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After a controversial call by the U.S. Open chair umpire contributed to her defeat in Saturday's women's title match, Serena Williams asserted that tennis has different standards for men and women.
Williams, 36, on Saturday suffered a swift 6-2, 6-4 loss to Naomi Osaka, who became the tournament's first female Japanese champion. It happened after Williams, a 23-time Grand Slam singles champion, appeared to be thrown off her game -- after being penalized in the second set because of three separate game violations. Williams got the first violation from umpire Carlos Ramos, who ruled that Williams received coaching earlier in the set; she told him she'd "rather lose" than cheat. “I didn’t get coaching,” Williams said multiple times. “I don’t cheat! I didn’t get coaching. How can you say that? You owe me an apology. I have never cheated in my life!” She was given a second violation for smashing her racquet, and again yelled at the chair umpire who had given her the first warning. “You are attacking my character,” she continued. “You will never ever ever be on another court of mine as long as you live.” Her third violation came after she called the umpire a “thief,” leading to the automatic loss of a game. “You stole a point from me; you’re a thief, too,” she insisted. The umpire instantly awarded a game to Osaka, citing a “verbal abuse call” against Williams. It was at this point that Williams sought out the referee and argued that the harsh call had been made because of her gender. “Do you know how many other men do things that are much worse than that? This is not fair. There’s a lot of men out here that have said a lot of things, and because they are men, that doesn’t happen to them,” she said to the referee. “There are men out here that do a lot worse but because I’m a woman, because I’m a woman you’re going to take this away from me? That is not right.” Williams stood by her performance at the post-match news conference, saying: “I’ve seen other men call other umpires several things and I’m here fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality.” Later Saturday, Williams received some support in the form of tweets from tennis legend Billie Jean King. "Several things went very wrong during the @usopen Women’s Finals today," King wrote. "Coaching on every point should be allowed in tennis. It isn’t, and as a result, a player was penalized for the actions of her coach. This should not happen. "When a woman is emotional, she’s “hysterical” and she’s penalized for it," King continued. "When a man does the same, he’s “outspoken” & and there are no repercussions. Thank you, @serenawilliams, for calling out this double standard. More voices are needed to do the same." Williams’ coach, Patrick Mouratoglou, later admitted to an ESPN reported that “I was coaching.” “I’m honest, I was coaching. I mean I don’t think she looked at me so that’s why she didn’t even think I was but I was like 100 percent of the coaches on [sic] 100 percent of the matches.” He said that he believes that rules like this “are killing tennis.” “I have always said it. … Not to allow the players to express their feelings is stupid, I mean it’s not a big deal breaking racquets.” Williams said later at the press conference: “I don’t need to cheat to win. I’ve won enough. That’s never been something I’ve ever done, you know.” Full ARticle: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/09/09/serena-williams-accuses-umpire-sexism-in-us-open-loss.html Sounds like a sore loser to me. The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know? Maybe next time just don't cheat rather than complain men get away with cheating. 'It's not a big deal breaking rackets' fuck you Patrick, be a profressional. These are athletes not children
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sounds like a sore loser to me. The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know? Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share |
What is ‘coaching’ in this context and why is it against the rules?
What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her. Is she gon get a Nike deal too?
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should have played the race card too
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is ‘coaching’ in this context and why is it against the rules? they're not allowed to get advice between serves |
ModLogic posted...
should have played the race card too Serena is like THE POSTERCHILD for greatness being met with skepticism and doubt, massive criticism BECAUSE OF HER RACE PEOPLE MARIA SHARAPOVA HAS BEEN IRRELEVANT FOR A DECADE YET HER NAME IS STILL BROUGHT UP STILL BROUGHT UP NEXT TO SERENA WILLIAMS' WHY You know why |
ModLogic posted...
should have played the race card too Not only is the chick who beat her female. But the chick who beat her is also a minority. So these victim cards are kinda hilarious and are very transparent. She's just a sore loser who has never been told "no" in her life. She's like a grown up Angelica Pickles
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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ManBeast462 posted...
Is she gon get a Nike deal too? also holy thinly veiled racism batman Are you this ignorant that you don't even know Serena Williams is one of Nike's BIGGEST endorsements ROFL |
UnfairRepresent posted...
But the chick who beat her is also a minority. asians arent on the SJW bare minimum tolerance list tho. |
Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know? Sure does. She's claiming sexism yet her opponent suffered under the same rules and won fair and square because she didn't cheat. Can't explain that
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She's claiming sexism yet her opponent suffered under the same rules and won fair and square because she didn't cheat. YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share you haven't answered my question, not directly at least |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...show hidden quote(s) No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire. Now, I don't know if the umpire's decision was actually motivated by her sex or not, but it certainly has nothing to do with the fact that both players were women. |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Exactly. Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square. YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share please respond |
Foppe posted...
If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match? Because he thinks it shouldn't be cheating, therefore it's okay to cheat. Same as if a racer cut a corner because she thought it shouldn't be cheating. Then blaming sexism when she's penalized
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted... And it still has nothing to do with what she's talking about when she accuses the umpire of sexism. |
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square. |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted... You really don't ever know what you are talking about huh? |
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UnfairRepresent posted...You're like, trying to rationalize with UnfairRepresent here :PDragonblade01 posted...show hidden quote(s)
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Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Dragonblade01 posted...show hidden quote(s) "You're sexist but not against women, only against me when I cheat." Ok.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match? But she didnt cheat. And men have said worse things on matches without losing sets.
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UnfairRepresent posted...Foppe posted...show hidden quote(s) she only lost a game. and it was because it was her 3rd violation
Started from the bottom now we here
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...show hidden quote(s) Read the sentence right before the one that you bolded. |
oh man UR is reaaally trolling us here so BAD
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Foppe posted...
"She didn't cheat because I can think of a guy who got away with cheating." Ok... I guess sexism is also why Armstrong got discredited despite other people doing the same thing, not because he was cheating
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is ‘coaching’ in this context and why is it against the rules? Her coach actually admitted to coaching during the match in an interview afterwards, he claimed everyone else did it but rarely got called out on it. Serena outright lied claiming he just gave her a thumbs up which it has been proven he didn't. She cost herself the match by acting like a prima donna. A match she would have likely lost anyways seeing as how the same girl smacked her around 6-2 in the first set and also beat her in their previous match.
How can one person post so much stupid s***?
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remember when serena had a meltdown a long time ago and said shed shove the tennis ball down a line judges throat? shes a thug.
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is ‘coaching’ in this context and why is it against the rules? tbh if i gotta lose to anyone i'd rather it be an asian |
She literally would have lost anyway. Naomi had her number big time.
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"Guyz, I have to justify somehow why I lost so bad to a no-name Asian gurl!" ~Serena Williams
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I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>
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NeonOctopus posted...I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____> Eh, too lazy. |
can anybody say ANYTHING without shit being intentionally misconstrued by people with no integrity? it's not even a reading comprehension issue. this is deliberate fuckery, lolololol.
no matter what, if people want to see you fall, they'll pull every piece of fiction out of their ass to create a new storyline. Serena's argument is that it's more acceptable for a male athlete to go off.. which is true. when she(a woman) goes off, she feels it's responded to more harshly. and she feels like her character was attacked by the cheating implications she felt. it's an argument that's got nothing to do with Naomi's performance. or military vets.
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i like how tc only recognizes half of her race. she's also Haitian.
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i like how tc only recognizes half of her race. she's also Haitian. Haitian is a race? |
She lost to a woman because she was a woman? lolwat
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Dragonblade01 posted...
NeonOctopus posted...I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____> So she's resorting to whataboutism.
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...NeonOctopus posted...show hidden quote(s) Basically. Serena's always had a bit of an unruly temper. But the point is that she's not claiming sexism based on anything about her opponent. She's claiming something is sexism by saying that the same situation would have been handled differently if it were a male tennis player. |
NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____> She's claiming that her cheating would be excused if she had a dick and that the umpire is biased against women by enforcing the rules
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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MabusIncarnate posted...No, she got outplayed, dominated even. Regardless of the call at hand, she got her ass whooped on the court by the better competitor. She's being a crybaby because she got fat and old.
She lost by disqualification
If she lost from playing, I doubt she'd be so talkative
Serena has been nothing but classy when losing to her competition - when she lost to Sloane Stephens in 2017 there was no excuses, it was all class. She actually decides to speak up about her umpire's latent sexism (and tennis's bougie underlying racism) ONCE and she's just a sore loser? lmfao
like this is what serena is talking about
serena williams is literally one of the most dominant women's tennis players alive
Four years after her last US Open win she's still making it to the final
and she still doesn't get ANY respectYOUHAVENOHOPE posted...MabusIncarnate posted...
No, she got outplayed, dominated even. Regardless of the call at hand, she got her ass whooped on the court by the better competitor. She's being a crybaby because she got fat and old.
She lost by disqualification
If she lost from playing, I doubt she'd be so talkative
Serena has been nothing but classy when losing to her competition - when she lost to Sloane Stephens in 2017 there was no excuses, it was all class
this is how you know when somebody's contempt for a person outweighs common sense and truth.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story!
Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!!MabusIncarnate posted...No, she got outplayed, dominated even. Regardless of the call at hand, she got her ass whooped on the court by the better competitor. She's being a crybaby because she got fat and old.
Didn't she have kids
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
and she still doesn't get ANY respect
They'd respect her more if she stopped cheating and making excuses for losing after cheating.
Most people learned that when they were 3 years old. I'm sure you and her will too one day^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgYOUHAVENOHOPE posted...She lost by disqualification
If she lost from playing, I doubt she'd be so talkative
She wasn't disqualified. She lost 6-2, 6-4. She was outplayed in every category, not to mention that she had 6 double-faults.DirkDiggles posted...YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
She lost by disqualification
If she lost from playing, I doubt she'd be so talkative
She wasn't disqualified. She lost 6-2, 6-4. She was outplayed in every category, not to mention that she had 6 double-faults.Her third violation came after she called the umpire a “thief,” leading to the automatic loss of a game. “You stole a point from me; you’re a thief, too,” she insisted.
The umpire instantly awarded a game to Osaka, citing a “verbal abuse call” against Williams.
okay so it was one game she was penalized to automatically lose
either wayTbf Serena and Venus Williams have faced a lot of shit in tennis over the years.
They made one of them change her sports bra in the middle of the match because the straps started to show last year. As far back as like 15 years ago people were trying to get them dusqualified for having skirts that were too short. They both have a long history of people applying double standards to them.
With that said, I'm not sure it's really motivated by sexism or if it's simply because people don't like them.PSN: Jiek
FFRK: Tyro God Wall KZcvYOUHAVENOHOPE posted...okay so it was one game she was penalized to automatically lose
either way
RickyTheBAWSE posted...this is how you know when somebody's contempt for a person outweighs common sense and truth.
You people didn't read the article, didn't see the game, and don't watch the sport yet you think you're qualified to say anything about this. Absurd.childhood trauma prevents some sort of emotional chemical imbalance that causes u to stalk *****es and player hate over the phone.
Big_Boss63Flamazide posted...You people didn't read the article, didn't see the game, and don't watch the sport yet you think you're qualified to say anything about this. Absurd.
What's funny is the guys who didn't do any of that are the ones saying "OMG you don't even understand!?" and then getting basic details wrong^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgUnfairRepresent posted...Flamazide posted...
You people didn't read the article, didn't see the game, and don't watch the sport yet you think you're qualified to say anything about this. Absurd.
What's funny is the guys who didn't do any of that are the ones saying "OMG you don't even understand!?" and then getting basic details wrong
Okay bro lol.childhood trauma prevents some sort of emotional chemical imbalance that causes u to stalk *****es and player hate over the phone.
Big_Boss63Dragonblade01 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...
The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?
But that has nothing to do with her criticism of the umpire.
But how can it be sexism if both contestants are female?
It could be sexiam because male umpire female contestant, but that dynamic is the same for Osaka.
Sexism can only take place if one contestant is negatively judged based on their gender, but the gender for both contestants is the same.XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - NazanirJiek_Fafn posted...Tbf Serena and Venus Williams have faced a lot of shit in tennis over the years.
They made one of them change her sports bra in the middle of the match because the straps started to show last year. As far back as like 15 years ago people were trying to get them dusqualified for having skirts that were too short. They both have a long history of people applying double standards to them.
With that said, I'm not sure it's really motivated by sexism or if it's simply because people don't like them.
Serena Williams reminds me a bit of tiger woods in this regard.
When they cracked into their sports I was a huge supporter of them. They were met with a lot of racism, double standards and other fucked up things. I wanted them to succeed, I wanted them to be a “haha! In your face, racists!” story.
They succeeded, massively, and I was very happy for them.
But turns out they’re terrible people. Tiger had one of the most beautiful wives I have ever seen her he cheated on her.. dozens of times. With crackwhores. He handled it like shit. He hurt (emotionally) Ellin and was a p**** about it. Then fast forward to 2018 and turns out he is like “respect the presidency! MAGA!! 45 is my homeboy!!”. Screw you, tiger. I hope you never win shit again. After all the racism you faced, how can you embrace the first alt-right president and basically try to play the “I am one of the good ones” card?
Then Serena... oh boy. She gets abusive with umpires. She blames her losses on sexism or some sort of boogeyman and tends to act unsportsmanlike. Turns out she has the patience and manners of a honey badger. By now she feels she is larger than life and she feels she can and should give the Christian Bale treatment to people around her. It was a disgusting spectacle.
It’s so disappointingHawaiian_punch posted...Jiek_Fafn posted...
Tbf Serena and Venus Williams have faced a lot of shit in tennis over the years.
They made one of them change her sports bra in the middle of the match because the straps started to show last year. As far back as like 15 years ago people were trying to get them dusqualified for having skirts that were too short. They both have a long history of people applying double standards to them.
With that said, I'm not sure it's really motivated by sexism or if it's simply because people don't like them.
Serena Williams reminds me a bit of tiger woods in this regard.
When they cracked into their sports I was a huge supporter of them. They were met with a lot of racism, double standards and other fucked up things. I wanted them to succeed, I wanted them to be a “haha! In your face, racists!” story.
They succeeded, massively, and I was very happy for them.
But turns out they’re terrible people. Tiger had one of the most beautiful wives I have ever seen her he cheated on her.. dozens of times. With crackwhores. He handled it like shit. He hurt (emotionally) Ellin and was a p**** about it. Then fast forward to 2018 and turns out he is like “respect the presidency! MAGA!! 45 is my homeboy!!”. Screw you, tiger. I hope you never win shit again. After all the racism you faced, how can you embrace the first alt-right president and basically try to play the “I am one of the good ones” card?
Then Serena... oh boy. She gets abusive with umpires. She blames her losses on sexism or some sort of boogeyman and tends to act unsportsmanlike. Turns out she has the patience and manners of a honey badger. By now she feels she is larger than life and she feels she can and should give the Christian Bale treatment to people around her. It was a disgusting spectacle.
It’s so disappointing
Man...you would not like to meet any athlete, let me to tell you.childhood trauma prevents some sort of emotional chemical imbalance that causes u to stalk *****es and player hate over the phone.
Big_Boss63Hawaiian_punch posted...Jiek_Fafn posted...
Tbf Serena and Venus Williams have faced a lot of shit in tennis over the years.
They made one of them change her sports bra in the middle of the match because the straps started to show last year. As far back as like 15 years ago people were trying to get them dusqualified for having skirts that were too short. They both have a long history of people applying double standards to them.
With that said, I'm not sure it's really motivated by sexism or if it's simply because people don't like them.
Serena Williams reminds me a bit of tiger woods in this regard.
When they cracked into their sports I was a huge supporter of them. They were met with a lot of racism, double standards and other fucked up things. I wanted them to succeed, I wanted them to be a “haha! In your face, racists!” story.
They succeeded, massively, and I was very happy for them.
But turns out they’re terrible people. Tiger had one of the most beautiful wives I have ever seen her he cheated on her.. dozens of times. With crackwhores. He handled it like shit. He hurt (emotionally) Ellin and was a p**** about it. Then fast forward to 2018 and turns out he is like “respect the presidency! MAGA!! 45 is my homeboy!!”. Screw you, tiger. I hope you never win shit again. After all the racism you faced, how can you embrace the first alt-right president and basically try to play the “I am one of the good ones” card?
Then Serena... oh boy. She gets abusive with umpires. She blames her losses on sexism or some sort of boogeyman and tends to act unsportsmanlike. Turns out she has the patience and manners of a honey badger. By now she feels she is larger than life and she feels she can and should give the Christian Bale treatment to people around her. It was a disgusting spectacle.
It’s so disappointing
Difference is Bale admits he was an asshole and has apologized on several occasions
Serena is claiming to be a victim after cheating^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgUnfairRepresent posted...Flamazide posted...
You people didn't read the article, didn't see the game, and don't watch the sport yet you think you're qualified to say anything about this. Absurd.
What's funny is the guys who didn't do any of that are the ones saying "OMG you don't even understand!?" and then getting basic details wrong
Says the guy that keeps calling her a cheater when her main complaint is getting the penalty for yelling at the ump. Yelling at the ump isn't cheating and her own coach said she didn't even see him trying to coach her so get off the ridiculous cheating narrative you're trying to pull.UnfairRepresent posted...Flamazide posted...
You people didn't read the article, didn't see the game, and don't watch the sport yet you think you're qualified to say anything about this. Absurd.
What's funny is the guys who didn't do any of that are the ones saying "OMG you don't even understand!?" and then getting basic details wrong
you know he's talking about you rightNo one should be able to abuse the officials. So, the first call on coaching was correct by the books and she went on tilt. She needs to learn to control her emotions on the court.Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...No one should be able to abuse the officials
Holy shit does nobody actually read these
Her complaint is literally that men are allowed to go on outbursts because that's being passionate and outspoken
but her going on an outburst is "hysteria" and "being a sore loser"
There's a double standard
and I've seen it myself, watching the odd tennis game
It's differentNazanir posted...Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
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But that has nothing to do with her criticism of the umpire.
But how can it be sexism if both contestants are female?
It could be sexiam because male umpire female contestant, but that dynamic is the same for Osaka.
Sexism can only take place if one contestant is negatively judged based on their gender, but the gender for both contestants is the same.
But what she's claiming is that she lost a point/game for unruly conduct when men who do the same things don't lose a point/game.
That's the sexism she claims to have experienced: The difference in how behaviors are punished between female and male tennis players.YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
No one should be able to abuse the officials
Holy shit does nobody actually read these
Her complaint is literally that men are allowed to go on outbursts because that's being passionate and outspoken
but her going on an outburst is "hysteria" and "being a sore loser"
There's a double standard
and I've seen it myself, watching the odd tennis game
It's different
Right, i agree that men should be held to the same standard. Allowing her to abuse the officials isn't okay though. So she rightfully was penalized. That's like getting pulled over for speeding and crying that everyone else was speeding too.Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...Allowing her to abuse the officials isn't okay though. So she rightfully was penalized.
Okay sure
But it'd be nice if they actually followed the standard
I see where you're coming from now, hostility loweredFlamazide posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
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Serena Williams reminds me a bit of tiger woods in this regard.
When they cracked into their sports I was a huge supporter of them. They were met with a lot of racism, double standards and other fucked up things. I wanted them to succeed, I wanted them to be a “haha! In your face, racists!” story.
They succeeded, massively, and I was very happy for them.
But turns out they’re terrible people. Tiger had one of the most beautiful wives I have ever seen her he cheated on her.. dozens of times. With crackwhores. He handled it like shit. He hurt (emotionally) Ellin and was a p**** about it. Then fast forward to 2018 and turns out he is like “respect the presidency! MAGA!! 45 is my homeboy!!”. Screw you, tiger. I hope you never win shit again. After all the racism you faced, how can you embrace the first alt-right president and basically try to play the “I am one of the good ones” card?
Then Serena... oh boy. She gets abusive with umpires. She blames her losses on sexism or some sort of boogeyman and tends to act unsportsmanlike. Turns out she has the patience and manners of a honey badger. By now she feels she is larger than life and she feels she can and should give the Christian Bale treatment to people around her. It was a disgusting spectacle.
It’s so disappointing
Man...you would not like to meet any athlete, let me to tell you.
I know there all assholes. But they keep that in their private spheres. You don’t hear of Lebron either supporting 45 or yelling “you’re a thief!” At the face of a referee. You don’t hear about Michael Jordan whining about racism in basketball or whatever, etc.Hawaiian_punch posted...You don’t hear about Michael Jordan whining about racism in basketball or whatever, etc.
you showed your hand too early
had me going
Also really you chose Michael Jordan as your "but look at these other athletes that aren't terrible" example?
LOL
please tell me more about how you know nothing about sports apparently*Acts like a petulant child because she's tilted that she's getting wrecked*
*Gets penalized*
*b-b-b-but men!!!111*
The absolute state of Serena.The umpire clearly has personal disdain for Williams. In a “normal” course of the game Williams would have been subject to terrible calls and a biased level of officiating compared to the shit we see at the World Cup. And then she could have a heck of a story on how some bobble head looking effeminate fuck stole the game from her because he personally dislikes her, perhaps for being the one black woman (along with her sister) to break into the game.
But instead she made it too easy for him. She smashed her racket, she argued with him several times, insulted him, and had this “sassy diva” attitude. She thought the entire tennis authority body was gonna react like “yasssss queen bey slay!” , but of course it wasn’t to be. She fucked upHawaiian_punch posted...Flamazide posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
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Man...you would not like to meet any athlete, let me to tell you.
I know there all assholes. But they keep that in their private spheres. You don’t hear of Lebron either supporting 45 or yelling “you’re a thief!” At the face of a referee. You don’t hear about Michael Jordan whining about racism in basketball or whatever, etc.
Lol yeah Lebron isn't out here cooning and racism in the NBA isn't as prevalent as it is in Tennis. Serena is right. Also Lebron does argue with the refs. Every athlete does to some effect. It happens a LOT in tennis. They throw temper tantrums to no end but it's accepted. Men do way worse than what Williams did pretty often and no one cares. She speaks out about it and she is a sore loser despite not that matching up to her history at all or even fitting the situation. It's stupid.childhood trauma prevents some sort of emotional chemical imbalance that causes u to stalk *****es and player hate over the phone.
Big_Boss63Hawaiian_punch posted...thought the entire tennis authority body was gonna react like “yasssss queen bey slay!”
holy shit you may as well just come out and say it dudeYOUHAVENOHOPE posted...Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Allowing her to abuse the officials isn't okay though. So she rightfully was penalized.
Okay sure
But it'd be nice if they actually followed the standard
I see where you're coming from now, hostility lowered
Maybe this will force them to try and be more consistent going forward...maybe.
Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...
thought the entire tennis authority body was gonna react like “yasssss queen bey slay!”
holy shit you may as well just come out and say it dude
Yes, she thinks she is Beyoncé and that she has a fandom of blind followers that have elevated her memedom status. She thinks
She can give crazy attitude to people as if she were a memefied popstar, and that tennis officials are as vapid as Beyoncé fans, but that wasn’t to be.
There I said it. It’s not controversialDat_Cracka_Jax posted...YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
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Okay sure
But it'd be nice if they actually followed the standard
I see where you're coming from now, hostility lowered
Maybe this will force them to try and be more consistent going forward...maybe.
Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.
a few years ago?
dude, NFL and NBA players do it literally every game. some of these guys are prone to fines.
if Serena is going years between verbal abuse, it's even more clear how bad her critics are trying to reach.
there would be a lot less "whataboutism" if there was consistency in the judgements though. lack of consistency is why there is suspicion. in a professional sport, the athletes aren't the only professionals...Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story!
Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!!Hawaiian_punch posted...Yes, she thinks she is Beyoncé and that she has a fandom of blind followers that have elevated her memedom status. She thinks
She can give crazy attitude to people as if she were a memefied popstar, and that tennis officials are as vapid as Beyoncé fans, but that wasn’t to be.
There I said it. It’s not controversial
Everyone can tell you don't like black peopleRickyTheBAWSE posted...Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
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Maybe this will force them to try and be more consistent going forward...maybe.
Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.
a few years ago?
dude, NFL and NBA players do it literally every game. some of these guys are prone to fines.
if Serena is going years between verbal abuse, it's even more clear how bad her critics are trying to reach.
Why are you saying it's okay because others do it? It's not okay. Also, a better comparison for tolerance of ref abuse would be comparing NBA to WNBA(lol)YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...
Yes, she thinks she is Beyoncé and that she has a fandom of blind followers that have elevated her memedom status. She thinks
She can give crazy attitude to people as if she were a memefied popstar, and that tennis officials are as vapid as Beyoncé fans, but that wasn’t to be.
There I said it. It’s not controversial
Everyone can tell you don't like black people
Are you fucking kidding me?
Have you read my posts itt? I brought up how tiger and Serena have faced a lot of racism and that it sucks. I said that the umpire probably didn’t like Serena for being black. I even insulted the umpire (I called him and effeminate bobble head looking fuck).
I said I wanted tiger and Serena to be very succesful, especially because of the racism they faced.
Yet you take ONE like I say out of context and pretend that I don’t like black people? You have problems. You need help.
I spend half my time here calling out racists like the admiral or shokan_warrior.RickyTheBAWSE posted...Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
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Maybe this will force them to try and be more consistent going forward...maybe.
Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.
a few years ago?
dude, NFL and NBA players do it literally every game. some of these guys are prone to fines.
if Serena is going years between verbal abuse, it's even more clear how bad her critics are trying to reach.
there would be a lot less "whataboutism" if there was consistency in the judgements though. lack of consistency is why there is suspicion. in a professional sport, the athletes aren't the only professionals...
Yes, tennis reminds me a lot of soccer in this regard. There is definitely an equivalent to the “good old boys club” and the judgements are always very suspect. They’re even more suspect now that technology could correct many of the weird calls that get madeDat_Cracka_Jax posted...RickyTheBAWSE posted...
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a few years ago?
dude, NFL and NBA players do it literally every game. some of these guys are prone to fines.
if Serena is going years between verbal abuse, it's even more clear how bad her critics are trying to reach.
Why are you saying it's okay because others do it? It's not okay. Also, a better comparison for tolerance of ref abuse would be comparing NBA to WNBA(lol)
why are you saying that's what I said when you can't quote the part where I actually said that?
consistency is the issue. in the NBA, it's pretty easy to see what is going to land somebody a technical foul based on the pattern of behaviors that lead to it. whether you be Steph Curry or DeMarcus Cousins. with professional tennis, there is obvious bias.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story!
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Why are you saying it's okay because others do it? It's not okay. Also, a better comparison for tolerance of ref abuse would be comparing NBA to WNBA(lol)
why are you saying that's what I said when you can't quote the part where I actually said that?
consistency is the issue. in the NBA, it's pretty easy to see what is going to land somebody a technical foul based on the pattern of behaviors that lead to it. whether you be Steph Curry or DeMarcus Cousins. with professional tennis, there is obvious bias.
I quoted your whole post. You edited it after the factHawaiian_punch posted...Have you read my posts itt?
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why are you saying that's what I said when you can't quote the part where I actually said that?
consistency is the issue. in the NBA, it's pretty easy to see what is going to land somebody a technical foul based on the pattern of behaviors that lead to it. whether you be Steph Curry or DeMarcus Cousins. with professional tennis, there is obvious bias.
I quoted your whole post. You edited it after the fact
I added, not "changed." even in my original post, you're still putting words in my mouth. so...
feel free point out which part of my edit changed the entire meaning of my post, though.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story!
Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!!How about not slamming your racket after you already had an infraction? That's why she lost the point. Then arguing with the umpire cost her the game. And that's how she would go about losing a match that she would have likely lost anyways. Poor sportsmanship. And I remember watching that match she had against Kim Clijsters. Serena is as soft as Lebron James when the **** hits the fan.
--I wanna be a Hulkamaniac, have fun with my family and friends.Doesn't Nick Kyrgios ruin the sexism claims?
That boy gets in trouble at basically every tournment he's not banned from.
Usually just racket smashing or swearing at himself as well, although he does also do other stuff like giving up and getting into arguments with the crowd.
Don't think Kyrgios has ever been as bad in a single incident as Serena Williams was yesterday though.Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.
Yeah, she got fined after to losing to Clijsters and then warned if she acted out again in the next two years of Grand Slams, she would get a one tournament ban. She would also get some of her fine money back if there were no incidents.
Then she started ranting at a chair umpire when she lost to Stosur, but they decided not to enforce the ban. Obviously, everyone is out to get her and does her no favors.
Her coach ADMITTED to coaching her (albeit playing the "everyone does it" defense). That's one.
She smashed a racquet. It's a penalty for everyone, men and women, anyone who watches tennis will say so. That's two.
Then she ranted at the umpire again. That's three.
The match lasted 79 minutes, even with one game penalty that's fast. Losing a match in 79 minutes is like a 35-14 football score. Not good.Detroit Red Wings
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Plenty of men get penalties for racquet/ball abuse.Detroit Red Wings
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Maybe this will force them to try and be more consistent going forward...maybe.
Somewhat unrelated: Didn't Serena get verbally abusive with a line judge a couple years back too? Even threatened her. She does need to tone it back.
a few years ago?
dude, NFL and NBA players do it literally every game. some of these guys are prone to fines.
if Serena is going years between verbal abuse, it's even more clear how bad her critics are trying to reach.
there would be a lot less "whataboutism" if there was consistency in the judgements though. lack of consistency is why there is suspicion. in a professional sport, the athletes aren't the only professionals...
There are different expectations in tennis. It would be better to compare her rare outbursts of terrible sportsmanship with the nonexistent outbursts from Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic. Well, Djokovic occasionally destroys his racquets and gets penalized but that’s directed at himself."I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas SowellSounds fair tbh. You throw a fit, you get thrown out of the game. In my experience, that's the way it's always been. Gender doesn't factor into it.My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/PrettyBoyFloyd posted...Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Indians don't like each other either.
her opponent was Asian and she didn't cheat or yell at the umpire^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgHawaiian_punch posted...PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Indians don't like each other either.
What’s your point?
I'm figuring that she wouldn't have been as burned up if she had lost to another black player.
Upset, disappointed, then yes.
Not with anger and rage.
Of course I'm analyzing the issue with a biased mind.The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT
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What’s your point?
I'm figuring that she wouldn't have been as burned up if she had lost to another black player.
Upset, disappointed, then yes.
Not with anger and rage.
Of course I'm analyzing the issue with a biased mind.
Not everyone is as racist as you are.childhood trauma prevents some sort of emotional chemical imbalance that causes u to stalk *****es and player hate over the phone.
Big_Boss63thronedfire2 posted...So a coach can’t even talk to their player during a match in tennis? What’s the point of even having one
Women can call for the coach during changeovers (every two games after the first game of a set they change what side of the net they are on).
Also emotional support/cheer them on. When you see a tennis player react, good or bad, it's usually in the direction of their box. The guy who beat Federer was ranting at his box all night. It's why you usually see coaches sit still like statues when they aren't applauding politely, to avoid the penalty.
Watching the match live is also better than limiting the coach to the TV angles, so at practice after or before a match they know what to work on.Detroit Red Wings
http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/108545331.jpgthronedfire2 posted...So a coach can’t even talk to their player during a match in tennis? What’s the point of even having one
They watch and provide feedback after the fact. In the case of men’s tennis, it’s not boxing. It’s truly 1 vs 1 for 3-6 hours. I guess women get to call coaches sometimes."I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell12amMadman posted...Never knew that about the coaching rule, seems odd. Is it like that at all levels? (High school-college)
In high school and college there is coaching. In junior tournaments which are much more competitive than high school there is no coaching. Unless that changed since I was a kid."I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas SowellGetting her old ass dominated by a superior competitor.
Shows zero composure and continually throws a strop midmatch because she can't take losing.
Gets rightfully penalized for her actions.
Whips up the crowd into booing the rightful winner.
Blames her loss on sexism because she knows it's any easy card to play to garner sympathy.
Steals the spotlight from the rightful winner to continue complaining about losing.
Serena just shat all over her legacy with this. What she did to Osaka was fucked up and she should be utterly ashamed of her actions and do something to actually make amends.You can tell a lot about a man by how he strangles you.
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I'm figuring that she wouldn't have been as burned up if she had lost to another black player.
Upset, disappointed, then yes.
Not with anger and rage.
Of course I'm analyzing the issue with a biased mind.
Not everyone is as racist as you are.
Hell I don't know.
It's just the way I'm analyzing the issue.
Am I supposed to lie to myself just to keep others happy ?The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT
[Government Destabilizing Branch]Hawaiian_punch posted...
1) Serena didn’t cheat
Yes she did.
Hawaiian_punch posted...
2) Naomi is half black. She is as black as tiger woods or Obama
Who cares about race?^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgManBeast462 posted...What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.
Osaka is Black as well.Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo)
http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimsonGIRLS FROM COMPTON OWN TENNIS Hurr hurr. If tennis had weight classes she would suck....dusk is the time when men whisper of matters about which they remain silent in the full light of the sun.
https://imgur.com/aCDRb27Solar_Crimson posted...ManBeast462 posted...
What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.
Osaka is Black as well.
She is mixed, not black....dusk is the time when men whisper of matters about which they remain silent in the full light of the sun.
https://imgur.com/aCDRb27YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...Serena is like THE POSTERCHILD for greatness being met with skepticism and doubt, massive criticism BECAUSE OF HER RACE
PEOPLE
MARIA SHARAPOVA HAS BEEN IRRELEVANT FOR A DECADE
YET HER NAME IS STILL BROUGHT UP STILL BROUGHT UP NEXT TO SERENA WILLIAMS'
WHY
You know why
Because of people who don't watch tennis and want to try to have a conversation anyway. Kind of like people who feel the need to give their 2 cents about tiger woods in a golf conversation when he loses so frequently that when he last won a minors it was a huge news with everyone reporting "COMEBACK!?!"It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Osaka is Black as well.
She is mixed, not black.
Everyone is mixed.
Race is a social construct with no actual meaning or definition.^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Osaka is Black as well.
She is mixed, not black.
She is Black and Japanese. She's both.Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo)
http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimsonhaloiscoolisbak posted...The funny part is that should she brought up her child as a sign she doesn't cheat. But she's okay with throwing immature tantrums?
No one is perfect.
As someone mentioned earlier I hope she'll pull a Christian Bale and apologize for her actions.
voldothegr8 posted...The real fucked up part here was the crown booing Osaka during her award presentation, fuck those people. She was beating Serena regardless.
Sheep gonna baaa^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpgUnfairRepresent posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...
The funny part is that should she brought up her child as a sign she doesn't cheat. But she's okay with throwing immature tantrums?
No one is perfect.
As someone mentioned earlier I hope she'll pull a Christian Bale and apologize for her actions.
voldothegr8 posted...The real fucked up part here was the crown booing Osaka during her award presentation, fuck those people. She was beating Serena regardless.
Sheep gonna baaa
She already had the chance in the press conference and doubled down on her sexism rant.Started from the bottom now we hereShe's so full of shit. Getting her ass beat so she resorts to acting like a child.
She got coaching. Against the rules.
She acted like a 2 year old. Against the rules.
She continued acting like a 2 year old. Against the rules.
It's funny, when you look at these Williams sisters losses, they usually involve something like this. Rules that shouldn't be rules. Bad judge. Some fake injury. It's hilarious.
Oh and who the fuck cares what goes on in men's matches. Are Nba players complaining that their 3 point line is further back than the Wnba 3 point line.UnfairRepresent posted...Dusk_ posted...
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She is mixed, not black.
Everyone is mixed.
Race is a social construct with no actual meaning or definition.
Hell if I know what I am aside from being white.
Scotch, Irish and Cherokee is all I've heard.The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT
[Government Destabilizing Branch]MacDaMurderer posted...So much misinformation in this topic.
"But I won't tell you what information that is!"^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Osaka is Black as well.
She is mixed, not black.
Weird, this Colin Kaepernick dude is as white as he is black but everyone says he's 100% black. Weird how mixed race opinions change based on who the person is.Smashingpmkns posted...She has a point. Also all of the thinly veiled racism and sexism in this topic kinda prove her point lol whatever though, shes one of the best athletes of all time. She'll bounce back.
Is it racist and sexist to call her out for her tantrum?Started from the bottom now we hereSmashingpmkns posted...She has a point. Also all of the thinly veiled racism and sexism in this topic kinda prove her point lol whatever though, shes one of the best athletes of all time. She'll bounce back.
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She is mixed, not black.
Weird, this Colin Kaepernick dude is as white as he is black but everyone says he's 100% black. Weird how mixed race opinions change based on who the person is.
mixed isn't an ethnicity or nationality. Japanese is correct and Black is correct. neither are wrong and both don't need mentioning in order to be accurate.
but you're correct. "race" opinions change depending on who that person is. it's also very telling when people aren't consistent. from how they talk about Obama to Rashida Jones.
let Rashida Jones start being vocal about police brutality, and you'll see how quick she loses her White card to certain demographics. if she started that "Blue Lives" stuff, she'd have been called other things, too.Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story!
Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!!Are people still blaming the ump?
He has a history of calling code violations on top male and female players. This lists seven of his past calls, six of which were against male players and three of the male players have been world top three at some point.
http://larrybrownsports.com/tennis/umpire-carlos-ramos-history-code-violations-serena-williams/463180
Here's a reddit post with one call on Djokovic
https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/9e81vm/tbf_carlos_ramos_has_done_this_with_men_too/
Maybe the first one was a little ticky tack(with the coach even admitting to violating the coaching rule in an interview because 'everyone does it' it's a lot harder to excuse though, fucking idiot) but 2 and 3 are the definition of fair, next.haloiscoolisbak posted...Smashingpmkns posted...
She has a point. Also all of the thinly veiled racism and sexism in this topic kinda prove her point lol whatever though, shes one of the best athletes of all time. She'll bounce back.
Is it racist and sexist to call her out for her tantrum?
Nope. But what shes saying is that men do the exact same shit and wouldn't be penalized, which is true. Women are held to a different standard in terms of etiquette in tennis. Hell, Venus and Serena are held to a different standard than anyone in tennis it seems. Not like you would know, but they've been subject to a bunch of bullshit throughout the years and this is more likely to be more bullshit than not.Clean Butt CrewSmashingpmkns posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...
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Is it racist and sexist to call her out for her tantrum?
Nope. But what shes saying is that men do the exact same shit and wouldn't be penalized, which is true. Women are held to a different standard in terms of etiquette in tennis. Hell, Venus and Serena are held to a different standard than anyone in tennis it seems. Not like you would know, but they've been subject to a bunch of bullshit throughout the years and this is more likely to be more bullshit than not.
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Plenty of men get penalties for racquet/ball abuse.
You are absolutely pathetic.You can tell a lot about a man by how he strangles you.
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