignutzisBack 5 hours ago#77
    Awesome posted...
    liberals are racist, this isnt surprising


    Seriously, first they hate Jewish people and now they're doing it to Asian people as well.
    southcoast09 5 hours ago#78
    Well, affirmative action was created for a reason (quite some time ago). They used to openly not hire people for the color of their skin. The remedy, to the left, is to do the EXACT same thing, just reverse the rolls. 

    It should be a crime to refuse to hire somebody for skin color, but employers should be allowed to hire the most qualified candidates. We are not in a position, as a nation, to accept anything less than 110%.
    Stand for the anthem or sit for the game!
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    awesome999 5 hours ago#79
    TheRealDill2000 posted...
    awesome999 posted...
    I bet frisbee is this kind of dude

    https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/racism-college-admissions-college-protests/

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    I don't see an issue with their intent.

    Of course you don't. Conflict within the black community just helps your cause
    When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk
    I don't know what these waves are nor do I care enough to Google it

    Don't tag me with bullshit irrelevant to the topic because I questioned the logic of you saying "so what if it's unfair, that's real life" in a topic where you're arguing against discrimination. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure discrimination is also unfair part of "real life" and has been ever since one caveman looked at another one and realized "hey this person isn't a clone of me and isn't part of my circle"

    And das it mane
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    Highwind07 4 hours ago#81
    I do sympathize with the problem of primary education and its lacking of funding and effort in inner city schools that are predominantly Black that causes them to not get the education that they needed compared to other schools with better funding. 

    I just hate that people are bringing up "but what about other minorities lol lol" in the same sense that an issue about women and exclusively about women has people bringing up "but what about men" in this topic. Keep in mind that success is in our culture and it is especially hard on us when we're still first or second generation because it means everything. Not all Asians are rich just the same as not all Whites are rich.
    awesome999 posted...
    TheRealDill2000 posted...
    awesome999 posted... 
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    I don't see an issue with their intent.

    Of course you don't. Conflict within the black community just helps your cause

    That doesn't make any sense. How do I benefit from that sort of conflict? 

    We should be more focused on helping the people who have been here for generations and don't see a clear path to a better life.
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    Not sure about some of the other Ivy League schools...but both Harvard and Yale are well-known for being extremely fucked as far as who they choose to admit, especially for undergrad. There was a girl at my high school who basically was 100% admitted to Harvard because her family had a history with them as far as being alums and due to giving big amounts of money to the university. She was an average student at best.
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    Sad_Face posted...
    This isn’t surprising, The Asian applicant pool is enormous compared to the other races, so the admissions committee is going to be more selective regarding them, even though they still will hold a sizable percentage of the incoming class race statistics. If the admissions committee doesn’t discriminate, the incoming class will be mostly Asian by a large margin.

    Yet they do jack shit against white americans and jews.
    shut up and take my money
    Highwind07 40 minutes ago#85
    masticatingman posted...
    Not sure about some of the other Ivy League schools...but both Harvard and Yale are well-known for being extremely fucked as far as who they choose to admit, especially for undergrad. There was a girl at my high school who basically was 100% admitted to Harvard because her family had a history with them as far as being alums and due to giving big amounts of money to the university. She was an average student at best.


    Reminds me of this article that I read about JFK's letter to Harvard being pretty bare bones but he got in mostly because he was rich and that his father was also a Harvard graduate as well.
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